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Whose side is Joe Lieberman on?

By Jeffrey Bartholet | Newsweek Web Exclusive
Jan 24, 2008 | Updated: 1:29  p.m. ET Jan 24, 2008

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  • Posted By: JJJJJ @ 03/17/2008 5:07:53 PM

    Comment: McCain was given the opportunity to leave the POW camp in Vietnam because he was the son of an admiral, but instead choose to remain in captivity unitl EVERYONE else was released. His loyalty to his countrymen led to 6 more years of TORTURE. McCain is to be admired for this, and yes, he IS A HERO.

    To MEREDITH_ROLLO, guardedlyoptimistic, Chaotician, and any other bleeding-heart, hate America, run and hide limousine liberals who CANNOT RECOGNIZE AND APPRECIATE THE TORMENT THAT MCCAIN ENDURED IN VIETNAM - SHAME ON YOU!!!!

    How dare you call into question this man's allegience to his country. And dumb a@@ guardedlyoptimistic, Bush did not get into "2 wars" - Afghanastan was because of 9/11 - to you remember 9/11? You know, where 3,000 Americans were murdered!

    Mrs Hate the Troops, MEREDITH_ROLLO , "Politicians will expend soldiers lives'.....and McCain should be familiar with that scenario!!! Just another 'Ivy League' appointed and supposed "War Hero"...." ----what the hell are you commenting about.? McCain was being tortured in a POW camp while the "ivy leages" were protesting the war from the comfort of their east coast mansion - so get your facts straight!!!!

    People like you line up to spit on the returning soldiers while looking down from your ivory towers. Your are pathetic and your pious attitudes towards the troops makes me sick.

  • Posted By: guardedlyoptimistic @ 03/15/2008 1:32:12 AM

    Comment: I don't think you'll see Lieberman on the ticket...if that were likely I imagine McCain would have accepted Kerry's offer to be his vice presidential candidate in 2004. While I personally respect Mr McCain, I KNOW for sure that a vote for McCain is a vote for war and it's a vote for a continuation of Bush policies that have made the people of this country sick (sometimes literally) and tired of feeling less free, less secure, less proud, and definitely, less safe! Name one "accomplishment" of the Bush years? There are none...he's gotten us into 2 wars and ruined the economy! The Republicans inheirted a huge surplus when Bush became President and turned it into a colassal deficit! The government procured more secrecy and deceit for themselves while we suffered the loss of our civil rights! We were duped...that makes it a no brainer....they fooled us, twice! We know for certain that they lied to us, they spent all our money, lost our jobs, failed to protect us...and just generally lost interest in us....if you're willing to bend over again... you're going to get kicked in the ass...again..Sooooo, to avoid that ,vote for a Democrat and with a Democratic congress, things will get done that will benefit the people of this country and not just the corporations!

  • Posted By: MEREDITH_ROLLO @ 02/05/2008 11:51:00 PM

    Comment: I agree Mr. Ferdi....Mr. Lieberman brings a lot of baggage....which is the real story of McCain.... Just more Baggage, filled with Garbage...at the expense of US Taxpayers and US Soldiers'....along with Coalition forces...

    And McCain Supports the Troops??? ... McCain is just the usual "Neo-Con"....as if we didn't already know that....

    Politicians will expend soldiers lives'.....and McCain should be familiar with that scenario!!!

    Just another 'Ivy League' appointed and supposed "War Hero"....

    War Hero? What exactly is that Senator McCain??? I believe it's a term, that has been coined by politicians' to "rally up the troops" at the beginning of conflict....and when they return home, should the Grace of God permit, they get abandoned by those 'waving Old Glory' at the outset!!! ....(Korea, Vietnam, Gulf War 1 ring a bell???)

    Of course, people like Lieberman come along, with foreign support and cash, and start the "cycle" all over again.... ....just don't say Christ!!! Amen....

    McCain and Lieberman.... FOR A NEW AMERICA!!! A NEW VISION!!! A BOLD DIRECTION!!!

    "BombBombBomb...BombBombIran......." Way to Go McCain!!! Yeah!!! Welcome to the NeoCon Machine!!!
    need to use

  • Posted By: Chaotician @ 01/29/2008 10:20:45 PM

    Comment: I must confess I loath the man and everything he stands for! I believe he is a traitor to America; should immigrate to Jewish Palestine and join the Zionist fools who resemble their persecutors, Stalin and Hitler; and have become the very pariahs that they claim the world has treated them as. He is at best misguided and his support of George and his illegal, immoral, and corrupt ME actions is additional grounds for his condemnation.

  • Posted By: hoopes_az @ 01/28/2008 12:54:35 PM

    Comment: He's clearly on McCain's side. The "Republicrat".

  • Posted By: BILL5321 @ 01/26/2008 2:44:16 PM

    Comment: Joe is a cool guy.

    He at least he trying to do what right.

    More than I can say about the Clinton when Bill was in office.

  • Posted By: Mwalimu @ 01/26/2008 12:05:46 AM

    Comment: Actually Joe Lieberman is neither a sell-out, a turn-coat or a traitor, because the only person Joe Lieberman cares about is Joe Lieberman. He???s a puppet of the American Enterprise Institute, the K Street lobbyists, the war profiteers, and the Israel lobby. He finds nothing wrong with siding with a president who has lied to the public 953 times, so much for Lieberman???s character. As long as K Street stays in business, Lieberman doesn???t give a rat anything or anyone else.

  • Posted By: awynative @ 01/25/2008 9:55:59 PM

    Comment: Saltydog,

    Thanks for a good post.

    It is the integrity of McCain and Lieberman that endears them to me. I TRUST McCain, and, I admire him.

    I am not as harsh as you with respect to McCain's patronization of the Christian Right or his surface acquiescence to opposition to campaign finance reform. Witness the rebuke he has faced in advocating a bipartisan solution for immigration reform.

