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Turn Out the Red Light?

Amsterdam plans to close down its most famous district, citing sleaze, criminal activity and human trafficking. Not everybody is happy about it.

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  • Posted By: Rex Bones @ 04/14/2009 2:17:01 PM

    I have been to Amsterdam 4 times now. They have been the 4 best vacations of my life. However, If Amsterdam were to close the coffee shops and Red Light District, I would not return.

  • Posted By: Rex Bones @ 04/14/2009 2:15:07 PM

    I have been to Amsterdam 4 times now. These have been the 4 best vacations of my life. But I must admit that if the coffeeshops and red light district were closed down, I would not return.

  • Posted By: martialguy @ 12/07/2008 4:22:34 PM

    If it is the Dutch way to increase Dutch population in...heaven, then it might be too late.
    Heaven is now full with Christians from America, filled with crispy green cash from stocks sales. The bills even say...In God We Trust

  • Posted By: SWEET._. @ 02/09/2008 10:22:21 AM

    GREEN; WHILE WE SHOULD ALL HAVE FREEDOM, THERE COMES A POINT WHERE YOU HAVE TO CONSIDER THE SAFETY AND THE GREATER GOOD, RATHER THAN THE RIGHTS OF THE IMMORAL WHICH HAVE ALWAYS BEEN DESTRUCTIVE WHETHER YOU CHOOSE TO ACKNOWLEDGE IT OR NOT. I ALSO SENSE YOU MAY NOT HAVE AN OUNCE OF RESPECT FOR WOMEN AND ONLY RELATE TO WOMEN WHO HAVE NO RESPECT FOR THEMSELVES.

    • Posted By: ingiebingie @ 08/08/2008 7:52:53 AM

      women and men have different sexual needs and drives..alot of men are in the red light ,because they can appreciate the beauty of the female form, and it can leads to emense sexual pleasure, its very simpel....women in the u.s (because of illegal prostitution)have been given to much power in sexual relations, because the man doesnt have a choice.,they are spoiled in there demands and attitudes.

  • Posted By: SWEET._. @ 02/09/2008 10:36:04 AM

    SERIOUSLY, HAVE ANY OF YOU ACTUALLY BEEN TO THE RLD???I WAS THERE ONCE AND AS A YOUNG ATTRACTIVE EDUCATED FEMALE FROM THE US I FOUND IT TO BE ENTIRELY UGLY, SAD, AND ENTIRELY DEPRESSING. THE ONLY THING MORE DISTURBING THAN THE USED UP OPPRESSED WOMEN IN THE WINDOWS, NONE OF WHICH I FOUND EVEN REMOTELY ATTRACTIVE ALTHOUGH NOT MY MAIN POINT, WAS THE CREEPY GROSS GUYS HANGING AROUND. I FELT UNSAFE AND THE SENSE OF FEMALE OPPRESSION WAS IMMENSE, MEN WHO WORKED THERE WERE ANGRY WHEN I WOULD NOT ENTER PLACES, THEY WERE USED TO CONTROLLING AND OPRESSING WOMEN, VERY SCARY AND UPSETTING EXPERIENCE FOR ME. THE SEX SHOWS WERE GROSS TOO, REAL LOW LIFE, UNLESS OF COURSE YOUR OF THE JERRY SPRINGER CONTESTANT MENTALITLY.

    I DO BELIEVE ANY MAN WHO SUPPORTS THIS HORRID ENVIRONMENT FOR WOMEN HAS NO RESPECT FOR WOMEN AND CAN ONLY HANDLE/RELATE TO WOMEN WHO ARE OPPRESSED AND HAVE NO RESPECT FOR THEMSELVES.

    • Posted By: ingiebingie @ 08/08/2008 7:45:19 AM

      there you have it,, a attractive american women who has lost all her power, has no control herself,in an area where creepy cross guys can get all the sex they can pay for,and is bitching about men being controlling and oppressive. thats what the red light is for ,because of u.s women thinking like this. In every state in america prostitution is illegal, except 1. It gives (u.s)women to much sexual power over men and denies denies men there sexual rights.

