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He's Not as Smart as He Thinks

A British researcher reports that the male ego is often larger than his actual IQ. But you might be surprised by what women think of men's intellect.

 
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  • Posted By: nativetx @ 05/19/2008 5:01:55 PM

    Comment: this is no doubt true as is the female ego of certain country western all female bands.

  • Posted By: franceslady @ 03/29/2008 3:50:27 AM

    Comment: Everything could be possible! THis is also resulted from the cultural power. So naturally, male wins in the perceived intelligence finally in my opinion.

  • Posted By: franceslady @ 03/29/2008 3:50:21 AM

    Comment: Everything could be possible! THis is also resulted from the cultural power. So naturally, male wins in the perceived intelligence finally in my opinion.

  • Posted By: ego2913 @ 03/28/2008 12:59:48 AM

    Comment: http://blog.sina.com.cn/ego2913

  • Posted By: ego2913 @ 03/28/2008 12:57:50 AM

    Comment: ????????????

  • Posted By: syzito @ 03/26/2008 4:59:14 PM

    Comment: Crap article.

  • Posted By: Radvanszky @ 02/12/2008 6:18:26 AM

    Comment: Eucator! Big and useless EGO...very little intelligence!!!!!!!!
    Nice article by the way...Lisa

  • Posted By: Radvanszky @ 02/12/2008 6:14:22 AM

    Comment: Eucator!!!!!!!
    I suppose you mostly have a big but useless EGO...but no intelligent...no more comment!
    The article is nice! Lisa

  • Posted By: ksssargent @ 02/07/2008 9:57:55 PM

    Comment: Clearly we have differences in what men excel in and what women excel in. Men are realists about most things. You give them a topic and they look strictly at the facts. Women take the topic and ask themselves ???How does this make people feel???? or ???Will this affect me???? Women use emotion more than reason. It is something that we have been brought up with through our generations???less today???but most people look at men as being the head of the household and the decision maker. Even in history women have been looked at as the lesser sex. Men have always had things given to them because they have been thought as smarter or the more superior sex. Women have had to fight for what they have wanted, but now women have a lot more power than they have had in the past centuries. Now we can do anything we want. Yeah, men may be more realistic than women but honestly men are not smarter than women. WE ARE EQUALLY AS INTELLIGENT.

  • Posted By: ChrisDS1987 @ 02/07/2008 6:59:23 PM

    Comment: I???ll be clear right from the get go, men in woman are equal as people.
    Now as for the current state of global intelligence men are certainly smarter. Woman have this overconfidence in them now which stems from this society we have created that is too afraid to tell people their wrong. We see it in TV, movies, magazines... everywhere woman are being given confidence boosting pats on the backs for doing things that really don???t deserve any true praise.
    Men will always be the mathematical people, they always have been; with that comes an incredible ability to problem solve. They see something, develop that sensation of intrigue and then get busy creating and thinking. Woman simply take in knowledge that???s fed to them, they retain concepts but rarely develop new ideas.
    The desire to learn and the desire to be taught are two different things and that???s what separates us.

  • Posted By: Bukator @ 02/07/2008 6:26:43 PM

    Comment: Men are smarter than women. Period. They can both learn equally and memorize or know things for an IQ test, but men can apply their knowledge way better therefore making them the smarter of the two. Women can easily learn things and are able to teach the same things, but that's where the similarities end. After that men's brains go to work and begin to analyze topics they have been taught, forming new ideas that are related to the topic and expand on what they've learned. Whereas women will take that knowledge and store it for no real future use. Men are creators, builders, idea-makers while women are robots.

  • Posted By: Bukator @ 02/07/2008 6:26:05 PM

    Comment: Men are smarter than women. Period. They can both learn equally and memorize or know things for an IQ test, but men can apply their knowledge way better therefore making them the smarter of the two. Women can easily learn things and are able to teach the same things, but that's where the similarities end. After that men's brains go to work and begin to analyze topics they have been taught, forming new ideas that are related to the topic and expand on what they've learned. Whereas women will take that knowledge and store it for no real future use. Men are creators, builders, idea-makers while women are robots.

  • Posted By: Judith8 @ 02/06/2008 11:05:37 AM

    Comment: A lot of women already knew this gem of information that "He's not as smart as he thinks", and really didn't need a study to confirm this. Women still have to deal with sexism all the time. Women couldn't go to school, didn't have any rights, and were treated like property or slaves for a long time. Women rights are a fairly new thing in the scheme of mankind 's development. As far as women's contributions to civilization, men underestimate women's contributions all the time, and could learn a few things from women about being civilized. Men are very arrogrant, and egostical beings, and it's all about them, and women know this.

  • Posted By: Willis-Tampa @ 02/05/2008 11:24:34 AM

    Comment: Let???s see, men invented ??? well- everything.

    They created Democracy, Civilization, agriculture, space travel, etc.

    But, they only think they are smarter?

    I wonder how IQ measures up to actual accomplishment?

  • Posted By: Willis-Tampa @ 02/05/2008 11:21:52 AM

    Comment: Let's see - Men invented, well, everything.

    They created civilization, Democracy, etc.

    But, they only think they are smarter - how does IQ measure up to accomplishment?

  • Posted By: Marygracia @ 02/03/2008 4:55:27 AM

    Comment: ok

  • Posted By: Marygracia @ 02/02/2008 5:48:55 AM

    Comment: IRGEORGE LLANES PECORE
    International Architectural Researcher
    Sustainable ARCHITECTURAL globalization ASIA

  • Posted By: Marygracia @ 02/02/2008 5:42:59 AM

    Comment: "GOD gives us the power of thought and the magic of the mind"...use it! including your internal ego.

    IRGEORGE LLANES PECORE
    Philippines

  • Posted By: Marygracia @ 02/02/2008 5:42:39 AM

    Comment: "GOD gives us the power of thought and the magic of the mind"...use it! including internal ego.

    IRGEORGE LLANES PECORE
    Philippines

  • Posted By: angelchan786 @ 02/02/2008 2:25:23 AM

    Comment: For thousands of years, only a few women scientists got great achievements.
    I think the problem is due to the society.
    Like in the family, the parents usually would say that their sons are smarter than their daughters. So the girls believe it, as a result, they turned out to be less confident. Especially on science fields. They dare not even want to have a try. As you know, failure is the mother of success. Without being risk oneself in the technology with so many mistakes, you can't success/invent new things.

