Happiness: Enough Already

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  • Posted By: Octavius @ 02/12/2008 5:34:09 PM

    this article doesn't even bring up what people see as their meaning of life and neither does it bring up Jesus, it's talking about how our society is undermining the natural human feelings of sadness and first, classifying them as wrong and then telling us that drugs and forced happiness are the answer. while it is a goal for most people to be happy, people are also meant to be sad in life, that's what makes us human! that we can coherently express our emotions, thoughts and feelings as well as feel for and experience these things with others. there is no need to bring religous beliefs into it, everyone feels sadness, just because some guys in the Bible got their sorrow published for all to read does not make their troubles any more or less important than anyone elses

    • Posted By: Trevortni @ 02/12/2008 6:14:07 PM

      You're right. The article didn't mention Jesus. I did.
      It seems only natural, seeing as the Bible has so much to say on the subject.

  • Posted By: AGB2 @ 02/12/2008 6:13:41 PM

    I agree with the authors on this. I work with a woman who was recently diagnosed with breast cancer. I watch her go about her daily routine, trying to cope with the disease and the effects of the treatments. She tries to act upbeat and cheerful through it all and I just kind of shake my head. I don't understand how we've gotten to the point in our society that it is more important to be thought of as being "professional" or "a team player" than it is to be seen as a person with a whole range of emotions and thoughts. Another friend at work's physician recently tried to put her on Prozac after she went in complaining about ongoing pain in her hands. Treating arthritis with Prozac??? We are real people with real pains and real bummers, at times. When we realize this, treat the problems, cry about them a little bit, then get over them, that's when we experience true happiness.

  • Posted By: Octavius @ 02/12/2008 5:23:30 PM

    this is what i've been thinking!!! all my friends are constantly telling me " oh my therapist gave me some depression medication" or " i've been diagnosed with depression" and they're teenagers! they're moody! their " depression" is clearly not due to any particular or normally pain causing situation, it's just something they're going through because of their age, that's normal. sadly, i think teenagers are the demographic that are most being misdiagnosed because their parents are so concerned that they are not acting like the child they used to be and are being bombarded by all of these media sources telling them that any kind of sadness means that their child is depressed and naturally what do parents what to do for their children? help them and make it all better. Sadness is normal and should be expressed in a healthy way, not treated automatically with any or all drugs available. this article doesn't lack compassion or comfort, it simply states the truth and is an incredibly accurate comment on our situation as a society

  • Posted By: ranoneh2008 @ 02/12/2008 5:20:36 PM

    wow!..that is absolutely right...americans are self torturing themselves with the idea that sadness is not an option in this world., ias if a its the person responsibility to prevent such condition of sadness and they are being critical an unaccepting of normal sadness reaction of other people...people have the right to be sad and to emerge out of it on thier term without a blame...this article is eye opening to tolerate peoples sadness and thier situation and embrace that great emotional aspect in human beings....thank you, rania

  • Posted By: dafaolta @ 02/12/2008 5:18:14 PM

    Talk about missing the point! It isn't that despair is a good thing. There is nothing in the article saying that. The point they are trying to make is that being sad, which is different than despairing, is a natural part of our emotional make up as humans. This article speaks to a problem we are creating by insisting that everyone who does not feel completely happy is a candidate for medication.

  • Posted By: macbeth05 @ 02/12/2008 5:15:42 PM

    The article's point of view is not meant to be seen as absolute truth or false. An individuals' ability to feel and deal with sadness, sorrow and depression varies. What is necessary and/or works for some people, medication and/or therapy, may not be the best solution or the first solution to consider for others. Suffering is a retrospective time to evaluate and progress through complex emotions. Some should wrestle with it.

  • Posted By: hartman_john @ 02/10/2008 10:22:07 AM

    I couldn't agree more. Disappointment, disillusionment, cynicism and scepticism are crucial to survival. The Happy Crowd want everyone to think that the cup is half-full. In reality, the cup is a mythology that belies reality. Sadness, depression and broken hearts build character and help steel the character against the inevitable assaults that bombard one daily. The Pollyannish view is a set up for failure. Gloom, doom and the immanence of death and destruction will lead us to the Promised Land. That is why it is so amazing that so many are buying into the "Rose Colored Glasses" phenomenon that is Barak Obama. Better the dark cynicism of Hillary Clinton, a candidate who knows the grim reality of the world and is ready to accept it and move on. With folks like Putin and Sarkozy and those upbeat African leaders in Sudan and Chad and Nigeria, good time are NOT on the horizon. Better to be ready for the rising oceans, the filthy, unbreathable air and the inevitability of homo sapiens demise. Better to be in front of the fan than behind it when the crap hits.

