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A $4 Million Ransom?

The Taliban claims South Korea paid at least $4 million for the release of 21 Christian missionaries held hostage last year in Afghanistan.

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  • Posted By: Cascadia @ 02/07/2008 3:49:45 AM

    If it was my son or daughter who was a Christian Missionary who chose to put themself at risk by being in a war zone I would have to ask myself if paying for their release put other people's children at risk. you NEVER negotiate with terrorists.

    • Posted By: pinksheep @ 02/07/2008 10:21:37 PM

      if that was your son and daughter, and if you were a good parent, you would do anything to bring them back home.

      • Posted By: observer101 @ 02/09/2008 4:41:31 PM

        I would have tried to talk sense into my son or daughter to try and keep them from doing something ignorant like that, and if they knew the risks then they died for what they believed. Its the religious leaders fault for coercing the ppl to go in the first place.

  • Posted By: observer101 @ 02/09/2008 3:39:19 PM

    All are fools going into a violent area in the first place. There is no excuse, just let the governments take care of there own to an extent. There was no reason for any of those ppl to be there, except for there own religious agenda, so they could brag later they helped in one way or another. Let governments do the dirty work and ppl of religious faiths should work on there own countries or with countries that REALLY want there help. As for terrorists taking hostages and wanting ransoms and ACTUALLY getting paid, Well the government should charge those church organizations for the ransom tax payers will more than likely be paying back. If those fools werent there in the first place they wouldnt be taken hostage. Cant blame the thugs for taking advantage of a situation. I for one would love nothing more than to take out the Taliban, or any terrorists for that matter, but if you play around in the wrong waters, your going to get bite by a shark eventually.

  • Posted By: mzz shirOh @ 02/06/2008 11:25:40 PM

    The United States is amazing, don't get me wrong... but I don't really see why you have to downplay South Korea to say that. Not every country is perfect. Most politics and governments play dirty & you can't say that every single thing about the American government is absolutely perfect.
    Also, nationalism is not only a problem in S. Korea. It's like that for most Asian countries and the principle DEFINITELY holds true for the US. For example, if you can't speak English very well or have an accent, American people tend to look down upon you. If you haven't experienced that, you wouldn't really understand the humiliation. The condescending look people give you is degrading.

    ALSO..
    A country shouldn't fall for the "ransom" tactic and give money to the enemy, but isn't the live of humans more significant than the money? (I know it's wrong, but if Korea even DID give them money...) which is really more important?
    <And.. Korea didn't even really want to be included in the war in the first place. More like it was pushed upon them by the US and since the US is an important ally, what was Korea supposed to do?>

    ALSOOOOO
    There are corrupted leaders everywhere, so you shouldn't really blame Korea for every corrupted leader it has had in the past.

    • Posted By: CPT FREEDOM @ 02/09/2008 4:00:22 AM


      Here is what concerns me. I am currently stationed in South Korea, forward deployed near the border with North Korea. I am defending a country that negotiates with terrorists and then helps fund their operations by paying ransom.

  • Posted By: pinksheep @ 02/07/2008 12:41:39 AM

    Look, Korea just did what it had to do. Their hands were tied. If you were given a choice between pleasing your allies and keeping your citizens safe, wouldn't you choose the former?

    • Posted By: pinksheep @ 02/07/2008 10:20:59 PM

      oops, i meant latter

  • Posted By: ARGOS-PANOPTES @ 02/07/2008 8:29:04 PM

    I???m stunned with the self-righteous attitude of some people in this blog...calling a government and it people traitors for actually doing what any other IS supposed to do ...protect its citizens???. I???d like to remind these "concerned" Americans that their own government is NOW at this very moment negotiating in Iraq with the same insurgents - (as your president calls them, who are actually in their own country) - that they were fighting a few months ago (incidentally these were the guys planting the IED???s that killed the US soldiers) isn???t your government supposed to fight them instead of negotiate with them? Is it ok now to kiss and make up with those people because it now serves your purpose? Even go as far as to provide weapons to them???the way it is every government will act in its OWN best interest.

  • Posted By: gilbert123 @ 02/07/2008 12:11:04 PM

    The problem here is that everyone is right. Korea has alot of warts, so does America and any other country. Any moron can make a generalization on any country or its people. Its a matter of what you want to see.

