Burying Mitt

Newsweek Web Exclusive

« Return to Article

Discuss

Member Comments

  • Posted By: PadillaPadilla @ 02/08/2008 7:58:07 AM

    We can all say goodbye to America as we once knew it. As a "Christian" I am disgusted in the representation we have running. Now it's about voting for the lesser of the evils and which one will protect our economy, Safety, and dignity. What would our founding father's think?

    • Posted By: freezyfreakies @ 02/08/2008 8:51:10 AM

      Our founding fathers were violent men who mistreated (beat, raped,killed) other human beings from the American Indians to the black slaves they brought over here for their abuse. So, let's all get rid of the idea that our founding fathers were gods. They were people who were fleeing the repressive British government, but they were not saints by any means. True Christians do not behave the way our forefathers did. When are Christians going to stop whining about candidates who don't fulfill every one of their "religious" view points. Dubya calls himself a Christian and so did Adolf Hitler. Winston Churchill was a very morally bankrupt man. I want someone who is a good leader regardless of their faith. If it were up to christians, Pat Robertson should lead the country. What a disaster that would be. I don't want anyone leading me to be any type of fanatic.

  • Posted By: Robert----55 @ 02/07/2008 9:24:08 PM

    Refuse to vote for McCain. Never, principals over party. Will not be associated with
    a party that condones religeous bigotry, Huckabee/ supporters. Or thats
    allow backroom deals west virginia collusion, or promotes class warfare.
    I'am not mormon, but refuse to be part of a party that condones attacks a mans faith.


    mans

    • Posted By: freezyfreakies @ 02/07/2008 10:24:15 PM

      So, your strategy is to do nothing and let the liberals take over? Good Plan. I'm assuming you are a conservative, maybe not. We are never going to agree with every posistion every person takes, that is life. BTW....McCain fought in a war and was imprisioned so that your rights may be protected.

      • Posted By: wyocby @ 02/07/2008 10:42:25 PM

        I for one will do exactly that! A vote for McCain is a liberal vote that moves both the country and the Republican Party in the wrong direction. A vote for Clinton or Obama is a liberal vote that will move only the country in the wrong direction. I am voting Democrat for the first time in my life! If the Republican Party pulls it's head out it will be the last.

  • Posted By: Wiley Hyena @ 02/08/2008 12:46:11 AM

    Count Dracula is almost impossible to kill, but he can be locked back into his coffin. Last night, Americans rejected yet another Republican installment of the business as usual Wall Street vampire, who was set again to feast upon the drive, energy, and optimism of the American people. This time the specter emerged in the form of Mitt Romney, who although magnificently coifed with a splash of gray, well rehearsed on all the key Republican buzzwords, and convincingly tailored in costumes befitting the President, sank hissing back down into his regaled coffin as Mike Huckabee pushed the Cross of Jesus into his face and John McCain beat back the dark lord's howling minions who were rushing in with microphones and fountain pens to save their master.

    • Posted By: maria_dee @ 02/08/2008 8:27:59 AM

      I disagree with aaron. I liked your post and thought it was pretty creatively executed.

      I think aaron's taking it too literally. (although I did happen to see a smidge of something deep red on the corner of Mitt's mouth during one of the debates)

    • Posted By: aaronminks @ 02/08/2008 3:08:45 AM

      Let me guess....you think of yourself as a true Christian. Surprise! Surprise! Yet another mainstream Christian that can't seem to act like one.

      The only thing Draconian about your comment was your writing style. What, were you reading a fantasy book when you wrote that garbage? Let's break it down.

      To say that Americans rejected Romney is true in a sense. Those that voted for the other candidates did reject Romney. However, those that did vote for him didn't reject him. The number of votes he received (not delegates but actual Americans voting for him) was almost double that of Huckabee and not too far behind McCain so it is a bit of a stretch to say he was rejected. Rather, that the majority of the Americans who voted preferred McCain. See, it isn't hard to just tell it like it is and not make crap up. Moving on...