    • Posted By: usap @ 02/09/2008 11:07:30 AM

      The RLD sounds as gross and smelly as Bourbon Street in New Orleans, which was a real dump BEFORE the hurricane, so it's probably much worse now.

  • Posted By: SWEET._. @ 02/09/2008 10:55:45 AM

    TAKE A WALK WITH YOUR WIFE, GF, SISTER AND/OR MOTHER AND SEE IF YOU LIKE THEY WAY THEY ARE LOOKED AT AND TREATED, THE ENVIROMENT IS HOSTILE TO WOMEN IN GENERAL. WILL YOU BE HAPPY WHEN CREEPY GUYS LOOK AT THEM IN A SICK WAY OR WHEN THEY CURSE THEM FOR CHOOSING NOT TO SEE THE UGLY FREAK SEX SHOWS THEY HAVE?????YOUR NOT MUCH OF A MAN IF YOU THINK THIS IS ACCEPTABLE.

    • Posted By: ingiebingie @ 08/08/2008 7:28:34 AM

      be honest, you dont know what a orgasm is and you dont want to look at a penis, right...

  • Posted By: SWEET._. @ 02/09/2008 11:12:57 AM

    DSPOT70:IT'S A VERY SAD DAY WHEN YOU ARE AN ADVOCATE FOR TOLERANCE AND ACCEPTANCE OF OPPRESSION AND DEGRADATION OF WOMEN!!

    • Posted By: ingiebingie @ 08/08/2008 7:21:44 AM

      imagine trying to get sex from this bitch! everyone is oppressed and degraded by the system,you are no perfect individual, you must remember alot of women make alot of money and choose to do this. you go on holiday,you stay in a hotel ,do you check who owns the building and how they got it! we cant know everything about everybody, tell us ,is it painful penitration?

  • Posted By: ingiebingie @ 08/08/2008 5:30:46 AM

    by trance guitarist ingie bingie holleywood
    if anything the red light should spread more , not shrivel up!
    the council took a vote "porno tourism sucks" ja or naye.

  • Posted By: stevemotivateire @ 08/06/2008 2:53:14 AM

    Your "red herrings" number in the millions and the profit pulled in off others suffering runs in the billions now. There's no freedom in that -or humanity. I guess it's safe to assume the services available through your website may include those red herrings.

  • Posted By: asiaerotica.com @ 05/28/2008 2:46:55 PM

    Its time for people that are pro sex to stand up and make foolish the buzzwords of the moralists. "Forced Prostitution , "Crime" and the like are just red herrings. There can be humanity and free and open sexuality. IF those among us that enjoy that freedom stand up for it

  • Posted By: go2c @ 05/28/2008 8:03:25 AM

    I think Amsterdam is a great city also without the red light district. You can see my video`s about how beatiful Amsterdam is at www.go2c-amsterdam.tv

  • Posted By: go2c @ 05/28/2008 8:03:12 AM

    I think Amsterdam is a great city also without the red light district. You can see my video`s about how beatiful Amsterdam is at www.go2c-amsterdam.tv

  • Posted By: stevemotivateire @ 04/13/2008 4:13:51 AM

    People who indulge in prostitution will tell themselves what they feel they have to in order to justify what they have done, do, or want to do. Nothing more than excuses to keep from feeling guilty. For those who don't know any better, organized crime in Amsterdam is nothing new. Pimping and trafficking is nothing new. Freedom is the wrong word to associate with prostitution. In many cases, prostitution is the wrong word to describe the selling of sexual services because prostitution indicates a choice. With most women in the sex industry, there is no choice. And even if there is initially, it isn't long before the willing become victims as well. Work in a shelter for survivors of violence or a womens assistance organization and you'll learn all about it real quick. The rumors tourists hear from locals come from their media. And guess what.... they are documented cases, not rumors. Have any doubts, about foreign women there? Have a local take you through the RLD and point out the Dutch women if you can't tell yourself. The black, dark skinned, and those with Slavic accents just may not be as Dutch as some wish to believe. True fans of freedom would take action to ensure that all people are free rather than use it as an excuse to abuse it. Creating demand for a shady industry isn't going to help anyone. You're part of the solution, or part of the problem. Unfortunately, it is not likely the entire RLD will be shut down. A smaller area would certainly help make things easier for social service officers and police to monitor and control things though. Again, there is far more to human trafficking than what most people think they know. What I've posted doesn't even scratch the surface.

