obama sucks. go hillary.
obama sucks. go hillary.
I don't know about the rest of you but I personally think that Clinton blames everyone else on their faults or negative traits, especially Mr. Bush. If i were her I would focus on promoting myself, people don't want to hear you fight or diss others. i thought her comment of it took a Clinton to clean up after the first Bush and its going to take another to clean up the second Bush, was very rude. Honestly im not sure if America is ready for someone like HER to be the president.
McCain is highly thought of -- so claiming that Obami is more decent, is false. He lacks gravitas, and in the end, people will go for McCain. In a Clinton general election, she can raise her positives easily. She has gravitas, and she can aim more bipartisan.
I usually agree -- 98% with anything Eleanor says -- but I still believe that Barack Obama lacks gravitas, and that in a general election, he's going to get pounded, allowing another 8 years of horrible republicans in the executive branch with their dismal views of life as we know it, dominating everything. Clinton who is far more sophisticated has to kick her husband out of the picture. He has to go back to his charitable work. It's essential to her chances in a General Election. And even with her high negatives -- she can STILL win a presidency. That is meaningless guff. Presidents go through several near death experiences because of popularity or nonpopularity ratings, and so can candidates.
Are you serious? You begin your final paragraph by saying that Hillary 's election would insure the continuation of teh attack-and-divde politics that distinguish the Bush-Rove era," but you end the same paragraph by concluding "the party and the country can't lose" with either of these candidates? The country and the Democratic Party most assuredly can lose if we nominate and elect the "attack-and-divide" politics of the current administration. Even so, if the choice is, as you seem to describe it, a no-lose proposition, why not cast your lot with the one with the bigger upside potential--the one with the opportunity to unite the country and grow the Democratic Party? The choice ought not be nearly as difficult as you suggest: Barack Obama is clearly the better candidate for our party and for our nation.
I disagree with you. I think the Republicans would prefer to run against Hillary, with good reason. As some others have pointed out, she brings a lot of baggage, and I think the GOP's opposition research people, along with a handful of investigative reporters, are digging around in the Clinton Library donor list (if they can get it), and the report about the Kazahkstan unranium deal is a good example of what's out there. There are also some 3 million pages of health-care-reform records from the Clinton Administration that Bill may be forced to release before it's over. You can be sure, there's more dirt to come.
What's more, I don't think merely "taming" Bill Clinton is enough after the SC spectacle. The curtain was pulled back, so to speak, and the spectre of a co-presidency and an ex-president with an outsize, uncontrollable ego was revealed. Just because the curtain has been closed doesn't mean that what's behind it has changed.
True, they were both very good last night, but Hillary usually is. Obama, on the other hand, started out poorly but has gotten better with each debate, and last night was his best ever (did the nastiness in SC sharpen him up a bit?). He was crisp, succinct, and overall held his own and even scored some points on Iraq. And I think every time he's side by side with Hillary and he is at least as good as she is, or better, he wins.
Obambi will beat McCain because , Obambi is a decent human being . Obambi will lose to Hillary the beast because he is a decent human being . What is wrong with you democrats ?
America will be better with Democrats. Republicans drove the US to a senseless crisis and warfare.
We should follow the Democrats lead, like when the USS Cole was attacked, and just look the other way?!?
Of course you're right. We should have followed the republican model and focused on Monica Lewinski, and Ken Starr while the terrorist pot came to a boil.
The USS Cole was a suicide bombing. What were we supposed to do, kill the already-dead perpetrators?
Obama will lose to mccain in november, plain and simple. Hillary is for universal health care, obama is not.
I too like both Obama and Clinton. However, it is shaping up to look as though McCain will get the Republican nomination. Plain and simple, I think Obama beats McCain in November, and I think Hillary loses to McCain in November. I believe it would be a tactical mistake on the part of the Democrats not to nominate Obama.
Both Clinton and Obama will I'm sure defend us against our enemies. Only Obama will "Bind up the Nation's wounds", and unite us. Hillary, despite her best intentions, will unite the rightwingers, and bring back the hate. I'm a 64 year old white guy from S.C., who supported John McCain in 2000.
"We're all winners!"
Isn't that the motto of our nation now, so that no one gets hurt feelings. What a pathetic article!!
Vote Libertarian!!!
MyDD :: memo of obama race baiting
http://mydd.com/story/2008/1/12/12428/8236
"Most Americans need a president???not everybody, probably not the two of you," she said to me and her press secretary. ???So you are free to vote on a feeling, on a speech, on a debate, you can vote any way you want. But if you???re on the brink of falling out of the middle class, if you???re worried about health care, home foreclosures, and all these other problems, you need a president that you really can believe in and count on to deliver." - Hillary Clinton
These are exactly the types of posts that drive Obama supporters away from Hillary in droves. Both candidates have staff that is passionate about them (remember the very wrong and very misleading mailer sent by the Clinton campaign to New Hampshire women suggesting that Obama was soft on women's rights despite the fact that he voted the way he was asked to by Planned Parenthood EVERY TIME?). I just don't understand why supporters of Hillary can't just focus on her positives - there are many, but they get really clouded by her overly visible husband and supporters that seem more intent on pigeonholing Obama as the race baiting "Black candidiate".
when they both play nice, guess who wins--the nice guy!!!
The caveats I have in regard to a combined Clinton-Obama/Obama-Clinton ticket are these:
1) Hillary Clinton will not stand to be anyone's second-banana. I am not saying this as a criticism, I am saying it as an understandable quality of the wife of a former president ambitious to put her stamp on the Clinton legacy. Not to mention that, if the ticket is a successful, two-term administration, HRC would be 68 before she could run again in her own right.
2) Any VP in a HRC administration will be sidelined immediately by Bill Clinton. This will happen, because Biil's desire to get back to shaping policy is starkly palpable, and as he has shown , he is a force almost impossible to contain. He will become her de facto VP, and the running mate will be relegated to redecorating and the opening of shopping malls.
Running this country isn't a contest of one-liners. Bush proved that. You want a comedian or a wit in Washington, look up Seinfield . That's why these debates are useless. The day after , columnists revel in all the little jibes and declare the one with the best retort, the winner. What winner ? They make this a contest , much like a sport. Obama's problem is he has no past and no accomplishments. Clinton's is that she has too much past, no accomplishments , and too many dodges . From the days of the Rose law firm , to her tap dancing during the vote on the war in May, 2007 , she proves she will say and do anything to get Willie back in power. No sense them getting down to the issues, they won't make good on any of their promises anyway.
Ted kennedy is a loser, though. No one should base their decision on what some drunk thinks.
Hillary is best prepared to fix our economy.
In Los Angeles, among their own party members, both would make a winning candidate. But only Obama can win in November because Hillary simply carries too much old baggage. Ted Kennedy wants his party to win. He has done the math -- that's why he now supports Obama.
I think hillary's stance on the economy and health care were great and this is why i will be voting for her on super tuesday. We need a better economy, cheap gas prices, and universal health care. These are all issues that i dont think obama can top.
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