      Romney, though flawed, is difficult to call "business as usual". He hasn't spent his life in politics. If you've been reading much you will find that all of the other candidates agreed on one thing quite clearly - they hated Romney. Now why would they hate a business as usual guy? Simple, because he hadn't played the game by their rules and they didn't like it - duh! There is even documentation of both Huckabee and McCain directly stating that they didn't care who won as long as it wasn't Romney. Well, you can't get more business than usual than McCain so why wouldn't he be cool with Romney? Answer, Romney was not an average candidate.

      This is beside the point but I am not sure it is correct to refer to a Vampire as a Specter but I may be wrong.

      I'm not sure I heard any hissing on Romney's part - he sounded rather gracious. In fact, they all sound gracious when they step out of a race. But why is it that you think he might be offended by the cross? I mean for a Vampire it is a pychological thing that only works on vampires who were former Christians. The cross bothers them because they have strayed so far from their former Christian path. I mean, how much affect do you think a cross might have on a Jewish vampire? Not any. But Romney is a Mormon. Now, Mormon's do believe in Jesus but they don't use the cross (If Jesus had died in an electric chair would you wear one on a necklace?) so I don't think it would bother him too much. What would irk a Mormon vampire....maybe a nice Jesus teaching the children or something.

      Is Romney Dracula or the Dark Lord? I thought Lord Voldemort from Harry Potter was the Dark Lord. Could you please clarify.

      Let me say that I am completely discombobulated by what you had to say. I really hope there aren't more out there like you. I just had to respond to your post because it was so....well....ridiculous. I actually LOL. Relax for Pete's sake. We're only talking about picking the next leader of the free world, not destroying the Darl Lord of Vampires.

  • Posted By: luckychucky @ 02/08/2008 1:01:03 AM

    Howard is right on the money with this article. Romney was the most one of the most fraudulent presidential candidates I have ever seen. Romney presented himself as the textbook religious conservative, when in reality he had only become one when he decided to run for president. Romney told voters what he thought the wanted to hear rather than what needed to be heard. Romney promised the laid off workers that their jobs would come back under a Romney presidency. But in reality Romney campaigned for the continuation of free trade with foriegn countries. Free trade is largely to blame for so many lost jobs to begin with. So either Romney was lying about getting Michigan workers their jobs back or he poseses magical Mormon powers that ordinary Christian presidents do not. Evidently these magical powers do not extend to winning primaries.

    • Posted By: maria_dee @ 02/08/2008 8:23:37 AM

      Evidently his magic extends to erasing the deficit, according to a poster up the line:

      "As a Real Estate Agent I had seen more than 3700 foreclosures and growing each day. Gov. Romney is the only one who can clean up Washington and turn the US Deficit to Profit just like what he did in the Winter Olympics."

  • Posted By: Bill Abendroth @ 02/08/2008 8:00:07 AM

    Mr. Fineman--
    Re: Your comment that you cannot think of a Presidental campaign that so lost its way so expensively than Gov. Romney's. Why would you say that the wheels flew off of Romney's campaign in a more spectacular fashion than Amerika's (sic) Mayor Guiliani? Granted that Governor Romney's implosion was a pricey bubble, but given the size of Rudy's early lead, and how fast he effortlessly squandered that lead---I think Guiliani's campaign was a bigger disaster....But I can see where reasonable minds may differ.

  • Posted By: rthrash3 @ 02/08/2008 7:48:59 AM

    Mr Fineman, once again you prove that agenda op-eds are more important to Newsweek than true journalism. How about sticking to your ingratiating yourself further to the liberal wing of congress rather than further kicking the conservatives--esp one who has bowed out so gracefully.

  • Posted By: eddiewhere @ 02/08/2008 5:16:56 AM

    MITTS MISSION IS OVER. HE was the REINCARNATION OF BUSH but with NO comPasiion. HE WOULD HAVE LEFT MILLIONS WITHOUT HEALTH CARE and his immigration Plan scared half the AMERICAN PoPulation. I HAD A TOUGH TIME FIGURING OUT WHO WAS THE BIGGEST CLOWN ROMNEY OR RUDY. HAND DOWN RUDY. HOWEVER ROMNEY COMES IN A CLOSE SECOND. THIS GUY FLIP FLOPPED ON EVERY MAJOR ISSUE. HE IS A NUT. HE NEVER LIVED IN THE REAL WORLD. HE has no idea what many AMERICANS GO THROUGH. HIS AGENDA WAS TO FEED THE BUSH BACKER's GREED.