  • Posted By: angelchan786 @ 02/02/2008 2:25:11 AM

    Comment: For thousands of years, only a few women scientists got great achievements.
    I think the problem is due to the society.
    Like in the family, the parents usually would say that their sons are smarter than their daughters. So the girls believe it, as a result, they turned out to be less confident. Especially on science fields. They dare not even want to have a try. As you know, failure is the mother of success. Without being risk oneself in the technology with so many mistakes, you can't success/invent new things.

  • Posted By: angelchan786 @ 02/02/2008 2:25:01 AM

    Comment: For thousands of years, only a few women scientists got great achievements.
    I think the problem is due to the society.
    Like in the family, the parents usually would say that their sons are smarter than their daughters. So the girls believe it, as a result, they turned out to be less confident. Especially on science fields. They dare not even want to have a try. As you know, failure is the mother of success. Without being risk oneself in the technology with so many mistakes, you can't success/invent new things.

  • Posted By: angelchan786 @ 02/02/2008 2:24:49 AM

    Comment: For thousands of years, only a few women scientists got great achievements.
    I think the problem is due to the society.
    Like in the family, the parents usually would say that their sons are smarter than their daughters. So the girls believe it, as a result, they turned out to be less confident. Especially on science fields. They dare not even want to have a try. As you know, failure is the mother of success. Without being risk oneself in the technology with so many mistakes, you can't success/invent new things.

  • Posted By: angelchan786 @ 02/02/2008 2:23:20 AM

    Comment: For thousands of years, only a few women scientists got great achievements.
    I think the problem is due to the society.
    Like in the family, the parents usually would say that their sons are smarter than their daughters. So the girls believe it, as a result, they turned out to be less confident. Especially on science fields. They dare not even want to have a try. As you know, failure is the mother of success. Without being risk oneself in the technology with so many mistakes, you can't success/invent new things.

  • Posted By: angelchan786 @ 02/02/2008 2:22:05 AM

    Comment: I believe men and women are equally intelligent.
    For thousands of years, only a few women scientists got great achievements.
    I think the problem is due to the society.
    Like in the family, the parents usually would say that their sons are smarter than their daughters. So the girls believe it, as a result, they turned out to be less confident. Especially on science fields. They dare not even want to have a try. As you know, failure is the mother of success. Without being risk oneself in the technology with so many mistakes, you can't success/invent new things.

  • Posted By: angelchan786 @ 02/02/2008 2:04:42 AM

    Comment: I think men and women are equally intelligent in general.

  • Posted By: angelchan786 @ 02/02/2008 2:04:32 AM

    Comment: I think men and women are equally intelligent in general.

  • Posted By: Marygracia @ 02/01/2008 10:26:50 PM

    Comment: I'm very much agree with IRGEORGE LLANES PECORE's comment.

    Ms. Mary grace tio Kiok
    PEOPLES REPUBLIC OF CHINA

  • Posted By: Irgeorge @ 02/01/2008 12:18:02 AM

    Comment: IRGEORGE LLANES PECORE

  • Posted By: Irgeorge @ 02/01/2008 12:14:58 AM

    Comment: IRGEORGE LLANES PECORE

  • Posted By: Irgeorge @ 02/01/2008 12:09:48 AM

    Comment: SMART people always think what's possible...a SMART one knows how to think,Analyze, and evaluate and decide later in unusual way... -IRGEORGE LLANES PECORE
    Philippines

    • Posted By: Marygracia @ 02/01/2008 22:23:40

      Comment: ok

  • Posted By: av8r7604 @ 01/31/2008 2:23:54 PM

    Comment: Oops, wrong post

  • Posted By: av8r7604 @ 01/29/2008 8:50:44 PM

    Comment: Chase-Durer Men's Conquest

  • Posted By: theskeptic @ 01/29/2008 6:56:02 PM

    Comment: The problem is realy just thinking about anything. stop thinking and the problem is solved. let your mind go blank and you won't have an opinion on anything. we are all just worthless beings that probably doesn't deserve to exist but God has mercy and let's us exist. Noah found grace in God when God planned to destroy mankind forever and he granted mercy and allowed us another chance. look what we have done with it. we totaly screwed everything up, like they did before the flood. history repeating itself and our destruction will be like before but with fire instead of water.

  • Posted By: manolito @ 01/29/2008 6:55:38 PM

    Comment: Skeptic you probably have Kansas song "Dust in the Wind" on replay on your iPod lol

  • Posted By: theskeptic @ 01/29/2008 6:52:38 PM

    Comment: What is the big deal with intelligence anyway. or strength or whatever. As far as I can see it we are all a bunch of dust glued together around a skeleton of dust. dust. period. from dust to dust. dirt. does it realy matter who is smarter or who thinks they are smarter. It's like arguing that granite thinks it's smarter or prettier or whatever than marble. we are dust of the earth and nothing more. we are glued together piles of gooey slime with dried husks that will eventualy turn to piles of dry dust. big deal

  • Posted By: manolito @ 01/29/2008 2:44:26 PM

    Comment: Comment: IT SEEMS THAT MOST OF THE WOMEN IN HERE, HAVE SUCH A STRONG DESIRE (IN THEIR SUBCONSCIOUS GUTTER) TO BE A MAN, THEY KEEP TALKING ABOUT MEN INTELLIGENCE, I AM NOT AWARE SO FAR OF ANY FEMALE EINSTEIN,DAVINCI, FREUD, OR MICHELANGELO.... SO KEEP TRYING WHILE YOU SCRATCH THE FLOORS AND MY BATHROOMS.... GOD IS A MAN ......PERIOD!

  • Posted By: ombrahma @ 01/29/2008 1:32:48 PM

    Comment: Biblical Prophecy" The meek shall inherit the earth." The men who wrote Bible thought women were meek. Now, the truth emerges. All mighty men, brace thyself to be ruled by women, being cared for by women, and being humbled by women. It is written in Bible. Do not forget another error that led men to believe the earth was flat, and it was the center of universe. Then came Galilieo who removed the darkness by spending time in dark dungeons. The only difference this time is Joan Raymond will not be imprisoned for reporting the truth this time.

  • Posted By: JennO @ 01/29/2008 11:49:46 AM

    Comment: I heard that the person with the highest recorded IQ is a woman. I???m not sure if this is still true or not. I think one major problem our society has is they confuse IQ with intelligence. IQ is a measurement of how fast someone learns. However, the IQ tests only cover a limited number of subjects. So they are not really a good measurement of actually intelligence.