    • Posted By: BORN IN 1938 @ 02/12/2008 4:51:17 PM

      BOY-YOU NEED HELP! DISPAIR DOES NOT HELP ANYONE!
      HAVE YOU NO FAITH IN ANYTHING? OR ANYONE?
      OR YOURSELF?

    • Posted By: BORN IN 1938 @ 02/12/2008 4:51:00 PM

      BOY-YOU NEED HELP! DISPAIR DOES NOT HELP ANYONE!
      HAVE YOU NO FAITH IN ANYTHING? OR ANYONE?
      OR YOURSELF?

  • Posted By: Happy Girl @ 02/12/2008 4:26:16 PM

    As someone who suffers from clinical depression, my life would be (and was) a mess if it weren't for Paxil twice a day. Too much of anything is never good

  • Posted By: Kurik @ 02/12/2008 4:17:09 PM

    As I was telling a friend recently: We all should know this but alas..."EVERYTHING IN MODERATION" or "TOO MUCH OF ANYTHING IS NOT GOOD FOR YOU"

    Hmm....covered most of what the fellow said in so few words... ;-)

  • Posted By: Kurik @ 02/12/2008 4:13:09 PM

    As I told a friend: what all of this is pretty much highlighting is what we all know or should know......"EVERYTHING IN MODERATION" or "TOO MUCH OF ANYTHING ISN'T GOOD FOR YOU"......

  • Posted By: manos69 @ 02/12/2008 2:24:42 PM

    Thank God someone is coming to their senses.Being constantly happy is not only a detriment to ones life but it masks reality. Things in normal everyday life are not always happy and rosy. A little unhappiness or emotional pain allows a person to be more introspective and to figure out how to handle, deal with and hopefully come up with a solution. Anyone who is constantly happy will eventually have to deal with reality.

    • Posted By: radical guy @ 02/12/2008 3:39:18 PM

      reality is perceptional.

  • Posted By: adishakti @ 02/12/2008 2:59:34 PM

    This article has fallen on the same black hole it tried to fight to begin with. In order to accuse "extreme" unreasonable happiness it exhults unreasonable hopelesness. Happiness is not an end in itself, and should not be confused with the state of idiotic ignorance of the polyanish sector of new age that hangs on to that flag as it could have to the defense of penguins or pest free tomatoes without any thought. Hapiness is rather a by-product of doing what you are meant to be doing, of putting meaning into your life, of moving forward. The falty logic in this article mentions Lincoln's bouts of depression as his motor....what evidence supports that? How much more productive and energetic coluld he have been "without" those dark episodes? Who can say with no doubt that sadness was a motor and not a heavy weight he struggled against?
    Questioning the status quo, striving for a better life, that is not a consequence of sadness. On the contrary, sadness is, in most cases, associated with hopelesness, and a hopeless person finds no incentive to attempt to change because he or she believes it's worthless, such is the very essence of hopelesness. A happy person is not necessarily content. Rather, a happy person is one that has the capacity to accept reality as it is, and that is a great starting point for improvement. Positive thinking is not equal to believing in Santa or chanting with the Hare Krishna (May G'd bless them, no ofense meant). Positive thinking is tied to confidence in our free will and our responsibility to produce change.
    Being sad after the death of a loved one is a healthy reaction, and mentioning that is a punch under the belt in this article. That, of course, doesn't turn you into an unhappy person unless you were one to begin with.
    So, guys, come on, please give me something with a little more substance. This looks like an article written to get some space in the media by attacking, like the Salieri's that find it easier to critizise Mozzart's than to excell.

  • Posted By: litehope @ 02/12/2008 2:31:15 PM

    Is being successful really what we should all strive for? And if so, who decides what the meaning of "success" is? For one person, having a purely, blissfully happy life might be thier version of success, while another person might think a successful life ends with retirement from thier position as CEO from a Fortune 500 company. It's all so subjective.

  • Posted By: lifbri122 @ 02/12/2008 9:23:49 AM

    I have an expression that I have been using quite often in the two years years since my marriage has ended and divorce proceedings have been ongoing: "Happiness is overrated"
    A spouse telling you that he/she is ending a marriage because they"re "not happy" is the ultimate cop-out. Where did people get this idea that they were entitled to happiness 24/7? There are pressures & responsibilities and stressful events that are part of everyday life. If doing the right things takes away from your personal happiness - Too bad! We all need to take a look back at the not too distant past to the generation that came through a depression and a world war without complaining about it. You know what? They were too busy fighting for freedom and keeping food on the table for their families to worry about their "happiness".

    • Posted By: ljbebon21 @ 02/12/2008 2:21:54 PM

      I totally agree with this comment.