    I noticed you criticized Benson for supporting the JOHN BIRCH SOCIETY. BUT you never criticized him. Benson doctrine is what the MAJORITY of Mormons live by. I would like to see you go to your church and criticize Benson. As mentioned I back my statements up with facts.
    There are many reasons Mormons will not come forth even though they know of the corruption in the Mormon church. One is due to their belief in Mormon scripture which they associate with the Mormon church. The leadership has usurped power and authority over this scripture. Thus, the members of the Mormon church think that God expects them to support their misguided leaders. This is much the - rationalization that many Americans make about our government. They all know of the corruption, but rationalize that it is unpatriotic to talk against the government or ungrateful to complain when they enjoy superficial prosperity."

    THE LINK BETWEEN BUSH FAMILY AND ROMNEY IS HENRY TAFT BENSON. CO FOUNDER OF THE RUSSEL TRUST aka. SKULLS N BONES SOCIETY.

  • Posted By: pugsley72 @ 02/08/2008 4:56:45 AM

    RCurtiss. I think you missread Mr Fineman. He actually praised Romney when saying that by remaining true to his faith (Mormonism) was the one classy act by Romney during his campaign. Implicitly, this means that in his mind, there is nothing particularly 'wrong' with his Mormonism. The fact that it was a political liability is sort of a different issue.

  • Posted By: pugsley72 @ 02/08/2008 4:51:47 AM

    Rcurtiss. I think you missread the author. He actually stated that remaining true to his faith was the one classy thing he did during his campaign.

  • Posted By: rcurtiss @ 02/08/2008 4:11:18 AM

    This is a disgraceful article from a writer with a warped mind and a personal agenda.

    The writer himself is an example of why Romney didn't win--because of misperceptions about Romney and his religion.

    Yes, Romney and his religion are just too good to be true--but guess what, they are!

  • Posted By: Thomas A. O'Brien @ 02/08/2008 3:46:52 AM

    Mr. Fineman,

    Please???you???re joking right? McCain is the sure bet and his last serious opponent is Huckabee? Both of them have been coasting on fumes for months and were equally broke...neither of them came into this quarter with positive ink on the ledgers and they are still limping along! Neither one of these candidates is a conservative and both are just as guilty of what you are suggesting of Romney in attempting a galvanized ???conservative??? sell job on the GOP base.

    Are you seriously attempting to tell any Republican constitutional fiscal conservative voter that these two are the only viable choices remaining? Listen up ??? it shouldn???t be too hard to understand that the original ???magnificent??? eleven got whittled down to three because they couldn???t generate funding! No one obviously had enough faith in their candidacy to occasionally toss them a bone or two. They all ended up starving for funds and crashed and burned because of their lack of solid grassroots support ??? you name it - from Giuliani to Duncan Hunter ??? all left with red ink limping back home in total defeat.

    Ron Paul has never had a funding problem. He has been flush the entire time. Ron Paul is in for the long haul and you better get use to seeing that handsome devil may care face ??? cause he???s not going away. You can bet on it!

    Ron Paul is the only conservative in the GOP race! He generated more grassroots funding than all other 2008 GOP candidates past and present. He has more support from active and retired military than all candidates in both parties combined. His conservative congressional record can not be challenged. He has the most extensive federal financial management expertise and is garnering more GOP base endorsements daily. His platform is completely constitutional in the traditions of Barry Goldwater and Ronald Reagan. He is the logical choice for any GOP conservative for 2008.

    Please save your baloney for someone that will buy it.

  • Posted By: eddiewhere @ 02/08/2008 3:45:49 AM

    MITT"S MISSION IS OVER I REST MY CASE>
    THE CASE OF THE CLOWN HAS BEEN SOLVED>
    BRONZE MEDAL
    ALREADY LOST ENOUGH MONEY
    QUITTER.