    • Posted By: ombrahma @ 01/29/2008 13:58:18

      Comment: IQ is how much a person has learnt, and in a given limited time, how fast can they apply their knowledge to correctly address limited issues (not necessarilty limitied to their knowledge base).

  • Posted By: jrondane @ 01/29/2008 11:36:21 AM

    Comment: Bly University did a similar study about gender and IQ. The data they are collecting is ongoing, so take the test and contribute. I will have you know that I scored higher than my husband :)

    http://www.blyuniversity.com/research/avtest.html

  • Posted By: TEWANEY @ 01/29/2008 11:23:56 AM

    Comment: GHGHUIY8I

  • Posted By: SenseCheck @ 01/29/2008 9:53:30 AM

    Comment: I???m not much of a fan of articles like this because they really have nothing of substance to offer. Instead consider the following:

    When measuring intelligence in a lab setting you might use IQ tests that measure the ability to reason, whereas in the real world intelligence is measured more by what useful information you know. Thus some people are impressed if you can pick the next pattern in a sequence, but when that undergoes the usefulness filter, it pales in comparison to whether you can replace a hot water heater, fix a leaky toilet, or get the computer to work.

    Of course women value the handy skills, and though capable of acquiring them, many seem to lack the confidence to even try. However, one good thing for females is that schools are much better suited to them. Kids are to hold still, listen, and learn from that. Males do better by moving around, touching, and playing with things. Thus, they do much more of their learning outside school, from other males who know how to do things.

    I have quite a few male friends who are quite amazing with the variety of different things they know and can do. The guys all have fathers with many skills too. I know many of the fathers and have heard from them how their fathers taught them. Since the formal education system is geared more for females, males balance it out through a generational learning system that is mostly passed on only to them.

    I, by contrast, am a father raising a daughter, passing on what I know. In addition to the how to, I give my daughter life lessons that properly shape her character and boost her self-confidence, which makes everything easier, from academics to hands on projects.

    Life lessons are rooted in faith and practical knowledge. For instance, # 10 as she calls it, How do you get the tallest building in the world? Build it or tear everyone else's down. Be a builder.

    Kids taught to believe in themselves, to be conscious of what is happening around them, and learn from mistakes, theirs and other people???s, will always do very well. My daughter is asked what she thinks might work. I teach her and I invite her to teach me things she knows.

    Intelligence is more than just an IQ test can measure.

    By the way, don't let ego bother you, sometimes it needs to be really big for people to solve problems that are much larger than themselves. You can hear a lot of ego in Thomas Edison when he talked about lighting the city with electric light, or in his comment, no I didn???t fail, I just found another way to not invent the electric light bulb.

    The fact is we learn the most by extrapolation, IE how is this problem like something I know. We then test and try hypotheses until we find what works on the problem at hand. We value this skill above many others and so we should.

    Life lesson # 7, everyone is really smart about something and everyone is really dumb about something.

  • Posted By: SenseCheck @ 01/29/2008 9:51:15 AM

    Comment: I???m not much of a fan of articles like this because they really have nothing of substance to offer. Instead consider the following:

    When measuring intelligence in a lab setting you might use IQ tests that measure the ability to reason, whereas in the real world intelligence is measured more by what useful information you know. Thus some people are impressed if you can pick the next pattern in a sequence, but when that undergoes the usefulness filter, it pales in comparison to whether you can replace a hot water heater, fix a leaky toilet, or get the computer to work.

    Of course women value the handy skills, and though capable of acquiring them, many seem to lack the confidence to even try. However, one good thing for females is that schools are much better suited to them. Kids are to hold still, listen, and learn from that. Males do better by moving around, touching, and playing with things. Thus, they do much more of their learning outside school, from other males who know how to do things.

    I have quite a few male friends who are quite amazing with the variety of different things they know and can do. The guys all have fathers with many skills too. I know many of the fathers and have heard from them how their fathers taught them. Since the formal education system is geared more for females, males balance it out through a generational learning system that is mostly passed on only to them.

    I, by contrast, am a father raising a daughter, passing on what I know. In addition to the how to, I give my daughter life lessons that properly shape her character and boost her self-confidence, which makes everything easier, from academics to hands on projects.

    Life lessons are rooted in faith and practical knowledge. For instance, # 10 as she calls it, How do you get the tallest building in the world? Build it or tear everyone else's down. Be a builder.

    Kids taught to believe in themselves, to be conscious of what is happening around them, and learn from mistakes, theirs and other people???s, will always do very well. My daughter is asked what she thinks might work. I teach her and I invite her to teach me things she knows.

    Intelligence is more than just an IQ test can measure.

    By the way, don't let ego bother you, sometimes it needs to be really big for people to solve problems that are much larger than themselves. You can hear a lot of ego in Thomas Edison when he talked about lighting the city with electric light, or in his comment, no I didn???t fail, I just found another way to not invent the electric light bulb.

    The fact is we learn the most by extrapolation, IE how is this problem like something I know. We then test and try hypotheses until we find what works on the problem at hand. We value this skill above many others and so we should.

    Life lesson # 7, everyone is really smart about something and everyone is really dumb about something.

  • Posted By: klaatu62 @ 01/29/2008 8:43:32 AM

    Comment: This is silly! A whole bunch of grown people arguing about research that translates to NOTHING when it comes to individual people. First of all, everyone who is entering comments here is by definition of circumstance (you are actually reading an article in Newsweek!) a little ahead of the curve.

    When we look at the results of research, we have to take the time to READ THE RESULTS. It does not say ALL WOMEN think they are less intelligent than men, it says that ON AVERAGE women don't give themselves enough credit for their own intelligence. On average, men give themselves more credit than they deserve. Sadly, on average women give men more credit than they deserve also.

    But lets look at the situation. Much of the effect comes from couples, and that means that womens views of men are limited in scope to their impressions of their mate. This can seriously skew things since women traditionally will look to find their equal or better in a mate. Men traditionally look to find someone they can shine for. Therefore the skewed effect starts here.

    Now this is not true of all couples. I personally want an equal partner, and my mate wants the same. We regard each other as equally intelligent overall, however we each have our areas of expertise.

