The Clintons’ Patronizing Strategy

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  • Posted By: jacondo @ 01/24/2008 3:19:07 PM

    Since many people seem to think Obama has not been scrutinized as much as Hillary has (I disagree), I would like to see one example of Hillary's ever having been asked by a member of the media to describe this much-touted "experience" she's running on. Bill was president, not Hillary. Someone should ask her to specifically describe her policy role in her husband's administration. The answer could be very interesting, As for genuine experience, as it happens, Barack Obama has held elective office longer than she has -- 11 years to her 7.

  • Posted By: jheberle @ 01/24/2008 3:18:56 PM

    Wow, this article comes up and the smear ad in S.C. comes down. Amazing. Looks like we can expect a tear from Hillary tomorrow. And also why Chelsea Clinton articles are starting to pop-up.

    Someone seriously miscalculated when they thought it was a good thing to get Bill out there so much and negative campaigning was seriously going to take down a movement. It's official, the internet and the 24 hour news machine has taken down the Clinton's. Time of death - 11:29 a.m. ET Jan 24, 2008.

  • Posted By: outwest @ 01/24/2008 1:50:23 PM

    This race will end up focusing on electibility. With the Whitewater investigations,affairs and endless inverstigations in the Clinton's past, the Republicans would love to have the Clintons run. I'm suprised that Obama hasn't started talking about character,truthfulness, and honesty in business transactions.

    • Posted By: lamm01 @ 01/24/2008 3:14:20 PM

      Maybe because then he would start having to answers some real questions

  • Posted By: PEOHope @ 01/24/2008 1:50:38 PM

    Bill Clinton was entrusted with the presidency and disgraced that institution. He is now entrusted with the institution of the ex-presidency and he is tarnishing that. If he becomes first spouse he will also degrade that institution.

    • Posted By: lamm01 @ 01/24/2008 3:13:43 PM

      Get real. Clinton was entrusted with the presidency and did nothing more than grow the economy, stabilize foregin relations and kept this country at peace. His indiscretion was little or no more than what half you present Congress and elected officials are doing. At least he didn't bring us to an unending, terminal costly war, overhwleming and tragic financial collapse and complete ruin as a once respected and feared nation.

  • Posted By: jwhite1202 @ 01/24/2008 2:36:59 PM

    Clinton is grave danger of losing her party and the general election by trying to win the democratic primary the way she is trying to right now. She will alienate a significant portion of the black vote, and the independent vote. The reason Obama has become so popular is that he has set a new bar in terms of campaigning. Clinton with the mud slinging is doing now what will be done to her in November. The difference being



    she will not have as many political backers as her GOP opponent. Clinton is splitting the democratic party apart pandering to the lowest common denominator. If she cannot unite the party how in the heck will she unite a very fractured senate and country for that matter? I hear some say a vote for Obama is a vote for the GOP. I disagree, for every vote Clinton wins in the primary through her current mud slinging tactics, she
    will lose two in the general election. Clinton, win off of your experience and ability to tell your story, not off of what Obama has or has not done. I want to hear more about what Clinton has done from Clinton not about how bad Obama is.

  • Posted By: schwannomin @ 01/24/2008 1:01:22 PM

    Clinton supporters: A few questions.
    1. Is it Hillary or Bill running for president?
    2. What are your thoughts on Democracy versus Monarchy?
    3. Will you vote for Chelsea in 2016 because of her vast experience? She will be 35 by then.
    4. Do you really think Hillary has any crossover appeal when her negatives nationally are in the 40%'s?
    5. Didn't we learn in 2004 that nominating "experience" costs us the best candidate every time?
    6. Didn't we decide in 2000 and 2004 that we HATE slash and burn politics?
    Democrats! Please stop her! She is using Rove tactics that divide the party and suppress votes in November even if she does get the nomination. I am a Democrat to my core, but Bloomberg will look awfully appealing if she wins like this.

    • Posted By: PissedDEM @ 01/24/2008 3:10:23 PM

      1. Hillary THINKS she's running for President but Bill will prove her wrong when he takes over the White House. No One will stop him or help her in any way, but that's what you get for selling your sole.

      2. Democracy rules every time....I wish we had one....

      3. *LOL* I was just digesting this freaky thought with someone the other day. I hope no one gets this fruity idea, but I guess once Jeb runs the monarchy will have no one else to turn to.

