'She Was Following Orders'

Who was in charge of giving orders to the reservists at Abu Ghraib?

The MPs were under the supervision of Military Intelligence. The role of the prison was dual: to have a place where detainees could be kept and...for intelligence. Military Intelligence [officers] were supervising activities there. It was contested at first, but now it's become obvious with [Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld's] testimony.

What about rumors in the unit that the reservists in the photographs were just drinking or high?

Drinking? High? Let me tell you one thing, there is nowhere to get high or drunk over there. We're not talking about the US of A. There's no beer, no liquor. Good luck finding any drugs! How do these idiots think [the reservists] got [the hoods and electric wires and women's underpants]? Iraq is a Muslim country. They have guard dogs and drug sniffing dogs three or four times to get into the country. There's no way to have fun over there.

Are you saying that the objects used for torture were provided by Military Intelligence?

You saw hoods in Guantanamo [Bay], didn't you? And you see them at Abu Ghraib. Do you think it's something the military brigade from Cumberland, Maryland, brought with them? 'Gee, do I have everything, I got my credit card, I got my M16, I got my hood.'....What's the common thing between Guantanamo base, [another jail in Iraq called Camp] Bucca and Abu Ghraib? The other places have....the same techniques, the hoods, the training, the photographs....The only common thing is Military Intelligence is interrogating at all of those places. As the kids say, "Duh!'