    The myth of the "Global War on Terror" has been hyperbole whose prosecution has resulted in blunders with tragic consequences we must begin to repair by a change in leadership and foreign policy perspective. Dialogue and strategic aid to countries like IRan are critical. In our occupation of IraQ, it is long past time for us to enlist the capital resources of the U.N. to complement our provision of security Is that McCain's perspective? I'm doubtful.

  • Posted By: Gerald G. @ 01/25/2008 7:02:06 PM

    Comment: Joe is one of the last great Americans who puts his principles ahead of partisan politics!

  • Posted By: CassandraSays @ 01/25/2008 5:01:00 PM

    Comment: Joe started out applying the sub-caudal kiss to the Cuban-American terrorists, who bought his seat for him from Lowell Weicker after Weicker described Fidel Castro as a friend.

    Once he got started he found he liked it.

  • Posted By: Saltydog_0 @ 01/25/2008 3:47:49 PM

    Comment: First of all, I strongly disagree with Lieberman about national security being the biggest issue facing America. I also disagree with his (and McCain's) stance on Iraq. I think they've both been hoodwinked by the chicken little cry of "The terrorists are coming! The terrorists are coming!". We lose more lives to automobile accidents in a month than we've lost to terrorists over the past decade, but nobody's willing to dump 2 trillion dollars combating General Motors.


    Nonetheless, I am impressed by Lieberman's ability to stay true to his beliefs, however misguided I think they are. Integrity is in extremely short supply in Washington. Other politicians should take a page from Lieberman and vote their conscience. In fact, John McCain could learn a thing or two from his friend. I used to believe that McCain was the lone politico in Washington who acted according to his beliefs. That opinion was destroyed after he responded to his loss in the 2000 primaries by pressing his once heroic lips to the backside of the Christian right. Nobody was fooled by disingenious pandering to the close-minded, reactionary segment of his party he once would have never allowed at his table. It was a stab in the heart to those of us who once admired him for standing up for what he believed regardless of the political consequences.

    Same thing regarding McCain's stance on campaign finance reform. He once fought the good fight. . .and lost to Bush, who embodied the unscrupulous corporate political environment in Washington that McCain truly despised. Instead of sticking to his guns, McCain joined the darkside. Again, it's a stab in the heart to watch the American political system do to McCain what years in a Vietnamese prison camp failed to do; break his spirit and cause him to kowtow to the ugly forces of evil he once opposed.

    Hopefully McCain will learn a little from his supporter, Joseph Lieberman, and remember how good it feels to be true to oneself. If he does, and returns to his 2000 form, he'd make a good president. If not, he'll make a good stooge, just like George.

  • Posted By: stout77 @ 01/25/2008 12:36:28 PM

    Comment: davideferdi - For the record, I am a Methodist. I find it ironic that the very people that religious fundamentalists loathe (people without a god, typically liberal self-proclaimed "intellectuals") are the first ones to come to their defense. It seems "open-mindedness" may have crossed the line into simple self-loathing stupidity in your case. Making the argument to turn our backs on one of our strongest and most strategically-located allies only goes to reinforce this notion. Here in the real world we choose our allies based on common interests, and I can think of none shared between myself and the people trying to destroy Israel.

    • Posted By: davidferdi @ 01/28/2008 12:22:16

      Comment: Stout77- I do not believe in your common interest. Common interest usually comes down to self interest.
      I do not look for the destruction of israel. I believe in what a true Jewish (neutra karta) group professes. Jews want a place to call home as do every self determining group, but at what expense?
      I am an American of single citizenship. Why should my children and I be dragged into the jewish/Muslim phenomenon. The way the creation of Israel was done was immoral and unethical. Look to what it has snowballed into. although politics seems to be a neccessary evil, I dislike it. MONEY/FAVORS IS THE ROOT OF POLITICS. Politics is not based on real Truth,decency, altruistic motives. what you seem to project is the typical good ol boy washington mentality of "what's in it for me." or the "we need to protect our liberties from these religious fundamentalist." The Washington fear factor is so implanted in you simpl-mined neo-cons that you live by the "today is level orange " just to feel safe. There must be real consessions on the part of jewish leadership in terms of the Palistinian plight. It is evident that there wills are not easily broken. That is why I do not want a Joe Lieberman as a representative of USA.

    • Posted By: coachleif @ 01/25/2008 13:12:35

      Comment: stout77
      Here! Here! I strongly second your opinion. Gee, the ONLY reason we would support Israel is because we're Zionists?!?! Obviously NOT. I've about given up on the TWO party system -- unless you mean let's have two parties, one at your house and one at mine to celebrate Independent thinking and committment. I'm ready to work as hard as I did for McCarthy in the 60's and John Anderson and Ross Perot later for a strong third party so that coalition government -- government by concensus -- responsive government can become a reality. In our infancy and adolescence as a nation we were characterized by more than two national parties and by more than (usually) 3 or 4 at the state and local levels. Now, for all practical purposes, most states are controlled by one party only for generations and most local elections have only one viable party. Enough, enough, enough of this nonsense already. Get a brain AND a backbone and make your feelings known through NONVOTING in November. Vote for all the local and regional politicos who might have an influence on your day-to-day living. Vote for Staeweide offices but do NOT vote for National offices. It's the only way under the current system to show, conclusively that it's the Natioanl two-party system that needs reconstruction. There is no other viable method and it's from a demonstration such as this that new leaders get the nerve and backing to try to establish something else. It's time to take it to the streets with a purpose. Not anarchy but reconstruction.