    I'm not certain why every time a study comes out that seeks to highlight differences between sexes, races, or cultures, people see this as bad! If it was not for studies in the 70's that showed how men and women learned things differently, the way things are taught in school would still heavily favor men. However, according to a Newsweek article about 2 years ago, because of these studies, women now have an upper hand in schools, and the drop out rate for boys is several times that of women. This is now showing itself in the rates of application to institutions of higher learning.

    Maybe we need to extract something from this research and use it in a way that advances BOTH sexes.

    By the way, note that the averages are interesting in that while on average both sexes score the same, men are generally either at the top OR the BOTTOM of the class.

  • Posted By: Punk_felsen @ 01/29/2008 7:56:09 AM

    Comment: maniacinc....no need to get offended...i wasn't attacking you. my emotional energy, (and poetic wit if i do say so) was aimed at the individuals who's brains got left in the dark ages where women were nothing more then cleaning supplies.

  • Posted By: ManiacInc @ 01/29/2008 7:43:42 AM

    Comment: Freudian Projection much? Punk_Felsen, save your animosity. Nobody is worth your emotional energy. Some people don't need to be dignified with a response. This is the equation as I see it: I work very hard. I have worked my hands to the bone for as long as I can remember, please don't mock me for that. I have been successful and I can support people that I care about. BimboBrain, I hope you achieve something really spectacular; or maybe somebody intelligent cares about you. Whichever it is, don't show your hand-- you'll mess up the problem.

  • Posted By: rasmit @ 01/29/2008 7:43:08 AM

    Comment: I enjoyed reading the article but no where found a base of showing smartness or pretending to be clever and having male ego could really affect evaluating IQ. Intelligence is soley inherent which can be polished to ascend a certain level rather can be brought in by any conscious effort.Many consider intelligence as intangible possession of any human being. Taking this tangibility facet into account, I do not think, a person can get something right even if he is not aware of. If he is getting it right then it is that person intutive ability which counts. And somehow being intutive adds value of being intelligent. This concludes if a man scoring more in IQ on the basis of intution then you have to agree that he is more intelligent.
    Second point is about clubbing confidence with Intelligence. I hope this comes in package. Confidence is an integral part of intelligent. On the contrary, an intelligent person is always confident because it is not abysmal. Knowing things not necessarily makes a person intelligent. Its a person`s intellctual essence along with intution,confidence level, being analytical, way of approaching things make a person intelligent.
    Man might behave as if they are more smarter but then by doing this he is not showing off rather adding values os being intelligent.

  • Posted By: ombrahma @ 01/29/2008 7:38:58 AM

    Comment: Also, woman's physiological IQ is far superior to man's. The toxicity in their reproductive system eliminates all the sperm deemed week. Physiological superiority is evident from the fact that men, who are toxic to women by nature for all their life, are protected and nourished while in womb. Woman's instinct never fails (except when they override it by trying to follow make-beleive on TV). How great must be their level of inner beauty that they are capable of thinking men are handsome (sorry, a naked man is the ugliest sight in nature in my humble opinion). Women are just amazing. They can make man feel like they are the greatest, or they are worthless, all due to higher intelligence that comes close to creation.

    • Posted By: 229911 @ 01/29/2008 07:54:58

      Comment: Is that you Rosie O'Donnell?

  • Posted By: ombrahma @ 01/29/2008 7:30:59 AM

    Comment: Comment: Comment: The Hindu Pundits of subcontinent of India had known thousands of years ago the current research that you have reported. The intellectual and emontional superiority of women was indisputable. Therefore, every form of women is worshipped as a diety in Hinduism. A woman can use her superior emotional strength (and emotional IQ) combined with superior intellectual IQ to punch a devastating hole in men's peace of mind, mostly by the dreaded silent treatment. It stirs up all the male insecurities. During that period, a man feels women are invincible, mighty and powerful. The men feel helpless, which inspired men to depict a woman as Kali (please view it by googling it), a diety they worship. Women in India behave like Goddesses. They enjoy the labor of their men while staying behind at home, and controlling every aspect of the family and social life. Those who did not grow up in India think that women in India are helpless. What do they know?

  • Posted By: BimboBrain @ 01/29/2008 6:55:46 AM

    Comment: Well, guess you guys have yet figure out the equation? The reason why women underplay their intelligence, is so that men get to do more work. I see smart women working a lot harder in their life than the bimbo. Let men do all the work if they think that they are so smart. Let them stress, let them sweat, let them work. Knowledge is a dangerous thing. Ignorance is bliss.

  • Posted By: Punk_felsen @ 01/29/2008 6:45:36 AM

    Comment: Men like you think you???re above us and superior
    But its attitudes like this that prove you???re just inferior
    It???s the ego and the pride that caused the wars and pain
    I???ve got a song for you and it???s called??????you are so vain???!!
    You say you???re intellectual, you discuss and love politics
    When the mainstream of your conversation is the size of your dicks
    You sneer at the women and you shout their imperfections
    But you seem to not have time to ask them for directions
    Now you???re horny and you???re lonely so try to find bonny lass
    But you can???t see where you???re going because your head is up your ass!

  • Posted By: Punk_felsen @ 01/29/2008 6:45:16 AM

    Comment: Men like you think you???re above us and superior
    But its attitudes like this that prove you???re just inferior
    It???s the ego and the pride that caused the wars and pain
    I???ve got a song for you and it???s called??????you are so vain???!!
    You say you???re intellectual, you discuss and love politics
    When the mainstream of your conversation is the size of your dicks
    You sneer at the women and you shout their imperfections
    But you seem to not have time to ask them for directions
    Now you???re horny and you???re lonely so try to find bonny lass
    But you can???t see where you???re going because your head is up your ass!

  • Posted By: ManiacInc @ 01/29/2008 5:14:47 AM

    Comment: I love reading these loaded topics. I found it interesting that "people at the very top and the very bottom of the IQ bell curve are more likely to be men."

    Myself, being a 21 year-old male, would like to take this moment to stroke my considerable ego. I am double majoring in mechanical engineering and international business with a minor in chinese. However, the only way I have been able to make progress in my education while running a successful manufacturing firm is through the unbelievably patient support and understanding of a wonderful woman (that I go to for all varieties of advice). People can be so petty; I have no intention to pontificate to an entire gender. What purpose does it serve?

