It's about time!
It's about time!
so someone being fat means they are using resources?
how so?
someone that drives around, supporting the oil industry, smoking, drinking, buying overpriced imported clothes - is that person using less resources than a hypothetical "***" that "sits around all day eating"? not quite.
you are condescending yourself in your ignorance.
go get a hug or vaccination or whatever procedure you need done to get your brain out of high school and back into the real world.
Did the author fail to realize that a lot of the people looking at blogs about street fashion might also have an interest in runway fashion models and gasp! can even identify them by name? For people that are interested in fashion there isn't a brick wall between the runway and what people wear on the street. It's possible to take inspiration from everything. I can appreciate the delicate beauty of a runway model, but I can also enjoy a "normal" person looking fabulous on the street. The two things aren't mutually exclusive.
Most models are in their teens to early 20s, so I don't find it inconceivable that they can be that thin and lanky. I think it's also strange how on the one hand people condemn thin models but turn around and say it would be okay if she just had "curves". How is it more attainable for the average person to have an ample chest, 22-24 inch waist and perfect hips? It's not. So if people are going to criticize, I think the FHM/Maxim female ideal should be criticized along with everything else.
Anyways, I think the styling of the show makes them look a lot sicklier than they are. If you see the same models in a candid photo off the street they just look like thin, fresh faced young girls, hardly the scary victims on the verge of death that most are made out to be.
Muffins you are right about the unattainability of a young woman to have those unrealistic curves. There is a reason why swimsuit models may be athletic or slim girls who then have breast enlargement surgery (bad idea). Real women can yoke a 38 chest to a 22 inch waist. In real life, do you think that many teens settle for the generous chest that cames with being overweight as a compensation? Never having been a teen girl I don't know!
I come from Europe over 2 year ago and first thing I notice is fat American boy and girl. I wonder why so fat and see mexican restaurant all over. I used be fat but now am skinny and am much healthy. Fat leads to diabetes and stroke so American boy and girl want diabetes and stroke. Must stop making excuses.
can we stop sayin fat leads to diabetes it always does not there are a lot of skinny diabetics i am one of them
They have been saying this since around 97...when so many died of heroin....that they would work on the thinness and the drug addiction. I read these articles all the time. gay men running (most of) the fashion world will never use women with hips or health. but we will continue to read about this 'new thing.'
you are probably fat untainted arent you? tell the truth.
you're gay aren't you? tell the truth..
now, without having to put people down, do you have anything of substance to say?
I don't think it matters - these people commenting are those interested in the fashion world. supporting the magazines and clothes and inspiring new designs. all are equally entitled to their opinion.
this is like high school - the big angry bullies that are confused and afraid, and the calm, thoughtful variety that have important things to say.
When is the fantasy world of models and fashion going to join reality. Its seems either painfully thin women or metrosexual men are the standards. This does not reflect the world or the common person on the streets. YES! These images are damaging to our youth and even suggestive adults. It really amazes me that although " real women have curves" are hardly ever represented there rasing popularity is unquestioned! Just a thought but ,maybe just maybe if we stopped glorifying this popularity of prepubescent looking women on stage. It just might stop the fad of dressing little girls like street walkers and Walmart selling Brittney Spears starter kits.
indeed! I've been noticing a sudden decrease in the average little girl's attire. when I was 6, I wore pants, little tennis shoes, and a cute t-shirt. now, mothers want to dress their girls in mini skirts, knee high boots and halter tops. strange-in fact bothersome, since you'd think that both the early blossming age and the older attire together would have a nasty impact on our youth.
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Honestly, I can't figure out the obsession so many have with being skinny or why people hurt themselves to be that way. I am a size 2-6 (depending on the meal or time of month) and all my friends are size 10 and above. We embrace our differences and our beauty. I cringe each time anyone refers to themselves as "overweight" - to me, it's the size they are supposed to be. "Overweight??? means they are over society's "accepted" weight. It's the same when people dub me skinny or say I have a model physique-but by society's "accepted" for a model, I'm too short at 5'7.
I've been ridiculed all my life about my size so I don't see size when I meet people. Thin women are often viewed as stuck-up or snooty but in reality, most of us feel just as insecure or more so because we are not accepted by larger women and even hated. As long as we are healthy and wear things that are comfortable and flattering to our features we are beautiful as we are.
I'm jealous because I don't have curves and bumps- others hate themselves because they have them. None of us had a choice our genetic make up so how can anyone be so shallow to dub ???skinny??? model worthy and ???full figured??? not worthy? ALL women wear clothes so no one body type going to represent everyone. I would feel like a fool at 5'7 110 lbs showing a garment to a larger woman. It would be an insult- she wants to see her likeness not mine!! How is that fair or even practical?