  • Posted By: stout77 @ 01/25/2008 11:47:08 AM

    Comment: Potus - I couldn't agree with you more. It seems open-mindedness has been replaced with blind objection to anything that the other party does. It is refreshing to see politicians reaching across party lines to actually acomplish something for us, the voters. The beauty of America is that we can disagree in harmony without throwing rocks or lighting things on fire (in most cases anyway). At least Lieberman has the guts to go against the grain, and the same attribute could just propel McCain into the White House. it must be exhausting for other politicians who have to refer to their party checklist ever time they are asked a question. The partisan politics serve only to create a divide between Americans, which is potentially dangerous to us in the long run. Lets all wise up a little and be the free thinkers that we were born to be. By the way, have any of you anti-semites heard of Stockhom Syndrome? Don't mistake your "open-mindedness" for this very real psychological weakness.

  • Posted By: misterharban @ 01/25/2008 11:24:07 AM

    Comment: It sounds like the many of Joe's detractors would be satisfied by dealing with him and with Israel by simply cutting them loose. A final solution by proxy. I am not Jewish and I would have never agreed with the creation of Israel the way it was done. But I am a human being who understands the responsibilities that attend the commitments we make. Make them carefully and then fulfill them fully and with honor.

  • Posted By: Cates @ 01/25/2008 11:02:20 AM

    Comment: Anti-Zionism is not racism, as Jews are not a race but rather an organized group. A group of people in the same way the Mafia is a group of people. The disgust fair minded people hold for Zionism is similar to that held toward the Mafia. It is wrong and evil to take things that don???t belong to you. It was wrong to steal and occupy the Palestinian???s land and most fair minded people find Zionist disgusting for doing so. Claiming that an imaginary god anointed one group as more special than the rest of us and gave the land to that group thousands of years ago does not impress fair minded people as reasonable and rational. Zionist will have to live with the fact that fair minded people despise the evil deeds done by any deceptive group of people, no mater how special they think they are.

    Supporting Israel is morally wrong and un-American. Lieberman has made it clear he supports Israel, not America.

    • Posted By: misterharban @ 01/25/2008 11:57:07

      Comment: I would never presume that you are a racist. Frankly, hateful bigot is probably closer to the target. Like most conflicts there are two sides to the Israel conflict. To brand only one side as evil and deceptive simply ignores the historical facts on the ground. More importantly, the greatest responsibility for the formation of Zion lies not with your hateful, deceptive Jews, but with the well meaning, if thoughtless, Americans and Europeans who facilitated its founding through the U.N. With a little practice you might be able to muster enough hatred to include these evil deceivers in your sweeping condemnation of those who are not like you. Surely, many mistakes have been made. The world would certainly benefit if people like you would work to channel your hateful energy toward solving a problem which many other intelligent people of good will have, as yet, not been unable to solve. Hopefully, you have something more creative than another cut at the final solution. Hopefully.

      • Posted By: ronbo60 @ 01/25/2008 12:20:07

        Comment: Attack all that you want; but, the truth as written by Cates can not be denied. Call names and attack all you want. My grandfather is jewish - and we both agree that Lieberman is doing a disservice to his country. I know you are going to say that I'm being hateful - It's your method. However, clear and ressoned thought will cool your heated attacks. If you wish for Israel to be the 51st state, then work for it.

        • Posted By: misterharban @ 01/25/2008 13:12:35

          Comment: I am not so enlightened as to have a clue as to what to do about Israel. I accept that reasonable people can disagree on this. I found Cates despicable characterization of Jews as religiously deluded, evil and deceptive people to be more or less consistent with the representations of Jews made by other hateful bigots. I am not a Zionist, nor would I necessarily support Zionism if it were a decision which was being made today. That decision was made a long time ago. What I would ask anti-Zionists today is what they would propose that would not simply compound the human suffering in the world. Trading the current unacceptable position of the Palestinians for an equally unacceptable position for Jews in Israel is neither moral nor just. It is not our place to either wish the Palestinians or the Jews into the cornfield. Cates is free to hate Jews or not. You are free to loathe Zionism or not. None of us ought to be able to face ourselves in the mirror by blithely proposing remedies which do not take account our responsibility for bringing this situation about and which would simply erase the legitimate claims to humanity that all of the parties have in this. Yes, it is complicated. Hitler tried a simple solution and the world recoiled in horror when it saw itself reflected in his mirror.

          My grandfather was a good man. Yet I remember him making the same vile characterizations of the Jews that Cates did. I work every day to try to see the world in different terms, because in this he was wrong. Maybe there should be no Israel, after all, it is only a country. Maybe the Jewish religion should perish, after all, it is only a religion. But Jews and Israel are people, as are Palestinians and Muslims. Sure, toss out Zion and Zionism. Tell me what will become of the people. Tell me what will become of the people.

  • Posted By: Potus @ 01/25/2008 10:42:35 AM

    Comment: Not only is it disgusting that there are racist comments made about Senator Lieberman and his faith--looking at the insults below--but it is also sad that so-called open minded and tolerant democrats can't stand a fellow democrat who does not follow party dogma. What ever happened to truly liberal and free thinking democrats?

    • Posted By: ronbo60 @ 01/25/2008 12:21:15

      Comment: If you think that Lieberman is free-thinking, you aren't following the money trail.

