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  • Posted By: Mofnoblesse @ 01/30/2008 1:35:45 PM

    No offense but the previous reader, but hse is getting her information about "obesity" and nutrition from a media and a healthcare industry bought, sold and sponsored by the weight loss and pharmaceutical industry. Every study that extolls the "dangers" of "obesity" has been speonsored and paid for by someone who has money to gain by people deperate and frightened into loosing weight. Read "Rethinking Thin" by Gina Kolata or "The Diet Myth" by Paul Campos.
    I was a chubby kid that was harassed and bullied into loosing weight by EVERYONE from my parents to my family doctor. What they did was set my up for a lifelong battle withe bulimia/anorexia.
    Not once in my life have I been overeaten. I eat less than most people and only organic foods. I exercise 7-10 hrs a week. I am a size 18 W, weight around 200 pounds and I am in perfect shiny health with blood pressure of 110/60, and fasting blood sugar of 85 and the cardiovascular health of an 18 year old triathlon athlete.
    Why? Because I decided to STOP focusing on my weight.
    The national and medical obsession with weight loss is producing a world of eating disordered thiking individuals.

    • Posted By: KennyF @ 01/30/2008 2:11:14 PM

      Would that you were not the exception to the rule. Most Americans aren't endomorphs whos rounded shape hides an athletic condition. They are seriously overweight people conditioned by lifestyle and social cues to be sedentary overindulgers. Your experience simply does not hold for the vast majority of the 75 million obese Americans out there now.

    • Posted By: GTO Judge @ 01/30/2008 1:51:41 PM

      I admire your attitude about weight. I am the same way....
      I'm tired of being regarded as "fat" because I am larger than a size 4.

  • Posted By: ff21 @ 01/30/2008 1:25:38 PM

    you fat cows are losers!

    • Posted By: GTO Judge @ 01/30/2008 2:09:57 PM

      Really original, and really mature. How old are you, 5??

      Grade school is over, buddy. Stop acting like a little kid!!

  • Posted By: kbalt @ 01/30/2008 2:09:34 PM

    I can tell your a skinny expressionalist person. I don't believe that the author is saying that a person being skinny and expressionalist is wrong, he's saying that promoting it as a way to be is wrong. Our teenagers are forcing themselves to thro up to be that way and that is wrong! Most models are not that size by nature and they also kill themselves to be that size as well as if thats all you see on the catwalk then that is being discriminating to thicker audiences. Considering most business men and women are figured and not skinny and the people buying the clothes are not skinny, but figured. Please research, its true. Thats why they say America is over weight. I believe that the catwalk should be filled with all shapes and sizes to promote "Be who you are because its beautiful", rather they are super skinny or thicker creations. Beautiful is beautiful and it comes in all forms, but the media is betraying it as only one size, 0.

  • Posted By: mshainraque @ 01/30/2008 2:09:03 PM

    Modeling isnt about the woman. Sorry, it's about the clothes. The woman are tall because they are higher up than those viewing them, and the height makes them look proportional to the eye. They are thin because the designer wants to clothes to hang right, and they are expressionless because people aren't supposed to be staring at them, they are supposed to be looking at the clothes. Thin tall models make the clothes look better. People should stop thinking there's some huge conspiracy by designers against short people or large people. Their bodies are just too distracting to veiwers who have come to just see the clothes.

  • Posted By: southernwitch77 @ 01/30/2008 2:09:00 PM

    I am glad that there is a turn towards the norm but it really should be more about how a person carries their self. How big or little a person should be should not be the focus but it tends to lean more towards the thin. Majority of us are not a size 2 and never will be. Why not just try to make ppl see they can be beautiful no matter what size they are?

