well, i dont know about all that. people can maintain their vitality and energy all the years of their life if they want to. a number means nothing. its how you take care of yourself, your attitude, and what motivates you. if you let yourself go because you dont care anymore, then of course you will dwindle and fade away. you dont have to have major years to do that. either you are a winner or you are a loser. i think john mccain is a winner.
How Old Is Too Old?
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Posted By: jefsmat @ 02/06/2008 9:22:31 PM
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Posted By: lmarden @ 02/02/2008 12:36:55 AM
This is a shameful article by Anna Quindlen. You know if the Democratic candidate happened to be as old as John McCain she would be speaking out against ageism. Instead she stoops to this sort of unfair and discriminatory attack.
Part of being a good progressive means looking at yourself for evidence of bias. Shamefully, Ms. Quindlen appears to have abandoned that aspect which is so essential to being a better person.
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Posted By: bigbrewhaha @ 02/01/2008 9:52:11 PM
Ann Coulter, one for the most militant fear mongering republicans that exists today swore recently she would rather vote for Hillary Clinton than John Mccain. This is an exciting time for the growing majority of decent people left in this country possibly one for the biggest turning points in the history of US politics, I can feel the storm brewing now as we get closer to crunch time the entire grizzled old republican party is now being forced to choose between a democratic pandering weeny and a high and mighty rich mormon, this has to be their worst nightmare. I can't wait to start watching smoke come out the ears of the old republican guard as they watch their party taken over by the enemy. haha!
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Posted By: Mitthasmyvote @ 01/29/2008 6:36:21 PM
Akone says: "It's about character. Senator McCain has that in spades."
That is the problem with McCain, the type of character he has displayed time and again in his life. How can a man of good conscience and good character abandon his crippled wife and 3 kids for a rich trophy wife 17 years his junior?
That is a character flaw whose magnitude I will not abide.
With Mitt Romney???s wealth he could have lived any life he chose and no one could have stopped him. He chose to stand as a good husband and father to his family. Behind closed doors and within the four walls of his home he has showed more GOOD character then anyone I have ever seen run for public office. Where are McCain???s 3 children? I have not seem them stumping for him like Mitt???s 5 sons.
Everything I see in McCain???s life, both public and private, point to him being selfish and power hungry.
As a conservative I will not vote for this man even if he is the Republican nominee. I would rather the country hit the skids with Hillary in charge then a ???Republican??? of low moral character.-
Posted By: Midge from Ohio @ 01/30/2008 9:39:12 AM
Mitthasmyvote...you are awesome! I will vote Democratic before I will vote for this low life, regardless of his age!
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Posted By: lefty1010 @ 02/01/2008 3:04:40 PM
Mitthasmyvote, your attitude is reminiscent of a pouting small child. If you can't have your way entirely, you are gonna smash all of your toys? Not voting and allowing Hillary to take office even though you expect her tu run the country into the ground is quite unpatriotic don't you think?
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Posted By: lefty1010 @ 02/01/2008 2:03:23 PM
Mitthasmyvote, your attitude is reminiscent of a pouting small child. If you can't have your way entirely, you are gonna smash all of your toys? Not voting and allowing Hillary to take office even though you expect her tu run the country into the ground is quite unpatriotic don't you think?
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Posted By: lefty1010 @ 02/01/2008 1:15:36 PM
Mitthasmyvote, your attitude is reminiscent of a pouting small child. If you can't have your way entirely, you are gonna smash all of your toys? Not voting and allowing Hillary to take office even though you expect her tu run the country into the ground is quite unpatriotic don't you think?
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Posted By: lefty1010 @ 02/01/2008 1:15:15 PM
Mitthasmyvote, your attitude is reminiscent of a pouting small child. If you can't have your way entirely, you are gonna smash all of your toys? Not voting and allowing Hillary to take office even though you expect her tu run the country into the ground is quite unpatriotic don't you think?
