He's Not as Smart as He Thinks

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  • Posted By: afather @ 01/29/2008 12:18:32 AM

    Does it really matter? Regardless of IQ, the male is far more likely to commit suicide before finishing junior or high school, and in the last ten years, the suicide rates for males in elementary school has jumped way up. They are expected to do better than the girls, but told that if they do, it's because they have an unfair advantage. They are far more likely to drop out of high school, and if they graduate, not likely to get into college. He will take a job that is 700 times more likely to get him killed, than the jobs women take, but get told he cannot earn any more money than what the women make for doing those jobs.

    So, knowing ones IQ is rather useless is you are male as you have little to gain from it, and will likely be punished for it the rest of their lives.

  • Posted By: easyflyer 7108 @ 01/29/2008 12:18:32 AM

    What Did She Do With All That Intelligence?? Washn Dishes??

  • Posted By: emma_mahat@yahoo.com @ 01/29/2008 12:18:14 AM

    I do agree with the reachers's report.

  • Posted By: TalontedTSi @ 01/28/2008 11:32:51 PM

    To all you little girls, STOP HATING! I am not saying men are smarter than the ladies, but Einstein, Socrates, Plato, Gandhi, Nastradamus, Mohammad etc.. What do they all have in common?? THEY ARE ALL GUYS!! I haven't seen one well known chick to be on the list.. So until then, shut up!

    • Posted By: cariosus @ 01/29/2008 12:16:43 AM

      I am not saying that men are smarter than WOMEN* (not ???the ladies,??? otherwise use ???gentlemen???)

      You haven???t seen ???a well known chick??? on the list because there has always been a very strong sense of sexism against women with new ideas, especially in the areas of science and math. Many scientists (women AND men) have been discredited for one reason or another. Nikolai Tesla is an example of a brilliant male scientist discredited because of his eccentricity.

      Most of what you said can be blamed on your own ignorance. Women have made great contributions to the world, especially science.

      Marie Curie (Nobel Prizes in Chemistry and Physics) "discovered" radioactivity and made huge advances in the way we study Chemistry.

      Gabrielle ??milie du Ch??telet was a Mathematician and Physicist who proposed Einstein's equation e=mc?? more than 150 years before he did.

      Ayn Rand was a Philosopher and Writer who developed Objectivist philosophy (and was ironically biased against women herself.

      Mohammad and ???Nastradamus??? (Nostradamus) have not made great contributions in my opinion.

      Most of what you describe has nothing to do with intelligence but other factors in success. It is difficult for women to reach great heights of success or power in the past or even today, simply because of sexist opinions and discouragement like the ones in your comment.

      However, it won???t always be like that. Today there is a greater number of women in colleges and universities obtaining higher educations than men. So much so that some schools are holding lower standards for male applicants for acceptance in order to even out the demographics. What do universities say about that? ???Female students won???t want attend schools with no/low numbers of males anyway.??? While other studies have shown that classes with all female students perform better than co-ed classrooms, simply because of distractions and conversely, all boy classrooms do more poorly than co-ed, presumably because of the competition involved.

      Even so, I don't hate men. (I'm "not hating") but I think most of the people who commented on this article should grow up or get an education themselves, regardless of their gender. I would say intelligence is probably 95% environmentally developed anyway.

  • Posted By: emma_mahat@yahoo.com @ 01/29/2008 12:16:41 AM

    Actually women and men are supposed to be same in the matter of perception.May be women pscylogy is a bit different by the nature, nature creat s them as men more powers,energetic whereas women weak ness in being less energetic in comparision to men.So women underestimate their own power.

  • Posted By: HeidiSheister @ 01/29/2008 12:14:06 AM

    i saw a man spray pheromone on himself and pull chicks...? can i really get some at xfragrances.com

  • Posted By: vampedup @ 01/29/2008 12:07:05 AM

    The reason that women during the times of Einstein, Socrate, Plato... etc. etc. were not recognized is because they were shunned as intellectual beings. The great women of history have been played down and forgotten. Men's egos couldn't take the toll of admitting women the top spots. Put down, not allowed education; who knows what would have come had there been equality. Even when it came to voting, former slave men were given the right to vote before women. It's been happening for centuries, but it is changing. Women today are taking over big business and still running their homes. Society's shifting, so get ready for it boys. Gender rules are being broken and a new generation of strong, intelligent girls is being raised to take over. We no longer feel as though we have to sacrifice our careers and lives to make babies and clean up after you.