  • Posted By: eddiewhere @ 02/08/2008 3:45:31 AM

    MITTS MISSION IS OVER. HE was the REINCARNATION OF BUSH but with NO comPasiion. HE WOULD HAVE LEFT MILLIONS WITHOUT HEALTH CARE and his immigration Plan scared half the AMERICAN PoPulation. I HAD A TOUGH TIME FIGURING OUT WHO WAS THE BIGGEST CLOWN ROMNEY OR RUDY. HAND DOWN RUDY. HOWEVER ROMNEY COMES IN A CLOSE SECOND. THIS GUY FLIP FLOPPED ON EVERY MAJOR ISSUE. HE IS A NUT. HE NEVER LIVED IN THE REAL WORLD. HE has no idea what many AMERICANS GO THROUGH. HIS AGENDA WAS TO FEED THE BUSH BACKER's GREED.


    I noticed you criticized Benson for supporting the JOHN BIRCH SOCIETY. BUT you never criticized him. Benson doctrine is what the MAJORITY of Mormons live by. I would like to see you go to your church and criticize Benson. As mentioned I back my statements up with facts.
    There are many reasons Mormons will not come forth even though they know of the corruption in the Mormon church. One is due to their belief in Mormon scripture which they associate with the Mormon church. The leadership has usurped power and authority over this scripture. Thus, the members of the Mormon church think that God expects them to support their misguided leaders. This is much the - rationalization that many Americans make about our government. They all know of the corruption, but rationalize that it is unpatriotic to talk against the government or ungrateful to complain when they enjoy superficial prosperity."

    THE LINK BETWEEN BUSH FAMILY AND ROMNEY IS HENRY TAFT BENSON. CO FOUNDER OF THE RUSSEL TRUST aka. SKULLS N BONES SOCIETY.

  • Posted By: macinaz @ 02/08/2008 2:43:41 AM

    Romney lost my vote during the debate when McCain hammered him on supporting "timetables". As a business person he should be perfectly comfortable with terminology such as timetables, schedules, milestones, objectives or any word or phase that means we need to get specific things done in some period of time. Instead he sat their with a "deer in the headlights" look making weak denials. Romney has no convictions. He has no political soul. No one I know cares about his religious beliefs.

    • Posted By: aaronminks @ 02/08/2008 3:26:52 AM

      it was the timetable issue that got you. I wouldn't admit to that if I were you. Almost all media across the board said that his comment taken in full made it quite clear that he didn't mean what McCain said he did and McCain new it. Just go read the original quote. It is even more stupid because the only republican who supports leaving Iraq is Ron Paul. As a businessman I use the word timetable all the time. It means having objectives specified in order to achieve a goal in a timely fashion. They better have some timetables in Iraq. Anyway, if you want to look smart with your friends I would quite saying that was your basis for making the switch because it is fairly well known that "timetables" was a well orchestrated McCain trick.

  • Posted By: carmstrong909 @ 02/08/2008 2:43:29 AM

    So Fineman is happy now that Gov. Romney is gone right? Partying? Drinking liquor, destroying a few brain cells. So be careful of what you want, you'll get it. But this isnot what I want, Lots of people are mourning, Gov. Romney has more than 4 Million votes, has won 11 or so states, here in California we voted for him because of the economy. As a Real Estate Agent I had seen more than 3700 foreclosures and growing each day. Gov. Romney is the only one who can clean up Washington and turn the US Deficit to Profit just like what he did in the Winter Olympics. I cried for America. tonight. I love Gov. Romney's family and I am grateful for those who supported him and his family. I am grateful for my courageous candidate Gov. Romney, who bravely showed the world his faith and what he stands for. His family is not phony, he is the most conservative out of all the Republican Candidates running. Best Wishes to my future president someday. The choice of majority, long live Gov. Romney!!

  • Posted By: devfab4 @ 02/08/2008 12:43:01 AM

    If only people knew what mormons truely believed they woudl see he is a fake and phony just like the John Smith. The gardnen of eden located in MO come on let's use our brains. The whole religion is a scam and that mormons who voted truely had no choice they are directed who to vote for while they are not forced the mormon religion controls all aspects of their members lives and monies, which is where I am sure a lot of his campaign monies came from.