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Posted By: agi111 @ 01/31/2008 4:46:00 PM
renvent: Really? you are worried about another Monica? How is it you guys can gloss over the litany of criminal acts against the people by names that in the future will conjure up a period of political crime unseen before in our history: Cheney, Rove, Starr, Rice, Bush etc etc? Now there's some damage.
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Posted By: renvent @ 01/31/2008 6:02:03 PM
OH PLEASE, You Liberals .... a broken record!! 9/11 was Criminal !! All the planning,etc. happened right here in America while Billy was busy in the Oral Office!
Billy was also too busy going after Microsoft, an American company "creating" Jobs; than to keep Americans Safe!! Of course WHY would any democrat worry about Jobs, most of you don't work anyway!
Republicans are the parents who are supporting the children democrats with our tax dollars!! A simple Thank You will suffice!!!-
Posted By: jeffreylebowskijr @ 01/31/2008 6:12:07 PM
Um....really? You mean Bill Clinton was the one ignoring the FBI reports in AUGUST 2001 that said "Al Queda Determined to Strike U.S. using Airliners" because he was busy looking for an excuse to settle a family grudge with a small time con man posing as the leader of Iraq?
Oh, and I just happen to be a liberal that paid over $100k in taxes last year and who runs a business that has created over 400 jobs -- I'm proud to be a liberal -- we have open minds. You might want to look into that and quit just listening to what your hate-radio / "Christian" handlers tell you to do.
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Posted By: ohwiseone @ 01/31/2008 7:35:47 PM
Well, Mr. Blowhard, I don't think Billy was anywhere near the W.H. when UBL was offered up to us, either...AND i don't think that little "gem" you offered on the FBI was anywhere NEAR the W. H. either...How could it have been? The FBI wasn't sharing then and they SURE don't share much now...But, if they want to "learn" how to play nice, well, just hav'em watch Hill and Billary...now there's a couple who can REALLY "play you"...!
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Posted By: jeffreylebowskijr @ 02/01/2008 2:16:54 PM
Hey wiseone...remember who CREATED UBL in the first place? Clinton? No, sorry, that would be Reagan & Bush 1. Ditto for Saddam, Noriega, etc...it's kind of excusable, because back then our banana/oil republic strongmen were much cheaper proxies to take on the Soviet's proxies than actually put our soldiers in harm's way, but our cutting them lose and pretending we didn't know them after the fact made 'em a bit antsy. Please do study history -- it's awfully illuminating, with the emphasis on the "awful" -- don't get me wrong, I'm NO fan of the Clintons, but what Bush & co. have wrought is without precedent, at least in U.S. history.
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Posted By: renvent @ 01/31/2008 6:48:19 PM
Wow, A demy who is employed and pays taxes! You might qualify to ask Billary a "planted" question, maybe one that would lead Billary to tears... Too bad the world leaders won't be privy to these type of questions when asking our next President about real life situations! That require real Answers!!
On Ignoring the report in August 2001? Proof?? Just more Liberal B.S. Yes, I'm sure the N.Y. Times has documentation. Maybe Quindlen has proof or Coyote Blitzer.
The Clinton corruption makes Nixon look like a boyscout!
But, congrats on being an employed Demy - you represent about 1 % of your party. But, come on now you don't expect me to believe that you are also in the 1 % of your party that believes in Jesus?
You know I could handle Obama as President; but America must NEVER again allow a Clinton into the White House! NEVER NEVER NEVER-
Posted By: jeffreylebowskijr @ 01/31/2008 7:20:38 PM
Hey, I don't think Hillary should be president either, and while I'm not a Christian, I subscribe to the actual, New Testament values espoused by Christ. I have to say, I think he was a liberal too. Sorry :-)
Anyhow...the August 2001 thing was from Bush's FBI...it's part of the 9/11 report. They just gave the pilot who reported (sorry -- his name escapes me) the guy who was paying for flight training in cash as was later convicted as the '20th hijacker' a $5 MILLION reward for TRYING to warn the government.
