The Morning After

When a little education combines with a lot of blissful ignorance there's alway trouble. It's difficult to believe it wasn't this womans intention to totally and completely destroy Shaw-Fox starting with the first little private gathering. She can alabi it with innocent intentions, but it was clearly a gathering of the she-wolf pack with intent to do harm of some type. Did Shaw-Fox do this and deserve this? Now we'll never know because it got snatched from the hands of rational law enforcement and mishandled badly. This girl -- and she is certainly a girl and not a mature woman -- should worry about more than a little libel suit, like whether she'll be the next campus scapegoat. And maybe rightfully so...

In a few weeks we will make a choice that will decide our future.
I follow an economist named Bob Proctor. He has called the top and bottom of every market crash since the 70s correctly.
Also, he perfectly predicted the current real estate market meltdown and the picture he paints about what will happen in the next couple years
is terrifying.He thinks it will be worse then the great depression.
The banks in the U.S. are going under one after the other. Countrywide ,Bear Stearns, Lehman Brothers and Merrill Lynch , Fanny and Freddy Mae ,AIG
The government took them over because they are essentially bankrupt. Even with the goverment nationalizing hundreds of billions of dollars in debt the stock market is crashing
the credit markets are frozen and all of us may suffer beyond anything in the last 80 years.
McCain just like Bush " doesn't understand the economy".
That not just my opinion its his own words. Not only does he not understand how to fix it but he does not understand exactly what is broken.
It is no surprise that he doesn't. The people that make up these securities use complex mathematical models very few people understand.
Bush and McCain both can take the credit for this mess since they helped deregulate the laws that were protecting us.
Bush's economic advisor Phil Graham wrote the deregulation bill that allowed banks to take huge risks with all of our future.
Now, Phil Graham is the head of McCain's economic policy.He is also McCain's choice for the next secretary of the treasury.
No one in this country can afford for that to happen. The last time Bush met with his economic advisors was in March. He didnt realize that anything was wrong. Phil Graham had the guts to say that we are in a mental recession after he helped create the worst economy meltdown in our lifetime. Check out this link to the truth http://my.barackobama.com/keatingvideo
It will take the best and brightest minds in the world to get us out of this nightmare. As bad as Bush has done, McCain would be
even more destructive because things are in much worse shape. The next president will not inherit a surplus like Bush did but a crashing economy and a 11,600,000,000,000 (trillion) dollars deficit. Most of it Bush created and it will take decades to pay it back.
If you do what you have always done then you will get what you have always got.
When it comes to policy Bush and McCain are the same 90 percent of the time.
So why are the polls even close then ?
Mccains team just said they no longer want to talk about the economy.Instead they would like to spend time talking about obama
which means running the biggest smear campaign in history.
They think they can just tell you lies and you wont be smart enough to see through it
Let's teach him we are smarter than that .
Elect Obama Biden 2008


Check out this video of sarah palins interview and ask your self if she understands what she is talking about.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r36Xc0GG4iQ

In a few weeks we will make a choice that will decide our future.
I follow an economist named Bob Proctor. He has called the top and bottom of every market crash since the 70s correctly.
Also, he perfectly predicted the current real estate market meltdown and the picture he paints about what will happen in the next couple years
is terrifying.He thinks it will be worse then the great depression.
The banks in the U.S. are going under one after the other. Countrywide ,Bear Stearns, Lehman Brothers and Merrill Lynch , Fanny and Freddy Mae ,AIG
The government took them over because they are essentially bankrupt. Even with the goverment nationalizing hundreds of billions of dollars in debt the stock market is crashing
the credit markets are frozen and all of us may suffer beyond anything in the last 80 years.
McCain just like Bush " doesn't understand the economy".
That not just my opinion its his own words. Not only does he not understand how to fix it but he does not understand exactly what is broken.
It is no surprise that he doesn't. The people that make up these securities use complex mathematical models very few people understand.
Bush and McCain both can take the credit for this mess since they helped deregulate the laws that were protecting us.
Bush's economic advisor Phil Graham wrote the deregulation bill that allowed banks to take huge risks with all of our future.
Now, Phil Graham is the head of McCain's economic policy.He is also McCain's choice for the next secretary of the treasury.
No one in this country can afford for that to happen. The last time Bush met with his economic advisors was in March. He didnt realize that anything was wrong. Phil Graham had the guts to say that we are in a mental recession after he helped create the worst economy meltdown in our lifetime. Check out this link to the truth http://my.barackobama.com/keatingvideo
It will take the best and brightest minds in the world to get us out of this nightmare. As bad as Bush has done, McCain would be
even more destructive because things are in much worse shape. The next president will not inherit a surplus like Bush did but a crashing economy and a 11,600,000,000,000 (trillion) dollars deficit. Most of it Bush created and it will take decades to pay it back.
If you do what you have always done then you will get what you have always got.
When it comes to policy Bush and McCain are the same 90 percent of the time.
So why are the polls even close then ?
Mccains team just said they no longer want to talk about the economy.Instead they would like to spend time talking about obama
which means running the biggest smear campaign in history.
They think they can just tell you lies and you wont be smart enough to see through it
Let's teach him we are smarter than that .
Elect Obama Biden 2008


Check out this video of sarah palins interview and ask your self if she understands what she is talking about.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r36Xc0GG4iQ

I am a male in my early 60's. Even in my college days I understood that a "no" at any time meant stop. There has been this sexist attitude by many men that once they start, they are unable to stop; that a woman is a "tease" or worse if she changes her mind. On the other hand, great damage can be done by reacting to rumor or innuendo by punishing remarks on social networking sites.