  • Posted By: easyflyer 7108 @ 01/29/2008 12:05:26 AM

    Men Really are the Stupid ones After all We Invented All Those Items To Free The Housewife !! So She coul d have Timme To Watch The Soaps on The TV that men invented! And don't Forget the Electricity! For God's Sake if Old Ben Franklin Hadn't been playing around wasting time flyin that stupid KITE we still wouldn't know What ELECTRICITY IS!!

  • Posted By: schlpsych @ 01/29/2008 12:03:49 AM

    You folks who keep name dropping and bringing up the fact that there aren't as many women inventors, scientists and the like forget that throughout history women have been incredibly oppressed and forbidden to compete against men in areas like amth and science. Mots of the progress and leveling of the playing field have only taken place in the last half of the century. Most colleges and places of higher learning were not even co-educational until the last half of the 20th century.The same thing is true for African Americans, is it not? There have not been as many famous and other wise noteworthy inventors and scientists who were also people of color, but they had a bit of oppression to overcome too (like slavery). White men conveniently forget that for awhile you were the only ones allowed to be in the game. Excuse us if it takes a while for us to build our batting average, when for most of history, we weren't alllowed to hold the frickin bat!!!

    BTW- I administer IQ tests for a living. Most of us school pscyhologists do not put much stock in the score on one single assessment. We usually corroborate data with additional tests. There is so much individual variation on intelligence tests. I have seen girls do wonderfully on tests of spatial ability and not so well in verbal areas, wheras I have also seen boys do lousy in areas of non-verbal intelligence. It really is quite difficult to generalize.

    P.S. Why do people like "diamony" even post anything? You have nothing but cretinous bile to contribute. The bible can be a frightening piece of literature in the hands of someone like you.

  • Posted By: Zeph @ 01/29/2008 12:00:36 AM

    Hmmm, so far I've seen several people make lists of the most important people in history... everyone on these lists were male, and everyone who MADE these lists were male. Coincidence?

  • Posted By: theskeptic @ 01/29/2008 12:00:03 AM

    Intelligence, perceived or real, run the gamut from genius to retarded in both sexes regardless of what one thinks they are capable of. I don't think I am more or less intelligent then women, or even that intelligent, though I know I am not stupid. What I think of myself is not important. What others think of me is not important. I attempt to do something and I either succeed or fail. I might think I will fail or succeed and may do the opposite anyway. This is just media hoopla and a way to justify someone's big paycheck and to keep people reading magazines, web sites, newspapers, and other forms of fluff journalism, which this article is. It's like the paparazzi and the celebrities. Someone wants to get rich and someone wants a picture of someone and someone is willing to pay for that picture and someone is willing to do whatever it takes to get that picture and sell it so they can get rich. Princess Diana died so people can gawk at a grainy newspaper print of her doing something that isn't any different than the rest of the human population does. Greed, envy, idol worship, blasphemy, lust, murder, and every sin imaginable gets attention in every newspaper and magazine in existence. Research into this type of thing is what the apostle Peter warned about when he said people would gain "dangerous knowledge". There are some things that are better left a mystery and exploring such areas of knowledge is dangerous and blasphemous as well. Let well enough alone or you may someday wish you had kept your thoughts to yourself. Your paycheck isn't worth it. I am directing this at both the researchers, writers of columns like this, and the media that prints it. Beware of dangerous knowledge for it can be your undoing. Some things are just better left in the dark. It's like exploring abandoned ruins and it can all collapse on top of you before you know it. I may sound threatening, but I am just saying some secrets should remain secret, for you might not like what you find.

