The PR War in Gaza

clyde4987 say: ' (Palestine)..they prefer to live in camps . ' I don't know this is not a racist statement. It is will be an insult if someone say Jews prefer ghetto in Warsar during WWII. I hope most Jews people will not think the way as you did. Otherwise Jewish people as a whole lost thery moral standing on world stage. And why in the world American has to be drag into middle-east to play a killer for Jewish state? A Chinese view

Palestine may have been under BRITISH CONTROL in 1947 but it was inhabited mostly the Palestinians. These native people (the Palestinians) faught the Israeli government not because they hate Jews but because the government of the new Israel denied the NATIVE Palestinian population equal rights to the incomimg IMIGRANT Jewish population. As long as the Israeli govenment continues to control (govern) the native Palestinian people with inequity there will be unrest. As an American and I would never accept any goverment that denied me my inalienable rights and why should the Palestinians. Governments earn their right to exist by consent of the governed. There is absolutely no question that ISRAEL governs GAZA. the Palestinians are not allowed to fish (a major industry historically), their farms are not allowed to export their produce without Israeli permission (which is usually denied), the government of Israel licenses all vehicles and collects all taxes. How can anyone state that Gaza is an autonomous territory? It is so surrounded by Israeli forces that it is unable to sustain itself and the people survive mainly on charitable donations from the international community. You ask "Why is Israel required to supply Gaza with food, fuel, and medical supplies?" Although no one can deny the Palestinians' horrible to criminal leaders have lead the Palestinian people into disaster, No one can deny that Israel has been the actual controlling government of the Palestinians for more than 2 generations and has therefore also played a large role in preventing them from becoming independant. The bottom line is that the Palestinian people are the native people of the Israel and they are governed (albeit unwillingly on both sides) by the government of Israel it therefore is the responsibility of the ruling government to provide for its people. To deny its people, the Palestinian people, the essentials for life is genocide.

Palestine may have been under BRITISH CONTROL in 1947 but it was inhabited mostly the Palestinians. These native people (the Palestinians) faught the Israeli government not because they hate Jews but because the government of the new Israel denied the NATIVE Palestinian population equal rights to the incomimg IMIGRANT Jewish population. As long as the Israeli govenment continues to control (govern) the native Palestinian people with inequity there will be unrest. As an American and I would never accept any goverment that denied me my inalienable rights and why should the Palestinians. Governments earn their right to exist by consent of the governed. There is absolutely no question that ISRAEL governs GAZA. the Palestinians are not allowed to fish (a major industry historically), their farms are not allowed to export their produce without Israeli permission (which is usually denied), the government of Israel licenses all vehicles and collects all taxes. How can anyone state that Gaza is an autonomous territory? It is so surrounded by Israeli forces that it is unable to sustain itself and the people survive mainly on charitable donations from the international community. You ask "Why is Israel required to supply Gaza with food, fuel, and medical supplies?" Although no one can deny the Palestinians' horrible to criminal leaders have lead the Palestinian people into disaster, No one can deny that Israel has been the actual controlling government of the Palestinians for more than 2 generations and has therefore also played a large role in preventing them from becoming independant. The bottom line is that the Palestinian people are the native people of the Israel and they are governed (albeit unwillingly on both sides) by the government of Israel it therefore is the responsibility of the ruling government to provide for its people. To deny its people, the Palestinian people, the essentials for life is genocide.

Taobsu, I think Jafra's comment pretty much seals the deal. Since both sides are so hard-headed, they should fight to the death and the rest of the world should just LET THEM DO IT. Why waste precious resources on two groups that will NEVER learn to get along? Let them duke it out while the rest of the world move on without them. It's better that way.