  • Posted By: coachleif @ 01/25/2008 10:36:06 AM

    Comment: Most of you Posters have missed the point and continue to miss the point Lieberman has been making for the past 4 years, at least and IT'S THE RIGHT POINT, THE MOST VITAL POINT for all of America. Two parties, as they currently are constituted and operate, don't work for America. They work only to continue consolidating their power and protecting their vested interests. You have two courageous and intelligent men willing to take a stand clearly for their country, not their parties or personal petty politics. They are to be congratulated and supported -- Lieberman and McCain. As Joe pointed out quite clearly in this interview, with 20 or more MAJOR issues of national concern facing a President or Congressman, a difference of opinion on a couple of those issues is insignificant because they govern ALL of the PEOPLE on ALL of the ISSUES. Of more concern is the candidate's ability to separate from Party Politics and excercise his or her judgement in a PREDICTABLE manner in concert with the best interests of the nation. Giuiliani is a gunslinger, Romney is a chameleon, changing colors with the change of the polls, Huckabee is way too one dimensional, Clinton too hard line Dem and all talk and no action, and Obama is too unknown (hence lack of predicability) and has shown a decided Romneyesque characteristic -- Mr. Chameleon during the campaign. He has also repeatedly hidden from us (I'm from Illinois, Obama's home state) while in the state legislature, by refusing to vote well more than 100 times on issues from abortion to gun control and more. He refused 5 direct questions on whether or not he favored a balanced budget. Mr. Obama is the scariest propostion of all -- a pig in a poke! Although I am an Independent, myself, and will support no candidate during the primary season, It's clear that from his start in public office through today, NO candidate has been as clear, consistent, and responsive to the electorate as John McCain. As for Joe Lieberman and Israel, get off it all you anti-Israel people Posting out there. It has been a consistent, but SMALL, part of Lieberman's public policy life for the entire time he has been in office. You are attempting to plant a Red-Herring here and blow it all out of proportion. You must be Dems trying to discredit a McCain supporter rather than look at the real record. Grow up and do what's best for the Country not for you Party, for a change.

  • Posted By: Cates @ 01/25/2008 10:25:41 AM

    Comment: Joe is not a Republican, Democrat or even American. He is a Jew with allegiance to the terrorist state of Israel. American???s need to wake up and smell the coffee. Zionist fascist are no better than Nazi fascist. We should be bombing Israel not sending them aid.

    Lieberman has put his religious interests before his countries. He is nothing short of a traitor.

  • Posted By: RTGO @ 01/25/2008 9:28:00 AM

    Comment: Bottom line, Joe Lieberman is looking out for the interest of Israel. Period! And as such he must have influence in both parties to ensure the issues that affect Israel are addressed. This political maneuver is well documented in the New Testament Bible. This is how the Jews leadership was able to send Jesus to the Cross. The Jewish leadership had a foot in Roman politics as well as in the Jewish politics and was adept at manipulating them both under the auspices of maintaining order and bipartisanship. Joe Lieberman is doing the same.

    What Joe Lieberman is doing is tantamount to treason. America expects their elected officials to look out for the interest of the USA not some other country even if they are an Allie

  • Posted By: garysgary @ 01/25/2008 9:10:28 AM

    Comment: Joe Lieberman is not a democrat or a republican. He is not even a patriot. He qualifies to be a member of the Likud party in Isreal. He gets up every day thinking..."what's best for Isreal?" Not everything that is good for Isreal is good for the U.S. Our interests are not always the same, but, Joe Lieberman will sacrifice what is good for us and do what is good for Isreal. His actions border on treason!

  • Posted By: jdcolv_pol @ 01/25/2008 9:01:18 AM

    Comment: It is clear that one of the main themes of the comments is Mr. Lieberman's support of Israel. Yet there is not a single insight about this issue in the article. Was Mr. Bartholet amazingly ignorant of this issue? Was he afraid to raise the issue? Or was there an agreeement prior to the interview not to raise the issue? Failure to raise this issue in the interview does a disservice to the readers as well as not allowing Mr. Liberman the opportunity to face the issue head on.

    Such failure does not speak well of the author of the article nor of the editors of Newsweek who ran the article without this essential element of Mr. Lieberman's persona. That is why after 40 some years, I decided not to renew my Newsweek subscription.

  • Posted By: kaneandabel @ 01/25/2008 6:08:18 AM

    Comment: All the things that he promised (in his usual crooked way) during his election in CN was just to win the election. He went opposite direction on most of those promises. This man speaks with forked - tongue. Beware.

  • Posted By: RealDemocrat @ 01/24/2008 11:47:36 PM

    Comment: "The Clintons backed Lamont in the Connecticut [general] election, as did your colleague Christopher Dodd. That must have had some personal impact. You wouldn't be human if it didn't.
    Sure it did. I do want to say in fairness that both the Clintons and Chris Dodd helped me in the primary. "

    Actually, it was Bill Clinton's campaigning for Lieberman before the primary that stopped the electoral bleeding and probably saved Lieberman's political career. After the primary, Hillary Clinton, and Barack Obama, did as little as possible to help Ned Lamont, and Bill Clinton repeatedly went out of his way to undermine Lamont's candidacy. Chuck Schumer, Clinton ally and then-head of the DSCC did nothing to help Lamont, and Clinton cat's-paw Rahm Emmanuel repeated Bill Clinton's talking points about Joe Lieberman being just as good a Democrat as Ned Lamont. The eternally self-serving Holy Joe, of course, is now paying them back by endorsing McCain. And the amazing thing is, the King and Queen of Triangulation have and will learned nothing from this.

  • Posted By: ozziedabear @ 01/24/2008 11:45:05 PM

    Comment: ps. and incidentally you really do look like a weasel.

  • Posted By: ozziedabear @ 01/24/2008 11:22:39 PM

    Comment: I think Lieberman is a political prostitute of the lowest order. He proved this when he ran for V.P. with Gore but insisted on keeping his safety net (he simultaneously ran for re-election to the senate). What is that... insurance? YOU WERE CAMPAIGNING TO BECOME LEADER OF THE FREE WORLD, NOT PLAYING BLACKJACK AT FOXWOODS YOU SELF-INTERESTED WEASEL!!! But imagine if he had become V.P. Who's more self-interested, him or Cheney?

  • Posted By: ozziedabear @ 01/24/2008 11:08:11 PM

    Comment: I see him as a political whore of the lowest order. That became so evident when he ran with Gore for V.P. but insisted on keeping his safety net (he stayed on the ballot in the Conn. Senate race). I saw that as particularly slimy. Nothing this guy does would surprise me. Could you imagine if he were the V.P.? Who's more self-interested, him or Cheney?

  • Posted By: tc125231 @ 01/24/2008 8:57:22 PM

    Comment: Lieberman is entitled to support who he wants. I am entitled to think he is a man who sees himself as principled, but who is basically untrustworthy. I would not buy a car from him, nor let him date my daughter.

