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  • Posted By: most_difficult@hotmail.com @ 02/07/2008 6:14:07 PM

    This article was pretty harsh on Romney. McCain hasn't out preformed him head and shoulders or anything, and Romney wasn't vastly rejected by any means. Romney still has won 11 states to McCains 13, and has 4 million votes to McCains 4.7. It is just tuff luck the way delegates were awarded that he is so far behind in the delegate count. It's not lack of support or votes that he is dropping out.

  • Posted By: Tom B. @ 02/07/2008 6:08:08 PM

    I supported Romney and saw him change or become what he really was all along. I'm not Mormon but know many and he was extreme by their standard. I was looking for a honest man with morals and I believe he was/is that. He made a lot of Rookie mistakes and I heard things that went against my grain. I won't vote for McCain and Huck is out of luck. Maybe it is really time for a change and go for Obama. Who's Left? Everybody

  • Posted By: brendabee50 @ 02/07/2008 6:07:15 PM

    I was not happy to hear Mitt Romney has pulled out of the race. I am a long time republican, but will now be voting for a democrat! I do not like John McCain, and will not vote for him. I cannot believe so many people are fooled by him!

  • Posted By: Gilly47 @ 02/07/2008 6:05:53 PM

    Learning of Mr. Romney's departure from the race has left me with a heavy heart and an uncomfortable sense of foreboding that the 2008 election will be the beginning of the end for the US as we know it. I fear we will continue to slide into mediocraty on the domestic front and as force to be reckoned with in the international arena. The leading candidates who remain choose to soften the perspective of illegal immigration, a form of criminal trespass, and in addressing the impact of current illegals, the number of which may be equal to half or more of the entire population of Canada, on our socio-economic base. Many proport health care concerns and mortgage persepctives that may undermine our free market system. We cannot legislate personal responsibility. We are a nation of laws not consensus. Mr. Romney's business perspectives would have provided revitalizing input to the congress.

    His personal life and family values. no matter his faith, display a striking contrast to Mr. MCCain's. After all, MCCain divorced an infirmed wife. So much for sickness and in health vows. He married his significantly younger "trophy" wife one month after his divorce was final. He had no ties to Arizona except his father-in-law's enterprise that funded his Arizona campaign into a Senatorial seat. If 3-times married, Guliani gets to be his running mate, they could run on the adultery ticket.

    The Democrats flagrant socialistic perspectives are easier to swallow. At least they openly admit them.

  • Posted By: matt S @ 02/07/2008 4:36:04 PM

    I said earlier:

    Jospeh Smith, not unlike David Koresh, uses his newly minted faith to ensure that he has a steady supply of newly minted converts willing to give up their daughters to him.

    Well, there is a bright side to this coin ... at least Smith wasn't GAY!!!!! LOL

    • Posted By: eshuster @ 02/07/2008 6:05:11 PM

      Really intelligent. May God have mercy on you.

  • Posted By: brendabee50 @ 02/07/2008 6:05:06 PM

    I am a long time republican, but now that Mitt Romney has dropped out of the race, I will be voting democratic! I will not vote for John Mc cain ever.

  • Posted By: augustmoon @ 02/07/2008 6:04:17 PM

    And do it comes to this... three (now two) Republican candidates who are trying hard to be the "anti-Bush. It seems the unholy alliance between right-wing evangelicals (read fundementalists) and the Republican corporist elite is in complete disarray. LIke it or not, McCain, Huckabee... and yes, even Romney are all moderate Republicans with a populist streak. As a left-leaning independent - I can only say "Thank you, George, Dick and Karl!

  • Posted By: testpattern @ 02/07/2008 4:45:52 PM

    Info: No Morman will be elected President when their faith includes concepts that offend all women but Mormen women. A basic Morman tenant is that women arrive in 'heaven' or Kolab, whichever, by being 'invited across the veil' and only their husband can do this inviting. They say an unmarried believer of their faith has a chance - if she had no opportunity to marry. That means death before 12 or so, or living on a desert island. No youthful or adult women in normal society can get to their heaven unless they are invited across the veil by their husband.
    Now, can you see the opponents (not Republicans afraid of backlash from Republicans, but an OPPONENT) not hammering a Morman candidate with this??? About Sept 15 to Oct 15 should do it. What non-Morman woman isn't offended by this??? What can you make of statistics about the age of marriage, within the Morman faith from this? What kind of true, individual personal stories will be publicized about this.
    The basic deal is no one running a national campaign against a Morman is worried about 'losing' any Morman votes - their already gone. Its a no-risk, very big hammer.

