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  • Posted By: quantumdiva @ 01/31/2008 6:54:14 PM

    In this time of a major transition in our world - when all of us must come together harmoniously it is clear that Wisdom is more important than "experience." Obama demonstrates the wisdom to look after the interests of all people, he is mature way beyond the childish power plays of not speaking to "enemy" countries, and he is intelligent enough to know how to have things like healthcare, education, energy, and economics actually work in new ways. He is a thinker for the present time necessary to transform the future. There is a reason younger people gravitate to him...he has vision and the heart and mind and wherewithal to actually go to the next octave of awareness and leadership in politics. It's time for all of us to wake up - to have our vote go for the best leader who is standing up for everyone's behalf - rather than vote the old way of automatic "no thinking" for the candidate who is closest in identity to you. Let's all get beyond the age and gender and race themes and listen for authentic leadership. That is clearly Obama.

  • Posted By: quantumdiva @ 01/31/2008 6:49:52 PM

    In this time of a major transition in our world - when all of us must come together harmoniously it is clear that Wisdom is more important than "experience." Obama demonstrates the wisdom to look out for the interests of all people, he is way beyond the childish power plays of not speaking to "enemy" countries, and he is intelligent enough to know how to have things like healthcare, education, energy, and economics work. He is a thinker for the present and the future. There is a reason younger people gravitate to him...he has vision and the heart and mind and wherewithal to actually go to the next octave of awareness and leadership in politics. It's time for all of us to wake up - to have our vote go for the best leader who is standing up for everyone's behalf - rather than vote the old way of automatic "no thinking" for the candidate who is closest in identity to you. Let's all get beyond the age and gender and race themes and listen for authentic leadership. That is clearly Obama.

  • Posted By: zarir @ 01/31/2008 6:47:07 PM

    wow! amazing article, the best one ever!!!

  • Posted By: multiple @ 01/31/2008 1:09:44 PM

    Is Obama???s Campaign or to the Kennedy???s. Media talks more about Kennedy???s.

    Who cares if Carolyn has inspired by Obama. I am glad not everybody thinks like her. She can keep her inspiration for herself.

    WITH A FRIENDS LIKE EDWARD KENNEDY I PREFER MY WORST ENEMIES?

    MRS. CLINTON IS THE COUNTRY BEST CHOICE.

    • Posted By: anton34 @ 01/31/2008 6:24:58 PM

      This is funny...Obama talks about dynasty and goes and sucks up to folks from earlier dynasty. The kennedy dynasty.hehehehe
      I loved Obama but no more he has turned into a power hungry, deperate politician just like the rest.

  • Posted By: Jennifer72 @ 01/31/2008 8:12:21 AM

    We had a president that ran based on being an outsider to the corrupt Washington politics. His name was Carter. Does everyone remember how bad the economy got back then?
    In his defense, he wasn't our worst president. But he never got the chance to be a great president. It takes more than being a good man to get things done in the White House. The president is not the great ???decider??? with the power to do just anything he wants, Bush???s stance on the universe notwithstanding.
    If Bush wasn't leaving such a mess, if Obama had more experience, if the republican candidate (McCain) didn't have the needed experience in spades.... I do not believe Obama can win in November.
    We need experience to clean up this mess. Someone who has proved they can get the Republicans to co-sponsor and pass legislation. We do not need an rookie outsider, we need a team building pro. That person is Hillary.

    • Posted By: dewcooper @ 01/31/2008 1:35:26 PM

      While Hillary was being such a political First Lady, the government shut down at least twice that I can remember. While she was first lady, she alienated her own party over socialized medicine and then Dems vowed not to work with her again. Most of the legislation that has been passed has been while she has been out campaigning and not in DC. As a Senator, she has done nothing but run for president. She lied about Bill while he was in office, and prior to the campaign. The only thing Hillary has agreed to do is raise taxes. Do we need that?