    • Posted By: ProudOfMyKoreanHeritage @ 02/07/2008 6:14:12 PM

      couldn't agree with you more. well said.

  • Posted By: ProudOfMyKoreanHeritage @ 02/07/2008 8:38:33 AM

    i agree with everyone who has shared their opinion only because that is our right here in the u.s. but do not make the mistake of thinking our country, our government, our people are clean in times like these. again, let me reiterate, this claim is still only a claim. a claim by a group that kills at random against their own people. a claim that would have made more sense if the taliban had made it at the time of release. 5 months later is suspect. and yes, paying a ransom to terrorists is definitely not a good thing to do because it does fund the insurgents, but rather than just looking into this alleged $4 million, what about how the taliban and insurgents get funded by opium. it's estimated at over $100 million a year. to conner517, read up on the korean war and you'll know the sacrifices that were made and why we have peacekeepers there. and at least korea supported the u.s. when they asked. what about france and some other countries who said no to supporting our country? it's tough to "chose" friends when we sometimes abuse the friendships we already have. in addition, you really can't have 4,000 year history by being cowards. oh and that enemy you speak of, the ones we are fighting, read up on our history with them. to those who say they would never ever pay a ransom for their loved ones, it's easy to take that stance if it's never happened to you. and if it has and you never did to save a friend, a lover, a parent, a child, then why even be apart of life, honestly? also, if you think other countries never pay ransom to other terrorists across the globe, then damn, i really understand the hate you guys have. to wyuno514, as a korean american, you should know the american side of you can say the same thing about any country to a degree especially our own. i mean, even canada can't stand us at times and they're probably one of the friendliest countries, eh.

  • Posted By: keymaster213 @ 02/06/2008 5:17:47 PM

    We are at war with the Taliban. They ARE our enemy.The South Koreans have aided and abetted our enemy which is within itself an act of war! It won't be just American troops that will die from this funding of terrorism, but an untold number of innocent men, women, and children.

    • Posted By: dba7dba @ 02/07/2008 4:31:34 AM

      The thing is you have to know the internal political situation of S. Korea. The president that was in charge when this happened was so unpopular that his approval rating at one point was neaer 20%. And you thought President Bush was unpopular! He was spineless, stubborn, stupid president. Anyhow this particular president's party got beaten up silly in the election that was held a month ago. Any many people say one reason the election was decisive was because of the idiotic president.

  • Posted By: gtbyrne @ 02/07/2008 3:24:13 AM

    If it were your sopn, daughter, spouse or whatever who was being held hostage by these unbalanced fanatics wouldn' t you want your government to step in and bring them home safely? C'mon, stop the BS about we never pay ransom to terrorists...there are human lives at stake here.

  • Posted By: connor517 @ 02/07/2008 12:23:58 AM

    We have 50,000 troops in South Korea to protect that country. South Korea in turn gives $4 million dollars to the Talaban that they can now be used to kill Americans. When are we going to wake up and chose friends that we can rely on rather than cowards! We make sacrifices, but they make deals with the enemy.
    John-Laguna Niguel, CA

  • Posted By: connor517 @ 02/07/2008 12:19:11 AM

    Why do we have 50,00 troops in South Kores to protect that country. They did not have the guts to stand up to the Talaban and so money goes to the terrorists to fight the USA.
    John-Laguna Niguel, CA

  • Posted By: 2centsworth @ 02/06/2008 6:27:48 PM

    Well take it from one who does know. I have lived in Korea for over 17 years both in the Military and as a civilian and Magsheen is right on the money. Korea is all about Korea and looking out for #1. They will use you, your mother and anyone else they can to attain what ever it is they want. They are a very nationalistic race who do not care about right or wrong it will always be Koreans first last and always. A Korean will not testify against another Korean when a foreigner is involved not matter how wrong the Korean is...they always turn a blind eye. You can't even own a foreign car in Korea for fear that the Koreans will beat it up because you did not buy Korean. They scream and holler about equal rights in America they want theirs but in Korea they practice a different set of rules. Very few opportunities for foreigners on the Korean job market unless you want to do hard labor but then they don't pay and the Law does nothing about it. So yeah they have supported an enemy of the US in making available to them the money they paid for ransom. Bottom line it's wrong and should not have been paid.