    • Posted By: eshuster @ 02/07/2008 6:03:35 PM

      We need to not waste our time replying to this guy testpattern, He is spinning us up. The Savior said to not cast our pearls before swine. Don't waste your time on this guy.

    • Posted By: azGuy @ 02/07/2008 4:54:30 PM

      I've never seen someone try to spell Mormon so many different ways and still get it wrong. Shows how well you know what you are talking about. Do you really think that 13 million members world wide would put up with a religion that treated women so badly? The LDS doctrine teaches that a man can not enter heaven without a woman and vice/versa. You can find thousands of instances backing this up at www.lds.org, which is the official web site for the church.

      • Posted By: maria_dee @ 02/07/2008 5:25:29 PM

        regardless of whether or not she has the spelling or "theology" correct, she makes a good point.
        Just look at this board for your proof. Half of the posts have to do with defense of - a religion!
        Just imagine what the
        Clinton war machine would have done with this little tidbit. Can you just see them licking their chops at the prospect of using the Mormon card against Mitt?
        (see what they tried to do in Obama in SC by using the race card...)

        people everyone needs to accept the fact that the primary is just about over and we're going to have to shore up for a brutal general election. (I'm tending toward less brutal more civil if Obama is the dem choice)

      • Posted By: doranjam @ 02/07/2008 5:21:16 PM

        testpattern: get an education before making false statements about a religion that 13 million people respect and hold dear. Why don't you be what an American is supposed to be and start showing some religious tolerance. Besides that, you're embarrassing yourself with your grammatical incompetance. It's hard to take seriously your attempts at swaying our opinion that way!

      • Posted By: doranjam @ 02/07/2008 5:20:16 PM

        testpattern: get an education before making false statements about a religion that 13 million people respect and hold dear. Why don't you be what an American is supposed to be and start showing some religious tolerance. Besides that, you're embarrassing yourself with your grammatical incompetance. It's hard to take seriously your attempts at swaying our opinion that way!

    • Posted By: East Coaster Alex Man @ 02/07/2008 5:24:38 PM

      Dear testpattern,
      I find it completely fascinating that you are such an expert on this subject. Why, I had no idea that "Mormon" was in fact spelled 'Morman.' Secondly, I think that it is very inappropriate to completely bash another religion, culture, faith, political view, or anything for that matter, without firstly doing the proper research. Based on what I know from first-hand experience, ???Mormon??? is just a nickname, the true name for the religion is the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. It is their belief that any man, woman, or child of any age can reach heaven, regardless of their age or marital status. LDS members also believe that in order to reach the highest of three kingdoms of heaven, one must be married for time and all eternity, which applies to both men and women. It???s not like women are being left out, but both are equal in the eyes of God. Neither Mitt Romney nor the LDS church believes men or women to be inferior to the other, but equal. LDS women do not get married at the age of 12. Their average marriage age is lower than that of the national average, but I can positively assure that the church doesn???t sanction marriage before one becomes a legal adult and has faithfully considered his or her spouse. Also, Mitt Romney specifically said that his religious views would not have conflicted with his presidential duties. Although he is out of the race, I think it is important that we cannot judge any presidential candidate based on his or her religious affiliation, but on his or her stances and views regarding the running of this country. I hope this clears up any misconceptions.

    • Posted By: JuOl @ 02/07/2008 5:08:56 PM

      TestPattern - I am a mormon and you are very mis-informed. Please do not spread this garbage when you don't know the facts. You did not even spell mormon correctly.

  • Posted By: kimball1957 @ 02/07/2008 6:01:59 PM

    Alot of Romney's demise was religious bigotry. Bigotry is a word that we as Americans don't like becuase it's not PC to say it; however, it's alive and well in America. I find it offensive that the media just doesn't say what most people are thinking. The media doesn't speak of bigotry. I would like someone within the media to do a story on religious bigotry in the US. Once the ugly truth is told, then we, as a nation, can face ourselves and our beleifs to see if *religious bigots* are who we really are. Romney is a Mormon, and I beleive that religious bigoitry played a huge part of the anti-mormon campaign.

