Comment: The US constitution does not contain the word democracy because the founders wanted to emphasize the more complex system of checks and balances associated with a republic as opposed to the immediate impulses of a democracy. In any case the original 'democracies' of ancient Greece were hardly beacons of liberalism or inclusivity, nevermind universal suffrage, whatever they choose to call themselves.
Comment: The Soviets attempted rule by force - and look what happened. Needless to say the mujadeen Ronald Reagan armed turned into the Taliban. In addition, instead of going after bin Laden in Afghanistan and concentrating on making Afghanistan a stable region. What do we do? We invade Iraq. That makes as much sense as invading Brazil after Pearl Harbor. The other big problem is that Bush has lost all his credibility - We desperately need a regime change here. We need to phase ourself out of Iraq and try to fix up Afghanistan. Moreover, if we hate the al-Qaeda - we need to cut off their allowance. If they did not get oil revenues from Saudi Arabia, they wouldn't survive. We need to develop renewable energy and green technology. We should use the $ 150 billion economic stimulus package for that goal. We would fight terrorism and jump start a multi-trillion dollar industry at the same time.
Comment: Karzai way and directions are absolutly right and near future he will unite the people of Afghanistan unite and make the country peaceful
If at the moment he compromise with Taliban his govt will remained stable but in near future the Afghanistan will remained unstable
Karzai honestly rule the country and in right directions and the world community need to support him
Karzai launch a well organized and honest moment through the libral civil society whose responsibility to educate the people
Very soon all those who are engaged with Taliban will realize their responsibilty for the bright future of Afghanistan
The engaged people with Taliban still looking for moracle and will soon realized the reality
US pressure on Pakistan to combat with extremist are very important and the Pakistani Taliban engement in Pakistan and will reduce the extremist in Afghanistan
The more they engaged in Pakistan the low in Afghanistan will insurgency
Comment: Shaista, you are completely confused. Karzai and Musharraf are the two chips of the same circuit block. They are covert hands of the master terrorist holding the world at ransom. To expect normal behavior from stooges can only be day-dreaming expected from abnormal minds. Have heart and wait.
Comment: The wires must have been crossed between the1992 "grand strategy" for U.S. global dominance that became known as the "Pentagon paper", and the more recent pipe dreem of "spreading democracy".
Comment: Agreed completely. It is not surprising that, the US constitution does not recognize and therefore contain even the word "democracy," in it, but instead stipulates that, "The United States shall guarantee to every State in its Union, a republican form of government". It is therefore prudent that, the US should first set its own house in order by making suitable amendments in its constitution to make democratic form of governance equally "constitutional", before claiming to be a champion of democratic virtues, which it boasts to export to the world, even by military might.
Comment: THE WAY WE, THE U.S. AND NATO, ARE CONDUCTING THE WAR IN AFGHANISTAN IS COMPLETELY WRONG. MR. HAMID KARZAI IS NOT AND SHOULD NOT BE CONSIDERED THE "PRESIDENT" OF AFGHANISTAN. HE IS INDEED THE MAJOR OF KABUL.
AFGHANISTAN WAS AND WILL NEVER A UNITED COUNTRY. IT IS A GRAGMENTED COUNTRY RULED BY WARLORDS. THUS THESE WARLORDS HAVE DEFFERENT ALLEGIANCE TO DEFFERENT PARTIES AND DIFFERENT INTEREST. THE ETHNICITY OF THE COUNTRY WILL NEVER ALLOW ONE DOMINANT PARTY TO RULE.
THE CENTRAL GOVERNMENT EXIST ONLY BY NAME AND BY ANY OTHER POWER. MR. KARZAI IS INDEED CONSIDERED TO BE A PUPET IN THE HAND OF THE WESTERN POWER.
FOR CENTURIES DRUGS, MAINLY OPIUM AND HEROIN, ARE THE ONLY WAY TO GENERATE FUNDS FOR ANY AND ALL PURPOSES. THUS WHOEVER CONTROLS THE DRUG TRAFFICKING CONTROLS EVERYTHING.
THE DRUG MONEY IS ALSO A BLESSING INCOME FOR THE SURROUNDING COUNTRIES. EVERY NEIGHBORING COUNTRY HAS INDEED A SHORING POWER IN DIFFERENT GEOGRAPHIC REGION OF AFGHANISTAN. ANY REGULATION WHICH DOESN'T OFFER BENEFITS TO NEIGHBORING COUNTRIES WILL NEVER WORK.
HAMID KARZAI AND HIS GOVERNMENT ARE SO CORRUPT THAT NEITHER THE U.S NOR THE NATO POWER CAN FIX IT IN OUR LIFE TIME. HAMID KARZAI WILL REMAIN AS GOVERNOR OF KABUL UNTIL, EITHER HE VOLUNTARILY GIVES UP HIS POST OR HE IS ELIMINATED BY HIS OPPONENTS, THE TALIBAN OR THE MILITARY.