Bill was corrupt along with the Mrs., but he DID balance the budget and Bush 1 & 2 and Saint Ronnie before them have plunged us into a possibly inescapable debt. That's not liberal fiction -- it's from the White House OMB.
Bottom line -- MOST of the people I know are liberals, hold good jobs, pay taxes, and are well educated, considerate people who take the time to really look into the issues...hence their being open-minded and, ahem, liberal (by definition). Iraq is a sideshow, Iran is much more a threat, but a very well contained one (as was Iraq). North Korea can barely feed itself. Worry a whole lot more about China and some of the rouge ex-Soviet folks. Worry more about our own debt (it IS a problem and growing -- I'm a fiscally conservative liberal -- UNLIKE Bush, Reagan, etc...they give lower taxes only by borrowing against our future...they've taken out a nearly 10 TRILLION DOLLAR home equity loan with the U.S. treasury as collateral to the Chinese. Doesn't that bother you just one little bit?
No more Republicans, sorry, even if that means Hillary...the long term damage the last 3 Republican presidents have done to this nation will be revealed in time and it will sicken those of you who will still admit by then that you supported them. You talk about facts -- check 'em out. A little land rip off and philandering by the Clintons ain't even a speck compared to the REAL damage done. Like I said, I HAVE done the research and not just listened to either side. Look into it. It'll shock you to your core.
Peace in '08-
Posted By: renvent @ 01/31/2008 8:31:42 PM
I agree with you, that yes Jesus surely demonstrated some great moral values, that I (not a conservative, way right Christian) try to emulate. I want to see aid given to the poor and I esp. want a higher empasis placed on education, which I believe would help many to rise above their situations and help to end the ignorance and prejudice on so many fronts!
I was a young when JFK was assassinated, but grew up admiring his basic fundamentals. "Ask not what your country can do for you; but what you can do for your country."
Like you I have my own business, I made the sacrifices for higher education, to support myself as did my wife who is a Doctor.
A couple of things lead me away from the democratic party ideals when the time came for me to cast my first vote! Carter's handling of the Iran Hostage Crisis, and the poor morale of the MIlitary at that time. Reagan promised hope and change; I felt it was the only option to getting back any kind of military strength! I am not a war monger, but you must be able to protect your own country effectively! I admire President Carter's efforts after leaving office, and have read many of his books!
I am also disenchanted w/ the democrats as they look at the wealthy as the villians. We are to be taxed more and more, while able bodied individuals exploit the systems put in place to help those who fall on hard times. Welfare/ unemployment, etc. were not meant to be a "way of life" for generations of families! And I believe the Gov't should not Lie to these people, as they will never get ahead by relying on these handouts!!! All in the name of Votes!
I wish there were just candidates who stated their opinions and "how" they would make changes, etc. to the many complex problems that we face today!! Then some accountability!! Similar to the British.
Neither party is doing Americans any favors. Filibusters, in place of compromise. Voting against what is best for America, just to uphold party lines.
This started out as an exercise to express my disappointment in slanted news repoting. I have enjoyed this debate; you are obviously well educated and well read!! I appreciate your opinions as well!
If you are ever on youtube, I'd enjoy an occasional chat about the real issues our Country faces, on a non public forum! My user name is the same : renvent.
Take Care, and may America continue to be Blessed with the Freedom of Speech and Choices!!-
Posted By: jeffreylebowskijr @ 01/31/2008 11:56:38 PM
Well said. It would be nice if those of us with more, ah, "blended" opinions on things economic, educational, spiritual, etc. could find candidates who we could truly support instead of always having to choose from whichever lesser of two evils seems to be slightly more of a like mind to ours....and even then, who really knows until they assume power.
Education, as you say, is absolutely the key. Welfare was meant as a *very* temporary measure to ensure that people didn't die, not as a way of life, and yes, I am ticked off that my taxes support too many who will not work. JFK, RFK, MLK were seemingly the last great orators of the American political system (Obama's not bad, but a poor shadow really of those three)...I really think that Carter, and probably Bush 1, were much more a victim of their times than anything else...Carter clearly underestimated the capacity of evil in the world, just as, I think, Bush 2 underestimated what he was biting off in Iraq without a post-Saddam tactical plan in place.