    • Posted By: mzz shirOh @ 02/06/2008 11:53:18 PM

      Actually... (just about the foreign cars comment) Korean people love foreign cars- Mercedes, BMWs, etc...

      I don't know WHERE you lived in Korea for those seventeen years, but I'm here to testify that your observations don't hold true for every Korean.
      Also, I haven't really heard any equal rights stuff from Koreans...
      I think many Koreans keep their culture, but at the same time assimilate to the American culture in many aspects. Koreans don't really seem to have any "rights" issues.

      About the paying the ransom (if it's true that is), I agree that it's wrong, but if someone kidnapped your sister, brother, mother, father, cousin, whoever... wouldn't you do everything that you can to get them back safely. A country is supposed to keep together, almost protect you, like a mother... that's all that Korea tried to do. Technically, Korean morals were in the right place.

  • Posted By: magsheen @ 02/06/2008 4:35:04 PM

    South Koreans are usually deceitful. They do whatever is necessary to get what they want. They are very friendly when they see you as a friend. But, if there is any conflict of interest, you find that there is no shame in deceit in Korean morale standards.

    • Posted By: mzz shirOh @ 02/06/2008 11:39:17 PM

      Where do you find evidence for these claims? I, some South Koreans are deceitful, but there are some Americans who are deceitful as well. You can't just blame the whole country for the wrongs of the few. Honestly, most people are friendly when they see you as a friend.... ???
      And what is wrong with Korean morale standards?

    • Posted By: wyun0514 @ 02/06/2008 11:17:24 PM

      magsheen, I am a Korean-American and although I am proud to be Korean, at the same time very ashamed of what we have become. The culture is beautiful yet ugly.

    • Posted By: prudence @ 02/06/2008 8:45:16 PM

      magsheen is usually decietful. he will do whatever is necessary to get what he wants. he is very friendly when he sees you as a friend, but if there is any conflict of interest, you find that there is no shame in deceit in his morale standards.

  • Posted By: mzz shirOh @ 02/06/2008 11:35:59 PM

    True, the missionaries knew what they were getting into..
    but it becomes a national/global problem after they fall into the hands of the Taliban.

  • Posted By: wyun0514 @ 02/06/2008 11:14:50 PM

    My thought is that, because the Christian missionary knew what they were getting into, no ransom should have been paid. It shows how weak the Korean government is when it comes to ointernational issues such as this. Although S. Korea is the 11th largest economy in the world, it seems as if we are the last ones when it comes to politics. It doesn't help when there is internal corruption within the system. Corruption runs rampant: businesses and politics. I am an Korean American living in Seoul, and witness what I have said first hand. If we can't even respect ourselves, how do you think other nations will treat us. Bottom line, the missionary knew what they were getting into, and should have gotten themselves out of it. Ladies and gentlemen, it is a brutal world we live in.

  • Posted By: mzz shirOh @ 02/06/2008 11:11:53 PM

    I agree that nationalism is strong in most Asian countries. However, nationalism is a not just a problem only in S. Korea. The principle holds true for many Americans as well. For example, if you have an accent in speaking English because you haven't been in the States that long, most Americans look down upon you. That condescending feeling is so degrading, and if you haven't experienced it you wouldn't really understand the humiliation.

  • Posted By: ProudOfMyKoreanHeritage @ 02/06/2008 8:43:06 PM

    a travesty? are you kidding me? yes our country has always said she firmly stands as a champion of civil rights, equality and justice. but ask any minority who grew up here in the past 40 years and you'll see how firm that stance has been. ask how a muslim how welcomed he or she has felt in this country since 9/11. also, last time i checked, and i could be wrong but s. korea never put their own citizens who were born on her soil in concentration camps as the u.s. did to japanese americans. and if you think that in most cases that justice is served and can be relied upon, that the u.s. has achieved equality, and that children of mixed races do not receive bias here, i really envy you. i wish i had the priviledge of having seen what you have seen. even as a child of the 80's and 90's, growing up in what can be considered diverse areas, i can not even begin to desribe the prejudice for being of asian decent. but anyway, i understand the position lilgemeezy, 2cents, and even magsheen are taking. however, why is your hate not directed at the groups that are carrying out the kidnappings. again, there is no evidence other than a claim by an organization that has used their members to blow up and kill their own country men and citizens, including women and children. and i don't know if you've noticed, kidnappings have gone on for a long time. so even if the claim is true, i'm sure that korea's alleged action here has not fueled kidnappings in the middle east, asia, europe, south america, and africa for this long all by themselves as you guys seem to believe. i know that's a little extreme but that is how i interpret your posts. oh and lilgemeezy, don't forget about will demps, full safety for the ravens back in their superbowl win. he's half/half just like hines ward. only he never denounced half of his heritage due to circumstances that could happen to anyone. his acceptance of that heritage and ultimately forgiving a country he had hated are the main reasons for his prominence. contrary to popular belief, not everyone is looking for prominence, regardless of race or country.