  • Posted By: lovegemininyc@yahoo.com @ 01/30/2008 2:08:43 PM

    I live in Manhattan and have worked in this world and models do not look like regular people. You can tell from a distance. By real people I think the author meant people who are not giant stick figures but healthy, average but attractive people. The point of a model being beautiful is so people want to look like her and buy the cloths to do that. When models are these size two women with size 10 feet that are 6 feet tall, that goal is unattainable. To have average height size 4-6 women who are attractive, fit, and healthy would be a good thing for girl???s and women's images of what is a healthy body type. I have worked and played with models and they really don't live healthy lifestyles. While a handful may have naturally thin bodies most don???t eat, purge, smoke heavily, use cocaine and party a lot. I think it would be a step forward if our current models were just allowed to gain weight. I used to find models for the dress line I worked for and to find them with hips and breasts was almost impossible. The girls would say my agent keeps saying I need to loose more weight. I truly feel it???s not that we need different models but the industry needs to demand that models are healthy and start to cast more healthy less emaciated looking women.

  • Posted By: Diva76 @ 01/30/2008 2:08:39 PM

    I feel that there are those out there in the industry that represents all shapes and sizes. Sure there are sizes out there that are not as healthy as some albeit we are here in this world and have to be clothed. Not one person has the exact same taste as the next. Short, tall, big or small. Clothing is being made for everyone. So why not have sizes be presented in that manner. If a person is obese, then yes they need to work on that look for health reasons. Yet they still need to have attire that is pleasing to their eyes and style. That can go for someone that is dangerously thin also. Society deems the perfect body, but yet if the perfect bodied individual was asked what they would like to change about tht body, you will receive answer. We all know what needs to be done to be healthy, yet it is not going to happen in such a manner. So lets not stomp on toes of an ultra thin model or evena plus size queen. We are all here to acheive a goal and that is to live in this world.

  • Posted By: cslsx4tish @ 01/30/2008 2:06:35 PM

    I think this is great that the world is starting to accept real people as models. Coming from someone who modeled all through high school and college it was very tough on my body! I was always comfortable in size 6 or even 8 but designers didn't want that they wanted the size 0s and 2s, and I found it shameful that if you were a size 10 you were considered a plus size model! Thats not fair to those people who were fit bigger than me.

  • Posted By: SueBee @ 01/30/2008 2:06:20 PM

    Marilyn Monroe was a 14 by yesteryear's standards, love. Today, that would be considered an 8 or a 10.

  • Posted By: southernwitch77 @ 01/30/2008 2:06:11 PM

    I've never been what is considered "thin" by any means and I don't ever want to be. I am a proud size 18 and have confidence in who I am no matter what size I may be. A person should not be judged on how fat or thin they are any way. It is all in how you carry yourself.

  • Posted By: queeny1 @ 01/30/2008 2:05:52 PM

    people need to understand that these models have serious eating disorders in order to be that thin. You might have the occasional natural " super thin " person but that is usually not the case. I just spent 35K on a 5 week stay for my 86 lb 17 yr. old who now weighs in at 116 and is still a size 2. Real bodies are in! I Back in the early 90's I wrote to some of the fashion biggies about there taste in models and how they were so unreal. And let's face it, the one's who can afford their lines are most likely REAL woment. Thanks for letting me vent.

  • Posted By: MillaR @ 01/30/2008 2:05:33 PM

    NYCGuy: i believe you are a tad narrow-minded. The socalled "victims" of the fashion industry aren't bright, smart and intellegent adults like you. Those "victims" are often teenagers, whom are easily affected by commercials. I'm sure you have this all before, but I am going to tell you once again so it can interpret your mind and maybe widen it to allow you to evaluate other opinions, too. Teenagers have no clue who they are, you have been 13 right? So when seeing a model who is super-skinny, air-brushed to the max, lots of make up etc to make her look glam, they begin to admire this image. Which is why they want to achieve the certain look. I am not blaming models, obviously, but the designers who threatens to sack the models that don't fit into their size 0 pants (Milan, Spring Fashion Week, 2007). However, it seems to me that you might be afraid of changes and that you have a lot of negative opinions about things. Do you think Diet Coke drinking people are disgusting because it contains chemicals? Or is a boy with a lust for a cookie such a health criminal? Yeah, yeah, yeah; we all have that choice you talking so much about. But before you make a choice, there are plenty of factors you consider in your subconsious. Some you don't even consider. Before you make that certain choise, you are told about the product, you see who eats it or does it, you hear the cons and pros, you evaluate........ THEN you choose. I truly believe and KNOW that no one wants to become obese and "eat themselves to death", as you charmingly put it. And I think you too know why someone, or so many, becomes obese... Don't you?