SURROUNDING COUTRIES DO NOT LIKE TO SEE A REALLY UNITED AFGHANISTAN, BECAUSE THAT MEANS THE END OF THEIR BENEFITS. FOR EXAMPLE, IN THE CASE OF PAKISTAN, DURG AND ARMS MONEY IS BIG BUSINESS AND VERY BIG AS FAR AS MONEY LAUNDERING IS CONCERNED. PARVEZ MUSHARRAF IS KEEPING HIS PRESIDENCY THROUGH THE FINANCIAL SUPPORT AND CONRIBUTIONS TO HIS MILITARY OFFICERS, MOST OF WHOM ARE CORRUPT LIKE MUSHARRAF. MONEY GIVEN TO THE GOVERNMENT OF PAKISTAN WILL NEVER BENEFIT THE COUNTRY NEITHER WILL ELIMINATED THE TERRORISTS WHOSE ACTIVITIES ARE INCREASING DAY BY DAY.
NEED TO CHANGE AFGHANISTAN AND THE NEIGHBORING COUNTRIES, THE ONLY WAY WILL BE THROUGH SOCIAL AND ELABORATE EDUCATION. OTHERWISE ALL THE WESTERN FINANCIAL, HUMAN, MILITARY AND MATERIAL RESOURCES ARE AND WILL BE WASTED.
MR. HAMID KARZAI MAY BE A GOOD PERSON, HOWEVER HE IS NOT THE MAN TO CHANGE AFGHANISTAN. NEVER.
Comment: Our interests in Afghanistan: The Poppy, and the end product: CHEAP HEROIN. This is part of the U.S. government's racist policy to keep large segments of our population from being productive citizens and ensure the growth of the national security prison and military industrial complex.
Comment: Once again America abandons its puppet. --
When Herman Melville wrote _Moby Dick_, a character reads the newspapers, it reads: "BLOODY WAR IN AFGHANISTAN / U.S. PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION CONTESTED" --- 150 year later, NOTHING HAS CHANGED except the names of the children our tax dollars are gong to kill.
Comment: jreid17, if you think the United States and Israel are anything other than synonymous in that region of the world, you should put the glass dick down. And if you think there's a huge difference between our having killed hundred thousand Iraqi muslims (or whatever the number is) as collateral damage, and just doing it because we can, then I have to question your intelligence. Do you really think that in the hearts and minds of the people of that region that they accept and overlook these deaths as part of a noble cause? The Roman empire was around alot longer than we have been, and they killed by the millions those who got in their way, and they did it because they could, and there wasn't a damn thing anybody else could do about it, unless they wanted the same. Tell me, who would stop us? The Saudi Royal family? The Bahraini Royal family? Karzai? Musharraff? The Iraqi government? As long as people can have comfort and stability, they will stay out of it. Nobody wants to be wants to be the next iraq, to face the brutal efficiency of the legions. You are a Roman, damnit, grow up.
Comment: I dont know, all i remember is people screaming how the Americans would become the next Russian forces to invade and how we would never have a chance to topple the Taliban government. Obviously this wasn't true, and to say the country isn't better by leaps and bounds than under the hands Talibanis is absurd. Things haven't been perfect obviously but perhaps if we were a little more Romanesque in our approach we could change that. Perhaps the problems aren't that we ARE Roman, but that we AREN'T Roman enough, people in the region obviously respect rule by force.....
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Comment: In all seriousness, I am severely disappointed w/ the intelligence level of 90 percent of the commentators on this site, that means you "Ron Paul for Pope", and you "isaidit", and you "pablito" You are all unarmed in this battle of wits. None of what any of you has said is fact or realistic in anyway. The only things that I have seen being written on this web site are the rantings and ravings of a bunch of left wing looneys with conspiracy theories and bullshit answers. Get a job "thehumbled", and put the glass dick down, crack is bad for you.
Budlight, I agree, those of us who served there know better than these idiots, the people of Afghanistan want freedom from the tyranny and brutality of the Taliban, who sought to keep the pop. under control through ignorance and extreme brutality. The U.S. on the other hand seeks to empower the masses through education and good will, by building schools, roads and hospitals.
MKF1, the average Afghani does NOT support the Taliban, that's so absurd I don't know where to start correcting you. Pablito, you have no idea what "ethics" are so stuff a cork in your man pleaser before you make yourself look any dumber. I hate you commie liberals, every single one of you, I won't preach tolerance because I have none for you, your ignorance is disgusting and you are all terribly pitiful excuses for human beings.
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Comment: I said Americans should fight to defend America and its interests. We should not invest blood and treasure in campaigns that have no objective interest for us.