  • Posted By: lostcause21 @ 01/28/2008 11:59:18 PM

    I'd have to agree with jessieraymond, men and women are pretty much leveling out now a days do to the opportunities that have just recently been given to them. (equal rights, ability to attend collages, etc.) The stereotype that men are smarter then women has only existed because of women being unable to learn, and go to school as openly as men have in the past. I'm not trying to bash on men, or stand up for women, but I mean seriously look at the clues. Since women have gotten equal rights, and have been able to work side by side with men, if they so please, they have started to catch up and run multimillion dollar industries as well as there counter part. And the reason that no one has really ever heard of bright women is because history has been written by MEN. Women have been looked down upon for hundreds of years, and for a woman to be smarter then a man or to be wiser then a man, back then was really unheard of because of the lack of education. Think guys (and girls) just cause that girl/guy next to you acts like they're dumb dosn't really mean that they lack inteligence, or the power to comprehend and keep up in academics, they just like to act dumb to hide the fact that they are smart so maybe people will not copy them or pester them for help. In my opion I think that those people are actually thinking on a higher level, or maybe like it is stated in the article above, they just lack the self-esteem.

  • Posted By: chief-apache @ 01/28/2008 11:58:22 PM

    ok first of all "xxnightowlxx" says this is written by a women,wich would make totel sense.less-us tinks bout dis.first off(that bad grammer a women wouldnt understand was ment as some sort-a joke)when yet a man has a unique type of social "skill level" a women has a different (and who knows.maybe better)type of social abiletys.lets look at the "famed" men.and "famed" women.what did they do? will women like sacajawea who explored with louis and clark.she wanted "peace" (a very women like thing,right fellas?)and most all the things women did involved stuff like that.good wholesome exploreing,treedy-making,and so-forth.but,....men have been famed for engineering and such.because we have a need to want to do major.extremitys.such as make flying transportation.railroads.many weapon advancements.open up the guinness book of world records and check out what i mean,when it comes to sports....women can say ther as good as men.but how come most of the world records are held by men?fastest baseball pitch....anyone??? but when it comes to flat intelegents....women get it....they can pick up a book and be all "oh,i got a 1++ on my test.me happy" when a guy is so consernd with other things.or what he thinks is more inportant.he didnt studie.and got a "f" and hes "yeah.i faild,happens right?ill still get a good job.cause ima hard worker" women dont really get "skills" like men.but men of corse.have the permenent platue of never being able to handle socialising with people and what-not.like a women would.man.brings bread.and handles problems.takes care of his family.women helps.and offer wisdom to the man in such a way wich the man will listen.and understand what to do.women talk with feeling.men with emphasis.dont ask a women."what do you think about this?" ask here "how do you feel about this" and the man what he thinks.it works much better.so here how ill summ this up.GUYS....you cant even express your opinion.and your pretty darn stupid.you"l fail at many things.all you can do.is try.get "skills" (wich can be intelegents) and learn the most you can.even if its from a women(you hate that dont you?if a women said it you"d understand.even tho you still wouldnt like it) and LADYS....dont be folln around with guys(egging them on)....that aint right.i know this.take it from me....just try to get involved with smothing else then "your social life" emmm k?(another joke a women wouldnt get.sorry about that)if "yo man" siting infront of the tv doing something.go watch "the game" with him.even if he may act like "what is she doing in here.messing with me" he just thinks you came in ther to annoy him.sit ther for a while.and take a interest in what hes doing....i tell ya,a card throwing.parkour useing.gambit fan

