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I Am Woman, Hear Me Snore

In a new book, 30 female writers critique Hillary Clinton. Again. And again. And still miss the point.

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  • Posted By: texindie @ 03/09/2008 6:50:04 PM

    You can't understand why successful women have such Hillary hatred, then you're not trying to understand. These women struggle daily to keep their place in the world and to have Hillary turn on the tears when she is backed into a corner, or throw a hissy fit when challenged, or whine when she feels put upon slaps them in the face and cheapens their accomplishments. You can't compete in the world and world and expect to be treated equally and then turn on the feminine charm and expect special favors when things are going bad.
    SP

  • Posted By: Change is a verb not a platform @ 01/28/2008 11:26:38 PM

    TOP TEN LIST:
    What I learned when I turned off biased news networks like FOX/CNN/MSNBC.

    10. I actually like to watch movies on my big screen TV

    9. ???Change??? is what I find in pockets.

    8. I don???t have E.D.

    7. I don???t HAVE to argue about politics anymore.

    6. I realize I only have one vote, and it takes place in NOVEMBER.

    5. The ???noise??? left my head and peace filled the air.

    4. It is okay for someone I like to support someone I don???t like.

    3. Whoever wins the presidency is going to have a very difficult job, but they get a nice house.

    2. The loser will look younger then the winner in four years.

    1. When I turn off biased annoying arrogant newscasters, I hold the remote control and there is nothing they can say or sell to me, until I turn them back on.

    • Posted By: Jennifer72 @ 01/31/2008 9:16:47 PM

      I love this list!
      I am very tired of political coverage that is nothing more than a opinion yelling match. Op- Ed pieces need to start getting limited to the Op-ed pages.

      • Posted By: maverick 53 @ 02/14/2008 3:40:35 AM

        I love this list also!! A time and a place for everything and TV gives too much time to the whining candidates. Give me back my prime time tv!!

  • Posted By: neither red nor blue @ 01/29/2008 12:30:41 PM

    The unfortunate truth is that there are people who will vote for a candidate not because of substance but because of looks, because of gender, because of race. I am not one of those. I try to vote for a candidate of reputable character, from local office to national. At all levels there are individuals from both of the major parties who do not measure up; there are individuals who do. Hillary needs to separate herself from Bill -- like she tends to do in their "non-campaigning-for-office" life. There was a time that, agree or disagree with her, you knew where she stood on issues. Now she has become a major vascillator, like the other Clinton was. True leaders are not vascillators. They stick to principle.
    I do think that a book like this one, though, also shows a shallowness -- a shallowness on the part of writers AS WELL AS a shallowness on the part of their perceived audience. I would never buy this book, nor would I, out of curiosity, check it out of the library.

    • Posted By: maverick 53 @ 02/14/2008 3:35:48 AM

      I get so tired of hearing our well educated candidates yell and scream about how bad the other candidates are and the press digging our the dirt on each and everyone. Right now I don't like any of the candidates because sadly enough I am not sure what any of them beleive in beside getting a good head shot, with the correct apparel and kissing alot of ass. I sure hope they stop white washing, lying, playing the blame game and get their *** together. And I sure wouldn't vote for a woman just because she is a woman and I am a woman not would I vote black because I was black. Wait up America and vote for the best one for the office. Put aside the gender ans race and think seriously about what is best for our country and connect the candidate. At present time I am not sure who that is but I hope by November one of the candidates start teilling it like it is and stops white washing ,lying and slinging abuse at the other candidates and concentrates on the issues and what REALISTICALLY can be done to improve our country.

  • Posted By: kimmer1235 @ 02/13/2008 5:59:15 PM

    Comment: RebeccaT.
    No one, let me repeat: NO ONE, gets to the top of anywhere ???on their own!??? All of the men in our political system got where they are through networks in their parties. Why expect, or demand, that Hillary not? And until we (especially women) allow our female candidates to be at least as imperfect as our male candidates, we will end up continuing with the same mostly white male status quo that has been running our country up to this point. Want change? Get real! Get smart! Vote female! Vote Hillary!