Do you disagree with that? By the way, I support the effort in Afghanistan, so thanks for getting that wrong, and then calling *me* a dimwit.
Comment: It is not surprising that Mr Karzai is losing grip in Afghanistan. He lacks any charm or charisma. Afghanistan needs a more down to earth guy, who can connect with the Afghani folk. I mean Mr Karzai doesnt even pronounce the name Afghanistan like the native Afghanis do. Being prol-iberal is one thing but Mr Karzai appears to try to hard and somehow looks very false.
Comment: We must impose our values on these people through spectacular violence while we can. America/Israel and liberal wesrtern values cannot coexist with these conservative religious cultures, and the digital age has made encroachment of values unavoidable.
Comment: isaidit said:
"America/Israel"
Really? They're the same thing? Is one more important to you than the other? Are you an American? Dual citizen, perhaps?
*HERE*, folks, is why your sons and daughters are dying in Iraq. Americans must fight for America, and no one else.
If Israel wants spectacular violence, well, I'm sure they can conjure it up by themselves.
Comment: If we neturally analyze the positions and performance of Afghan president Karzai and Pakistani president Musharaf the following are observed.
1) The Afghan president willing and desired a better future for the people of Afghanistan
2) Making grounds to stablize and make strong his country Afghanistan
3) Not willing to remained in power at any cost
4) Make better the institutes and try upto the maximum
5) Sign of fedrations and willing to have good relations with all
On the other hand Pakistani President Musharaf is totally reverse and his achievements are as bellow.
1) Desire to remained in power even at country cost
2) Make the country worst even in coutry histroy
3) make destablize the Pakistan
4) Create ethical differences in the country
5) Not a sign of fedrations but of a terror and biased group
Karzai upto some extent make his coutry Afghanistan better than before and honestly efforts to make his country Afghanistan better and better
While Musharaf make a better Pakistan worst and make his country Pakistan basis weak and shake and try to destablize the country worst and worst
Musharaf is selfish, biased,power hungry and worst dictator and lead his country to worst
Karzai sincer,honest and a leader and lead his country to moderations and betterment
Comment: Shaista, you are completely confused. Karzai and Musharraf are the two chips of the same circuit block. They are covert hands of the master terrorist holding the world at ransom. To expect normal behavior from stooges can only be day-dreaming expected from abnormal minds.
Comment: If Karzai remained for few years then the world will watch that the Afghanistan will become a very peacefull country of the World
Karzai struggle not seem to the world but in near future the world will realized
Karzai know the nature of the people and it will take few more years to make the country peacefull
If foreign intervention eliminated there will be no suck attacks in Afghanistan but all the instability due to the neighbouring country
During Rusian inadings we observed that majority of the Afghan become libral and secular but the neighbouring not willing so and make the Afghnistan destablize and still
Why the neighbouring do this because the stable Afghanistan regain the Areas which is still under the neighbouring country controle
The Afghans were follower what they were teach and little moderate educations make them fully libral
Karzai know the culture and are working on the basis to make the future of afghanistan bright
He often invite the writers and poets from the neighboring for to make changes the sentiments of the people
Very soon the world will see that Afghanistan will become a moderate nations on world map
The only requirements for this stability to eliminate the foreign intaruptions
Comment: Face reality for once in your lives. The average Afghan supports the Taleban. The opinions of Karzai and Khalilzad dont count. The average Afghan has a set of core values like the Taleban, not like Karzai and Khalilzad. The Taleban are incorrectly demonized and attacked in this war. The criminals are Al Qaeda, not the Taleban. Whether you poll the Afghans through the ballot box, or the village level sympathy, the answer is the same, the Taleban is who they want. Delusions of imposing western values are doomed to fail.
Comment: The problem with Afghanistan was invading and occupying the country in the first place and employing the help of the Mujahideen thugs (conveniently relabelled Northern Alliance for the western audience) to do the dirty work. The US has brought misery to the Afghan people - just like they are bringing misery and death to Iraq in biblical proportions. The only ethical response is for the US to withdraw completely and start to pay compensation for the damages. Fair compensation for victims would surely impoverish the US but to borrow from Madeline Albright when she reflected on half a million dead children as a result of sanction in Iraq: "yeah, if that's the cost, i think its worth it."
Comment: How can we, the USA, blame the Karzai administration for losing its grip? The USA, under Bush and his war criminals, abandoned Afghanistan in lieu of the oil resources of Iraq. From the beginning, the war there was lost for lack of resources and logistical support etc. The Bush administration and our faithful Pentagon planners (from hell) have left both, the legacy of strategic failure, wiping out our prestige in its wake, and many generations of financial burden on the backs of the American people. Sorry to say our media, like Newsweek and most of the others have sold their souls to the gov in place of writing the truth about the real situation in Afghanistan (but they the investors wouldn???t ever say that. They don???t have the guts or the integrity to really say the truth, just preserve their investment). First try practicing a truer form of Democracy at home rather than abandoning, then burdening your own subjects. The United States government is really the one losing its grip!