      4. If she wins, even I won't vote for her, and I'm a white female liberal...she's toasted.

      5. I like Kerry but must admit, he didn't run a great campaign.

      6. Only when this is convenient for the Clinton machine....otherwise we LOVE slash and burn politics! *L*

      Side Note: I hope we can stop her but people do tend to be sheep. I've already sent two hundred to Obama and am working on another 100 before February 5th. Otherwise I guess we just pray!

  • Posted By: doozer @ 01/24/2008 3:09:06 PM

    I think you only hear what you want to hear. I agree that some of the things that the Clintons are saying about Obama aren't exactly as he said them, but a lot of things that he said about the Republicians sounded like double talk to me . And the same thing can be said about the things Obama said about the Clintons. Aslo this race card thing is BULL-S***. This should not even be mentioned and buy the way most of the time is is Obama, or some of his people that keep it going. I haven't made up my mind about who I will vote for on Saturday yet, But I agree with Mr. Clinton when he says that most Americans are smart enoug to see through all the bull. Even yours.

  • Posted By: jimtranr @ 01/24/2008 3:06:47 PM

    Talk about "patronizing" with your reference to the "less educated" among the Democratic base. Maybe I'm one of those, but it seems to me that Bill Clinton was "transformative" in his approach to budget balancing and the deficit during his presidency. And it strikes me that, in the public mind at least, doing what he did in those areas defied the "conventional wisdom" about Democrats in the White House. So Barack Obama deserves to take his lumps for apparently forgetting--or worse, giving short shrift to--that in his interview with the Reno newspaper's editorial board. Invoking Reagan and the Republicans' "ideas" and cloaking them in what at best was an uncritical light in the midst of a Democratic primary campaign demonstrates just how politically un-savvy he is. And that's an attribute that deserves to be brought to light when voters, whatever their education, are considering who they want as a leader.

  • Posted By: kdantuon @ 01/24/2008 3:03:56 PM

    Mr. Alter references external characterizations of these attacks as "outrageous and dishonest" as well as "demonstrably false." He himself describes the attacks as "preposterous", "bogus", and "major distortions." How then does he get away with characterizing this as "patronizing?" These are outright lies and he should have the courage to call them that!

  • Posted By: ReneeKing @ 01/24/2008 3:01:27 PM

    Thank you, thank you for this article. I'm so disgusted and feel so disillusioned by how the Clinton campaign has chosen to handle things these past two weeks and I've been feeling rather alone in my disgust. This article provided a bit of comfort and validation.

  • Posted By: Xander @ 01/24/2008 2:59:56 PM

    All of this only reminds us just how horrible the Clintons are.

  • Posted By: RodBickles @ 01/24/2008 2:57:42 PM

    Mr. Alter: Maybe you should look again at Obama's original quote and Hillary's response. Obama first mentions Reagan, and then refers to Republicans of the last 10-15 years. This mathematically excludes Reagan, and as far as I can tell (you don't actually quote Hillary) Hillray never mentions Reagan. Look at the debate transcript of this argument and see that she doesn't actually refer to him except to say she didn't mention him. If you can't criticize the Clintons with facts, its not right to use fictions.

  • Posted By: PWKearns @ 01/24/2008 2:57:36 PM

    Now don't you all go gettin yourselves in a tizzy. Mr. Bill and Miss Hillary will fix everything, just like they always did. Now, if you want to show your gratitude, don't you go listenin' to that Obama boy, he ain't nothin' but trouble. Remember, Mr. Bill and Ms. Hillary know what's best for you.

  • Posted By: ericrsiny @ 01/24/2008 2:57:03 PM

    If I was Obama I would use Booker very selectively. His record at keeping people safe in Newark is not that amazing now is it?

  • Posted By: ericrsiny @ 01/24/2008 2:55:32 PM

    Barack might want to use Booker in a very delicate manner. His record on keeping people safe in Newark has not been all that great.

  • Posted By: roarkj @ 01/24/2008 2:54:21 PM

    I have never voted for a Republican in a presidential race (I am 64 years old), but I will vote for one if my choices are Hillary Clinton and John McCain. And the Alter article wonderfully explains why.

  • Posted By: yblady @ 01/24/2008 2:37:38 PM

    I am happy to report that I am not dumb enough to let a columnist tell me what to think. I prefer to watch, listen, and read for myself...not just comments from pundits but from the mouths of the candidates as well.

    I continue to ask the same question that I have been asking since this campaign began. When will all of the mainstream media give Obama the same scrutiny that seems to be saved only for Hillary and, once again, Bill Clinton? Since when is questioning someone's comments or his record an attack? Why is it not an attack when Obama does it to her? Why isn't it fair to ask why he voted present 129 times? Why did he mess up six votes in the Illinois Senate? What is his connection to Rezko...in particular with the sale of the land on which his house sits? Why indeed is it unfair to question his motive in bringing up, of all people, Ronald Reagan?