  • Posted By: Deeplyconcerned @ 02/10/2008 5:24:12 PM

    Fortunately the writer Julia got the point. She appropriately recognized that these accomplished and "successful" women really don't like themselves. If you compare the first vital female presidential candidate to your mother and fifth grade teacher it reveals a lot about the writer and about our society. We have so few female authority figures that even intelligent educated women stoop to comparing a woman of authority to a despised teacher or troublesome mother. I couldn't imagine any woman or man for that matter comparing O'Bama, Bush, Romney, Huckabee, Edwards, or McCain to a grade school teacher or her father. As for me, I adored my mother. Hillary does not remind me of her at all. Hillary reminds me of Hillary. A one of a kind woman who has the characteristics of many successful politicians: brains, wit, education, finesse, shrewdness, and toughness. Her personality is not the issue. Shame on any woman who would criticize her for her choice of earrings or the timber of her voice. Her ability to communicate her ideas and to handle the most complicated job in the entire modern world is the issue. I do not agree with her on all issues either, especially how she handled the Iraq war. Yet I would never support a candidate for president that I know nothing about except that he is articulate, charismatic, and handsome. Did we all forget he has two years experience in national politics? O'Bama will definately get my vote. In eight years. When he has enough of a track record to make me feel comfortable with him handling the most powerful job in our nation. It seems women are still so ambivalent about themselves and their own image. One writer says Hillary is disliked for not crying and dieting in public. Would you like a president who crys and diets in public male or female? Strength is an overriding quality in a US President. I admire Hillary for her self-control. Why do we interpret this as "phoniness" simply because she is a woman? In the 1970s, the ERA was defeated by the lack of support of women. If we wonder why women are still hitting the glass ceiling, we have only to look inward. Women are holding themselves down by their own self-loathing and prejudice. Who is ridiculing Hillary for her wardrobe, figure, and marriage? Not men. They wouldn't dare. They don't need to anyway. Women are doing just fine at that job. And we wonder why we are still kept out of the White House, the Boardroom, the Stock Exchange. The more I hear about Hillary Haters and irrational criticism of her personal femininity, the more I root for her, support her, and contribute to her campaign. Thanks to the 30 women who dislike their own gender so much, they would inspire the rest of us to unify under sisterhood. As for me, I was on the fence about who to vote for. Now I know. I will vote for the most qualified and experienced candidate running.
    That would be Hillary.

  • Posted By: Gwyneth30 @ 02/08/2008 5:48:46 PM

    What is wrong with some of you people? Descriptions like "sociopath", "psychopath" and "b**ch"? By all means disagree with her policies, actions she did in the whitehouse as First Lady, or whatever. Hey, I even agree that she seems a little fake and disingenuous. But that is based on my perceptions without knowing her. Using words like the above mentioned is just too over-the-top for someone most of you have mostly likely never met personally. Perhaps it is some of you who have pathological tendencies to have such irrational hatred for someone you do not know.

  • Posted By: ladystir @ 02/06/2008 10:53:05 AM

    Go Hillary. It would be so nice for women to turn down the cattiness for once. I think Hillary will make a wonderful president. Just give her a chance. We need to remember that women need a chance. We are so unrepresented. Look at the numbers in the justice system, house of representative and senate. We are not represented. Men have excelled for too long on the backs and shoulders of women. We have cut our own throats because a man has charmed us one more time into betraying our own needs. Go Hillary. You can do it!

  • Posted By: AstridWinkeler @ 02/05/2008 10:29:29 AM

    You know - men are laughing about us. Here is a bright, successful candidate with a huge amount of experience. And we are talking about clothes, hair styles and whether we LIKE her or not.
    My experience from the corporate world is: Men stick together if it serves their purpose. Electing a female president would really serve the purpose of American women and women world-wide. But females do as always - picking on each other instead supporting one another.
    I would vote for Hillary Clinton if I could - but I am from Germany and so I will be watching from the sidelines.
    I really hope you will elect a great president!


  • Posted By: ombrahma @ 02/05/2008 8:32:00 AM

    Ms Rebecca T:
    "no one can deny that the party establishment support which made her into the front runner is almost exclusively due to the political clout accumulated by her husband".

    Give me a break. She went to the law school for herself by herself (wihtout Papa's help as Bush did). The establishment saw talent and promise in her only after she proved herself as an able senator. Hillary's husband is but a catalyst. But she has not hung on to him for senatorial power and accomplishment. And do no forget, Bill did not get to the White House without power of Hillary behind him. How many times you women have chosen the path of failure just because you failed to perceive a man in you life as a team member rather than shunning him for your juvenile and idiotic belief that women should acquire power, skill and success on her own (without a man?) Would you say the same thing if a woman had acquired power and prestige with the help of another woman? So, what is the difference? I cannot believe it that you have not allowed the attitudes and beleifs to mature that you probably formed when you were in highschool. How Nancy Pelosi? Do you think she could have made it so far without the help of "men"? Do you feel the same way about her as you feel about Hillary? Why not? If you can answer that question, I believe you may find an answer to your confusion.

