Why are we as a nation even considering bringing back the dysfunctional Clintons?? These two, and their institutional democratic supporters display the worst aspect of politics; say anything, whether true or not, to make a point, win the arguement, strike an emotional chord. Do we have such a short memory?? We need to look to the future and not to the past,,, this is boiling down to a fight over control of the democratic party and in turn our country for solely personal reasons.
Cheap Shots, But Valuable?
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Posted By: payattention @ 01/27/2008 8:23:22 AM
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Posted By: rfelic3 @ 01/27/2008 5:35:56 AM
Do you really think Americans like this type of verbal bantering? Mr Obama provides a clearer and cleaner message for the country. In the last two weeks all I heard from Ms Clinton is what I have to fear if I elect Obama. I believe you are wrong in your view - Hillary will not have to worry about November's fights - she and Billie will be sitting on the sidelines trying to figure out why their dance card was taken away. Can'y wait for Feb 6th - when Bill is given his marching orders - disappear Bill, just disappear.
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Posted By: WisconsinGAL @ 01/27/2008 4:28:31 AM
Vote people into office now because of their name..wait it has been Bush, Clinton, Bush...STOP!!!! Does that qualify them to be Commander in Chief? "Politics as usual"? I'm sick of it.. I want my President to be a person of integrity. Barack Obama is this person I believe. I support him 100%. We need a "United States of America", not a "Divided States of America".
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Posted By: eddiewhere @ 01/27/2008 4:13:41 AM
CAN AMERICA RISE Up and defeat Hillary's Super delegates. It's up to the Lationo's. What has happened in Florida and Michigan on the Democratic side is a disaster. There should be a law that forces each party to settle any disputes before the primaries and caucuses. This has been a world wide EMBARRASSMENT to the OUR AMERICAN political process. If the democrats loose the upcoming election because of MICHIGAN AND FLORIDA then it would be a travesty. GORE AND KENNEDY are the only ones that can give OBAMA the edge he needs. CAROLINE which is a very good jude of character has endorsed OBAMA hopefully her Uncle will Follow in her young footsteps. OBAMA would need EDWARD's DELEGATES to DEFEAT HILLARY IN THE END. IT IS THOSE CRAZY super delegates that is willing HILLARY TO VICTORY.
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Posted By: eddiewhere @ 01/27/2008 3:53:33 AM
OBAMA needs to remind Bill CLinton Who he is. This is the problem with the Clintons they are not guided by principles, they make decisions based on what 's best for them politically. They have played the race card, which is against their principles, but yet they went ahead and did it. That means they do not have confidence in their so called substantive plans. Hillary went against her principles and tried to cover up what Bill DID. This is why the Clinton are not entitlied to the WHITE HOUSE. THey have brought a lot of pain to the political process and I am shocked how quick people can sell their soul. If Bill only did it once then it is understandable, but he did it everyday for decades and HIllary knew but kept herself in denial. Obama needs to attack the Clintons with their own words because what they are doing is worrie me>> Here is an example
of How OBAMA can flip the race card back onto the CLINTON"S.
THE Clintons are ambivalent about America'ss role in the world, this was clearly highlighted after September 11, when CLINTON in a speech at Gerogetown University suggested that America actually bore some responsibility for the attacks on itself. In November 2001, even as the new Bush administration was launching America's military response, the former president made a speech at Georgetown University in which he admonished citizens who were descended "from various European lineages" that they were "not blameless," and that America's past involvement in slavery should humble them as they confronted their attackers. Characteristically the President took no responsibility for his own failure to protect Americans from the attacks.
OBAMA TAKE MY ADVICE, YOU HAVE TO FIGHT
The same entities run both parties. CLINTON use to be what OBAMA stood for. NOW Hillary and Bill are the establishment and are now using words like slum, and insinuating that OBAMA is black and playing to the white vote. WHITE voters recognize this flip flop, this is why white men have not come out and vote for Hillary.
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Posted By: friendc @ 01/26/2008 12:22:57 PM
"Slept her way to experience". Are you kidding? Surely every intelligent, educated, hard working woman must have slept her way into a position of power. Obama's relationship with Tony Rezko is far more involved than the 5 billiable hours that he is admitting to. Rezko has raised hundreds of thousands of dollars for Obama, most of it has not been returned. Obama's residence in IL was purchased for $300,000.00 below market value from who other than Tony Rezko. Where there is smoke there is usually fire.
