A shadowy, loose-knit consortium of activists and hackers called 'Anonymous' is just the latest thorn in Scientology's side.
Comment: You will break. Everything does.
Afterwards, please remember that we didn't do it because we hate you. We did it because we could and because we enjoyed it.
We are Anonymous.
We are You.
Comment: You will break. Everything does,
Comment:
what can we learn from this. Well lets see. There's religious bigotry. There's misinformation
& media manipulation. Qui bono? Qui might bono? The masks say it all. Where there isn't any responsibility, there isn't any credibility. Who better than an ANONYMOUS entity to make unsubstantiated claims & ridiculous parallels. & these are just the broader, public & systemic issues. On the personal level, when was the last instance you sought approval for your beliefs. Did you check the internet before your wedding? How about checking your social networks administers opinion about the leader of your church.
Or how about the person you haven't seen in your church for a while. Did you make a missing persons report & assume they have been "disappeared".
I can answer all these questions for you, NO because you didn't ask my permission. Had you, I would have laughed. Which is my response to masked, anonymous, whiners. I don't want, seek or need your approval. This was assured more than 250 years ago.
We have many more important issues these "effective(ly) targeted communication tools" could be used for.
But no, we're wasting them on whether or not some religious bigots feel "validated" or "liked".
Comment: Lumar, you don't have a clue what Scientology is, do you? Are you allowed to investigate Scientology?
Comment: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6eNyBrQUKs Yes, Anonymous understand very well, and as an ex-member I see that Anonymous spots this cult for exactly what it is -- a money-making cult. Anonymous welcomes the investigation into the allegations of gross child neglect, sexual abuse, forced abortions, heavily coerced family disconnection by leaders of the Cult of Scientology.
Comment: Those of us who have been fighting Corporate Scientology on the Internet since the 1990s are extremely grateful a large group as Anonymous is willing to take on the Cult of Greed and Power. I hope they manage to stay Anonymous since Scientology will attack them as viciously as they have attacked us for criticizing the Criminal Corporation. The intern al mindset of Scientology can be terrifying to the educated. As and example just substitue the word "Jew" for SP (critics) in Tom Cruises words,"Have you ever met an SP? Won't it be great when SPs will only be in history books?." Hubbards Holocaust is not going to happen but it is a frightening and disgusting goal someone of Cruise supposed social standing would advocate.
Comment: Notice how many times Dr. Zook repeats the words childish and psychotic. You don't suppose he is on PsychoPharm drugs that are causing this babble?
Comment: Re. the 'Anonymous' protests against the Church of Scientology on Feb 10: unfortunately I can say that the reporting of the success of these protests has been somewhat distorted. I was present at the Manchester UK protest. 'Anonymous' sources state that the Manchester Scientology centre was closed due to the protest when quite to the contrary it remained open all day with a regular influx of visitors attending courses at the centre. The centre staff were largely unphased by the demo which appears to have been manned by a rent-a-crowd from the local university many of whom seemed to have little knowledge of Scientology.
Comment: Very true - I spoke to a bunch of them. They didn't have a clue what Scientology is. For a lot of beer and parties, they'll hold up any sign you want.
Comment: Very true - I spoke to a bunch of them. They didn't have a clue what Scientology is. For a lot of beer and parties, they'll hold up any sign you want.
Comment: Search wikipedia for r2-45
Knowledge is free, inform yourselves.
Comment: www.whyaretheydead.net
Comment:
No blasphemy can mar my name
so blaspheme if you will
so pure it is that Name
that no speakingness can soil it.
Appoint amongst you some small few
to tell lies and invent wicked things
and spread out infamy abroad and within
and to stand before our altars and insult and lie
and tell evil rumors about us all.
For all is Life to Buddha.
All is Life.
No blasphemy now can mar the name of Buddha, Lord.
Each revilement is a prayer
for just the mention of the name
then cleanses all.
Mention the Name
and do not worry if you think some stray
condemning thought or doubt.
Mention the Name
its holiness is such it can withstand
all bludgeoning.
Consult with prayer
be calm and you will know.
You could know of yourselves
all that of which I speak
and so don't argue or dispute when some come up to you
and say another thing
for if they knew all truly
they would then say what I say
and what Lord Buddha said.