Comment: How can we, the USA, blame the Karzai administration for losing its grip? The USA, under Bush and his war criminals, abandoned Afghanistan in lieu of the oil resources of Iraq. From the beginning, the war there was lost for lack of resources and logistical support etc. The Bush administration and our faithful Pentagon planners (from hell) have left both, the legacy of strategic failure, wiping out our prestige in its wake, and many generations of financial burden on the backs of the American people. Sorry to say our media, like Newsweek and most of the others have sold their souls to the gov in place of writing the truth about the real situation in Afghanistan (but they the investors wouldn???t ever say that. They don???t have the guts or the integrity to really say the truth, just preserve their investment). First try practicing a truer form of Democracy at home rather than abandoning, then burdening your own subjects. The United States government is really the one losing its grip!
Comment: I find the emblem of Mulloch behind Karzai most inspiring.
Comment: I find the emblem of Mulloch behind Karzai most inspiring.
Comment: A United States/Israeli alliance better hurry up and put a smackdown on the entire region in a decisive(sp?) war of conquest while it can. The zionist nations must stop pretending to have noble intentions and hurry up and get to the core of this thing while it can still be done. Acceptance of Israel and oil is what matters to the U.S./Israel. Does the zionist west really want more elections over in that part of the world? Get real. Seize the oil and crush the resistance.
Comment: Yet another country the media portrays as a lost cause, but those of us who have been there, see positive outcomes that are never reported.. Don't listen to the media.
Comment: jumpingnots is "tired" of the sh*t in countries like afghanistan, but forgets (or doesnt care to know) what part we as americans have played in destabilizing these countries in the first place, in the aims of protecting our own self interest (though to be sure its a disingenous, short sighted kind of self interest we are talking about).
why didnt we follow up with proper support? why didnt we practice the very principles that we preach so loudly?
we doomed ourselves to failure by dropping the ball, and in reality not really caring so much about the high minded principles we used to justify our actions. We shoulder a lot of the blame for the current situation, but its easier for too many americans to ignore the actual facts. ignorance is bliss... until the reality sets in as it always will, eventually
Comment: jumpingnots is "tired" of the sh*t in countries like afghanistan, but forgets (or doesnt care to know) what part we as americans have played in destabilizing these countries in the first place, in the aims of protecting our own self interest (though to be sure its a disingenous, short sighted kind of self interest we are talking about). im sure jump was happy for us to drop our bombs and kick some butt in the first place.
why didnt we follow up with proper support? we doomed ourselves to failure by dropping the ball, and in reality not really caring so much about the high minded principles we used to justify a lot of our actions. We shoulder a lot of the blame for the current situation, but its easier for too many americans to ignore the actual facts. ignorance is bliss...
Comment: It was as wrong to invade Afghanistan as it was to invade Iraq. Afghanis did not bomb the world trade center they were mostly Saudis. It's like bombing all of California because of Americas inability to produce Bush and Cheney to the Hague for war crimes and crimes agaionst humanity. As typical of military intelligence they learned nothing from history. The Russians didn't win there and the US won't either. These people are willing to fight and die for their way of life just like the North Vietnamese were.
Comment: As far as i am concerned forget that whole damm country.,take every thing what we put in there back out ,it only cost our American citizens money and no thanks anyway,so let them go to hell i am flat out tired hearing that bulls..t .Let the Taliban take over, than everybody is happy again, if not who cares they dit not want our help,so buck out.Take care of our own country we have plenty of problems here at home that need lots of work to fix and money. An very angry American.
Comment: Yeah I agree with you, I am also fed up with all the B.S
Comment: well i think its just like everyone somehow want to be in power, or maybe they think that they can control afghanistan but we shouldnt forget that afghanistan does not need a owner or someone to controll it, i think we should fix it from bottom to top, afghans should get together and no matter if they r pashtun, hazara, ozbak or tajik they are all known as afghans and they really should be proud of their nationality. we all know that others have used our country in one way or other and they are not there to help us stand up, all they do is feed us but not teaching who to find food. lets focuse on important points. lets open our eyes and see wats going on around us and who is pushing us down.
Comment: Khalizad really has a very twisted mind if he wants to be the president of Afghanistan. The president of Afghanistan is just a servant of the US hated by most Afghans. He will be living in fear of his life and he will have no power what so ever. The only enticement that will make him endure as the president of Afghanistan as what Karzai is having now, is receiving a free daily blow job in the palace by Afghan interns.
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