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Posted By: danielgouldman @ 01/26/2008 12:57:18 PM
This is a lie. Go to factcheck.org. I know a liar when I see one....if you want to talk about ethics - why not talk about Norman Hsu who is currently indicted on fraud charges who raised literally over $800,000 for Clinton. This guy Rezko gave him like $80,000 over the course of his career and the Chicago tribune has really investigated this 100%...and there has not been a quid pro quo relationship. It sounds like this guy Rezko is a bad guy but know the facts....don't just spread Clintonian lies. And make no mistake - that's what you're doing.
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Posted By: Morrisen @ 01/27/2008 1:30:10 AM
sleaze politics clinton vs obama
http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_allen_l__080126_a_study_in_relative_.htm
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Posted By: nizhoniboy @ 01/26/2008 9:18:54 PM
YES WE CAN!!! Praise the Lord for the Blessed!
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Posted By: Barracuda0224 @ 01/26/2008 9:07:05 PM
The Clintons should be careful that Bill's attacks don't backfire on Hillary. It's natural and expected that a spouse should support the other's campaign, but Hillary is using her husband as an attack dog and taking advantage of his so-called Presidential credibility, therefore Obama's remark that he isn't quite sure who he's running against sometimes. Presidential credibility? You mean his Monica Lewinsky, Whitewater credibility?
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Posted By: 3L3R1G @ 01/26/2008 8:17:57 PM
Imagine...
???if you???ve ever watched infants of different races playing with each other, you would notice that they are totally oblivious to the differences of race although the adults are.
As these children mature through their adolescent years, they dream of what they might become because all they have for the moment are their dreams. Parents, and other caring adult figures, listen intently in the hope that they will one day be able to realize their dreams.
Some of these children go on to college, graduate, and with a diploma and little to no experience, set out to realize their dreams. Most understanding that experience comes with opportunity.
These hopers and dreamers too often encounter people who figuratively take their hopes and dreams, put them in a glass bottle, and crush them with the weight of today???s realities. They never get a chance to live out their dreams, change their world, and make things better for their children. Unfortunately, they only inherit the world of those who came before them, dirty politics and all.
...a dream deferred...
It appears younger voters are saying A Dream Deferred No Longer!
...you may say that I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one... (John Lennon)
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Posted By: agent-of-truth @ 01/26/2008 7:43:25 PM
You show your gross ignorance about the Rezko affair in your superficial and shallow comments. Here's a recent editorial from Obama's hometown paper The Chicago Tribune. Do some more research befor eyou put your foot in mouth again!
If you look closely, it's plain: Rezko is Obama's problem
January 27, 2008
John Kass
"If there were a good gotcha photo of Bill and Hillary and Rezko, they'd be in the back yard of a dream house that Rezko helped them buy in a shady deal, Bill passing a PBR longneck through the wrought iron fence in the evening.
They'd laugh, the three of them, Bill biting his lip, twinkly, Hillary with that sharp-eyed laugh, and Rezko, calm, the beer cold, condensation beading, some steaks burning on the patio grill, fireflies, night crickets, good times.
That would be a gotcha photo, but it doesn't exist. Rezko belongs to Obama. "
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Posted By: Sloane @ 01/26/2008 7:17:47 PM
Sounds like while male voters are split between Obama and the Clintons so this isn't the meaningless racial win the Clintons are trying to make it. Is there a "Bill-cam" showing him stomping, spitting and turning red?
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Posted By: Sloane @ 01/26/2008 7:08:19 PM
Barack Obama continues to strongly succeed with young and educated voters! The Democratic Party is changing!!! He's looking successful with almost 50% of the younger voters! I am so excited about a new, more global Democratic Party!
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Posted By: ericrsiny @ 01/25/2008 7:06:50 PM
Obama hit first and Hillary hit back with Rezko. Perhaps she knew that he was not being as open and forthright with Rezko as he should be? ABCNews has more today:
"Months after reporters started asking Sen. Barack Obama to account for contributions raised by longtime friend and donor Antoin "Tony" Rezko, questions remain about the full extent of the accused Illinois political fixer's role as a patron of Obama's political career.
"We have returned any money that we know was associated to Mr. Rezko," Obama told Diane Sawyer on Wednesday morning during an appearance on "Good Morning America." "That is something that if there's additional information we don't know about, we'd be happy to return the money."
The Obama campaign says it has given away more than $85,000 in Rezko-linked contributions since Rezko was indicted on federal fraud and extortion charges in the fall of 2006.
An ABCNews.com review, however, has identified an additional $100,000 in contributions made to Obama from Rezko's associates that have not been returned, including $19,500 in contributions from Rezko's wife and employees of Rezko's business enterprises. The ABCNews.com review includes individuals who have been linked to Rezko in news reports, court documents and public records. "
http://abcnews.go.com/print?id=4192358-
Posted By: Deanne886@comcast.net @ 01/25/2008 10:13:16 PM
I'm Sadl to see Eleanor tear the Clinton's down when she knows in her heart that Hillary is the most competent,knowledgeable person the Dems could elect at this critical and dangerous time in America's history.