    "Men with average to below-average intelligence think that they are quite clever. And very smart women think their intelligence is low." I thought this was funny. It reminds me of a roommate that I once had. His story can be told briefly; lots and lots of drugs for many, many years. He had been clean (excluding alcohol and marijuana) for two years when I roomed with him. The drugs had effected him. He spoke at one volume-- Loud, very loud. He really enjoyed bragging about his cleverness, but unfortunately, we see in a mirror dimly (1 Corinthians 13:12). Another roommate of mine (a double engineering major from Colombia) is an avid Cosmo reader. He said that the things women read about speaks volumes about social affluence.

    Anyway, to address two issues: I would like to know how genetic disposition relates to intelligence. I sense a correlation to hunter gatherer roles. I think this correlation has more to do with sociocentric ideology and less to do with intelligence. However, I think social conditions have a lot to do with the development of the mind. I have heard birds of a feather flock together; does this mean anything in context of the first quote cited? Very thought provoking, maybe someone has some female perspective to share?

    Enjoy your qualia and God bless.

  • Posted By: ManiacInc @ 01/29/2008 5:11:19 AM

    Comment: I love reading these loaded topics. I found it interesting that "people at the very top and the very bottom of the IQ bell curve are more likely to be men."

    Myself, being a 21 year-old male, would like to take this moment to stroke my considerable ego. I am double majoring in mechanical engineering and international business with a minor in chinese. However, the only way I have been able to make progress in my education while running a successful manufacturing firm is through the unbelievably patient support and understanding of a wonderful woman (that I go to for all varieties of advice). People can be so petty; I have no intention to pontificate to an entire gender. What purpose does it serve?

    "Men with average to below-average intelligence think that they are quite clever. And very smart women think their intelligence is low." I thought this was funny. It reminds me of a roommate that I once had. His story can be told briefly; lots and lots of drugs for many, many years. He had been clean (excluding alcohol and marijuana) for two years when I roomed with him. The drugs had effected him. He spoke at one volume-- Loud, very loud. He really enjoyed bragging about his cleverness, but unfortunately, we see in a mirror dimly (1 Corinthians 13:12). Another roommate of mine (a double engineering major from Colombia) is an avid Cosmo reader. He said that the things women read about speaks volumes about social affluence.

    Anyway, to address two issues: I would like to know how genetic disposition relates to intelligence. I sense a correlation to hunter gatherer roles. I think this correlation has more to do with sociocentric ideology and less to do with intelligence. However, I think social conditions have a lot to do with the development of the mind. I have heard birds of a feather flock together; does this mean anything in context of the first quote cited? Very thought provoking, maybe someone has some female perspective to share?

    Enjoy your qualia and God bless.

  • Posted By: olawale @ 01/29/2008 4:25:28 AM

    Comment: all men are liars! what women can do, no man born of a woman can do it...one of such is carrying pregnancy. mrs jochebed preserved great moses in the most intelligent way, where was mr amram moses' father? mrs zipporah skilfully delivered great moses from being killed by God at the inn. mrs abigail delivered nabal from execution by david when the man was in stupor. women preserve the delicate foetus and labour to birth when most ment run away at the sight of labour ward. women are highly unintelligent, i agree. but men are "intelligentless" to do what a woman will do freely. olawale, nigeria

  • Posted By: narerane @ 01/29/2008 4:04:22 AM

    Comment: Hi I read the british researchers conclusion of the survey they made, my question is , can they please actually put all the anonymous data they collected and then how they came across the conclusion ( i mean what algoritm or the logic they applied) to arrive at the conclusion. Finally "mind sees what it wants to see" and hence different people can interpret the data differently correct interpretation should be proved not just accepted.

  • Posted By: manolito @ 01/29/2008 3:50:24 AM

    Comment: IT SEEMS THAT MOST OF THE WOMEN IN HERE, HAVE SUCH A STRONG DESIRE (IN THEIR SUBCONSCIOUS GUTTER) TO BE A MAN, THEY KEEP TALKING ABOUT MEN INTELLIGENCE, I AM NOT AWARE SO FAR OF ANY FEMALE EINSTEIN,DAVINCI, FREUD, OR MICHELANGELO.... SO KEEP TRYING WHILE YOU SCRATCH THE FLOORS AND MY BATHROOMS.... GOD IS A MAN ......PERIOD!

    • Posted By: jlofayetteville @ 01/29/2008 04:10:44

      Comment: your right god is a man and I believe that... please dont mistake because I think men and woman are equally smart that I would want to be a man..... I love being a woman and appreciate men in a lot of ways and your right there have been quite a number of men who have become a great part of history including others you falied to mention that doesnt men woman arent cabable of creating history there have been a number of woman as well of been a part of history I dont need to be in a pissing contest wth you im sure you would win of course you do have the tool to use.... so sorry but you are a close minded individual to think your so smart..... just remember there might not have been as woman in history im sire you could recall but things were alot different back them then things are now more and more there will be woman making history as we have strived over time its not about trying to be a man its about fixing what you all have messed up try that one on woman have been known for their strength I never said we were better then men what so ever but since you are one of those men that need to be put in their place.... heres the old saying behind every great man there is an even stronger woman.....

  • Posted By: jlofayetteville @ 01/29/2008 3:30:55 AM

    Comment: I think everyone..... men and woman equally are very smart..... in their own ways. I think we balance each other out and one could not survive without the other.... I think a lot of woman are more in touch with their emotions and are better able to freely express those and help men to be able to do the same and I think men have a lot of qualities to help us woman better ourselves. I really dont think there is a smarter sex.... I have met some men and woman who have equally in my opinion been a waste of life and breathe for their stupidity their ambtion their motivation their drive to suceed and better themselves and its sad..... I think everyone should want life period to be as full and MAKE it exactly how they want it to be instead of making excuses for the why they cant do something..... I came from the gutter and personally I have strived everyday to become a better woman reguardless of anything.... I have made stupid decisons and have learned from them and have met people who I cant understand the way they choose to live their life in stupidity...... wow this became quite long huh?? lol.... Sorry but my opinion is that life is what you make it everyone has a choice of what they want to become whether black white man or woman I mean everyone has a choice of what they want to become and what they plan to do to choose their life I dont think inteligence when it comes to men or woman is so much as whos smarter rather than who has chosen to be educated who has chosen whether to study in college or read any book and educate themselves. Life, love, education, fullfillment EVERYTHING is our own individual choice and what we choose to do with that isnt anything that can be measured in any IQ test maybe we should start measuring ambition or dedication or how hard working someone is instead.....