  • Posted By: BLTN @ 01/24/2008 8:51:24 PM

    Comment: After being beaten in the 2006 Connecticut Democratic primary election, Lieberman
    received over $20 million from individual contributors who were not Connecticut
    residents. These funds enabled him to retain his Senate seat.

    This $20 million did not come from Wisconsin diary farmers or Detroit autoworkers. It came from proponents of the State of Israel throughout the U.S. who did not want to lose Israel's principal representative in the U.S. Senate or any of the billions in assistance the U.S. gives to that tiny county each year.

    Once reelected, Lieberman's main objective has been to try to help AIPAC and
    Israel achieve their goal of having their proxy, the United State of American, bomb Iran.
    Thanks to the recent release of the principle findings from the National Intelligence Estimate on Iran, this has not yet occurred.

    Obviously, Lieberman now thinks that his best hope for achieving this goal is to help get Sen. McCain elected as President. This desire on his part is reflective of the low regard he has for the American voter. It won't happen.

  • Posted By: akirudis @ 01/24/2008 8:23:06 PM

    Comment: Running as a Dem. V.P. maybe he was the real reason they lost the election. The voters saw him for what he really is.

  • Posted By: ffny68 @ 01/24/2008 8:13:01 PM

    Comment: Jumping Joe goes the way that's best for him. Turned ito a real skag.

  • Posted By: VICTOR @NJ @ 01/24/2008 7:30:20 PM

    Comment: SOON JOE LIEBERMAN WILL RUN OUT OF POLITICAL PARTY AFILITIALIONS AND MIGHT HAVE TO CREATE HIS OWN POLITICAL PARTY " THE OPORTUNISTS PARTY" hahahahha

    SAME AS GEORGE BUSH HE DOES NOT CARE ABOUT US, HE JUST WANTS TO REMAIN IN POWER AND FOR THAT HE WILL DO ANYTHING EVEN BETRAY HIS OWN POLITICAL CONSCIENCE IF HE HAS ONE.

    • Posted By: misterharban @ 01/24/2008 20:43:15

      Comment: It is partisans like you who will never understand the difference between betraying a political conscience and betraying a political party. Blind loyalty to political parties by both Dems and Reps has turned government and public discourse into stinking cesspool. Its great entertainment -- like looking at body parts on CSI -- but it debases every aspect of our day-to-day lives.

      • Posted By: Ready4Change @ 01/24/2008 21:25:01

        Comment: The pot calling the kettle... Listen: Lieberman has one and only one supreme interest at heart, and EVERYONE KNOWS exactly what that is - The security of the State of Israel, to the unjustified exclusion of what's best for the US and its citizens, irrespective of party. I am not now, and never have been against the Jewish religion, people, or citizens (of either country), but I (along with an exponentially expanding cadre of ordinary citizens) am FED UP with the PRO ZIONIST NEOCON bent ofthe few, trying to manipulate the many!

        • Posted By: misterharban @ 01/24/2008 21:55:06

          Comment: I know, I know, "some of my best friends are jews???but ???.". Listen, you can criticize pro-Zionist neocons all you want, but the truth is that if the Dems do not like our position with regard to supporting Israel they could, at the very least, speak out on the matter. Instead, they play both sides of the table by wringing their hands at the futility of our current policy in the middle east while ignoring the reality that so long as we are unequivocally committed to the continued existence of Israel that there will be no end to our military and economic involvement in that region. I, for one, am committed to the proposition that you clean up your messes no matter the cost. Our course was set, for better or worse, over half a century ago. Israel is, for all intents and purposes, our creation. It would be morally reprehensible to abandon them. This is not to say that abandonment might actually be the choice of most Americans or, at the very least of the Surrendercrats. It would be nice to think that there is a solution that lies somewhere between unqualified support for Israel and abandonment. That road is littered with meaningless Nobel prizes. Israel finds itself surrounded by countries which are absolutely sworn to its elimination. Let the neocons rant on. Perhaps the Dems could stop hiding behind ambiguity and let the world know whether they will stand by Israel or not. I???m sure Joe would like to know.

  • Posted By: faireelinor @ 01/24/2008 7:03:01 PM

    Comment: I feel very strongly that politicians are not elected to follow their own (so-called) consciences, but to represent the beliefs and ideals of their constituents. Sen. Lieberman chose to flout the antiwar sentiments of his constituency. That cost him the Democratic nomination. If he intends to back Sen. McCain in the primary season, and in the general election, then he should indeed abandon his pretense that he is concerned about partisanship and is trying to fight partisanship by crossing the aisle--because I sincerely doubt that McCain will be anything except a bitterly partisan candidate. He proved that to me when he laughed at the woman in South Carolina who referred to Sen. Clinton by an inexcusable epithet instead of telling her off for her foul manners. Lieberman is an apostate and an opportunist, pure and simple. After all, when he originally announced his endorsement of Sen. McCain, he said a mouthful: "None of the Democrats asked me." Why would they bother? They already know him for what he is.

  • Posted By: quetzl @ 01/24/2008 6:41:27 PM

    Comment: As independents, we are deeply appreciative that Senator Joe Lieberman places the well-being of our Nation uppermost in his thoughts and actions. It is unfortunate that some of those who post here would rather see the destruction of our country in order to spite and demean this man of integrity.

  • Posted By: captphealy @ 01/24/2008 6:23:44 PM

    Comment: Joe Lieberman is only interested in Joe Lieberman. That's not bipartisanship, it's political onanism.

  • Posted By: azgsdlvr @ 01/24/2008 6:20:59 PM

    Comment: Hooray for Joe Lieberman for being on the side of what's best for the US.

  • Posted By: underdog @ 01/24/2008 6:18:45 PM

    Comment: Vote your conscience instead of the party line and you get attacked. I believe we need more politicians like Joe and McCain. They vote what they feel is good for the country, not the party. And how do the parties treat them, like outcast.

