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  • Posted By: ceja @ 02/06/2008 4:23:24 PM

    just read the article - it is incomplete- end is missing.

  • Posted By: waddyathink @ 02/06/2008 11:50:47 AM

    The article in the magazine is cut off. I had to come onto the web site to read the last 4 paragraphs.

  • Posted By: banjoboy @ 02/05/2008 5:25:51 PM

    Sarah Kliff seems to be unaware that a Lieutenant in the Navy is a higher rank than a 1st Lt in the Army. The rank of Lieutenant in the Navy is the equivalent of the rank of Captain in the Army. So JFK outranked GHWB, even though the "Lessons From the Front Line" blurb would seem to say otherwise. Is this an intentional ruse, or is this just inept journalism? 1Lt James H. Dautremont, US Army Vietnam

  • Posted By: jalyma @ 02/06/2008 9:38:10 AM

    I find it amazing Repubicans are now deciding McCain is the man for them. They rejected him 8 years ago in favor GWBush. I'm assuming the rejection of McCain 8 years ago was because Republicans decided Bush would make the better president. God help us. McCain wants to keep us in Iraq for 100 years and he admits he is weak on the economy.

  • Posted By: Dan Maloy @ 02/05/2008 5:32:59 PM

    Hey Huckabee supporters!

    Your guy didn't "win" in West Virgina! He got drug across the finish line by McCain supporters. And all this because why? Because YOUR guy was LOSING to Romney. If you want to brag about that, brag away.....

    Come on, Romney!

    • Posted By: HolyRoller @ 02/05/2008 10:40:39 PM

      Hey Dannyboy-that baptize the dead Jews position is probably looking better and better to Mitt. Not enough gold in Salt Lake to buy the USA. Rush was cheap, remember he's a drug addict.

      • Posted By: Twister52 @ 02/06/2008 1:41:46 AM

        "HolyRoller", just why exactly are you so jealous of Romney's wealth? Would you prefer that Romney had instead asked the Fed Govt for his gov't allowed matching funds? You know, if he had, a portion of YOUR tax dollars would be going to Mitt's campaign. So, do you want to thank Romney now or later for him using his own money on his campaign?

        For all your hype, your man "Hey, lets take away the votes of the good people of West Virginia" Huckabee is STILL in 3rd place in delegate totals. But, hey, like he said several hours ago, it IS a 2-man race. It's just that your guy isn't in it.....

        • Posted By: HolyRoller @ 02/06/2008 6:52:22 AM

          Sorry to disappoint you, but I support Johm McCain.. My 1st choice was Rudy and I'm following his lead. Have to admit though I've got a soft spot for Huck. He's the one that taught us all about the mormon doctrine fo JESUS and SATAN being brothers. BooHooHoo. Romney needs to quit.

  • Posted By: madfijian @ 02/06/2008 2:01:17 AM

    President McCain- get used to it.

  • Posted By: madfijian @ 02/06/2008 2:00:31 AM

    President McCain. Get used to it.

  • Posted By: wendy c @ 02/04/2008 2:04:31 PM

    How do you refuse to be relwased from prison?

    • Posted By: Dan Maloy @ 02/04/2008 6:07:44 PM

      wendy c: Actually, according to the POW books I've read, the North Vietnamese offered to send McCain home if he would do certain things to disgrace the U.S. Things like signing documents admitting he had commited "war crimes" against the North Vietnamese people, etc. He stuck to his guns and chose to stay a prisoner instead of going home early. It didn't happen much (guys choosing to go home) but it did happen occasionally. I admire McCain for that but since his return home I believe he's slowly let his integrity erode. Please see my post below on that.

      • Posted By: HolyRoller @ 02/04/2008 9:20:31 PM

        Wow Danny you sure read alot. I'll bet yer near genius ain't ye.

        NO MORMONS!!! NO MOHOMMEDS!!!

        • Posted By: Dan Maloy @ 02/05/2008 1:13:52 PM

          According to the psychologist that gave me the IQ test, yes.