  • Posted By: tingbao @ 01/30/2008 2:05:04 PM

    I dated an anorexic woman for more than one year. She never looked at models in magazines but she did admire other thin women in public. Anorexic women think they are fat. They have a disorder of body image. The don't just see a model in a magazine and decide to become like that model. They do emphasize clothing size and they feel odd in baggy clothes. I don't think they have the names and stats of famous models on their minds all time.

  • Posted By: Alexandra_Covington @ 01/28/2008 2:38:40 PM

    Horrible! What is there to aim for, if "ordinary" is in, and "exclusive" is out?
    I strongly suspect this is a "backlash" movement by the rich and powerful themselves. You see, when they noticed that Blacks, Asians, Jews, and Native Amemrocans coud show up as models...albeit thinner and taller ones, (at least at first), they decided to "pull a fast one", so that ALL "regular-looking" people could now be accepted as models. This being so, more people of trhe "lower (and middle) classes" would no longer strive to look thin and "beautiful".....leaving the REAL poweer-base, (behind the scnes power), to those "born" to be thin and white.....and rich! (It is a known fact that ROYALTY dresses differeently from the rest of us mainly in periods of "equality", such as our own. They, (and the Ivanka Trumps and Paris and Nikki Hiltons of trhe world, etc.), still stay as thin as possible. (It's also better for one's health).. When royalty starts to look like
    "real people4",I , too, may stop trying to be thin. In the meantime -- like it or not -- thin is still in.....at least to those at the top, and those who want to be at the top.
    " Real " people? EVERYONE alive is "real"! The right word should be "powerful" vs. "non-powereful". As a beliiever, still, in the tempest-tossed,
    but still VERY real "American Dream", I hope to get as thin as I can....(within eeason, of course. Looking like a concentration-camp inmate is never very
    attractive! Size 10....or maybe 6, is my goal. The Spaniards have got it right: No Models Below Tge Size of 4. I can (easily) live with that!

    Thin is IN -- but Skeletal is Grim!
    WannaBeRichAndFamous

    • Posted By: miche53083 @ 01/30/2008 2:04:53 PM

      Wow, you are an idiot.

    • Posted By: miche53083 @ 01/30/2008 2:00:03 PM

      You're an idiot.

  • Posted By: shygal @ 01/30/2008 2:04:03 PM

    I'm glad this is happening. I viewed pictures of Valentino's last show and was so turned off by the models thinness I couldn't even imagine myself wearing anything there were wearing. They all looked like holocaust victims. You could see the ribs protruding from the breast bone of the models.

  • Posted By: janmarbol @ 01/30/2008 2:03:42 PM

    i love it... about time- but won't it seem to achievable to the populus?

  • Posted By: writergal8 @ 01/30/2008 2:03:25 PM

    Soutcarolinagirl94, "real women" wear size 4-8, huh? I guess those 5'2", 95 lb Hong Kong women aren't "real."

  • Posted By: BabeEGyrl @ 01/30/2008 2:03:24 PM

    I'm so excited about this change. I am 5'2", 115 lbs, so not terribly skinny, and I don't think that I am too bad looking. Hopefully the fact that they are going to try to mirror the public a little more means that they will use short people like myself more often!!! LOL

  • Posted By: stratogustav @ 01/30/2008 2:03:15 PM

    That sucks because nice and skinny is the best and the most classy, a beauty that is defined since the foundation of western civilization in Greece.

    Who said you can't be healthy and skinny at the same time? Whoever said it, is an ignorant.

  • Posted By: nikkiinbj @ 01/30/2008 2:03:02 PM

    We don't need skinny unhealthy, we don't need fat unhealthy, just show us real people. Show me a size 10, 12, 14 or higher. Show me a 6, 4, 2 or lower - just show me healthy people!

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