Everyone should stop the negative and say hopes and dreams are fine but we need action,and strength in Leadership to clean this MESS up and move our country forward on day one.Please support Senator Clinton with your vote!!!-
Posted By: dranfu @ 01/26/2008 6:51:15 PM
Excuse me ignorant voter, but Rezko is a long time Democratic contributor who has known the Clinton's much longer than Obama.
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Posted By: wcamacho @ 01/25/2008 11:43:59 PM
In one simple word: "NEVER"
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Posted By: eeave @ 01/26/2008 1:40:27 PM
I agree with Deanne886. By mounting the UnHillary (OBAMA), the Dems have basically lost the presidential race. They should have supported the experienced candidate, with senior credentials, and a track record that can't be refuted (the 1990s -- even though we all know she's not responsible for it, but she was part of that team that produced it).
Now, we've lost the presidency -- again. And a Clinton-Obama ticket will look weak to the 40% of independents who swing either way, depending on who they think looks like a "winner." CNN just did a piece about who is out-oppressing whom, between Clinton, Obama. The Dems needed to go into this race, like winners, who supported Senator Clinton, who has a far better chance in a general election than a state senator from Illinois who just uses words like "optimism" and "promise" and "hope" because those are words that poll well.
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Posted By: Cooney in SC @ 01/26/2008 5:30:48 PM
Pretending that race is not an issue is denying reality. I am glad that the elephant in the room has finally been acknowleged. There are cultural differences and blacks have been encouraged to embrace their blackness, while whites have been discouraged from doing the same. Just as all of the black people that I work with here in SC have made it plain that Obama is their candidate, I have decided that he cannot be mine.
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Posted By: OnionGum @ 01/26/2008 5:23:43 PM
I've had it with the Clintons. I heard that they wanted to hire that SocGen trader as their new finance campaign manager.
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Posted By: mnjam @ 01/26/2008 5:03:38 PM
Boomer pols are competitive. Bush has wrecked the Republican Party, fracturing its coalition and discrediting it with independents. Now the Clintons are doing the same to the Dems in their effort to succeed and show up Bush. A Republican victory is in sight. They nominate their least polarizing candidate, McCain, to run against the most polarizing Dem, HRC. He wins Pennsylvania. Finis.
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Posted By: mnjam @ 01/26/2008 5:01:51 PM
These boomer pols are competitive, especially Bush and Clintons. Now that Bush has wrecked the Republican Party, fracturing its coaliton and discrediting it with independents, the Clintons are determined to prove that they can do the same with the Dems. A Republican victory is now in sight. Their least polarizing candidate, McCain, against the most polarizing Dem, HRC. He wins Pennsylvania. End of story.
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Posted By: mnjam @ 01/26/2008 5:01:16 PM
These boomer pols are competitive, especially Bush and Clintons. Now that Bush has wrecked the Republican Party, fracturing its coaliton and discrediting it with independents, the Clintons are determined to prove that they can do the same with the Dems. A Republican victory is now in sight. Their least polarizing candidate, McCain, against the most polarizing Dem, HRC. He wins Pennsylvania. End of story.
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Posted By: dranfu @ 01/26/2008 4:55:57 PM
If one candidate is trying to scare you, and the other's trying to get you to think; if one is appealing to your fears, and the other is appealing to your hopes - it seems to me you ought to vote for the person who wants you to think and hope." ??? Bill Clinton 10/26/2004
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Posted By: middleman @ 01/26/2008 6:36:40 AM
Greetings, Democrats. Independent here who voted for Bill twice. For all of you who think the Team Clinton brand of politics is a good thing for your party, there is no way I will vote for or encourage anyone to vote for Hillary Clinton this fall. It reminds me too much of Rovey and Dickie and little Dub. Transparent, dishonest and hypocritical were the words I chose eight years ago, and they seem to fit now like the proverbial glove. Good luck in November.
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Posted By: Leebo @ 01/26/2008 8:19:26 AM
While I agree wtih you, I think you mean a lack of transparency, right?
Obama has, by far, the greatest chance of restoring our place of repect in the world. The Clintons will be same-old-same-old. We need new blood and to end the dynasties!
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Posted By: middleman @ 01/26/2008 4:42:47 PM
Actually, I meant transparent. I saw right through those clowns back then, and the Clintons are no less obvious. They are as predictable as they are arrogant.
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Posted By: donahoeanthony @ 01/26/2008 6:49:45 AM
I totally agree with you. I feel this country has had enough of Bush and Clinton's it time for a new start and get on with our lives.
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