  • Posted By: TheLordiscoming @ 02/07/2008 4:54:19 PM

    The mormons got the moment.They babtized milions before Romney's Factor,now they will babtize tens of milions.Thanks Mitt Romney.

    • Posted By: eshuster @ 02/07/2008 6:01:47 PM

      It is not about baptisms my friend, it is about building the kingdom as Christ taught. It is not about the numbers, as we will always be a peculiar people, a form of Christianity that is outside of the mainstream. I am saddened by Romney's departure, but I am glad that we can take the focus away from the Lord's Church and go back to building the kingdom and not having to listen to faithless individuals deride our Christian faith. God bless you.

  • Posted By: testpattern @ 02/07/2008 4:56:21 PM

    Christianity requires the belief that Chris was the only, and will be the only, GOD-man. Mormans believe they will all be made GODS.
    Not to mention that Mormans have a ton of to-dos before they get the prize, but exact adherence to the Christian biblical statement make faith in Christ as your savior the ONLY requirement, just as the thief on the cross next to Jesus only had to ask showing he believed Christ was the sole son of God, he did nothing else.

    • Posted By: eshuster @ 02/07/2008 5:58:43 PM

      Wrong testpattern. Mormons believe in the infinite atonement of Jesus Christ, the only begotten of the Father, as being only way for mankind to be saved. We believe in grace, and that nothing we can do can get us to heaven or can save us. That is pure Mormon doctrine. One need only to read the New Testament to understand the role of works - they are a measure of our love and devotion to the savior. By their fruits ye will know them. If you are a Christian, which it is hard to see that you are, please pratice a true form of Christianity.

  • Posted By: getitright @ 02/07/2008 5:57:50 PM

    nccvax - Never went door-to-door on a mission. Not that you are trying to ridicule that either, huh! Point is, you tried to define us as non-christian based on your lack of knowledge. Then you pointed out you weren't trying to ridicule. That's like saying, "hey, I think you're stupid," but oh, I'm not trying to be mean.

  • Posted By: PMcAllister @ 02/07/2008 5:51:38 PM

    In light of what I believe is truly the most important issue of our times, America's economic meltdown, I am sad to see Governor Romney step down. Unfortunately that leaves us with Senator McCain, who is so out of touch with the true crises in our country that he has declared that the transcendent issue of our times is radical Islamic Jihad. Governor Romney was the only candidate in either party to successfully address universal healthcare policy, and the only one with a proven ability and record for turning around organizations and making them successful and profitable; attributes that are sorely needed in America's Chief Executive.

    In spite of the fact that both Senator McCain and Governor Huckabee have both changed positions on issues during their political careers, hypocritically attacked Governor Romney for things they have done themselves throughout the campaign and offered boldfaced lies to the public, somehow, with the help of the media, they were able to make the "dishonest" and "phony" and "flip-flopper" labels stick to Governor Romney. None of the remaining leading candidates is an acceptable option. We Republicans have done ourselves a disservice by driving out one of the best candidates we have had for the presidency since Ronald Reagan.

  • Posted By: gming @ 02/07/2008 5:56:43 PM

    I find it interesting that our nation still has a problem with religious tolerance. We've made great strides in regards to gender equality and racial tolerance. But when someone speaks out of bounds regarding these two subjects, action is quickly taken to correct - and even make an example of - the problem and those who've caused them. I find it most disappointing that Mitt Romney's religion was for many voters, the reason why they couldn't cast a vote for him. It didn't seem to matter much that Romney had experience in the private sector as well as state government, nor the fact that he concentrated on issues, and OUTLINED CLEARLY what it is he would do in order to effect change. I recall an interview with a Florida voter who had just cast her ballot for Mike Huckabee. Asked why she didn???t vote for Romney, her answer was, ???because he???s a Mormon.??? Were there outcries claiming religious discrimination by the Romney camp or the Mormon community? None at all. I can???t believe what would have happened if someone had openly admitted to not voting for Obama merely because of his skin color. It???s so easy in this day and age to openly discriminate a person according to their religion, but so wrong and despicable when it comes to race and gender. Sad.