    I have listened to Obama's comments, I have read the transcript, and I still walk away scratching my head at his reason for invoking the name of Ronald Reagan. Could it be that it was meant to appeal to the conservative area of Nevada served by the Reno newspaper? Might he be playing the same political games that he says only the Clintons play? Was the implied insult of Bill Clinton in the same commentary an accident? He may not have said literally that he liked Republican ideas, but he certainly didn't distance himself from them. If I hadn't know better, I would have thought I was listening to a Republican candidate.

    I'm all for giving the other side credit when it's due. But it usually doesn't happen in the middle of a Democratic primary. Forgive me and others for thinking that choosing to invoke Reagan's name at this time was bad judgement on Obama's part.

    I started out as an Obama supporter, but since then I haven't been impressed. Inspiring speeches with little substance, his one-note song about Hillary being representative of politics as usual, and the free pass he has been given by the star-struck media leave me cold. His arrogant, mean-spirited performance at the New Hampshire debate was brushed over by all of you. It was enough, despite what he said yesterday at an event where he claimed he would surely get Hillary's supporters if he wins the nomination, to ensure that he will not get my vote under any circumstances.

    In the beginning, I wasn't sure Hillary had the substance...I was caught up in the media's portrayal of her belief in her inevitability. If I had listened to the media instead of to her in all of the debates, I would have missed what an accomplished, committed, and yes, experienced public servant she is. I have become a staunch Clinton supporter.

    Just so you know, I am a 56 year old Caucasian woman with a master's degree.

    • Posted By: bluethunder1962 @ 01/24/2008 2:50:54 PM

      I'm a 46 year old Caucasion woman with a master's degree. Big deal. I'm supporting Obama, because he's smart, will unite us, not divide us, and I don't want eight years of Billary's corruption, lies, vitriol, and tearing the country apart. However, the US deserves the president they elect. Look how that turned out for those who voted for Bush. If the US elects Hillary, which probably wont' happen anyway, then don't start crying when it turns into the biggest train-wreck you will ever witness.

    • Posted By: jwhite1202 @ 01/24/2008 2:50:47 PM

      yblady,

      I do not agree with your views but I can appreciate the fact that you pay attention. I am all for the political process playing out, but Clinton and her attack dog husband have reverted to Rovian political tactics. I am no media apologist, but what the Clintons are doing is sickening and should be highlighted in the media. Again, I commend you for having taken the time to get some facts on both candidates, we don't have to all vote for the same person, but at least know why beyond he's black, she's a woman. In my opinion that's lowest common denominator voting. And for the record, I am a 38 year old black man with two master's degrees.

  • Posted By: ratwod @ 01/24/2008 2:50:09 PM

    Obama reminds me too much of another smooth talking, charismatic Washington outsider--Jimmy Carter. Obama has great rhetoric, but will not have the ability to implement his ideas. There is not going to be a wholesale change in Congress or the Senate, which is going to leave Obama having to rely on his skills as an insider to get things done. He has not track record of accomplishments, so I doubt his abilities.

  • Posted By: corvuscorax51 @ 01/24/2008 2:48:02 PM

    Like it or not--and we sometimes like to forget it--Bill and Hilary Clinton are politicans. First and foremost--again whether we like it or not--they view their jobs as getting elected, and amassing power. That is simply what politicans do. More often than not, those who win are those who do whatever is necessary, and it isn't always nice. One need only recall the sliming of John Kerry by the Bush II team, and the similar attempt at destroying John McCain earlier by questioning his patriotism in South Carolina. The barrage of mudslinging continues, and always will, since the politics of personal destruction seems to triumph in spite of our recognizing how unsavory it all is. The real test will come when we realize that we've elected the last man--or woman--standing, who just happens to be the least objectionable candidate, rather than the most capable and qualified to lead this country during one of the most dangerous times in its history. The sad commentary is about the voters who destroy and elect candidates, since we should all know by now that politicans, by their very nature, say whatever they need to do win the fight.

  • Posted By: susanmn @ 01/24/2008 2:46:22 PM

    You call yourself a reporter? I've read and usually enjoyed your columns in Newsweek for years, but this partisan rant is really disturbing. When did you join the Obama campaign? Apparently you're no longer a journalist, you're just another muckraker stirring the pot for your candidate of choice. BTW, I'm neither poor nor stupid and I'm cancelling my subscription to Newsweek.

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