  • Posted By: amsrot07 @ 04/13/2008 12:43:48 AM

    Amsterdam without a Red Light District. I don't see it happening anytime soon.I'm sure the country knows that tourism will greatly be effected,if the RLD ever closed down,but I'll give the authorities credit for cracking down on organized crime.Geert Wilders is probaly right about the Turks and Moroccans "trafficking" women into forced prostitution,because I heard similar stories and rumors by the locals a few months ago.But,then again those are just rumors.Approximately,two years ago during the summer the RLD was packed shoulder to shoulder and thriving with business.This last December I saw the opposite from the previous year and found most of the available windows literally empty.The point being is I would hate to see something better than a strip club slowly come to a stand still and the oldest proffession that started in Amsterdam during 15th century be forgotten,because "criminals"ruined it for everyone.In closing,I respect women working behind the windows and the true freedom that exists in the Netherlands.dutch071606@yahoo.com

  • Posted By: amsrot07 @ 04/12/2008 11:46:45 PM

    Amsterdam without a Red Light District.I don't see it happening anytime soon.I'm sure the politicians are all aware that tourism will be effected,but I will give them credit for cleaning up the organized crime that's occuring.Geert Wilders is probally right about the Turks and Moroccans "trafficking" women from other countries,because I've heard similar stories during my stay a few months ago.But,then again those were just stories and rumors from the locals.All I know is two years ago during the summer the RLD was packed at night and last December many of the windows not bought out were literally empty.The point being is I would hate to see something better than a strip club become almost non-existent and the oldest proffession of the trade that started in the 13th century slowly disappear.In closing,I enjoy the the real true rfreedom

  • Posted By: THowell817 @ 04/11/2008 2:56:06 PM

    The previous comment was brilliantly stated. There is a huge problem with the hedonistic mentality of the members of current society who are obviously not intelligent enough to look into the future and brainstorm about the negative ramifications (psychosocial, physical, emotional, financial, etc.) that might be done by perpetuating the legalization of this type of activity. That's not to mention the damage it has on the human psyche and and any hope of a loving, caring future society.

  • Posted By: stevemotivateire @ 04/11/2008 12:22:09 PM

    When people here the words "human trafficking", they think they know all they need to know. Men don't want to think of Amsterdam's RLD as a place of forced prostitution, most actually think it clear and safe of the that. Fact is, most women in the RLD are not Dutch, they from all over the world and they are not living a life-long dream of being a prostitute and servicing strange men. Keeping this brief, what people need to know is that they are not likely to know if a woman is trafficked. The psychological conditioning is fierce and can last up to 6 months before a girl is forced to work. You would never know if the woman was forced or not but a safe bet would be that she is not there by choice. The woman is not going to tell you. Eliminating the RLD would drive this industry to the streets and to other cities, but the bottom line is that it would reduce numbers and make things difficult for traffickers. The more difficult the business becomes, the less likely it will continue. If nothing else, less women will be victimized and less money will be in the pockets of the people who terrorize them. Of course many people will argue these points but keep in mind it is a numbers game. I have researched and worked in this field since 2002.

  • Posted By: amsrot07 @ 04/10/2008 8:13:27 PM

    I've got four words to say:Over my dead body! I've been to Amsterdam twice and will continue going there in the future.The first girl I got laid with was from the RLD and so was the second and third.I wasn't judged by my race or nationality unlike here in the U.S.I'm totally against forced prostitution anywhere it occurs and can understand this being an issue.This is what I personally believe:First,the real problem is organized crime, pimps,and human trafficking.Second,if the RLD ever shuts down tourists like myself will go elsewhere like Hungary,Switzerland,or Germany and tourism will drop in Amsterdam.I'm Hispanic,25 years old, very well educated and like Dutch women,including other European women.

  • Posted By: mick120 @ 03/11/2008 10:03:23 PM

    More importantly, has anyone that has been there recently noticed a dramatic change already? Or is it business as usual?

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