I'm a regular woman, I want to wear regular clothes and I know I don't look like a supermodel (or I'd be one). Why can't we all be on the runway if we are all spending or money? We are not meant to be the same and if "we" are society...this is our wake up call and we REALLY need to wake up!
Seeing a certain body type of a model become popular in the industry should not be encouraging. What I mean is that people should not be looking to these pictures and shows for encouragement. That is all it is, really, images. Models do not go out and sell the clothes they wear, they just wear them. They put them on and have their pictures taken, or put them on and walk down a path. A mannequin can do half of that. Although, I think that if mannequins did come to replace models people would still complain. This is a problem with society today: people idolize others so much that they forget that they have themselves. There was a time when almost every kid could tell you who their idol was. They would tell you, "My Mom!" or "My dad!" This is because parents were involved, and families spent time together. Parents were parents, and relied on themselves to teach their kids how to be people. Now you see kids looked to magazines, television, and radio to tell them how to look, how to feel, how to live, or what's good or bad about them. Parents used to be teachers, used to be the biggest constants in their children's lives. Now they have to work, so their kids go to daycare. They have to stay late, so the babysitter needs to stay extra hours. They're off doing errands because this is the only time they have to do it, so the kid has to help themselves with homework. Parents aren't involved anymore, so kids are insecure with themselves. They don't have a constant fixture because their parents aren't there. I'm a high school student; I'm appalled at the behaviors of some of my classmates. They do things that are simply wrong, and when asked "What would your parents think?" or "Didn't your parents teach you better?" They snap back something like, "My parents don't care", "My parents don't know", or "It doesn't matter." This is simply outlandish. I can't imagine saying my parents don't matter or know; I want them to know. They know better than me and I can learn from them. Whatever happened to the expression moms have eyes in the back of their heads. And a parent not caring probably speaks for itself. -Continued-
So basically, kids are starting to look to unhealthy places for guidance. I don't live under a rock; MTV is entertaining. But I know the way those people live is frivolous and unrealistic. Girls who are barely women, or perhaps not even so, with twig-lick fingers and knobby knees are showing up as 'stunning' and then others who can???t go up a set of stairs without breathing hard denouncing them. There is a happy medium, there is balance. Parents need to step up to the plate and show their children this. If parents begin their kids on healthy lifestyles and stay with it all through their childhood and teenage years it is likely that these kids will maintain this lifestyle, as they won???t know anything different. It is, of course, important to expose kids to other things so that they aren???t shocked or go crazy with it once they???re out on their own, but kids who never learned to dislike vegetables or themselves probably aren???t going to go to college and decide they no longer enjoy healthy food just because someone else doesn???t. It???s not just about food, though, it???s about discipline, self-esteem, and activity too. Parents should teach their children to have the discipline to know when they are full and shouldn???t eat more cake or even carrots, just like they should have the discipline to say no to getting drunk the night before an exam. Parents should show their kids what it means to be comfortable with themselves, not just tell them. A mother who is telling her daughter she should not care what others think but then starts talking about how she (the mother) feels disgusting and like she needs to lose weight is inconsistent, and not setting an example. Life is about being happy and satisfied; we are our own ideals. And as for activity, it???s like diet (which doesn???t just mean a plan to lose weight, by the way). If a kid is active while they???re young and grow up active, they???re likely to be an active and healthy adult too. My parents were always active with us. There are four of us kids, so we also played soccer games. Both my parents ran and did things like crunches and push-ups to stay fit. When we asked they showed us how to do a push-up, but they didn???t force real exercise on us. They hid it in games and led by example. But now that we???re older we like to run and do crunches and push-ups. Maybe they???re not the best way to stay healthy, but it does work. That???s how our parents taught us, and that???s what works for us. We???re all healthy and fit. It may not work for another person, it may not work for a lot of people, but there are plenty of different ways to stay healthy. I???m positive that there are enough ways in the world to stay healthy to accommodate anyone, no matter their issue. It???s never too late to learn.
Oh, and as far as ???real people??? goes, it doesn???t matter the weight or health. Every person is a real person. From models to office workers to the elderly to babies, every human being is real. The ???real people as models??? thing is not new, and the term is rather ignorant in my opinion (which is just an opinion).
If models and movie stars fail to uphold an unattainable standard, maybe America won't buy all the junk products that promise to help us chase this standard. Our economy would collapse and social order would unravel! Unhappiness keeps us lurching forward.
complex thought for you, simple fickle point to me
W Magazine has been featuring editorial pages WITHOUT airbrushing/retouching - real models with freckles, moles, and a few wrinkles.... and the clothes still LOOK GREAT....I wish all magazines would do this...
that is spectacular! hopefully they aren't ridiculed for it, since the men here can be harsh.