  • Posted By: Lilgemeezy @ 02/06/2008 8:10:05 PM

    To compare the United States of America to South Korea in the realm of civil rights, equality, leadership, and justice is a travesty. Despite many of her offenses throughout history, America has always stood firm as a champion of civil rights, equality, and justice. To this day there are many hideous acts of preferential treatment and outright racism in the U.S., however, in most cases justice is something that can be relied upon in America. In defense of 2centsworth, the Korean justice system does favor Korean nationals and so does their culture. Nationalism in Korea is a serious and harmful hindrance towards achieving equality in Korea. Children of mixed race don???t stand a chance in Korean society. The only figure who has gained prominence is Hines Ward, and this is only after Koreans have found it beneficial to promote his Korean heritage (ask his mother about that one). I must have heard his name mentioned 30 times by Korean announcers during this past Super Bowl (in which he did not play). Negotiating with terrorist is wrong and there is a reason that many of the world???s leading nations have taken that stance. It encourages terrorist organizations to commit similar acts in the future and monetary compensation further enables them to do so. Although, my heart goes out to the South Korean hostages and their families, they chose to enter a hostile environment and paid the consequences in doing so. If the Korean government did pay $4 million dollars in ransom, they committed a selfish act that only increases the probability of the next group of international aid workers being taken hostage; as we all know South Korean Missionaries will never enter Afghanistan again.

  • Posted By: Lilgemeezy @ 02/06/2008 8:09:49 PM

    To compare the United States of America to South Korea in the realm of civil rights, equality, leadership, and justice is a travesty. Despite many of her offenses throughout history, America has always stood firm as a champion of civil rights, equality, and justice. To this day there are many hideous acts of preferential treatment and outright racism in the U.S., however, in most cases justice is something that can be relied upon in America. In defense of 2centsworth, the Korean justice system does favor Korean nationals and so does their culture. Nationalism in Korea is a serious and harmful hindrance towards achieving equality in Korea. Children of mixed race don???t stand a chance in Korean society. The only figure who has gained prominence is Hines Ward, and this is only after Koreans have found it beneficial to promote his Korean heritage (ask his mother about that one). I must have heard his name mentioned 30 times by Korean announcers during this past Super Bowl (in which he did not play). Negotiating with terrorist is wrong and there is a reason that many of the world???s leading nations have taken that stance. It encourages terrorist organizations to commit similar acts in the future and monetary compensation further enables them to do so. Although, my heart goes out to the South Korean hostages and their families, they chose to enter a hostile environment and paid the consequences in doing so. If the Korean government did pay $4 million dollars in ransom, they committed a selfish act that only increases the probability of the next group of international aid workers being taken hostage; as we all know South Korean Missionaries will never enter Afghanistan again.

  • Posted By: magsheen @ 02/06/2008 7:46:24 PM

    In Korea, ethical standard is far lower than that in the US.

    For every single president in South Korea history, once they got removed from power, either they or their close relatives, if not killed, got imprisoned for corruption, bribery, etc. That's a fact.

    Cheating and plagiarism is wide spread among South Korean college students. Most of them take is as a part of college. Some professor get accused of plagiarism in their work, but they rarely get punished for that. This is another fact.

    In South Korea, they are very leniant against sexual crimes. A child sex molestor gets 3 years or less prison time. It is widely known that male sports coaches in South Korea molest their female students, but they rarely get punished. In a recent Korean news, one anonymous male coach said that sex with his girl students are needed to properly control the girls.

    US people just don't realize people in other parts of the world have a very different way of life. And, different can mean something very bad.

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