      • Posted By: Elderito @ 01/31/2008 5:43:56 PM

        Hey spinmaster, The govemanet shut down over budget disputes between Pres. Clinton and a recalcitrrant Republican Congress. The same boys who have approved every increase in the National Debt for thier boy Bush and hos war, while dogging Clinton on every penny spent. This durins an adminstration which actually reduced the National Debt, not like Bush who has increased it 60% or so

  • Posted By: Sissy Willis @ 01/31/2008 10:46:08 AM

    It seems to me the "Africa Airlift" was used by both Nixon and Kennedy for political reason. Why should you believe the spin of Kennedy over Nixon? Oh, I forgot, you're an "objective" member of the mainstream m

    • Posted By: Elderito @ 01/31/2008 5:35:34 PM

      Let us consider why anyone would believe Kennedy over Nixon? Watergate, the Eaglton psychiatrist break in? G. Gordon Liddy? Attorney General Mitchell? The Saturday Night Massacre? Christmas Bombing in Hanoi? The "Checkers speech"? if any of these items are missing from your recollection, or reading of history then you should readup and stay quiet.

  • Posted By: Change is a verb not a platform @ 01/31/2008 11:46:44 AM

    You know Caroline Kennedy wouldn't give me the time of day in real life. I do not give a rats ass about what this NY socialite, has to say about anything.

    • Posted By: jaymiller @ 01/31/2008 2:07:15 PM

      If you truly didn't give a rat's ass, why did you even bother reading the article and taking the time to comment on it? I'm also guessing your post would be different had Caroline put her support behind Hillary.

      • Posted By: Change is a verb not a platform @ 01/31/2008 5:00:23 PM

        I had noting better to do. Don't you ever take a break from your day? Or is this what you do for a living? -

  • Posted By: Change is a verb not a platform @ 01/31/2008 12:00:03 PM

    Bush and Obama were twins at birth. The both have that arrogance and condescending attitude that they are better then any of of you. BEWARE of what is behind the smooth talkers.

    Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power.

    - Abraham Lincoln

    • Posted By: 1sprigg @ 01/31/2008 12:10:10 PM

      smooth talker? Bush! Whoa. Makes you wonder .

      • Posted By: jaymiller @ 01/31/2008 2:10:20 PM

        First thing I think of when I think Dubya - smooth talker. Nothing like a guy with no understanding of basic grammar and an infamous propensity to butcher the English language to get the crowds swooning...

        • Posted By: Change is a verb not a platform @ 01/31/2008 4:56:04 PM

          "Smooth talking" was about "content"....as in telling everyone what they wanted to hear to get elected.

          That is exactly what Bush did in 2000. Obama's speech pattern is simplistic and haulting, Bush's is splisctic and dragging.

          And actually they are very similar in their elites attitudes. That come from the IVY league mentality

  • Posted By: stilts @ 01/30/2008 10:58:18 PM

    Billary authorized war, trying to look tough for selfish political reasons. Obama opposed it, and for all the right reasons --which he clearly expressed at the time. Stating, e.g., in 2002: "I know that even a successful war against Iraq will require a U.S. occupation of undetermined length, at undetermined cost, with undetermined consequences. I know that an invasion of Iraq without a clear rationale and without strong international support will only fan the flames of the Middle East, and encourage the worst, rather than the best, impulses of the Arab world, and strengthen the recruitment arm of al-Qaeda. ... I am not opposed to all wars. What I'm opposed to is a dumb war. What I am opposed to is a rash war. What I am opposed to is the cynical attempt by armchair, weekend warriors in this administration to shove their own ideological agendas down our throats, irrespective of the costs of lives lost and in hardships borne. ... A war based not on reason but on politics."

    • Posted By: Bhambelle @ 01/30/2008 11:21:42 PM

      What better way to play into McCain's hand than to focus on his opposition to the war in Iraq -- that will only inflame all those who want to claim his is a closet Muslim.

      It's about the economy dummy. It's about health care and social security and education.

      • Posted By: stilts @ 01/31/2008 4:52:03 PM

        Ah, sorry, it's about judgment, leadership, candor and decency.

  • Posted By: flamingo @ 01/31/2008 11:26:15 AM

    What indeed are the qualifications to be president? Honesty, integrity, intelligence, passion, compassion, a willingness to admit mistakes and repair them, a willingness to make hard decisions and stand firm behind them, the capacity for rational thought, the ability to assess the presence of those qualities in others and select them as advisors -- holding political office, running a large business, being an attorney, being the first lady -- none of these activities could possibly prepare one for the enormity of the position of president. Our current chief executive was considered a "highly qualified" candidate -- clearly his "qualifications" have not done him much good in dealing with a terrorist attack of appalling proportions, a subsequent questioned and unpopular deployment of American troops, and three years after Katrina an unconscionable lack of action in devastated New Orleans and surrounds. Perhaps it is time for someone without all that "experience."