Anyway...I too hate the slanted news reporting. It's devolved to the point where there's far more money in punditry than in straight up reporting, and the 24/7 news cycles has led to "news" being fed to us even when there isn't any.
I think that, in this election cycle, some of the most 'fringe' candidates on both sides (Ron Paul, Dennis Kucinich, Mike Huckabee, and Al Gore [though not really a candidate] made some of the more compelling and/or interesting arguments in the debates...the 'mainstream' folks on both sides are more afraid of losing than they are enamored of winning for the right reasons)....I guarantee you that whoever wins this election (and the next 4 or 5) will mostly be spending their time trying to figure out how to help America survive it's internal and external economic threats...even with an overtaxed military we still have the strategic power and capacity to overwhelm any real threats to our way of life......9/11 sucked, but taken outside its emotional context of our own vulnerability on our own soil, it's wasn't even a nick in our global hegemony of power....we really DO need to be thinking clearly about the Chinese and ex-Soviet states though...THEY do have the power to threaten us.
Alright....it's late, but thanks for the debate. Nice to have one :-)
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Posted By: jeffreylebowskijr @ 01/31/2008 3:20:44 PM
McCain is, in general, a good guy I think. He's definitely kow towed to the right wing nut jobs for the past eight years, but then so have a lot of folks. Unfortunately, the bottom line is that he's a Republican, and it should be a cold day in hell before we let a Republican run this country again. Those of you who are fans of the nearly-sainted Ronald Reagan and the shrubs should take a long, cold, hard look at the financial hole your party has dug this country into -- this is a boring topic to most folks, but it's FAR more scary than Iraq, Iran, or Al Queda if you start peeling away the layers and seeing what it means for our future. GOP = fear, debt, bigotry, war, and lies. Sure, the Dems have some real peaches as well, but they're going to be the lesser of two evils for a long time to come for those who really are paying attention.
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Posted By: lefty1010 @ 02/01/2008 9:40:28 AM
Hillary a lesser evil? Is that possible?
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Posted By: Karenn1 @ 02/01/2008 8:30:43 AM
When you have to keep a young wife by your side, all of the time,. your to old.
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Posted By: wernet @ 01/29/2008 10:50:30 PM
Anna, you ignorant slut.
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Posted By: QSW71N @ 02/01/2008 7:44:55 AM
now that was funny
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Posted By: QSW71N @ 02/01/2008 7:43:14 AM
Presidents definately age in dog years. Bush looks like he's been run over by a truck. I guess that's what happens when you have to run a bogus war.
If age is an issue, it's for the voters to decide. Certainly not to have a age after which you can't run.
You obviously are for Hillary. Do you ever cringe when you write these columns bashing the other candidates to try to sway our opinion? I feel like I'm in a church and the preacher is telling me if I don't vote for the pro-life candidate I'm going to hell.
www.begup.com
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Posted By: ohwiseone @ 01/31/2008 7:18:08 PM
Whoa, I' 64 and I still HATE climbing stairs...I merely run up and down them, JUST to get it over with...oops, I ended a sentence in a preposition...there goes MY credibility!!
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Posted By: Steven555 @ 01/31/2008 7:07:00 PM
A mean and iditioc column by Ms. Quindlan. The reason he walks stairs slowly and can't lift his arms to comb his hair is BECAUSE of the fact that McCain was beaten as a POW. She treats these facts as evidence of his age.
She worries about this claptrap, while Clintons are pulling an end run around the Constitution's 2-term limit.
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Posted By: TxTchr @ 01/31/2008 6:18:14 PM
Ms. Quindlan, you have greatly disappointed me. I have admired your writing. You sure killed that today with the idiotic remark about John McCain's age. His body may have been beaten, but you can bet his mind is a whole lot sharper than yours. He understands the times and what this country needs, a trait sadly lacking in the other candidates. I am a 72 year-old substitute teacher and don't plan on retiring until I can't move. Do the math! If 50 is the new 35, then 70 is the new 55. Do the math!!! How old are you, by the way?