    Rather, there are many who seem to vote according to what???s popular at the time or what sounds good. In McCain???s case, it???s just because he???s a veteran. Thank you Senator McCain for serving our country, but if just being a veteran qualifies you for the office of President, then every other veteran out there should be President too ??? including my dad. No one seems to consider that McCain changed his position on a number of issues, lied about his remarks regarding his lack of economics, nor the fact that he cheated openly on his first wife. Sounds like a true conservative to me. Nor does anyone consider the fact that McCain???s platform so far has consisted of name-dropping those who???ve endorsed him and the Iraq War. That???s it. Great nominee. Romney???s dropping out will be a huge loss to our nation. But when the time comes when our nation will need serious rescuing, count on Mitt to step in and fix the problem!

  • Posted By: nmstx @ 02/07/2008 5:55:19 PM

    Also: Where does the line "soulless throat-cutter who would do and say anything to win" come from? That reads like a shallow college newspaper editorial or a Daily Kos post. I expect Newsweek to keep a more grown-up tone.

  • Posted By: akenaten @ 02/07/2008 5:37:59 PM

    Romney lost because he focused too much on proportional states and not enough on winner take all states. The wta states were where you can build a lead in the race and McCain won them all.

    • Posted By: capnmoroni @ 02/07/2008 5:52:26 PM

      True, although I fear that he might not have had enough support in most of those states to win them even if he had campaigned hard there. Interestingly, I did some number crunching this afternoon because I was curious to find out what would have happened if all states divided their delegates strictly proportionally. The delegate count would have been something like this:
      Romney - 412
      McCain - 410
      Huckabee - 230
      Interesting...

  • Posted By: jwwpcw69 @ 02/07/2008 5:33:08 PM

    The author is an idiot and bias.

    • Posted By: daylight @ 02/07/2008 5:51:12 PM

      The Media has always been Bias. They are DEMOCRATS!! Why do you think they all like McCain so much because he is a DEMOCRAT!

  • Posted By: Skiraker @ 02/07/2008 5:51:03 PM

    Putting religion aside. Mr Fineman has spent too much time with that ultimate bigot and hate monger, Kieth Olberman. They are both left wing versions of Wally George.
    Our future is darker now that Romney has dropped out of the race.

  • Posted By: nmstx @ 02/07/2008 5:50:50 PM

    Howard Fineman says more about himself than about Mitt Romney, when he claims Romney ran for President as "something he's not." Even if we decide Romney changed positions more than most candidates, why not conclude that he stretched to be electable in Massachusetts, but that his conservative presidential platform was heartfelt? I suspect Fineman wants the manifestly brilliant Romney to be a centrist rather than a conservative, because Fineman himself leans left and considers centrist positions more defensible.

  • Posted By: gming @ 02/07/2008 5:50:08 PM

    I find it interesting that our nation still has a problem with religious tolerance. We've made great strides in regards to gender equality and racial tolerance. But when someone speaks out of bounds regarding these two subjects, action is quickly taken to correct - and even make an example of - the problem and those who've caused them. I find it most disappointing that Mitt Romney's religion was for many voters, the reason why they couldn't cast a vote for him. It didn't seem to matter much that Romney had experience in the private sector as well as state government, nor the fact that he concentrated on issues, and OUTLINED CLEARLY what it is he would do in order to effect change. I recall an interview with a Florida voter who had just cast her ballot for Mike Huckabee. Asked why she didn???t vote for Romney, her answer was, ???because he???s a Mormon.??? Were there outcries claiming religious discrimination by the Romney camp or the Mormon community? None at all. I can???t believe what would have happened if someone had openly admitted to not voting for Obama merely because of his skin color. It???s so easy in this day and age to openly discriminate a person according to their religion, but so wrong and despicable when it comes to race and gender. Sad.

    Rather, there are many who seem to vote according to what???s popular at the time or what sounds good. In McCain???s case, it???s just because he???s a veteran. Thank you Senator McCain for serving our country, but if just being a veteran qualifies you for the office of President, then every other veteran out there should be President too ??? including my dad. No one seems to consider that McCain changed his position on a number of issues, lied about his remarks regarding his lack of economics, nor the fact that he cheated openly on his first wife. Sounds like a true conservative to me. Nor does anyone consider the fact that McCain???s platform so far has consisted of name-dropping those who???ve endorsed him and the Iraq War. That???s it. Great nominee. Romney???s dropping out will be a huge loss to our nation. But when the time comes when our nation will need serious rescuing, count on Mitt to step in and fix the problem!

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