    • Posted By: dewcooper @ 01/31/2008 1:46:43 PM

      Actually, the only qualifications for president is to have lived past your 35th birthday and to be born a US Citizen and not have a felony record.

      As far as 9/11, Obama thinks we should have done nothing and Hillary sat back in the WH and did nothing as al quida attacked us over and over again. As far as Katrina, it is the Govornor and Mayors of the areas responsibility to rebuild, not the presidents. Ever wonder what has happened to all of that money that was raised?

      As for Obama's honesty and integrity, why did he have to have his opponents divorce records unsealed in order to get elected? Why won't he release his log of who\when\which lobbyists paid him a visit? Why has he been close friends and business partner with an indited rackateer and influence peddler?

      • Posted By: jaymiller @ 01/31/2008 2:37:31 PM

        Right, Barack Obama had Jack Ryan's divorce records unsealed. This is a perfect example of the misinformation that opponents of Obama spew and only serves to discredit anything you say. Jack Ryan was married to Jeri Ryan - that's right, Jeri Ryan, of Star Trek Voyager and Boston Legal fame. Let's see - do you think the entertainment news media might have had an interest in figuring out why an actress and high profile politician got a divorce? And oh, by the way, Obama pulled in a ridiculous 70% of the vote for Fitzgerald's Senate seat - that's right , 70%. Sounds like a guy who needed to resort to dirty political tactics.

        • Posted By: dewcooper @ 01/31/2008 2:55:15 PM

          No one cared about the divorce in 2000, until they were unsealed in 2004 when Obama didn't have a prayer of winning. With Ryan 'discreditted' at the very last minute, there wasn't a viable candidate for the Reps to put up. That is the only reason obama grabbed 70%. Just think, a nobody still pulled 30% from him...

          • Posted By: jaymiller @ 01/31/2008 3:38:01 PM

            Didn't have a prayer of winning? What state do you live in? You realize Illinois is blue? You realize Obama blew away the competition in the democratic primary? Nice try trying to minimize the impact of 70% of the vote, but your spin here is pretty weak. Obama's Senate win was the largest margin of victory in Illinois history, and Keyes got votes because a lot of people punch Republican and call it a day when voting. You think that 30% of the people voted for Keyes because they knew him? A transplanted Easterner doing the Hillary thing and establishing residency in a state he has no business being in at the 11th hour so that he could run against him?

  • Posted By: eddiewhere @ 01/31/2008 1:31:59 AM

    WE owe a lot to the CLINTON's for what they did in the ninety's. THOSE were the BEST OF TIMES for the majority, RICH, MIDDLE CLASS and the least fortunate. Unfortunately scandal and nine eleven have overshadowed the CLINTON successes. I am voting for OBAMA because we need to overcome divisivness. We need our children to learn that working together to overcome obstacles is "the way to go". Racism, destroying individual character and being less than honest is a bad example to set for our children. THIS is why McCain and OBAMA would be the best candidates to represent America to the world and to our children. IF we allow our youth to learn that winning at all costs works, then we cannot complain in the FUTURE.
    WE HAVE TO SEND A MESSAGE.

    • Posted By: frjiles1 @ 01/31/2008 10:23:09 AM

      Eddiewhere -I totally agree with you, we NEED to send a messge that with all of the trouble this country is in we need someone in the White House who has shown that they KNOW how to run a country and as you just so eloquently stated, we owe the Clintons a lot for what they did in the 90's...............................
      .......and we NEED them to get back to prosperity we had!!!

      If anyone has shown they can do it, the Clinton's can!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GO HILLARY!!!

      • Posted By: dewcooper @ 01/31/2008 11:05:11 AM

        Yep, Hillary sure knew how to run the WH when she was co-presidnet: The Lincoln bedroom was always open (for a price), China's lobbyists were always welcome (especially if willing to swap cash for missle technology), al quida wasn't afraid of attacking us, Bill always had a date whenever Hillary had a headache, their cabinet took a 'world tour' at our expense, taxes were so high that they couldn't spend it all (Dems called this a 'surplus').