Doesn't this make you want to buy that lingerie?
http://fatgrrl.com/wp-content/2007/04/kaileeosullivan_modelfat.jpg
Gah, I don't want to see the damn model, I want to see the CLOTHES! Models are 'stick thin and expressionless' for a reason- so they don't distract from the main event. This is just another pointless exercise in political correctness.
there you have it!!!!!!!!!!!!
the people who actually care about the clothes.
well put.
This so called change is just in the wishful thinking of big fat greedy over eaters across America.
That poor girl in the photos needs to cover those big long fat porky legs...Jeez
Thin will always be sexy whether its male or female models and fat can never ever be sexy, but only the opposite. We all have a choice in life. Do you want to be left at home alone in your apartment with a big pile of food, or do you want to be invited everywhere because you are beautifully thin and sexy and never be with out a lover? I will forsake that burger any day for some nice beaver instead!
there you have it -brainwashed by the industry.
so because you're thin, you get invited everywhere? interesting, usually money, success, clothes, and cars do this....
you are ignorant. also, not all Americans are overweight. it's one measley campaign. oh no. get over your spoiled, environment influenced attitude. you are the tool, and you will continue to support whatever the media tells you to.
now how much do you model? are you really tall with large breasts? then don't by a hypocrite.
variety poeple. it's allowed, if you're offended then you have been hiding behind superficial emotions for too long.
Maybe this will give a chance for designers who specialize in non-standard sizing a chance to shine. These designers are often overlooked because they don't use the typical 5'10", 110 lb fifteen year old. Maybe we'll see more petite, plus and petite-plus designers out there in the near future. Remember, people, the term "real people" includes those of us who're short and thin. We don't fit the "ideal beauty" look either!
indeed, and it's sad that it's compared to modeling like models are perfect and everone else isn't. that's the brainwashing of our media.
Drangonlady
I would think that if models that are more real life are contemplated, then as a rational choice they should be real life BUZT with a healthy BMI. That would address both concerns, don't you think?
Can we see some models that are under 5'9'' for a change? Talk about discrimination! I'm 5'4'' around 100 lbs and can't get an agent to look my way because of my height.
yes people, pay attention to THIS because it isn't just weight, it's height.
Keeping unhealthy overweight people off the cat walk will remind others that being fat is not ok. America is the most obese country in the world. Being loud and proud about weighing 200 pounds is ridiculous. It leads to diabetes, heart trouble, and bad circulation. Besides, who wants to be distracted by models? The clothes are the main event, that's why the models are thin and plain. So they won't distract from the clothes. Putting people that look like every day schlubs you see walking on the street is just another attempt at political correctness, which is severly misplaced in the world of fashion.
you are too greedy to see the big picture
regular women - not just fat ones, but short ones and mentally ill ones and skinny ones - are feeling better about themselves from a more realistic sense of beauty.
maybe you're ok with a nosejob, but a lot of women would prefer to have confidence in who they really are.
the fashion world is very diverse, btw. if you are referring to the new age form of fashion, you might be too old anyhow.
prada wasn't banned in America - a very miniscule advertising campaign is using more natural looking models. get over it.
If by "real people" they mean "models with flesh" then it's true, but still I see no blemishes, dimples, bruises, calouses, glasses, split ends, off-white teeth or shorties! That's still a long way from real.
why would u want to see a person with calouses, split end,and off-white teeth that is attractive and sad to say as "real" people we would buy these things if the person wearing them had these blemishes
I once wore large shirts. For the past several years I have bought medium. And, during sales there are lots of XL and XXL on the racks. Sizes for everyday people have shifted for the larger.
not quite....
it really depends on the place. the small are and have been catered too for decades.
a variety would be awesome. my problem is still - pants are small in the butt and huge in the waist.
fashion itself isn't perfect, nor are the models involved.
I've studied fashion, so I know the point of rail-thin models, as well as the obese model. It's all to do with the clothes themselves. Pure and simple. However, people misconstrue that they are selling the clothes and not the model, and people begin to want to have impossible looks that are not meant for them. People also want to take the model and say 'here, this is what women should look like' it's not true. Everyone comes in different shapes and sizes, and some women are curvier than others, as well as more over-weight. There was a time when that was what was considered beautiful, because the wide hips meant the girl was perfect for child-bearing.
I do not care how people view, I do not desire to follow societie's rather insipid rules. I will be me no matter what the 'norm' is considered. If I fit in with the crowd, okay, if not, oh well. Years of being made fun of has only made me defiant, not compliant. You tell me you think I'm ugly cause I am big, and I don't care, I'm more interested in proving to you that I am amazing and that people love me for me.
I agree once again with you. Besides I think normal is stupid anyway - who determines what's "normal"?
Exactly. Afterall, people act like obesity is a contagion. You'll get fat if you let people make me cool clothes. You're kids will get fat if they think that I'm beautiful. Ha! Please.
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