  • Posted By: chief-apache @ 01/28/2008 11:56:48 PM

    ok first of all "xxnightowlxx" says this is written by a women,wich would make totel sense.less-us tinks bout dis.first off(that bad grammer a women wouldnt understand was ment as some sort-a joke)when yet a man has a unique type of social "skill level" a women has a different (and who knows.maybe better)type of social abiletys.lets look at the "famed" men.and "famed" women.what did they do? will women like sacajawea who explored with louis and clark.she wanted "peace" (a very women like thing,right fellas?)and most all the things women did involved stuff like that.good wholesome exploreing,treedy-making,and so-forth.but,....men have been famed for engineering and such.because we have a need to want to do major.extremitys.such as make flying transportation.railroads.many weapon advancements.open up the guinness book of world records and check out what i mean,when it comes to sports....women can say ther as good as men.but how come most of the world records are held by men?fastest baseball pitch....anyone??? but when it comes to flat intelegents....women get it....they can pick up a book and be all "oh,i got a 1++ on my test.me happy" when a guy is so consernd with other things.or what he thinks is more inportant.he didnt studie.and got a "f" and hes "yeah.i faild,happens right?ill still get a good job.cause ima hard worker" women dont really get "skills" like men.but men of corse.have the permenent platue of never being able to handle socialising with people and what-not.like a women would.man.brings bread.and handles problems.takes care of his family.women helps.and offer wisdom to the man in such a way wich the man will listen.and understand what to do.women talk with feeling.men with emphasis.dont ask a women."what do you think about this?" ask here "how do you feel about this" and the man what he thinks.it works much better.so here how ill summ this up.GUYS....you cant even express your opinion.and your pretty darn stupid.you"l fail at many things.all you can do.is try.get "skills" (wich can be intelegents) and learn the most you can.even if its from a women(you hate that dont you?if a women said it you"d understand.even tho you still wouldnt like it) and LADYS....dont be folln around with guys(egging them on)....that aint right.i know this.take it from me....just try to get involved with smothing else then "your social life" emmm k?(another joke a women wouldnt get.sorry about that)if "yo man" siting infront of the tv doing something.go watch "the game" with him.even if he may act like "what is she doing in here.messing with me" he just thinks you came in ther to annoy him.sit ther for a while.and take a interest in what hes doing....i tell ya,a card throwing.parkour useing.gambit fan.....i would faint if i met....

  • Posted By: kamaro @ 01/28/2008 11:55:58 PM

    I agree that men are smarter than women IN GENERAL....but both of them are equal...simple explanation can understand by everyone......am I right....I don't need to explain it further because it is simple...

  • Posted By: kamaro @ 01/28/2008 11:55:36 PM

    I agree that men are smarter than women IN GENERAL....but both of them are equal...simple explanation can understand by everyone......am I right....I don't need to explain it further because it is simple...

  • Posted By: doll8parts @ 01/28/2008 11:51:12 PM

    There is an important aspect missing from his research- the comparison of class systems and education when discussing intelligence. I believe that there are plenty of people who have the ability to learn, they just don't have the same means or opportunity that others do. This applies to both genders equally when discussing that particular aspect of socio-economics. It seems though, that "stupidity" spans the board. A person can be a genius when it comes to computer programming, but may still enjoy base activities such as watching reality television or really bad movies. Also, a person's religious values and beliefs can prevent a person from acknowledging certain kinds of education. This does not necessarily make a person stupid, but it can make people believe in stupid things (the sun revolves around the earth, dinosaurs are fake, Creationism over Darwinism). This also suggests that "measured intelligence" verses "environmental stigma" (or lack of when discussing education) are two entirely separate things and in no way measure how much brain capacity that particular individual is capable of. Furnham's research concludes that men and women have about equal intelligence. What I am pointing out is in the same line as that thinking- that these factors apply to human beings as a whole and in general have nothing to do with gender at all. -RV, Silicon Valley

  • Posted By: kamaro @ 01/28/2008 11:51:11 PM

    I agree that men are smarter than women IN GENERAL....but both of them are equal...simple explanation can understand by everyone......am I right....I don't need to explain it further because it is simple...

  • Posted By: Fieldsmt24 @ 01/28/2008 11:50:21 PM

    Hello men and women, or women and men for the inssecure ones.
    Whom ever posted the fourth grade style "Frakkkkk off " comment and then stated proudly thier female
    gender, should have to wear a helmet to use the restroom. And for the love of god turn in your drivers liscensce STAT!
    Jessy, Seatttle

  • Posted By: Firerain11 @ 01/28/2008 11:49:45 PM

    In my school there are three girls at the top and then we have alot of boys in the middle and then a boy on the bottom too....

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