          • Posted By: HolyRoller @ 02/05/2008 11:24:03 PM

            Must not have been a mormon psychologist then. I think something got misinterpreted when reading it.

  • Posted By: Dan Maloy @ 02/05/2008 1:31:36 PM

    According to Fox News, Romney is leading McCain by 7 points.

    And, the straw-poll at aol.com has Romney LEADING McCain 37% to 36% (53,408 to 52,128) and no, the software does not allow you to vote twice.

    Can you say "Romney momentum"? Go Mitt!

    ("HolyRoller", you can commence with firing off your "brilliant" e-mails now......)

    • Posted By: HolyRoller @ 02/05/2008 5:29:21 PM

      You must have been watching a rerun. Huck just won West Va.

      • Posted By: Dan Maloy @ 02/05/2008 5:32:19 PM

        Hey Huckabee supporters! (and you too, "HolyRoller")

        Your guy didn't "win" in West Virgina! He got drug across the finish line by McCain supporters. And all this because why? Because YOUR guy was LOSING to Romney. If you want to brag about that, brag away.....

        Come on, Romney!

        • Posted By: HolyRoller @ 02/05/2008 11:20:33 PM

          Just a couple of Christians casting out a devil. You know the scripture, "when two or more come togeather..."

  • Posted By: lovejusticepeace @ 02/05/2008 10:15:53 PM

    Murder brother.

  • Posted By: lovejusticepeace @ 02/05/2008 10:15:24 PM

    The name McCain sounds suspect.The son of the CAIN.

  • Posted By: lovejusticepeace @ 02/05/2008 10:14:13 PM

    McCain may not becoming Prez for the simple reason that it would mean perpetual war .And collapse of the economy.

  • Posted By: amorr2 @ 02/05/2008 9:51:03 PM

    McCain and other Repubs--I hope you're seriously listening--we love hearing about the price you paid for our country but if you don't begin raising serious money, there won't be a race come November (regardless of the price you paid). The Republicans have to start financially supporting their candidates. Perhaps we're waiting to see who that candidate might be but when the time comes, we have to support them financially or the Democrats will buy their way into the White House.

  • Posted By: voxdulcis @ 02/04/2008 12:15:33 AM

    There is no such thing as a perfect candidate. At least not this year. Here are our choices: we can elect Obama or Hillary and resign ourselves to a socialist future paid for by high taxes and our nation's security in the hands of one of those supremely unqualified candidates, or we can seek a path of military strength, fiscal conservatism, and keep the pressure on the feds to make the borders tight and shut down the sources of income for illegal aliens by electing a Republican. As for Romney: We have enough mormons in the FBI and CIA. We certainly don't need one in the presidency, even IF he is telling the truth about his stand on every issue, which he isn't. I would no more vote for Romney than Tom Cruise. McCain has much to recommend him: courage, intelligence and a strong history of supporting conservative causes, with the ability to compromise when necessary, since conservatives are not the only ones living in the US. I don't mind a bad temper when it's aimed at a fool or foolish idea. But, the best thing about McCain: he can save us, our children and our grandchildren from the disastrous effects of four years with Hillary or Obama.

    • Posted By: BinkyBarnes @ 02/04/2008 12:08:48 PM

      I hope that the children you are trying to save are under the age of 15, because Mc Cain will surely plunge us into so much conflict that the draft will raise it's ugly head out of necessity. And I am not surprised you don't mind a bad temper-most bigots have them and "don't mind" that quality in others.

      • Posted By: voxdulcis @ 02/05/2008 6:31:25 PM

        Oh my gawd! Do you think there might be some kind of war in our future??? I thought we were already there! Should we write the Al Qaeda a note and tell them they are early? ???McCain is not in office yet??? You have started the war without him. McCain is supposed to plunge us in to conflict!??? Binky, I am not going to ask you to think logically, because you are not here to do that. You are here to scare people away from McCain, and you do not seem to care how weak you look in the process.