        Bring back Dem good ole days...

        • Posted By: frjiles1 @ 01/31/2008 1:01:31 PM

          The Clinton's cleaned up the economy when Bill came into office and it stayed that way during his term. That is what matters most and that is what we need now!

          Ok, he was a skirt chaser, so be it........however, .the skirt chaser knew how to run the country. And by the way,....no one is without sin and we all have skeletons.

          For me, it is not about the mudslinging, democratic or reublican it is about who you feel is most likely to have success in tackling the many problems this country is dealing with.

          I feel that Hillary Clinton is the best choice however, my second choice would be Ron Paul. Unfortuantely, he has very little to absolutely no chance of winning.

          • Posted By: dewcooper @ 01/31/2008 2:33:10 PM

            Clinton or Paul - what kind of bipolar meds are you on!?! Clinton did not clean-up the economy, he merely rode the wave created by GB,sr. Well, and tax the crap out of everyone for programs that all agree today don't work. And Bill was not a skirt chaser, he was an employer who sexually harrassed an intern. And Hillary lied about it all the way to the dry cleaners. The biggest problem we face is terrrorism, and Hillary showed while she was co-president, that she resolves terrorism by doing nothing. Yes, let's make her commander in chief!

            • Posted By: frjiles1 @ 01/31/2008 3:15:00 PM

              Bipolar Meds? Why do you have to take it to a level of insults? Can't we disagree maturely? Are you capable of that? Assuming you are an adult, let's act like adults ? We disagree, fine! Don't insult me. And by the way, Clinton CLEANED UP GB, Srs mess!

              And I am not even going to entertain your comments about Bill's sex life...........LET IT GO............are you jealous or something. What does his sex life have to do with anything and how is it personally affecting ?Is his sex life affecting the economy or terrorism? I want to add something else so badly I am not going to insult you, I am maturer than that!!

              You say the biggest problem is terrorism.....................well answer this.....how are you going to effectively fight off terrorist if your economy is on the brink of collapsing and you are in trillions of dollars in debt????

              The Economy is priority!!!!!! And yes, you heard me right..........I like Clinton and I agree with alot of points Paul has made........................and............SO WHAT??? .

  • Posted By: ericrsiny @ 01/31/2008 3:07:06 PM

    With the negative mail being dropped on Hillary on health care, NAFTA, Iraq and other things we now see what Obama is doing with all his money. What happened to the politics of hope and the pledge not to engage in political fights of the past? Obama is acting like all the things he claims to hate about politics and that is starting to turn people off. For backup documentation look at CNN and Politico.com.

  • Posted By: Jennifer72 @ 01/31/2008 8:31:57 AM

    To all the ones who personally and deeply hate Hillary. The year is 2008. The time for lumping all women into either the likable-ditsy or competent-bitchy categories is over. Women are truly not that one dimensional.
    As for the ones who think she is sneaky. Yes, she is a politician. If you think your politician is a saint...as opposed to her sinner. I have some ocean front property in Arizona I would like to sell you.

    • Posted By: jaymiller @ 01/31/2008 2:24:05 PM

      Although your comment is 100% true, I don't particularly enjoy being lumped into the "can't stand the thought of a woman in power" category simply because I support someone else. It's actually quite simple - I like Barack more than Hillary.

      • Posted By: Jennifer72 @ 01/31/2008 3:03:27 PM

        I did not lump you into any category. You did that yourself. You say you just like Barack more than Hillary. That is not the case this comment was addressing.

        It is the very personal, very emotional hatred of Hillary completely separate from a calm, rational, logical analysis of her political strengths and weaknesses that bothers me.

  • Posted By: multiple @ 01/31/2008 2:56:24 PM

    Yes, another PAGE IS OUT but for Edward Kennedy.

    HILLARY IS THE BEST CHOICE. Either you like or not Kennedy Dynasty.

    Sorry! I don't see any similarity with JFK.
    Yes, one thing in common was the way Obama and Kennedy, DELIVERED THE SPEECHES WRITTEN BY SOMEONE ELSE FOR THEM.

    If E. Kennedy is not helping HE SHOULD STEP BACK or do not say anything at all.