Palestinians are in the situation they're in because they chose that. They attacked Israel in 1967 and lost. Instead of getting back on their feet like say, Germany after WWII, they prefer to live in camps and live on the charity of Western countries. That's because they're too busy killing people to work , like everybody else. The situation won't improve until they give up Islam, which is what teaches them to do all this bad stuff.

b4004040, the reason why there's no coverage on Israeli casualties is because they are so light. Katyusha rockets are notoriously inaccurate, especially when launched in the way these militant groups use them. During the first 20 days of the 2006 fighting with Hezbollah, Israel suffered something like 1900 rocket strikes which resulted in 19 deaths, something like 55 moderate and serious injuries and 500 injuries, that was when hundreds of rockets were being launched at Israel daily, into areas that are not usually being attacked. The areas around Gaza (and the west bank, too) are much less densely populated, there is more readiness and, on a bad day, a few dozen rockets are launched into Israely-controlled territory.

Now, I'm going to say that I'm glad that since Hamas rose to power, it has been using suicide attacks less and less inside territory controlled by Israel. But I'm disappointed that the US pushed for elections in Palestine and then decided completely cut off palestine because the people voted for the "wrong" choice. I truly do believe that a gradual amount of pressure would have worked with Hamas but what we did was basically push them between a rock and a hard place and when people have nothing to lose they fight all the more desperately.

Collective punishment in that a very small minority of people are actually doing the launching of rockets into Israel but the whole "nation" gets punished for it. It's like if the US started bombing cities and blockading mexico due to the fact that drug dealers profit by destroying America's youth (and it'd probably be more acceptable for that to happen since the strong government in Mexico allows drug dealers to do whatever the hell they want).

Taobsu, Peace is great, all the Israelis want peace, but you forget Hamas three NOs.
1. They don't recognize Israel right to exist, 2. they won't give up the armed fight against Israel 3. They won't acknowledge past peace agreements signed by the Palestinian representatatives ...... How exactly do you want to have peace with them????

Taobsu, Peace is great, all the Israelis want peace, but you forget Hamas three NOs.
1. They don't recognize Israel right to exist, 2. they won't give up the armed fight against Israel 3. They won't acknowledge past peace agreements signed by the Palestinian representatatives ...... How exactly do you want to have peace with them????

Whom are U telling that Bush is Out in Middle East to help the Palestinians. It will be cruel Joke on Palestinians. Bush is in Middle East to Help himself, the Americans and Of Course the Israelies. He is testing the grounds for a strike against Iran. If ever the confilct in ME is solved, where will America test out its Weapons of Mass Destruction.

Whom are you telling that Bush is Out there in middle east to help the Palestinians? That will be a crude Joke on the Palestinians. Bush is out in Middle East to gather support for strikes on Iran or test the waters. Stop Spreading Lies about how America Wants to Solve Middle East Problem.

Peace is the only solution. With technolgy and arm development Israel will have hard time to continue supress Patestinee with brutal force. In 10 years, a home-made rocket might be able to hit Tel Av. Biological/chemical agent delivered by suicide bomber will cause unbearable suffer to Israel. More so there is no moral decency on world stage to continue systematically slaughter Patestine people. I

If the United States or any other country was being attacked DAILY by missiles wouldn't they defend themselves? I just don't get how the media only covers the side of the Palestinians? Why is not news when Israelis civilians get killed? Collective punishment by whom? I think the media is to blame for now accurately reporting in a fair and balanced way.

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What about other UN resolutions and what about the whole story?
1948 - 750,000 Palestinian Arabs evicted from from their land
1968 - UN Security Council Resolution 242 demands that Israel withdraws from occupied territories - it still hasn't

'Apartheid South Africa remains a good analogy for present day Israel, but Israel is probably worse.'

Totally agree! As a Chinese (not a muslin) What I see is the current Israel government is the most brutal apathy government in world.

I just don't get it?!
With a constant barrage of missiles and rockets, there are news organizations that really think Israel should not take decisive action? Had this been Russia, China, or even the United States, there would have been no question about a full invasion with unbelievable amount of casualties. I just don't understand how almost every news group has made the Palestinians into the victimes here.