    • Posted By: aaronminks @ 02/08/2008 2:35:25 AM

      I'm trying to figure how by the application of my brain I am supposed to deduce where the Garden of Eden was. I don't get that.
      Here's another thing I don't get, why the man's religion is even a topic of discussion. Boring.

    • Posted By: wyocby @ 02/08/2008 12:53:41 AM

      WOW you really are a loon! oh, and by the way it's Joseph Smith...I think John Smith had something to do with Sacagawea. It's always funny when the anti-mormon crowd shows their ignorance!

  • Posted By: Woody 01 @ 02/07/2008 4:01:47 PM

    I will admit that Mitt Romney has had a few political gaffes in his career. ALL politicians do, some more than others and some worse than others. However, the biggest obstacle that he has had to overcome is his membership in The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (the "Mormons").

    It is very difficult to run for a national political office if you are a member of the Church. Most local, state and congressional offices are not that difficult. Example, Harry Reid of Nevada is a member of the LDS Church and has become one of the most powerful senators in Washington, D.C.

    Through out the campaign, others who have ran politically and also the press in general, have questioned Mr. Romney's religious background, citing incorrectly, that the L.D.S. Church is nothing more than a cult. It is not a cult, and members in general take this as an insult. It is one of the fastest growing Churches in the United States today. When ones faith, beliefs and religion are attacked on a daily basis by the so-called "Mainstream" Christian religions and by the press, it becomes very difficult to overcome the constant negativity. Pres. John F. Kennedy overcame this in the 1960s, because Catholicism was and still is a "Mainstream" Church.

    Religion has NO PLACE in politics. One's religion should NEVER be an issue. The Constitution of the United States guarantees "Separation of Church and State", which means that the United States Government SHALL NOT ESTABLISH NOR SPONSOR ANY RELIGION.

    Many people say we, as members of that Church, are not "Christian" or "Mainstream" Christian just because we have different concepts and beliefs than others. ALL religions have different beliefs from others. Even religions who claim to be the same (some Baptists churches, and many others) differ from area to area as to what they believe and what they believe is right and wrong. The Catholic church changes from country to country.

    Mega Churches (televangelists) all believe differently from congregation to congregation.

    Many churches in the world will change their doctrine and beliefs to satisfy the masses in order to gain membership. The L.D.S. Church does not change doctrine. The individual is the one that needs to change.

    Enough said. Mitt Romney was and still is the best qualified to lead this nation, but until individuals can overcome their prejudices against the L.D.S. Church, the same problem will exist, regardless of which member of the L.D.S. Church runs for national office.

    • Posted By: brian.glanz @ 02/08/2008 2:35:13 AM

      Religion should be, and is, an issue in politics and in all things.

      Race should not be. Gender should not be. Whether you were born rich, poor, or with one leg should not be. Race, gender, wealth or poverty, and agility should not be factors in politics and many other things because one is born that way.

      Religion should be and is a factor because one chooses religion.

      Whether one believes in the angel Moroni or in the archangel Michael, or both, or neither, one's beliefs are both a choice and for many, the most fundamental source of their perspective and philosophy. It is not only legitimate, it is responsible and it is critical that we consider to whom and to what one has submitted one's whole self and decision making.

    • Posted By: magic823 @ 02/07/2008 4:05:03 PM

      CULT speak.

  • Posted By: Johnny1967 @ 02/07/2008 7:37:05 PM

    Granted, Mitt Romney is a rightous family man. Also, there are many Mormons who would make great Presidents. Furthermore, there are some people who would not vote for a Mormon... or a Black, or a Woman, or a Muslim, or a Gay.... whatever.

    However, Mitt Romney did not lose because he is a Mormon. He lost because he was not fit to be President. He made too many mistakes during the campaign. Most damaging was that the American people did not find him to be genuine.

    I can understand LDS members of getting angry if Romney lost solely because of his religious faith. But that clearly is not the case.