        So, here???s the news flash: We???re already at war. The question is only how great the threat to us will become and from which terrorist nation. Under a weak president, the Clintons, we had the first bombing of the WTC, the bombing of OK City and Flight 700, and never were we told the truth about the terrorists involved in them, except for the first one. We???ll never know how many plans were thwarted. The Clintons didn???t want anyone to know about what was going on. And there were no reprisals against bin laden or the others. The result of that weakness was 9/11. The only way to prevent future, greater problems is to have a strong president. And McCain will be that, just as Reagan was. Since the Clintons stripped our military down to a skeleton crew, it may be necessary, in order to keep our country safe, to enlarge our military by some means. Freedom has never been cheap.

        The important thing is to have a president that will do what is necessary and not put his head in the sand, like the Clintons did.


  • Posted By: banjoboy @ 02/05/2008 5:36:40 PM

    Does Ms. Sarah Kliff not know the difference between Lieutenant (jg) and Lieutenant in the Navy? Both JFK and GHWB had the highest rank of Lieutenan (jg) in the Navy, which is the equivalent of my rank of 1Lt in the Army. If she is going to promote them, then I wish she would also make me a captain in the Army.

    James H. Dautremont
    1Lt, US Army Vietnam

  • Posted By: Kallen @ 02/04/2008 12:35:15 AM

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    How can anyone read this article and feel good about John McCain as president? He doesn't like CRITICISM? What the HECK is he running for president for? There's probably NO ONE in the world who attracts more criticism than the President of the US.

    Do we want a president who's going to look for revenge against every person, in and outside the US, who offends his "honor"? That's FRIGHTENING!!

    How can anyone read this article and feel good about John McCain as president? He doesn't like CRITICISM? What the HECK is he running for president for? There's problaby NO ONE in the world who attracts more criticism than the President of the US.

    Do we want a president who's going to look for revenge against every person, in and outside the US, who offends his "honor"? That's FRIGHTENING!!

    ""I was surprised to find so many senators who'd had a personal experience when he'd lost his temper," says Cochran. "

    ""I certainly know no other president since I've been here who's had a temperament like that. There's some who were capable of getting angry, of course. Ronald Reagan and Jimmy Carter both. But this ???" His voice trailed away. "You like to think your president would be cool, calm and collected. He's commander in chief.""

    ""McCain reacts poorly when criticized," says Norquist. "When the NRA and the right-to-life and right-to-work groups criticized him, he reacted like they were personal attacks, and then he supported some gun-control legislation to get back at the NRA.""

    "McCain wound up in the office of the then Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, yelling at the top of his lungs, say a Pentagon official and an adviser to Rumsfeld who declined to be identified"

    "McCain may have a bit of a vindictive streak. "John has an enemies list longer than Nixon's," says a former Pentagon official who did not want to get on it. "And, unlike Nixon, McCain really does try to get you.""

    "[McCain] snapped, "Don't try to change my mind," says a former aide who wished to avoid McCain's wrath by remaining anonymous."

    "McCain's leadership skills are called into question by the near meltdown of his campaign. "Nobody knew who the boss was," says one of McCain's longtime friends and advisers"

    I TELL YOU... THE MAN DESCRIBED IN THIS ARTICLE SCARES ME!

    • Posted By: voxdulcis @ 02/04/2008 5:48:58 AM

      My goodness! You scare so easily! Perhaps you should just relax, take a prozac and refrain from reading Newsweek. According to polls, McCain is the only Republican who can win against Obama or Clinton. The Dems would MUCH prefer to see the oh-so-beatable Romney win the Republican nomination. And this article is just part of their anti-McCain propaganda.

      • Posted By: Twister52 @ 02/05/2008 12:49:54 AM

        Voxdulcis, if that doesn't make you a little fearful of having that much anger in the person who just may control the most powerful position in the world for a minimum of 4 years, you have a poor grasp on the concept of what it takes to be a true leader. Sure, real leaders are tough, but they generally don't destroy the people that they work with or those they really want to accomplish things with.