    OJO! (eye) If Obama wins the Democratic Party, HE IS GONE. It is no chance to win The Republicans.

    I totally agree on this comment: We owe a lot to the Clintons THOSE were the BEST OF TIMES for the majority, RICH, MIDDLE CLASS.

    I repeat HILLARY IS THE BEST CHOICE.

  • Posted By: michaelgoode @ 01/31/2008 1:12:04 PM

    Does anyone else find the time line interesting? The airlift was in August of 1960 and Obama was born in August of 1961. So his father made it over here entered college, met a woman got married and had a child all within 12 months. And to think after all this effort he bolts and goes back to Africa. Also interesting, read Obama's speech in Selma earlier this year, he attributes his birth to the marchers in Selma in 1965 but he would have be 4 by then. Sounds like politics as usual to me, yet everyone is still bashing the Clintons.

    • Posted By: apolemic @ 01/31/2008 1:19:04 PM

      Yes, clearly Barack Obama was carefully planning all of this while in utero.

      • Posted By: dewcooper @ 01/31/2008 1:25:20 PM

        Yet another page out of the Clinton manual. Didn't Hillary claim to be named after Sir Edmon Hillary, who did climb Evberest until she was4-5?

        • Posted By: michaelgoode @ 01/31/2008 1:39:00 PM

          I have no illiusions about Hillary she has her own skeletons, but don't tout "it's time for a change" retoric while "pulling your own page out of the Clinton manual".

          • Posted By: dewcooper @ 01/31/2008 2:50:01 PM

            My point is that Obama and Hillary are using the SAME book, pulling the same tricks.

  • Posted By: darkeknight @ 01/31/2008 1:51:39 PM

    Comment: Well I am glad Obama is fighting back. Its funny how Clinton is trying to sound like Obama when the shoe is on the other foot, speaking about "coming together and unity." It is a little to late with her negative history or should I say "experience." JFK was president at age 43, Bill Clinton president at 46, and Obama would be at 47. Pundits admit that Clinton and Obama are very much alike on the issues. The real things that separate them are how they carry themselves and what they are willing to do to win. Only the blind loyalist couldn't see past Clinton's schemes and rhetoric. Its ok not to like Obama, but don't say its because of experience, or not knowing where he stands. People who say that are just like the Clintons... dishonest

    • Posted By: frjiles1 @ 01/31/2008 2:44:50 PM

      How can you say Obama is fighting back? What is he fighting back to? The Clinton's didn't start the mudslinging, the press only tried to turn voters off by continuously misrepresenting EVERY thing the Clinton's said and did and in most cases, they were defending themselves or what they said was taken totally out of context. Did you noticed that the press played Obama as the victim when he threw the first punch?!

      You are so totally correct, they do carry themselves very differently...the Clinton's congratulated Obama on his SC win and Obama called Clinton's MASSIVE win in Florida a "Beauty Pageant. And pointed out how their votes don't count. Very becoming of a Presidential nominee who if elected will also govern a state who's citizen's votes you referred to as a "beauty pageant"

      Also, he and his advisors need to have a talk. Because according to Obama, in reference to the snub incident, he stated that it wasn't, snubbing her he was turning to talk to someone else. The advisor told an entirely different story.

      Lastly, other than the debate in SC, I can not recall where Clinton had extreme negative comments about Obama (and I wouldn'l call the comments during the debates extreme especially since Obama attacked her FIRST). But have you listened to or read Obama's last speech, he said some terrible things in reference to her.

      So please tell me again, how in the world is Obama fighting back?! And who is being a bling loyyalist?

  • Posted By: Midnte_rein @ 01/31/2008 2:11:08 PM

    Caroline was just a baby during the "Kennedy Years" She has no more knowledge than the rest of us on what JFK stood for. Her opinion has no weight with me. I am just glad she has the freedom to still speak her opinion in public.

    • Posted By: jaymiller @ 01/31/2008 2:41:38 PM

      Shame on you for your ridiculous comment. The woman lost her father as a child and has endured countless tragedies in her life. How dare you suggest that you somehow have as much insight into the woman's father as she does. You should be ashamed of yourself.