  • Posted By: ABig10q @ 02/12/2008 8:49:19 AM

    I love this article! I???ve suffered 3 separate bouts of Clinical depression. It took time, but I got myself out of the first two, without professional help. During the 3rd (and by far the most severe), I followed the recommended advice of psychiatrists, councilors, family, and friends. I took the recommended pills (5 different antidepressants- 4 with no effect and 1 that made me worse, did the recommended work (shared openly and honestly with my councilors and psychiatrist, read the books, exercised, changed my diet, kept a journal, went to art therapy, made new acquaintances, pushed myself to smile when I felt like crying, tried meditation, deep breathing, forced myself to attend to the minutia of life, etc.) Guess what I learned about my depression? Not much, because all that was wrong with me, stemmed from my having a normal reaction to a great many very disturbing circumstances that just happened to all take place in close temporal proximity to one another. People treated me as if I ought to be happier, and should take pills to stop making mountain out of molehills. But grieving over loss of a parent, a pet, multiple instances of familial cancer, physical sexual and emotional abuse and betrayal from a former fiance/best friend- following a life changing injury and the resultant loss of income, loss of mobility and independence, having been assaulted once, robbed 4 times in less than 2 years, and faced with no resolution via the legal system in any of those cases(so far), having had my home damaged by a former friend going through his own tough times- all these things I could handle- I just couldn???t handle them ALL in such a short span of time, without at least some support from people I trusted. Yet these were the cards I was dealt, and the seeds of my inability to consistently put on a happy face. I am still not whistling a happy tune, but I am doing better. I got closer to God, became more creative, and more appreciative of what I have, but not thanks to the medical community or to those who urged me to just get over it and be happy already. I have gratitude for all the reaching and improving my sadness has inspired me to embark upon. Sure, I'd like to be happy, but not at the cost of a blinding stagnation that comes from too much contentment. Balance is the key.

    • Posted By: ljbebon21 @ 02/12/2008 2:20:00 PM

      This person has some brains!

  • Posted By: GoAskNat @ 02/12/2008 2:19:32 PM

    I am generally happy and content with myself and my life. I am well aware that bad things will happen. I will lose people I love. I may get injured or become ill, as may my loved ones. I may not get the promotion I want, etc. But my overall happy or content attitude prepares my for such times......knowing that there is good and bad in life, happy and sad times. That's just life. The state of mind choose to go through life it is up to each individual.

  • Posted By: GoAskNat @ 02/12/2008 2:19:16 PM

    I am generally happy and content with myself and my life. I am well aware that bad things will happen. I will lose people I love. I may get injured or become ill, as may my loved ones. I may not get the promotion I want, etc. But my overall happy or content attitude prepares my for such times......knowing that there is good and bad in life, happy and sad times. That's just life. The state of mind choose to go through life it is up to each individual.

  • Posted By: GoAskNat @ 02/12/2008 2:18:11 PM

    I am generally happy and content with myself and my life. I am well aware that bad things will happen. I will lose people I love. I may get injured or become ill, as may my loved ones. I may not get the promotion I want, etc. But my overall happy or content attitude prepares my for such times......knowing that there is good and bad in life, happy and sad times. That's just life. The state of mind choose to go through life it is up to each individual.

  • Posted By: Edurbin @ 02/12/2008 12:48:32 PM

    It's simple. Negative feelings balance positive ones. How can you possibly know what happiness is if you've never felt sadness. I happen to be a happy person who always looks at the positive in life, but when sadness comes into my life I embrace it and feel it with as much enthusiasm because I know my ability to experience sadness allows me to appreciate the happiness.

    • Posted By: radical guy @ 02/12/2008 2:15:36 PM

      Very well stated.

  • Posted By: sweetlittlelies @ 02/12/2008 2:08:56 PM

    I had always been a happy person. I have never had a true experience being sad until recently, my rose colored world crashed into reality. The event that caused this crash was honestly very silly, but it made me seriously sad enough to examine my perception of the world and my attitude towards it. It has been a very interesting journey - I honestly can say I do not want to put the rose colored glasses back on. I never realized how blind and stupid I was, I walked around not really seeing my life and who and what I have filled my life with.

    As a sad/sober person, I feel much better armed to make good decisions about who and what I fill my life with. I am not RATIONALIZING my shortcomings, my relationships and what I have chosen to fill my life with. I am looking at it straight on for the first time... It is easy to walk around with rose colored glasses, to always see the sunny side of life, to beleive it is darkest before dawn and the sun will come out tomorrow... It is difficult keeping the rose colored glasses off to be able to experience sadness and incorporate it into my life... I want to see my life as it really is - no excuses, no rationaizing - I hope I honestly never slip back into being so stupid again....

    Being happy is like being the frog in the pot of warm water experiment... the frog will not jump to into boiling water but if you put him in warm water and slowly turn up the heat he will not know he is boiling to death until it is over... Happiness can have the same consequences, without the reality chck of sadness your blindness will kill you off in the end. Think about it...

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