  • Posted By: VICTOR @NJ @ 01/24/2008 6:18:37 PM

    Comment: Joe Liberman is showing his real colors , the colors of a real looser. He did not change his democratic registration not because he forgot, but because he was waiting for some of the democratic funt-runners to call him. I am glad that did NOT happen and he is now going to the other side after all he is nothing but a Bush rubber-stamp. He would have made us all look bad.

    I think he feels like if he is the only child left behind in the big Washington school of Hypocracy, eventhough he knows there are still some neo-cons struglling to keep their jobs in Washington, that is why he is trying to get inside the white house by backing McCain.

    If he is feeling remorse for his bad and past political decisions, I personally believe he should go to the " Lamentation wall" and repent for his disgreace.

  • Posted By: azgsdlvr @ 01/24/2008 6:18:16 PM

    Comment: Joe Lieberman is a politician who dares to do the right thing instead of listening to special interests or what "the party" wants. I applaud Joe Lieberman for standing up for what he believes, and probably what his constituents believe as well.

  • Posted By: kjb79 @ 01/24/2008 6:04:38 PM

    Comment: Why do we care?

  • Posted By: sy27295 @ 01/24/2008 6:04:03 PM

    Comment: Every American Should know the reason why we flew 15000 tanks accross oceans. The Marines think that they are protecting their sisters. My neighbors, who have no idea about how the internation oil markets work, we invaded a country because of Oil. My Friends have no idea. Administration will not tell, Congress will not ask about the "Reeeeeeeeeeeaaaal Motive". I guess, Lieberman knows....of course he does.
    Here it is:
    http://www.HumanGenome.org/iraq/reasons.mht

  • Posted By: sy27295 @ 01/24/2008 6:03:24 PM

    Comment: Every American Should know the reason why we flew 15000 tanks accross oceans. The Marines think that they are protecting their sisters. My neighbors, who have no idea about how the internation oil markets work, we invaded a country because of Oil. My Friends have no idea. Administration will not tell, Congress will not ask about the "Reeeeeeeeeeeaaaal Motive". I guess, Lieberman knows....of course he does.
    Here it is:
    http://www.HumanGenome.org/iraq/reasons.mht

  • Posted By: richardquinn @ 01/24/2008 5:48:30 PM

    Comment: "The Jewish Lobby"? Seriously? What kind of propagandized, ignorant hyperbole is that? Crack a paper once in a while - or better yet, stop relying on what just Newsweek and Daddy tell you - and you'll find the overwhelming majority of Israelis, and more important, Jews worldwide, want out of this kind of decades-long conflict. The only thing lower than Bush's approval rating is Olmert's. And as for your anti-Semitism: you should be ashamed of yourself.

    • Posted By: davidferdi @ 01/25/2008 11:51:34

      Comment: Playing the anti-semitism card??? it figures. most jews say that when people do not agree with them.I not anti-semite
      I AM ANTI- ZIONISM....get it!! I admire jewish culture, and people. I went to a jewish college, have jewish friends.whether you accept it or not, jews need the US ,until we are not a super power to be behind them in this middle east phenomenon

  • Posted By: davidferdi @ 01/24/2008 5:41:37 PM

    Comment: joe lieberman is is in the pockets of jewish lobby and neo-cons....keep america in the war with arabs so that isreal is not alone.

  • Posted By: psychnurse @ 01/24/2008 5:38:56 PM

    Comment: Lieberman is on the side of Lieberman. He remained a registered Democrat because he knew the odds favored the Democrats gaining power in 2008 and he had been promised a committee chair. He doesn't caucus with the Democrats. He uses them while he plays both sides of the Hill, working with whoever offers him the best deal. Its all about what they'll do for him. It's not independence--it's politics as usual. And if McCain offers him the VP spot in exchange for his switch to the GOP, he'll do so without missing a heartbeat or a snicker.

  • Posted By: babbles @ 01/24/2008 5:35:59 PM

    Comment: Joe Lieberman is Republican, Democrat , and Independent for the United States of Israel.

  • Posted By: babbles @ 01/24/2008 5:34:57 PM

    Comment: Joe Lieberman is a Republican, Democrat, and an Independent for the United States of Israel.

  • Posted By: maycee @ 01/24/2008 5:31:53 PM

    Comment: Joe Lieberman finds himself alone and without allies not because he is principled man but rather because he is dishonest. He claims he is a Democrat yet votes and supports Republicans, where I come from that is called conniving and duplicitous. He reminds me of the husband who after caught cheating on his wife asks for her forgiveness and understanding, he deserves neither. Joe Lieberman is getting what he deserves, distrust of his former colleagues and suspicion from his new ones, and I have no sympathy for his predicament.

  • Posted By: CAMPY @ 01/24/2008 5:30:26 PM

    Comment: LIEBERMAN IS NOT AN ASSET TO MCCAIN OR ANY ONE ELSE. HE IS NOTHING IN POLITICS AS FAR AS BOTH DEMOCRATS OR REPUBLICANS ARE CONCERNED. MOST AMERICANS ARE AGAINST THE IRAQ WAR SO MCCAIN IS GOING TO FLOP ON HIS FACE OVER THAT. THE RICH MAN'S WAR IS TOO COSTLY FOR THE AMERICANS.........IT COST TOO MUCH AMERICAN BLOOD.

  • Posted By: freedomrules @ 01/24/2008 5:21:12 PM

    Comment: I can understand loyalty to a friend, and support for a position on Iraq, but Iraq is not the biggest issue the next president will face. Iraq was a mistkae in the first place, the aftermath was botched; but, eventually, Iraq will go away. The economy, the environment, Roe v. Wade, equal rights for ALL Americans (gay and straight) are all much greater, core, quality-of-life issues. Apparently, Mr. Leiberman can;t see beyond the Middle East to recognize that the assault on freedom, the constitution -- our very way of life -- comes not from a fanatical band of Islamofacists, but from a fanatical band of religious conservatives in this country. We are being subverted from within by those who would insist we all live by THEIR moral compass. That's not freedom, folks, it's repression and a facism all its own.