    Do women think the White House should be the stage for Martha Stewart show? Read some of the articles and you will know what I am talking about.

  • Posted By: RebeccaT @ 02/05/2008 3:44:32 AM

    I think the problem here is because Hillary Clinton presents us with an enormous conflict. Many of us who have been feminists for decades always thought with joy of getting to see the first female President of the United States in our lifetime. It was the ultimate victory for our cause.

    At the same time, though, the candidate we got also was a little too close to the stereotype we had always despised: the woman who achieved a position of power through the man she was involved with. No one can deny that Hillary Clinton is an extremely smart, capable woman and she is probably one of the small percentage of women in this country who could actually handle the job of President. Unfortunately, no one can deny that the party establishment support which made her into the front runner is almost exclusively due to the political clout accumulated by her husband. Also, in addition to the women who are voting for her solely because she is a woman, an enormous part of her base are voting for her because they like her husband.

    Many of us have waited for this dream to come true, but we didn't want it to happen in just quite this way. We would have preferred a woman who had made it this far completely on her own - maybe with the support of a loving spouse, but not with the advance cache of power to be transferred. And we aren't sure if getting the presidency for our gender by someone so obviously dependent upon her husband's past and personality is actually more harmful for our cause than helpful.

  • Posted By: ombrahma @ 02/04/2008 11:16:53 PM

    Now I am curious:
    '1. How many of these women are Republicans?
    2. How many of them have changed husbands?
    3. How many of them have college education at their husband's expense?
    4.. How many of them are stuck in the bad relationship?
    5. How many of them are stuck in the bad relationship, but hanging on to their husbands for money (but wished Hillary would have left Bill)?
    6. How many of them were reminded of a fantasy date with a jock that turned out to be dud or left bad taste in their mouth by Bill Clinton when he was the candidate?
    7. How many of them still go to the corner bar to have fun at expense of the time they could spend with their children or grand children?
    8. How many of them have ego so big that they think no woman should be greater than them?
    9. Is belittling another woman a genetic trait?
    10. Are they raising their daughters to be cheerleaders and/or be subservient to men and/or be things to "vow" at (Texas Cheerleader Mom Complex)?
    11. How many of them are "Misery"seeking company?

    I attended a Republican gathering once. I saw women doing all the dirty work and dishes trying to be the sweetest and the cutest hostesses to all men. How many of these authors were at that gathering, I wonder?

  • Posted By: carmen63 @ 01/30/2008 4:33:34 PM

    I am a lawyer, woman, mother and wife and yes, I can't stand her. She has shown that she has used her knowledge to advance herself in shady transactions and investments even when her husband was governor and had enough money but it was not enough for her; she has stepped over people to get what she wanted; she set a cover up to protect her husband's escapades, campaigned to destroy the reputation of her husband's lovers, she doesn't look sincere, she twists arguments and distorts the truth misrepresenting what others say, she never acknowledges she makes a mistake, she is too arrogant for that...are these enoguh reasons?

    • Posted By: ombrahma @ 02/04/2008 8:53:23 PM

      Catholic complex. Holy Heysus. What hath Thee done to this repressed bambinis who want the whole world to turn into wimpy cuties?

  • Posted By: ombrahma @ 02/04/2008 8:07:01 PM

    IF HILLARY LOST TOMORROW BECAUSE WOMEN OPTED NOT TO VOTE FOR HER FOR THE REASONS STATED IN THEIR ARTICLE, I WILL CONCLUDE FOR ONCE AND FOR GOOD THAT WOMEN ARE THEMSELVES RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR SUBPIRME STATUS IN THE AMERICAN SCENE.

  • Posted By: ombrahma @ 02/04/2008 7:53:30 PM

    O MY GOD! What did I just read? Is this real? All the struggles and sufferings of the 1960s and 70s have filtered down to (what): self hatred? Hillary is not your mother. But she is somebody's daughter. She is paving a way for your daughters to achieve what they aim for. And you women think this is about sensuality, dresses, wardrobes, and hobbies? Here is the woman who has dreamed and pursued her ambitions. And you women have gall to trivialize it? How dare you? At least I know where will I look when I want a woman to iron my shirt. Pathetic. Just Pathetic.