  • Posted By: Igloo @ 01/31/2008 2:33:21 AM

    Jonathan Alter really!! - the Obama's and Kennedy's do have the swooning press in their pocket don't they? Didn't the Kennedy's spin the one about Camelot. That is all nice and everything. I am sure that should help Obama. He is really a nice man and they want to help him. They do tell nice tales though that the press is ready to suck up. (The press has not been so kind to the Clintons' or the other candidates however because they come from average American families who had to work hard for everything in life).
    Why can't you guys for once write a nice tale about other candidates who are in the race and not just about the Kennedy's... (Looks like Kennedy is Obama's co-president??) May be the story line can be something like this - There is a big gap between the Kennedy's and the common man. There is also a big gap between the Kennedy's and the Clinton's. Caroline Kennedy and all the Kennedy's for that matter were born with silver spoon in her/his mouth and therefore all they have to do is spin a tale and the press spins with them. In contrast Hillary Clinton was raised in a middle class family and Bill Clinton was raised by a single mother who worked as a nurse. Where they are today is all due to their very hard work. If anything they have faced obstacles throughout their long career. But that merits nothing. In contrast Caroline Kennedy - the fairy god mother who has not achieved anything in life except for being born with the Kennedy name and wealth gets to endorse a candidate and the whole world swoons and spins primarily the press............

    • Posted By: wyl5326 @ 01/31/2008 10:00:16 AM

      The Clintons have been actually trying to emulate the Kennedys and be adored like the Kennedys . That is why Hillary was sucking up to Jackie when she was still alive and it was they who sought out the Kennedys as if by continuous rubbing elbows with them will rub the Kennedy mystique to them. I don't consider the Kennedys that great, but your comments is just pure sour grapes after your beloved Hill got dished by the kennedys.

      • Posted By: Igloo @ 01/31/2008 11:05:10 AM

        I like both Obama and Hillary (as well as JFK) and if you read my earlier comments you can see that. But Kennedy's are very adept at spinning a tale which the spinning press is very good at picking and spinning it for them. Sour grapes surely - at the press! (The press has been swooning over Obama and the Kennedy's. The worst offenders are CNN and MSNBC so much so that FOX (yikes!!!) is turning out to be an alternative.)
        Clintons' on their own have achieved more than the Kennedy's have ever done. They worked hard for it against great odds (like all Americans). No Kennedy tale there. Of course the Clintons were (are - did you see the hand shake during the Bush's 2008 State of the Union address) friends with the Kennedy's. It is the Kennedy's who have an attitude.Caroline has forgotton a friend who stood by them during a family crisis. With friends like these......
        That's why I think Obama has to worry about the Kennedy bear hug. Kennedy's will have a bigger role in Obama presidency than anybody thinks. Remember uncle Teddy is trying to get through Obama what he could not do on his own.

        • Posted By: dewcooper @ 01/31/2008 2:27:51 PM

          Maybe Ted can take them ALL on a moon lit drive...

  • Posted By: multiple @ 01/31/2008 2:13:47 PM

    Be aware what is behind this Stranger endorsement of Kennedy to Obama.

    Kennedy/Obama, underestimate Latinos after what E. K has done to a friend.
    Do you think somebody with a sense of loyalty would listen to either one?




  • Posted By: jimtranr @ 01/30/2008 10:11:41 PM

    Warm fluff piece, Jonathan, but you're capable of a lot better. The quality of this article and so much of the news coverage these days embodies all I've seen and heard thus far from the Obama campaign--a lot of sound and fuzzy signifying not much. Obama has real problems, particularly his history in Illinois, if not in intent, certainly in terms of the surprisingly poor judgment exercised by a onetime head of the Harvard Law Review. That's why Senator Kennedy's "he'll be ready on Day One" rings so hollow. And why his niece's well-meaning endorsement doesn't merit my consideration.

    • Posted By: wmiller37 @ 01/31/2008 2:10:59 PM

      Mr. Bhambelle, I have read your comments, and although I do not always agree with you views, I respected your opinions and your right to express them. As for the latter, I still do.

      However, it seemed that you inadvertently revealed another, unacceptable, side of your discourse when you suggested that Mr. Obama was a Muslim who converted to Christianity. Numerous articles, blogs, emails, editorials, and reporters visiting his schools, have extensively reported that there is no evidence that Mr. Obama was ever a Muslim. (You imply that being a Muslim is something sinister, but that is another issue)

      Of course, you may subscribe to the theory that because Mr. Obama???s father was (or may have been) a Muslim that religion is a genetic characteristic that is passed on to a parent???s offspring. Well, I do not think there is any proof of that.