    What is shocking is that the Mormon group voted for Romney solely because he was a Mormon. Can anyone explain to me why 95 percent of Mormons voted for Romeny in Nevada and Utah? What the hell is that! Do not expect the American people to vote for Romney just because he is a Mormon.

    • Posted By: hillplus @ 02/07/2008 9:13:12 PM

      I am LDS and voted for Romney because he was the smartest, most successful and honorable person running. The fact that he is also LDS is a double edged sword. While I knew that he was a moral man who loves the Lord, I also did not want my faith to abused by bigots any more than it has already been. Bottom line, I VOTED FOR HIM BECAUSE HE WAS THE VERY BEST CANDIDATE!

      • Posted By: Johnny1967 @ 02/07/2008 9:55:06 PM

        Given all of your personal preferences, you voted for him because you believed he was the best candidate. Other disagree about Romney being the best candidate.

        I am making the point that rationalizing Romneys loss on his religion is denial. Somehow blaming his loss on bigots is ludicrous and unbecoming. Romney loss is due to his own shortcomings. If the Mormons want to see a Mormon President, then they have to wait until a more qualified candidate appears.

        The United States went through several black candidates before Obama showed up. You dont see Obama complaining he lost California or other states because he is black. You dont see Hillary complaining losing states because she is a woman.

        The Blacks who complained about not having a black President never helped Obama. The Woman who complained about not having a Woman President never helped HIllary. The Mormons who complain about not having a Mormon President will not help get a Mormon elected.

        Its so unbecoming of Romney and some of his supporters to blame his loss on everything other than Romneys shortcoming. He always has an excuse, whether due to bigots, McCain supporters, Huckabee supporters, whatever. He has yet to blame is lackluster results on his negative ads, his wishy washy, or anything else.

        • Posted By: wyocby @ 02/07/2008 11:35:10 PM

          Romney has never claimed he lost because of his religion...others have but he has not. I would claim that it had a part in his loss. Check the surveys...Mormon was right above Muslim and Athiest below all other religions, women, and Blacks. So don't claim it had nothing to do with it. The other big factor was media coverage like this rediculous article. Just click on Romney's name to bring up all the articles written on him and you won't find one positive. Click on McCain and you won't find one negative. But the negative McCain articles will come now that they got the one they wanted. I never thought I would say this but I'm ready for Obama or Clinton.

          • Posted By: Johnny1967 @ 02/08/2008 1:26:53 AM

            The point is that no one likes a sore loser.

            No denying it. Many people refuse to vote for a Mormon. It is a factor. But its Romneys job to overcome that prejudice. Just like JFK overcame the religious thing. Or just as Bush overcame the alcoholic thing. Just as Obama got over the Black thing. Just as Hillary got over the woman thing. Just as Guiliani got over the mydrid of things. Huckabee got over the bonehead thing. Whatever, all of the candidates have a handicap.

            Also, although Romney didnt get the greatest publicity from the mainstream outlets it was not that bad. Almost all of the candidates complain about the coverage. But its the candidates responsibility to control the story. For one, they cant say stupid things for the media to show in a soundbite.

            However, notice, Romney did get unfair POSITIVE coverage by the conservative talk radio. McCain got a bad rap from the talk radio but he overcame it.

            Also after Romneys religion speech, the mainstream media ate it up. Initially, the coverage was embarrasing good. Its the public that didnt buy it. That was Romneys shortcoming of speech and logic skills... not the medias fault. He said in the speech that he did not believe the American would judge him on his religion. Well, either he was right and he lost on the merits. Or he was wrong, which means he has bad judgment.

            Anyway, getting elected President is not easy. Romney didnt have what it took to get to the Presidency. Period. Anyone who blames Romneys failure on anything other than Romneys shortcoming is not realistic.

            Overall, Romney lost fair and square.

            • Posted By: wyocby @ 02/08/2008 2:33:03 AM

              No....he didn't loose fair and square but at this point that is beside the point. It's over for him unless he decides to run again. As far as McCain overcoming the talk radio "conservative" thing....well we will see in November my friend...a phrase so over done by McCain. Did he pick that up from Sean Hannity or did Sean pick that up from him?