  • Posted By: Calico Jordan @ 02/03/2008 7:47:05 PM

    I am ashamed if these women who commented in these essays about Hillary are representative of the feminine intellectual. Their comments actually remind me of high school mentality--petty. Who cares about "turquoise earrings with a yellow pantsuit" as long as Hillary governs with intelligence, wisdom, integrity, and experience? And, as far as Bill is concerned, she shows tremendous patience and tolerance--which is something we need more than ever now. There was a "First Father" of America--A.K.A. George Washington. Now, as my mother said, Hillary could very well be our "First Mother." If our country truly values the family unit, then isn???t the mother an integral part of the picture? But this isn't about sex or race...it's about experience, integrity, and direction. Hillary has all of these attributes. I feel that Arthur Schlesinger Jr. was spot-on in saying, ???why educated and professional women, otherwise intelligent and tolerant, are so unreasonably possessed by Hillary-hatred ??? I cannot extract a clear statement of why they all detest her.??? Jealousy, perhaps?

  • Posted By: Rinnovato @ 02/02/2008 8:05:10 AM

    QUESTION: Does Hillary's Health Care Plan cover SUICIDE PREVENTION in the United States Armed Forces????

    What no one is talking about is the impact of Hillary Clinton's lack of serious judgment. The Army has reported that 121 Soldiers committed Suicide, with over 2000 attempts in 2007. The stress of long tours in Iraq has forced some young men and women to take their own destiny in hand.

    Hillary voted for this war... why isnt she apologizing to all parents who lost their children, either by enemy fire, friendly fire or suicide? She would not admit that she failed in judgment. OBAMA knew the war was wrong, and there was no clear strategy for the U.S. to exit out of Iraq when the mission was completed.

    THE TRUTH is that Senator Dick Durbin admitted on the Senate Floor that members of the Intelligence Committee KNEW that President Bush and Dick Cheney were going to war on false pretences. John Edwards, who was on the Intelligence Committee at the time, voted for the war as well. You can watch at the following LINK the statement by Senator Dick Durbin: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyonYGeyFb4

    Some members of the Intelligence Committee voted AGAINST the War. Why wasnt Hillary's eyes open? She admits in the Senate that she SAW the Intelligence reports: WATCH HER HERE: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkS9y5t0tR0

    And on top of all these Suicides, McCain wants to keep them there for 100 years? If Iranians, Al Queda or the insurgents dont kill our troops, they will kill themselves. Not to mention that Al Queda was NEVER in Iraq before Bush, McCain and Clinton Invaded Iraq. But all three wanted Saddam Hussien out of Power and they wanted control of billions of dollars in Oil.

    SHAME ON HILLARY CLINTON! Part of Being President is being Accountable!!! Take responsibility for your vote to "Authorize Military Force on Iraq" and finally admit that you were WRONG!

    John McCain - This time you have left men behind... to die at their own hand.

  • Posted By: jen_in_cali @ 02/01/2008 10:55:04 PM

    Simple,Jealousy. I worked in an office with 9 women and when someone left the room, everyone starting talking about her. Women are petty and we will continue to be until we start thinking like the good ole boys. Everyone seems so sure that things are going to be the same. How can they be when we have never had a woman president. Just that fact in its self is a change. so until women grow up we will continue to lag and not be taken seriously.

  • Posted By: jen_in_cali @ 02/01/2008 10:14:18 PM

    Simple, Jealousy. I'm a woman and I've worked in an office with 9 women in it and let me tell you as soon as one left the room the others started in about her. Women are petty. If we all (women) like the good ole boys we would get ahead , but until then we will continue to shoot ourselves in the foot.

  • Posted By: j1ggy @ 02/01/2008 9:20:02 AM

    It is evident she is a good ole boy. She loves the masculine ideology. She is a man, father and husband of the Clinton family. The old established males of politics recognize her and respect her intellect and ability to play and compete at her level. The translation then is we get the same old stuff politically we have for the last 20 years; polarization. The pendulum will swing back to the left if she is elected. She doesn't represent change. Her election represents payback for the last 8 years of Bush administration. Bush, Clinton, Bush, ? same old song 4th verse.

  • Posted By: nurseratchetaz @ 02/01/2008 3:06:56 AM

    MEEEEEOOOOWWWWWWW! CHEEKY, CATTY FEMALES! HILLARY CLINTON WILL MAKE A GREAT PRESIDENT. WHO REALLY CARES WHAT SHE WEARS, OR IF SHE LIKES PETS, blah, blah, blah

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