      As Americans, we have an obligation to support a candidate of choice; we do not have an obligation to use the political forum to spew our petty biases, hatred, arrogance and ignorance.

      But then, why not? What makes the political forum so sacred? Perhaps it serves a useful purpose beyond politics, in that it allows us to vent our frustrations and insecurities in a way that does not threaten the fabric of society.

      Too much of the political debate is not about politics at all, but about our own perceive or actual weaknesses and inadequacies. Not enough of the discourse is about our longing for something good and pure in American life???for too many of us, politics is not about hope and charity, but about using it as a tool to bludgeon our perceived enemies.

      So, as we read each other???s comments, remember that our comments and discourses speak not so much to the candidates or the issues, but to our own hopes, desires, fears, and the stresses of daily life. And perhaps, after all, this is a good thing.

    • Posted By: wmiller37 @ 01/31/2008 2:10:41 PM

      Mr. Bhambelle, I have read your comments, and although I do not always agree with you views, I respected your opinions and your right to express them. As for the latter, I still do.

      However, it seemed that you inadvertently revealed another, unacceptable, side of your discourse when you suggested that Mr. Obama was a Muslim who converted to Christianity. Numerous articles, blogs, emails, editorials, and reporters visiting his schools, have extensively reported that there is no evidence that Mr. Obama was ever a Muslim. (You imply that being a Muslim is something sinister, but that is another issue)

      Of course, you may subscribe to the theory that because Mr. Obama???s father was (or may have been) a Muslim that religion is a genetic characteristic that is passed on to a parent???s offspring. Well, I do not think there is any proof of that.

      As Americans, we have an obligation to support a candidate of choice; we do not have an obligation to use the political forum to spew our petty biases, hatred, arrogance and ignorance.

      But then, why not? What makes the political forum so sacred? Perhaps it serves a useful purpose beyond politics, in that it allows us to vent our frustrations and insecurities in a way that does not threaten the fabric of society.

      Too much of the political debate is not about politics at all, but about our own perceive or actual weaknesses and inadequacies. Not enough of the discourse is about our longing for something good and pure in American life???for too many of us, politics is not about hope and charity, but about using it as a tool to bludgeon our perceived enemies.

      So, as we read each other???s comments, remember that our comments and discourses speak not so much to the candidates or the issues, but to our own hopes, desires, fears, and the stresses of daily life. And perhaps, after all, this is a good thing.

    • Posted By: wmiller37 @ 01/31/2008 2:10:27 PM

      Mr. Bhambelle, I have read your comments, and although I do not always agree with you views, I respected your opinions and your right to express them. As for the latter, I still do.

      However, it seemed that you inadvertently revealed another, unacceptable, side of your discourse when you suggested that Mr. Obama was a Muslim who converted to Christianity. Numerous articles, blogs, emails, editorials, and reporters visiting his schools, have extensively reported that there is no evidence that Mr. Obama was ever a Muslim. (You imply that being a Muslim is something sinister, but that is another issue)

      Of course, you may subscribe to the theory that because Mr. Obama???s father was (or may have been) a Muslim that religion is a genetic characteristic that is passed on to a parent???s offspring. Well, I do not think there is any proof of that.

      As Americans, we have an obligation to support a candidate of choice; we do not have an obligation to use the political forum to spew our petty biases, hatred, arrogance and ignorance.

      But then, why not? What makes the political forum so sacred? Perhaps it serves a useful purpose beyond politics, in that it allows us to vent our frustrations and insecurities in a way that does not threaten the fabric of society.

      Too much of the political debate is not about politics at all, but about our own perceive or actual weaknesses and inadequacies. Not enough of the discourse is about our longing for something good and pure in American life???for too many of us, politics is not about hope and charity, but about using it as a tool to bludgeon our perceived enemies.

      So, as we read each other???s comments, remember that our comments and discourses speak not so much to the candidates or the issues, but to our own hopes, desires, fears, and the stresses of daily life. And perhaps, after all, this is a good thing.

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