  • Posted By: letso @ 01/29/2008 3:28:20 AM

    Comment: In my opinion, I think suggest that women are smarter than men. but for the intelligence, we are both equal and women can do wonders as men can do.

  • Posted By: narerane @ 01/29/2008 3:27:58 AM

    Comment: Hi I read the british researchers conclusion of the survey they made, my question is , can they please actually put all the anonymous data they collected and then how they came across the conclusion ( i mean what algoritm or the logic they applied) to arrive at the conclusion. Finally "mind sees what it wants to see" and hence different people can interpret the data differently correct interpretation should be proved not just accepted.

    • Posted By: love.angel.music.baby @ 01/29/2008 03:41:37

      Comment: are you on crack?
      do you really think researchers just put up random information?
      did you know the education tracking system works worldwide, which includes all information, including gender, including Africa and countries you've probably never even heard of?
      it doesn't take a scientist to figure That out.

  • Posted By: tikistudman @ 01/29/2008 3:23:51 AM

    Comment: i just saw the video of holly baily, white house correspondent, and um uh uh uh i dunno uh i just uh uh i think she uh migh tuh of been employeed by uh bush uh uh i uh think i might be holly . what a joke of a corresponedent,

    • Posted By: love.angel.music.baby @ 01/29/2008 03:38:51

      Comment: oh wait muhbad. of course she and everyone else in the white house was hired by bush. what are you uh uh stupid?
      that's just how presidancy works. you get ellected, you have to have your own campaign.

    • Posted By: love.angel.music.baby @ 01/29/2008 03:31:08

      Comment: uh uh uh after the president retires uh uh uh all of the uh uh uh everyone who uh uh served under bush uh uh uh automatically gets fired.
      dumb ass
      uh uh uh sounds like you're uh uh uh tryna hump your computer moniter

  • Posted By: tikistudman @ 01/29/2008 3:15:06 AM

    Comment: Cancer, dieing people, economy, everything the futrue president is trying to accomplish in their election can be solved by the people for the people. Its so ironic.

  • Posted By: 1nightstand @ 01/29/2008 3:14:06 AM

    Comment: hehehe, I'd say that someone is a little miffed here. ;)

  • Posted By: tikistudman @ 01/29/2008 3:12:20 AM

    Comment: everyone is basing their comments off of past experiences instead of real facts. we hold the front office, and you stuggle to get into it, yet we let you.Serioudly its a brother sister war and everyone fights to think they are right. Its a big I am right you are wrong situation. the american econmy is in struggle, people can save it but they think ego is a bigger issue

  • Posted By: tikistudman @ 01/29/2008 3:08:47 AM

    Comment: Honestly the reason for men and women having the difference between each other is sex.
    I don't mean the physical reason, I mean adam and eve, man and woman.
    The reason there is such a problem about people comparing one another to another is how the woman
    sex drives itself into the ground. Compare how many strippers and prosttuites in the US as far as
    men versus women. But then think of the classic hobo "bum" its always a male. I believe that neither has the capibilties \
    of being better then the other, I believe that it is a point of who wants it more.

  • Posted By: tikistudman @ 01/29/2008 3:08:11 AM

    Comment: Honestly the reason for men and women having the difference between each other is sex.
    I don't mean the physical reason, I mean adam and eve, man and woman.
    The reason there is such a problem about people comparing one another to another is how the woman
    sex drives itself into the ground. Compare how many strippers and prosttuites in the US as far as
    men versus women. But then think of the classic hobo "bum" its always a male. I believe that neither has the capibilties \
    of being better then the other, I believe that it is a point of who wants it more.

  • Posted By: love.angel.music.baby @ 01/29/2008 3:07:54 AM

    Comment: Honestly, your dick doesn't give you any extra brain cells. And to the little knob who wrote about how women were so unsuccesful throughout the years 'even though they were given the chance' to be a part of politics in Egypt and rule England etc. Give me a break. Might I remind you that women had been taught far less than men. And I mean that as in how girls were never sent to school for the same subjects as boys. Am I not right? And should I also point out that girls were only taught to sew, cook and clean?
    And yes, Queen Elizabeth may have had the power to change this, but then again she didn't. Do you know why? Because men in England also had the power to revolt, and Kings and Queens are not always able to make decisions so simply. They had a whole court of people to accept their decisions, which isn't always as succesful as you may think.
    Oh, and guess what? I'm 12 years old.
    I'm laughing as I'm typing this
    So anyway. To the joke who said, "and all girls talk about guys? Yeah, that's right, I listen to your conversations. If guys actually did talk about politics as often as you claim are celebrities blah blah", you have got to be kidding? You know the people who talk about celebrities are this world must be coming to a revolution. Girls are human. Just because some girls have the same intelect as the boys (the below average ones, of course), doesn't mean all girls have the same conversations. Girls generally talk about life, and what's going on around them. If you actually think about it, we are expressing our opinions on world issues on what the world is generally coming to. Boys, on the other hand, talk about how great their new lawn mower it. Don't try to deny it because you all know this is true. But seriously, the most men achieved is world conflict. Look at President Bush. Look at Osama Bin Laden. Men are just trouble, and the ignorant ones are just a waste of expired blood and flesh.
    And to all you thick skulls out there who think men are generally better than women, you're just mad cuz you're a little short on sumthin. (Yeah, I'm aware of my spelling errors. Wouldn't you think I'd notice?) Not to mention the fact that some of these 'hot shots' (ROFL) on here (once again thinking you are smarter, not realizing that you obviously have the same intelect of a banana peel), you are definately single. Try thinking outside the bun. Women don't want you. You might as well go kill yourselves because you have no point in life, hahaha.
    And another thing before you try and think you're rubbing something in my face, yes, I have a boyfriend. And if I mispelled any words I am soo sorry, as I am trilinguel, So ey, cut me some slack. ?????? ?????????. :)