On November 29, 1947, the global community voted to partition Palestine, which was then under BRITISH CONTROL (not Palestinian) and to create a Jewish state and a Palestinian state. Subsequently, the Arab world ganged up and declared war on Israel, to prevent the UN vote from taking effect, and the State of Israel's existence. Why? They did not want a Jewish state in their midst. Israel had not done anything, and the Arab world waged war to annihilate it. Years later, Israel is embroiled in a better campaign of self-defense, as it was in 1948. Israel could refrain from the use of any force, and there would still be violence in the region, but ultimately, there would not be an Israel. If you would like to see an improvement in the situation in Gaza, shift your focus to those who refuse to acknowledge Israel's existence. Somehow the international community has deemed calls for the destruction of Israel and actions taken to further that end acceptable, while it has deemed self-defense and genuine efforts at peace unacceptable and/or insufficient. If you too believe that there is no place for a single Jewish state in a world that contains a multitude of Christian and Muslim states, than continue on this course. If you think that there is room in the world for a Jewish state, it is time to take a stand, like Canada, against not merely Hamas, but also against "moderates" who couch terrorism-condoning language in meaningless political terms.

pablito, thanks for bringing up the point of Ariel Sharon's so called culpability in the massacre of Sabra and Shatila. It proves that you're either misinformed, or misguided about the situation. As a reminder, an internatial court exhonerated sharon of this. The massacre was committed by fellow arabs; albeit Christian.
In any case, the point still stands re: Gaza. It is an autonomous territory run by a government waging a war against Israel. Why is Israel obligrated to supply its sworn enemy with foold, fuel, electricity?
And why are you complaining about so called "targeted killings" by Israel, while the US and its coalition do the same in Afghanistan and Iraq, but nobody's complaining about that?
Would you rather Israel indiscriminantly kill people in Gaza? Don't kid yourself; this is war, and in war people die. It's absurd that Israel is being taken to task for trying to be moral, and only go after the individuals responsible for the terror acts.

On November 29, 1947, the global community voted to partition Palestine, which was then under BRITISH CONTROL (not Palestinian) and to create a Jewish state and a Palestinian state. Subsequently, the Arab world ganged up and declared war on Israel, to prevent the UN vote from taking effect, and the State of Israel's existence because they did not want a Jewish state in their midst. Israel had not done anything, and the Arab states sought to annihilate it. Years later, Israel is embroiled in a better campaign of self-defense? Why? Because years later those same states continue to not want a Jewish state in their midst. What has changed? Perhaps the vote of the global community. Fortunately, however, that initial UN vote is not retractable. If you would like to see an improvement in the situation with Gaza, shift your focus to those who refuse to acknowledge Israel's existence--Israel could refrain from the use of any force, and there would still On November 29, 1947, the global community voted to partition Palestine, which was then under BRITISH CONTROL (not Palestinian) and to create a Jewish state and a Palestinian state. Subsequently, the Arab world ganged up and declared war on Israel, to prevent the UN vote from taking effect, and the State of Israel's existence. Why? They did not want a Jewish state in their midst. Israel had not done anything, and the Arab world waged war to annihilate it. Years later, Israel is embroiled in a better campaign of self-defense, as it was in 1948. Israel could refrain from the use of any force, and there would still be violence in the region, but ultimately, there would not be an Israel. If you would like to see an improvement in the situation in Gaza, shift your focus to those who refuse to acknowledge Israel's existence. Somehow the international community has deemed calls for the destruction of Israel and actions taken to further that end acceptable, while it has deemed self-defense and genuine efforts at peace unacceptable and/or insufficient. If you too believe that there is no place for a single Jewish state in a world that contains a multitude of Christian and Muslim states, than continue on this course. If you think that there is room in the world for a Jewish state, it is time to take a stand, like Canada, against not merely Hamas, but also against "moderates" who couch terrorism-condoning language in meaningless political terms.