  • Posted By: diamond32853 @ 01/24/2008 5:18:00 PM

    Comment: Joe Lieberman is a voice of reason. His views represent a large majority of people who have traditionally been affiliated with one of the major political parties. There should be no litmus test, no one way to view issues, no blanket support for one party or candidate. Senator Lieberman's statements represent the views of a mature leader. Just think how it would be if all candidates were trying to bring people together like Joe?

  • Posted By: markus1976 @ 01/24/2008 5:05:57 PM

    Comment: congrats, jsrider- you just posted perhaps the dumbest thing I've read all week (no small feat- you had plenty of competition).

  • Posted By: markus1976 @ 01/24/2008 5:04:36 PM

    Comment: I respect his independent stance. I hope he understands that the reason so many Democrats have broken with him is because of his position on a VERY important issue- Iraq. How you can support the war and maintain a place in a party that so overwhelmingly is against the war is beyond me.
    This is NOT a minor difference...

  • Posted By: jsrider @ 01/24/2008 5:04:34 PM

    Comment: Lieberman isn't on the side of the Democrats, isn't on the side of the Republicans, isn't on the side of America ... Lieberman is loyal to only one thing ... Israel.

  • Posted By: jncc1701 @ 01/24/2008 5:04:03 PM

    Comment: "Well, I never want to say never. But I hope that I'm never in a position where I feel so frustrated and marginalized in the Democratic Party, particularly on foreign policy, that I feel forced to leave the party. I hope that never happens."

    I can't think of a better reason to give the Democrats a sufficient majority in Congress so we can kick this ______ back to CT he has Reid (who is no brain surgeon to start with) by the nose and he knows it.

    And when did preemptive war become part of any progressive democrat foreign policy?

    the source of this insane partianship is the Republicans and Bush but Lieberman is too blind by his own ambitions and "hurt feelings" to see this.

  • Posted By: jsrider @ 01/24/2008 5:02:55 PM

    Comment: Lieberman isn't on the side of the Democrats, isn't on the side of the Republicans, isn't on the side of America - he is only loyal to one thing ... Israel.

  • Posted By: Arjuna9 @ 01/24/2008 5:01:31 PM

    Comment: The Bush administration lied ( I repeat LIED ! ) to us to get us to go to war in Iraq. Anyone who supports that extremely bloody aggression on a country that was no threat to us is an enemy of peace, and really, a war criminal. That includes both Lieberman and McCain.

  • Posted By: Mortimer @ 01/24/2008 4:59:23 PM

    Comment: What a piece of ***, someone should take him out to the dumpster where "***", belongs!! The End.....

    • Posted By: quetzl @ 01/24/2008 19:04:33

      Comment: Mortimer? ....as the given name to dummy Mortimer Snerd, wooden hand puppet of Edgar Bergen? At least Mr. Snerd could express himself cleverly without showing the profound level of ignorance, vulgarity, and baseline stupidity demonstrated by Mortimer of 01/24/2008

    • Posted By: Cal_Culus @ 01/24/2008 17:13:21

      Comment: Mortimer, you are just too much of an intellectual to comment on! Your statement is powerful and full of intellectual content! I am so impressed!

  • Posted By: Charlie E. @ 01/24/2008 4:58:20 PM

    Comment: Without regard to his policy positions and past performance in the Senate - Mr. Lieberman won his general election, after losing the primary, by re-styling himself an Independent. Now that he's re-elected, poof! He's a Democrat again (registered). This is outrageous; what he did was probably illegal and certainly unethical. But Connecticut folks deserve him, because they let him get away with it.

  • Posted By: Arjuna9 @ 01/24/2008 4:57:06 PM

    Comment: a

  • Posted By: cpogordon @ 01/24/2008 4:56:07 PM

    Comment: It's about time we get some real patriots in office instead of the usual partisan hacks.

  • Posted By: Charlie E. @ 01/24/2008 4:53:54 PM

    Comment: Mr. Lieberman says he's a registered Democrat, although he got re-elected by running as an Independent, after losing to another Democrat in the Connecticut primary. Now that he's in office again, poof! He's back to being a Democrat. I think his staying in the race to the general election, when he lost the primary, was probably illegal and certainly unethical.

    • Posted By: Victor Lebanon @ 01/24/2008 20:33:40

      Comment: I think what is telling is that he won the seat despite being dropped by his party. What that tells me is that the majority of the population A) In the middle and B) Not feeling represented by the Republicans or the Democrats.

    • Posted By: Cal_Culus @ 01/24/2008 17:12:00

      Comment: Since when is it unethical to be honest? The Democratic Party 'left' him not the other way around. It's interesting too that McCain has done an about face with the Republicans. Seems as though it is more of a football game to some of you. I want my side to win no matter what the cause . . . it's Democrats against Republicans. Seems this way on everything . . . we're not Americans we're all hyphenated Americans saying Hurray for 'our side'! You want change like Obama seems to suggest, (doubt it!), but when you actually see it implemented you complain and cry 'Hypocrite' . . . sounds like the Pot calling the Kettle black!

  • Posted By: dbanana2 @ 01/24/2008 4:48:16 PM

    Comment: Joseph Lieberman is not even worth discussing.
    Diana

  • Posted By: sta2008 @ 01/24/2008 4:44:37 PM

    Comment: It's quite simple: the hawkish wing of both jewish-american and israeli electorate believes the neocon-inspired "preemption" policy to be the best course ahead for Israel. Lieberman is just a representative for this group. Nothing wrong with his option, even if this makes him a republican instead of a democrat. The only troubling thing is the hypocrisy that prevents him from openely discussing how important his ethnic interests are for him.