        Go Romney!

        • Posted By: voxdulcis @ 02/05/2008 4:40:54 PM

          Oh, come on! Did you not study US history? I recall congressmen who threw punches and brawled in the halls of Congress! There has been cursing and verbal abuse among congressmen for 200 years! But, that's neither here nor there, and no more important right now than your anxieties. The strange and disconcerting big difference between Mitt and the other candidates is that Mitt is the only one who has a small army of campaign workers mostly all belonging to one single "religion." I took a glance at the last day's postings and even here, in this forum, it appears that all of Mitt's support is from mormons. And it has occurred to me that neither you nor those other Mitt supporters have ever even considered supporting any other candidate. That means that your deep, unrelenting zeal is religion-based, only. It is not because of any talent, knowledge, ability, experience or his stand on a handful of popular topics. You're here simply to give glowing reports of your fellow mormon???s supposed almost-superhuman leadership abilities while eagerly embracing every negative item (even if false) in the above McCain article, which you gladly (and repetitively) blow unreasonably out of proportion. If you were a well-balanced, fair-thinking person, one who thinks as an individual, no less, without an obvious motive to your chicken-little fears about McCain???s supposed "bad temper", I could perhaps take you seriously. But instead, it???s as if you are wearing a sign that says, "Vote for Mitt because mormons love him." That's it, your whole, real story, the end. Again, most importantly: This article (above) was written as part of an anti-McCain propaganda agenda that will certainly worsen in the months ahead after McCain gains his party's nomination.

  • Posted By: Henri @ 02/05/2008 11:51:37 AM

    If we look at his skeletons and flesh them out with our presumptions about how he's not qualified based on his past, then that disqualifies the majority in many arenas who'ev gone on to do great things, often times as a result of their schooling through hard times and wayward decisions.

    We all love Spielberg; but did you know that he walked onto Universal's campus back in the day, set up shop in an empty office that wasn't his, and began to do his work. That's brazen and bold and considered a beautiful feat of the dedicated human drive to pursue our passions and dreams despits systems that make it difficult. Now look at Spielberg and his outrageous following; but what he did was cheat and deceptive to get where he wanted. I don't rattle those old bones in my mind when I evaluate his work, and I don't skake McCain's either when I look at his possibilty post as president.

    What about Bill Clinton? I think that's recent enough say I don't need to say more.

    Nevertheless, this is opinion and means nothing.

    I will say, since it is opinion. My first vote is not McCain; but I appreciate what's he's endured in life. I can't say (can you) that I've lived through some of the things he has and has come out more-than-fairly intact, if not quite insightful. At the very least, McCain is a useful candidate; and useful, though subtly pragmatic, is powerful if in the right place. The opposite is useless, and many are quite useless and in the wrong places.

    FYI: For someone to be able to evaluate his own experiences and be so self-ware as McCain, that indeed is the alternative to "not being all there (or 'their" as one wrote here)."

  • Posted By: buckguy @ 02/05/2008 10:15:55 AM

    can we have a profile of McCain that doesn't start out with "maverick". His voting record is essentially that of most conservative GOP senatators. He cravenly caved to the Adminitsration on torture and other issues. His past has plenty of skeletons: Keating Five, leaving wife #1 when she was disabled (shades of Gingrich), etc.

    Thomas admits that he likes McCain and tacitly endoreses the "straight talk" nonsense. It reminds me of all the reporters who talked about Bush as a "regular" guy and Gore as a "phony" or "liar". Obviously, their powers of observation were lacking and I suspect that is true of Thomas, whom I once thought could see beyond the fog of "image" and spin.

  • Posted By: rottimom @ 02/05/2008 7:54:14 AM

    Vietnam Vets and McCain

    http://www.usvetdsp.com/manchuan.htm

  • Posted By: Karenn1 @ 02/05/2008 7:32:13 AM

    This man mcCain is not all their.Is an accident looking for somewhere to happen. Got the support of jack kemp,who in hell is jack kemp. He is stuck in neutral.

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