  • Posted By: love.angel.music.baby @ 01/29/2008 3:07:24 AM

    Comment: Honestly, your dick doesn't give you any extra brain cells. And to the little knob who wrote about how women were so unsuccesful throughout the years 'even though they were given the chance' to be a part of politics in Egypt and rule England etc. Give me a break. Might I remind you that women had been taught far less than men. And I mean that as in how girls were never sent to school for the same subjects as boys. Am I not right? And should I also point out that girls were only taught to sew, cook and clean?
    And yes, Queen Elizabeth may have had the power to change this, but then again she didn't. Do you know why? Because men in England also had the power to revolt, and Kings and Queens are not always able to make decisions so simply. They had a whole court of people to accept their decisions, which isn't always as succesful as you may think.
    Oh, and guess what? I'm 12 years old.
    I'm laughing as I'm typing this
    So anyway. To the joke who said, "and all girls talk about guys? Yeah, that's right, I listen to your conversations. If guys actually did talk about politics as often as you claim are celebrities blah blah", you have got to be kidding? You know the people who talk about celebrities are this world must be coming to a revolution. Girls are human. Just because some girls have the same intelect as the boys (the below average ones, of course), doesn't mean all girls have the same conversations. Girls generally talk about life, and what's going on around them. If you actually think about it, we are expressing our opinions on world issues on what the world is generally coming to. Boys, on the other hand, talk about how great their new lawn mower it. Don't try to deny it because you all know this is true. But seriously, the most men achieved is world conflict. Look at President Bush. Look at Osama Bin Laden. Men are just trouble, and the ignorant ones are just a waste of expired blood and flesh.
    And to all you thick skulls out there who think men are generally better than women, you're just mad cuz you're a little short on sumthin. (Yeah, I'm aware of my spelling errors. Wouldn't you think I'd notice?) Not to mention the fact that some of these 'hot shots' (ROFL) on here (once again thinking you are smarter, not realizing that you obviously have the same intelect of a banana peel), you are definately single. Try thinking outside the bun. Women don't want you. You might as well go kill yourselves because you have no point in life, hahaha.
    And another thing before you try and think you're rubbing something in my face, yes, I have a boyfriend. And if I mispelled any words I am soo sorry, as I am trilinguel, So ey, cut me some slack. ?????? ?????????. :)

  • Posted By: Josman75 @ 01/29/2008 3:05:53 AM

    Comment: Hey 12 year old know what you are talking about. Go back to the tv set and watch spongebop. why are you 12 and you have a boyfriend? Learn how to spell little girl.

    • Posted By: love.angel.music.baby @ 01/29/2008 03:15:55

      Comment: Hey Josman75, go back to your special education class and stop masturbating on your beer can

  • Posted By: tikistudman @ 01/29/2008 3:04:17 AM

    Comment: Honestly the reason for men and women having the difference between each other is sex.
    I don't mean the physical reason, I mean adam and eve, man and woman.
    The reason there is such a problem about people comparing one another to another is how the woman
    sex drives itself into the ground. Compare how many strippers and prosttuites in the US as far as
    men versus women. But then think of the classic hobo "bum" its always a male. I believe that neither has the capibilties \
    of being better then the other, I believe that it is a point of who wants it more.

  • Posted By: Josman75 @ 01/29/2008 3:04:04 AM

    Comment: So frogster you think having conversations about tmz or extra or one of those silly shows makes you intelligent? Please, I don't care if you went to the mall, or you bought a cute outfit, that's nonsense to me.

    • Posted By: Terrils @ 01/29/2008 16:53:37

      Comment: Frogster almost makes a salient point - one can talk about current events, or politics, and still say absolutely nothing of value or insight. Important topics can be discussed by stupid people - they're just discussed stupidly. Additionally (though it's less likely) one can discuss celebrities and make intelligent observations about human nature, the chimerical value of fame, and what it is in people that makes so many of them fascinated by the minutia of the lives of people whose worth in the larger human scheme is all but nil.

  • Posted By: tikistudman @ 01/29/2008 3:04:02 AM

    Comment: Honestly the reason for men and women having the difference between each other is sex.
    I don't mean the physical reason, I mean adam and eve, man and woman.
    The reason there is such a problem about people comparing one another to another is how the woman
    sex drives itself into the ground. Compare how many strippers and prosttuites in the US as far as
    men versus women. But then think of the classic hobo "bum" its always a male. I believe that neither has the capibilties \
    of being better then the other, I believe that it is a point of who wants it more.

  • Posted By: HeidiSheister @ 01/29/2008 3:00:31 AM

    Comment: LOL, I love Leykis, between that and wifebusters.com

    i'm a happy girl!

  • Posted By: love.angel.music.baby @ 01/29/2008 2:58:25 AM

    Comment: Honestly, your dick doesn't give you any extra brain cells. And to the little knob who wrote about how women were so unsuccesful throughout the years 'even though they were given the chance' to be a part of politics in Egypt and rule England etc. Give me a break. Might I remind you that women had been taught far less than men. And I mean that as in how girls were never sent to school for the same subjects as boys. Am I not right? And should I also point out that girls were only taught to sew, cook and clean?
    And yes, Queen Elizabeth may have had the power to change this, but then again she didn't. Do you know why? Because men in England also had the power to revolt, and Kings and Queens are not always able to make decisions so simply. They had a whole court of people to accept their decisions, which isn't always as succesful as you may think.
    Oh, and guess what? I'm 12 years old.
    And to all you thick skulls out there who think men are generally better than women, you're just mad cuz you're a little short on sumthin. (Yeah, I'm aware of my spelling errors. Wouldn't you think I'd notice?) Not to mention the fact that some of these 'hot shots' (ROFL) on here (once again thinking you are smarter, not realizing that you obviously have the same intelect of a banana peel), you are definately single. Try thinking outside the bun. Women don't want you. You might as well go kill yourselves because you have no point in life, hahaha.
    And another thing before you try and think you're rubbing something in my face, yes, I have a boyfriend. And if I mispelled any words I am soo sorry, as I am trilinguel, So ey, cut me some slack. ?????? ?????????. :)

    • Posted By: frogster9009 @ 01/29/2008 03:07:24

      Comment: You sound like a fourteen instead of a 12.
      I guess what your saying in true. (trilingual isn't a good excuse to have spelling errors.)

  • Posted By: Josman75 @ 01/29/2008 2:57:34 AM

    Comment: Leykis 101

  • Posted By: sbyrne @ 01/29/2008 2:56:45 AM

    Comment: There's plenty, and I mean PLENTY of stupidity to go around, so I don't think you should sweat the small stuff. Good night.

  • Posted By: Josman75 @ 01/29/2008 2:55:49 AM

    Comment: I work in an office where it's 90% percent women, and they talk about very unintelligent topics. I'm not berating anyone, maybe you're insulted because you have those types of conversations with your co-workers.

  • Posted By: CHINUAACHEBE @ 01/29/2008 2:55:47 AM

    Comment: The only other previous response that makes sense is china panda's.