  • Posted By: undecided @ 01/24/2008 4:44:23 PM

    Comment: liberman... that junk who supported the iraq war and thus screwed up the econonmy. if he is in the ticket as vice president with Mccain, Mccain will sink. Mcacin did not forget on what happened to Al Gore in 2000. This oppurtunist needs to be boycotted...

  • Posted By: RealLiberal @ 01/24/2008 4:43:29 PM

    Comment: Hey Liberal29, barblze and uuforyou;
    Unfortunately, you folks are no longer Liberals, despite the name Liberal29. You are just people who bury your heads in the sand on geopolitical and economic issues and, if anything, will side with the nation's enemies in a time of war. You have no idea what Islamofascism is and you have no ability to call anyone an enemy unless he is a conservative. During the Communist era, your wing of the Democrat parti was AWSOL in the fight against totalitarianism. That is why you will never understand a true Liberal like Joe. Because Joe is strong and Liberalism, for you, is a celebration of weakness and cultural self loathing. You are Leftists and just like the Communist sympathizers that you were during the Cold war, now you are Islamofascist sympathizers

  • Posted By: undecided @ 01/24/2008 4:41:39 PM

    Comment: lie-ber-man want to be a vice president. these people are soo greedy.. can do anything to get into power....

  • Posted By: PoofsnIndy @ 01/24/2008 4:39:55 PM

    Comment: Joe Lieberman is a true American. He is an example of what we are to do be,,,INDEPENDENT thinkers, people who don't follow blindly but analyze information and decide what is right or wrong. And he votes or speaks out accordingly. This is not the late 1800s or early 1900's were people did what the party machine told them to do. And those people were rewarded or paid for following orders. You can't buy him, thank God!

  • Posted By: Liberal29 @ 01/24/2008 4:24:21 PM

    Comment: Lieberman is a skunk of the smelliest sort. He has become the modern equivalent of Zell Miller. I'll never vote for him on any ticket.

  • Posted By: Beathan @ 01/24/2008 4:11:33 PM

    Comment: Wow -- I am a lifelong Democrat who has never voted Republican, but a McCain/Lieberman ticket would change that -- especially if Hillary Clinton is the Democratic candidate.

  • Posted By: Beathan @ 01/24/2008 4:10:23 PM

    Comment: Wow -- although I am a lifelong Democrat who has never voted for a Republican in a Presidential race, if Lieberman is VP candidate to McCain, I would probably vote for the ticket. I certainly would vote for McCain Lieberman over any ticket that includes Hillary Clinton.

  • Posted By: Beathan @ 01/24/2008 4:09:41 PM

    Comment: Wow -- although I am a lifelong Democrat who has never voted for a Republican in a Presidential race, if Lieberman is VP candidate to McCain, I would probably vote for the ticket. I certainly would vote for McCain Lieberman over any ticket that includes Hillary Clinton.

  • Posted By: AH1986 @ 01/24/2008 4:09:12 PM

    Comment: Finally someone who isn't afraid to cross the party dicide. I think he makes a valid point in his argument for backing McCain, in the fact that the parties are so removed from one another that they have set aside the voice of the people for their own agenda's. As far as that comment from uuforyou.......The calling him a traiter, shouting out cries of "benedict arnold", and ignorant ridocule, all I can say is go back to school and study about why we have various parties in the first place. I can tell you now that it wasn't to segregate america and its elected spokesmen, but rather to provide different viewpoints on different subjects to keep things in perspective during the legislative process. Like I've said before...........ignorance is the poison of the mind, and education/ reason is the antidote.

    • Posted By: jncc1701 @ 01/24/2008 17:16:32

      Comment: Are we talking about the same thing? Independence is a good thing - but is McCain really independent? He is singing the praises of Bush's failed foreign policy - then he will want spending cuts to pay for this folly, like any good Republican he will do so on the backs of the Middle class. If you think Bush's policies need to be continues for another 4 years vote for McCain/Lieberman

      • Posted By: Victor Lebanon @ 01/24/2008 20:40:28

        Comment: With all due respect, McCain was a better candidate than Bush 8 years ago and had he been running the country during that time period my guess is that the country would be in far, far better shape than it is right now. Bush has been mediocre at everything he has ever attempted to do. McCain, while not perfect, would have outperformed Bush with energy to spare.

  • Posted By: AH1986 @ 01/24/2008 4:08:49 PM

    Comment: Finally someone who isn't afraid to cross the party dicide. I think he makes a valid point in his argument for backing McCain, in the fact that the parties are so removed from one another that they have set aside the voice of the people for their own agenda's. As far as that comment from uuforyou.......The calling him a traiter, shouting out cries of "benedict arnold", and ignorant ridocule, all I can say is go back to school and study about why we have various parties in the first place. I can tell you now that it wasn't to segregate america and its elected spokesmen, but rather to provide different viewpoints on different subjects to keep things in perspective during the legislative process. Like I've said before...........ignorance is the poison of the mind, and education/ reason is the antidote.

  • Posted By: barblze @ 01/24/2008 3:07:44 PM

    Comment: Lieberman is now a republican so why does he not officially change parties? He is officially dead as a democrat.

  • Posted By: uuforyou @ 01/24/2008 2:08:56 PM

    Comment: Lieberman = traitor!
    If McCheney picks Lieberman, they'll be
    "The grumpy, disgrunteled more of the same old men ticket"

    • Posted By: Victor Lebanon @ 01/24/2008 20:37:30

      Comment: On the contrary. They'll be the free-thinking, not-bound-by-partisan-politics ticket unlike you and most of the people on this board who are so married to your parties that you can't see beyond the piece of paper that your supposed stances are written on to see that sometimes a middle ground is what is best for the country. I would love to see a McCain-Lieberman ticket.

      • Posted By: ozziedabear @ 01/24/2008 23:24:56

        Comment: It won't happen.

 
 
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