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Posted By: bigbrewhaha @ 01/31/2008 6:14:51 PM
The last thing we need in this country is another confused disconnected old guy from the vietnam era making decisions about how we should guide this country into the future. Guys like mccain and bush are always trying to figure out how to go backwards rather than forwards i.e. the last 8 years.... We have to have a young progressive thinker, i'm sick of wars, stop with the warring you freakin' old people, us young people have found better things to do with our time, like solve the problems you old idiots keep creating. WE DON'T CARE YOU WERE IN VIETNAM. What the hell does anything have to do with vietnam man! -Lebowski
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Posted By: sjbrock80 @ 01/31/2008 5:00:13 PM
You're too old to be writing articles, Quindlen.
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Posted By: renvent @ 01/31/2008 6:03:10 PM
AMEN
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Posted By: DCSteve @ 01/31/2008 5:55:14 PM
Are there not certain jobs that because of the task there is a maximum age limit? I think pilots have a max, and then they lose their licenses. I understand past a certain age you can't rent cars (I got an earful of that from my Dad when he got to that age). Certainly when I see some of those old stuff-shirted jackasses in the Senate it makes a compelling argument for age restrictions.
On the other hand, the President receives pretty good medical attention, and has a staff so I think that if he/she were to lose their capacity someone would pull them -- there is a constitution process for it. And honestly a senile John McCain is still probably twice the President that George W. Bush is on W's best day ever. Even less risk if he does not have Dick Cheney as his VP. I feel reasonable safe -- not that I would vote for McCain -- his politics stink. A better reason I think.
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Posted By: lenabq @ 01/31/2008 5:54:15 PM
Age should be very important to the American people. Ronald Reagan was clueless in his second term. Look at some of the secondary video of him and you cannot disagree. We cannot risk that again by choosing the elderly to run our country. We need to vote for President not the Vice President who will advance to the office when number 1 passes.
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Posted By: FRANKIEDOC @ 01/29/2008 11:02:54 PM
Ms Quindlen, since this is apparently the occasion for cheap shots let me interject as well. Is it true that journalists also age in dog years? I saw your picture. Woof!
And is it an early manifestation of Alzheimer's that caused you to write this column?
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Posted By: eport @ 01/31/2008 4:57:39 PM
It is always interesting that when someone can't think of a clever or intelligent thing to say to a women they disagree with, they insult her looks. A very cheap shot.
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Posted By: sjbrock80 @ 01/31/2008 5:05:17 PM
Preach it, ugly sister.
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Posted By: Sturmovik8 @ 01/31/2008 4:38:40 PM
It's not a kind reality but then there is really isn't any other type. Unless of course, you serve in the Bush administration. McCain is running out of time when this will become a concern that his political campaign will not be able to gloss over. He's not even in the middle of a general election and he already looks exhausted. Along with the problems, enormous problems, he will have bringing th multiple factions of his party together in support of his effort, convincing voters that he is physically up to the task will be even more of a task. The bottom line is that he does not portray that no matter how much he states his vitality.
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Posted By: Sturmovik8 @ 01/31/2008 4:36:39 PM
It's not a kind reality but then there is really isn't any other type. Unless of course, you serve in the Bush administration. McCain is running out of time when this will become a concern that his political campaign will not be able to gloss over. He's not even in the middle of a general election and he already looks exhausted. Along with the problems, enormous problems, he will have bringing th multiple factions of his party together in support of his effort, convincing voters that he is physically up to the task will be even more of a task. The bottom line is that he does not portray that no matter how much he states his vitality.
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Posted By: jmcurry @ 01/31/2008 4:33:29 PM
Real nice, Anna. You should be ashamed of yourself. The fact is that most people would not be up for the job of President of the United States, regardless of their age. McCain is a patriot. I plan on voting for him.
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