  • Posted By: frogster9009 @ 01/29/2008 2:51:24 AM

    Comment: To picklestx,Where does the smarter men live ?
    I too, never considered man being smarter than woman before reading this article. Topics like such have been going on for ages, and there doesn't seem to be a valid conclusion. The reason (intelligent) females underestimate their intelligence would most probably be caused by their humbility and modesty. Although a majority of males might overestimate their IQ level, but i'm sure there are males which underestimate their IQ level too. They say that smart people tend to be more humble. (regardless of sex). So maybe some man should learn to be more humble and boast less. :looks at monalito:

  • Posted By: 1nightstand @ 01/29/2008 2:51:04 AM

    Comment: Josman75, you are so right. The women that gather in school or in my office usually talk about shopping, fashion and or some celebrity who shaved her head. While men, on the other hand, usually talk about serious stuff like work, politics, and technical stuff on their break time.

  • Posted By: Josman75 @ 01/29/2008 2:48:19 AM

    Comment: Listen to the conversations that women have at work, they generally have conversations about britney spears, or shopping or some kind of nonsense. Men generally have conversations about politics or current events.

  • Posted By: HeidiSheister @ 01/29/2008 2:45:14 AM

    Comment: I think it takes two to tango.. eve did take the forbidden fruit.. i think.. i read that at wifebusters.com

    • Posted By: frogster9009 @ 01/29/2008 02:59:21

      Comment: Oh yay ! Finally someone's making sense. It needs both male and female to function in the society and the world. Josman, 1nightstand, what makes you think that man are smarter just because they talk 'bout politics ? It's not like the ones that talk 'bout politics are in politics !! Giving personal remarks on XXX president and XXX country and their decision. I'd be intelligent if these people talking 'bout politics are IN politics, but they're just discussing, i don't see anything smart in it. Of course, i don't see anything smart in talking 'bout shopping too. Just to tell you that we're equal in a different way on that. Not smarter or dumber !

  • Posted By: Josman75 @ 01/29/2008 2:44:27 AM

    Comment: Of course men are smarter that women, it is common that men talk about politics or current events, while women talk about shopping or britney spears. Just listen to the conversations in your office where the majority of the employees are women.

  • Posted By: letso @ 01/29/2008 2:42:35 AM

    Comment: I think women are smarter than men. when it comes to intelligence, we are both equal.

  • Posted By: 1nightstand @ 01/29/2008 2:40:09 AM

    Comment: In other words, men are generally smarter than women because we have to be. It is evolution!

  • Posted By: 229911 @ 01/29/2008 2:38:50 AM

    Comment: Good night everyone and please get over yourselves.

  • Posted By: 1nightstand @ 01/29/2008 2:34:28 AM

    Comment: This subject makes a lot of sense because boys and men are pressured by society to perform and be a man, if you will. If we are not confident and self assured, then most men and women won't respect us. Women want men to be more of a man and take charge so we have to be smarter or at least make her believe that us guys are smarter. Women don't respect a man if he is not confident and clever.

  • Posted By: 1nightstand @ 01/29/2008 2:33:47 AM

    Comment: This subject makes a lot of sense because boys and men are pressured by society to perform and be a man, if you will. If we are not confident and self assured, then most men and women won't respect us. Women want men to be more of a man and take charge so we have to be smarter or at least make her believe that us guys are smarter. Women don't respect a man if he is not confident and clever.

  • Posted By: mcdanger @ 01/29/2008 2:33:47 AM

    Comment: why is alright for women to post this type of article or research, but could you imagine if a man had written a study about another man doing research proven that men are better at everything? this article does nothing to prove that women are smarter, but only to prove that men are less average. i think this is bullshit. women are sexist.

    • Posted By: Terrils @ 01/29/2008 16:45:25

      Comment: I feel fairly sure that you're not commenting on the same article the rest of us are.

  • Posted By: 229911 @ 01/29/2008 2:33:35 AM

    Comment: When is someone intelligent of either gender going to comment on this article?

    • Posted By: crazymamma @ 01/29/2008 02:55:33

      Comment: What?!?! Are YOU not intelligent? Why don't you make an intelligent comment on this subject instead of berating others?

    • Posted By: crazymamma @ 01/29/2008 02:50:47

      Comment: What? Are you not of "either gender" are you not "intelligent"? Why don't YOU comment intelligently instead of berating others?

  • Posted By: 229911 @ 01/29/2008 2:31:47 AM

    Comment: When is someone intelligent of either gender going to comment on this artical?

  • Posted By: Caveman427 @ 01/29/2008 2:31:20 AM

    Comment: Women are equal, there's a distinct difference between us, but equal none the less, besides i would bet serious money that a women with an IQ of 80, who is physically superior, ( BOMBSHELL,HOTTIE) will go much further in the world, than your "Joe bookworm" with an IQ of 140-150!

    • Posted By: Terrils @ 01/29/2008 16:43:52

      Comment: Go much further toward what?

  • Posted By: walkermc @ 01/29/2008 2:30:44 AM

    Comment: Overall I think this is a very well written article. However, what is confusing to me is why women are credited with having more emotional intelligence than men. Generally it seems to me that women over analyze how they feel, which doesn't constitute more intelligence, it just means they worry more.

    • Posted By: Terrils @ 01/29/2008 16:38:50

      Comment: It sounds as if you assume the way you're doing it is the correct way. Is it at all possible that you (and even men in general) underanalyze? Something to consider.

  • Posted By: HeidiSheister @ 01/29/2008 2:29:14 AM

    Comment: Man invented pheromone spray to attract ladies.. i think thats smart.. read it on xfragrances.com

  • Posted By: anonymous2008 @ 01/29/2008 2:28:31 AM

    Comment: manolito....... if you think that women are only for home, even taking care of home and children you men are not capable of doing it, and you seem suferring from grandeur disease, because you dont respect other gender, i suggest you go for self_help specialist to clear your fault thoughts.

  • Posted By: picklestx @ 01/29/2008 2:22:17 AM

    Comment: Actually until I read this article I never even considered men were smarter. The smarter men must live somewhere else.

  • Posted By: hk80526 @ 01/29/2008 2:22:15 AM

    Comment: Baloney. Please stop eroding our girls' confidence in school. I am a former science teacher with an honors science degree, and there is a definite confidence gap in boys and girls in schools. I wou