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@Samael-Wolf: If I make a choice and five minutes later I am being hit, choked, sworn at and gagged, I am then not allowed to "CHANGE HORSES IN MID STREAM"?!? I must simply accept my fate because I "initiated"? You're wondering "what kind of person initiates sex then changes her mind"???? The tell-tale language you use -- "what KIND of person", you say -- tells us everything about what "kind" of person you are: a sexist, violence-condoning, chauvanistic, pigeon-holing, nasty little excuse for a real man with a brain and one iota of compassion in his body. How dare you judge a girl who's been the victim of another jerk like you? How about YOU get sober and grow up, kiddie-- oh wait, it's too late -- you can't change personalities in mid stream.

Think about the person(s) that posted the Saw-Fox rape on Facebook. Should they have or have not posted the situattion? The internet is fast and used everyday by millions of people,and if you think that posting about rape is not going to get big, then you are flat down an idiot. There are alternitives to getting information around. For example, you could have a secret meeting with all the girls you want to tell and keep it inside the circle. They should have (while creating the post) thought about how big this could get and possibly the damage it was going to do. It's the internet; everybody can approach it and anybody can spread it.

I'm wondering what kind of person initiates sex then changes her mind while having sex ? Alcohol removes inhibitions , sure , but the personality remains. I believe this to be more of a day after revelation , the day when one has a hangover and says to themselves ," What the f**k did I do last night ?". Get sober and grow up kiddies, you cant change horses in mid stream.

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I'm wondering what kind of person initiates sex then changes their mind while in the act ?

Candy is dandy, but liquor is quicker - so James Thurber once wrote. Unfortunately, liquor in this case made everything worse. Shaw-Fox made a number of careless errors from inviting a coed to his room, to drinking, and he probably should have "just said no." His experience serves as a warning for young men everywhere. Discretion is really a wise idea. And if you absolutely must, before you start - make sure you make her sign a requistion form with 4 copies: one for you, one for her, one for your lawyer, and one for her lawyer.

Legally, someone inebriated cannot give consent. Hunter initiated sexual activity with a drunk man, incapable of giving consent.
Make of it what you will.

Hey everyone, let's imagine that this girl was our sister or mother. Now let's imagine that the guy was our brother or father. Get it? People in our country could stand to learn the word SYMPATHY. Leave your prejudices and biases in your overstuffed closet with the rest of the baggage. Personally, it sounds like date rape to me. If a girl told me to stop, I would be offended and jump out of bed like it was on fire.

Hey everyone, let's imagine that this girl was our sister or mother. Now let's imagine that the guy was our brother or father. Get it? People in our country could stand to learn the word SYMPATHY. Leave your prejudices and biases in your overstuffed closet with the rest of the baggage. Personally, it sounds like date rape to me. If a girl told me to stop, I would be offended and jump out of bed like it was on fire.

They posted of information not proven to be true posted for all to see about someone clearly stating that they are guilty of doing committing a crime. Without the "alleged criminal" ever being arrested, presented before a judge and jury or convicted. They were his judge and jury. If he is guilty of rape, the woman should have went to the authorities. I no longer know whom to believe anymore. The Duke case and cases like Peterson(s) have taught me to wait until I have ALL OF THE FACTS and NOT JUST GO BY THE FIRST FEW DAYS OR MONTHS OF EITHER ONE IS SAYING. But with the latter being said, the women who posted the information should be sued. They are no different than than the Dick Cheney and his use of wiretapping. Our constitutional rights should and must be protected at all cost. We are all innocent until proven guilty in a court of law guided by a judge with a jury rendering a verdict--not a group of young women in dorm room with a laptop computer networking with others.

The same people who cavalierly defend people???s rights to trash reputations on line without recourse, the same people who cheer at universities and other public entities for taking action against people who must be presumed innocent without evidence when the alleged crime is a politically correct crime, are largely the same people who would hold our government to the very highest possible standard with respect to obtaining evidence in other crimes i.e. wiretapping people???s telephones and with respect to due process issues in crimes which are not on their politically correct agendas. I can certainly agree that we should absolutely work to ensure that no one???s rights to privacy, rights to a presumption of innocence or other due process rights are violated. I find it repulsive that the same kind of liberal thinking that can be so absolute with respect to these protections in some cases can be so blind to the application of the same principles when the cases touch upon their particular sensibility.

It is clear that many people believe that it is important to have their privacy, their innocence and their due process rights respected. In the end it really matters little if we lose those rights to an out of control Dick Cheney or to bands of vigilantes who believe so little in the value of those rights that they put on their masks and capes and accomplish in anonymity what no one would dare to do in the light of day. Either way the outcome is the same. We all lose.