    • Posted By: Nick manutd @ 02/07/2008 7:43:48 PM

      ok I don't really agree with you on this one as a member of the lds church i disagree with your comment of saying the only reason mormons voted for romney is because he was a mormon. We voted for him cause we know the values he has and that he is a good honest man and would do great things for this country. we're voting for a president not a religion lead.

      • Posted By: Johnny1967 @ 02/07/2008 8:04:29 PM

        I agree that Mitt Romney is a very rightious person. He is capable and smart. I will also say that if he was elected, he may have been a very good President.

        But, when 95 percent of Mormons vote for a Mormon, you cannot claim that his religion was not an overriding reason for voting for him. That is fine. All minority groups do it. The Constitution allows each person one vote. And each person can vote for whatever reason, even based on religion. . However, it leads to the conclusion that Mormons should not blame others for voting against a Mormon.

        Granted, maybe if Romney was a rich Baptist, he would have gotten the nomination. But then again, without wealth, Romney would not have beaten McCain, Thomson, or Guliani. So its crazy to bring up all the what ifs. As a whole, Romney lost fair and square.

        • Posted By: wyocby @ 02/07/2008 11:39:01 PM

          No, Johnycakes, it wasn't fair or square. With media coverage like this article it was anything but fair. But that's O.K. the media will get Clinton like they have wanted all along.

    • Posted By: orrdc @ 02/07/2008 7:43:06 PM

      Just a thought - maybe the people of UT voted for Governor Romney because their church teaches them to have integrity (and he lived there, didn't he?). I know several members of the Mormon faith and they are pretty normal, nice people.

      • Posted By: Johnny1967 @ 02/07/2008 8:28:24 PM

        The Mormon faith is superb. But the members are not perfect.

        Romeny would have won the nomination if he was more determinative. At the very least, he would have won if he did not appear to be pushed and pulled by the media, results, polls, his advisors, and the religious issues.

    • Posted By: MauiMan @ 02/07/2008 7:55:32 PM

      Maybe you c an reply on why so many evangelicals voted for Huckabee. Was it because he was a Great Governor in Arkansas?

      • Posted By: Johnny1967 @ 02/07/2008 8:14:56 PM

        Each evangelicals voted for Huckabee over Romney based on some (or none) of the following factors: (1) they would not vote for a Mormon, (2) they preferred an evangelical, (3) Huckabee seemed genuine, (4) Romney did not seem genuine, (5) Romney used negative ads. There are many other factors which may have swayed evangelicals for voting for Huckabee over Romney.

    • Posted By: MauiMan @ 02/07/2008 7:58:46 PM

      Maybe you can comment on why so many Evangelicals voted for huckabee. His record as Governor of Arkansas is not sterling. And as for McCain, look at the man who changes with time. Is he for Tax Cuts or not? Oh yeah, what day is it? Lose the chip on your shoulder. All change their views. Even you.

  • Posted By: aaronminks @ 02/08/2008 2:26:15 AM

    Ah, yet another pointy headed intellectual bobbing his head in front of a man whose shoelace he is not worthy to tie. Man this story is boring. Of course Romney said and did things that seemed phony. Don't they all? I mean come on, McCain referring to himself as a Reagan foot soldier - give me a freaking break.
    Here is the thing, Romney came so close in Florida and if he had pulled out a win there (he might have if it weren't for McCain's weekend scheme to misrepresent something Romney had said) Super Tuesday would have been a different affair. Heck, the back door politics McCain pulled in West Virginia by effectively manipulating the will of the people and bestowing a win on Huckabee may have cost Romney tons of votes across the country. I agree that he should have stuck on the economics but this thing was close, not in delegates but in actual votes. Personally, I don't care if a politician changes their position. If I did mind I wouldn't be able to vote for anyone other than Ron Paul. Every average person I know changes their mind and on important issues. So what. If you take ownership and say, "I've changed" then fine.

  • Posted By: carmstrong909 @ 02/08/2008 2:22:38 AM

    Watch this video: Mormon Myths and Reality.
    www.youtube.com/user/carmstrong909

Reply

Report Abuse

Enter comments if any for reporting abuse