Be attentive now.
You have preserved only a bit
of what Lord Buddha said.
He said much more
but then there came men who said other things
and changed a piece of this, a bit of that,
and so we strayed.
Censor not free speech and censor not free thought
but recall in all these twenty-five centuries
none came and spoke the Great Lessons again
nor added to them then to make you free.
I speak then so you can agree.
So speak and think whatever you will
but come again to these Lessons
if you stray and become lost
and slaves as you have been.
With these and your agreement to
we now can build the Eastern and the Western worlds
into one great brotherhood of Man.
Excerpt from Hymn of Asia
an Eastern Poem
by L. Ron Hubbard.
Comment: A possible solution for Tom Cruise's quarrel with the Bundesrepublik Deutschlands: Maybe he can send the galactic tyrant Xenu to exile Chancelor Andrea Merkel into a volcano to be vaporized by bombs.
This guys a freak.
Comment: I was at the flee market last weekend and someone offered me a free stress test so i said sure why not, and the guy had this little electric machine,and i hold on to it and he says think about someone that you love and boom the needle pins way over and he says i'm stressed out, (i had thought about my husband of 25 years who passed away 2 years ago.) so then he tries to pimp the latest s. book on me. well i have to tell you i told him the only book i need is the word and its FREE. the word has served me for 53 years and has given me all the enlightenment i can take ;-)) he shut up quick because you can't argue against the word and he knew it. sneeky approach he had but i saw right though it and will never understand how folks fall for that garbage.
Comment: If you want to learn about Scientology, see Ted Koppel interview the current and longstanding leader of it:
Scientology leader, David Miscavige interviewed on Emmy Award-winning Nightline show, 1992.
Parts 1 - 9
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWUasKX3FZE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Es2D6kbHbW0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfppmUxbzBc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_H6BBItttq0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kiR7CPbhFOs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eM4Dp8czxjM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xEFl2yBsj54
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TldGZSd0Ih4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kuDR3dxdfQ
Knowledge is Power
Ask Questions
Find Answers
Comment: How is this news? I just checked out the video on youtube and while I'm against Scientology, "anonymous" make themselves look even creepier than them. You can tell this is written by very young people and I can think of five other more worthy of news space than this. What's next? "Church pamphlet left on bus seat sat on"? Come on Newsweek!
Tom Cruise is the only reason need NOT to get involved with Scientology.
Comment: You are either a Scientologist or a very misguided and ignorant poster. Please take five minutes and do a little research.
Comment:
No blasphemy can mar my name
so blaspheme if you will
so pure it is that Name
that no speakingness can soil it.
Appoint amongst you some small few
to tell lies and invent wicked things
and spread out infamy abroad and within
and to stand before our altars and insult and lie
and tell evil rumors about us all.
For all is Life to Buddha.
All is Life.
No blasphemy now can mar the name of Buddha, Lord.
Each revilement is a prayer
for just the mention of the name
then cleanses all.
Mention the Name
and do not worry if you think some stray
condemning thought or doubt.
Mention the Name
its holiness is such it can withstand
all bludgeoning
consult with prayer
be calm and you will know.
You could know of yourselves
all that of which I speak
and so don't argue or dispute when some come up to you
and say another thing
for if they knew all truly
they would then say what I say
and what Lord Buddha said.
Be attentive now.
You have preserved only a bit
of what Lord Buddha said.
He said much more
but then there came men who said other things
and changed a piece of this, a bit of that,
and so we strayed.
Censor not free speech and censor not free thought
but recall in all these twenty-five centuries
none came and spoke the Great Lessons again
nor added to them then to make you free.
I speak then so you can agree.
So speak and think whatever you will
but come again to these Lessons
if you stray and become lost
and slaves as you have been.
With these and your agreement to
we now can build the Eastern and the Western worlds
into one great brotherhood of Man.
Excerpt from Hymn of Asia
an Eastern Poem
by L. Ron Hubbard.
Comment: 30 years ago, I joined Scientology just to improve my sense of self-worth...which is the cornerstone of their initial teachings and why so many young people buy into it. After about a month, they were ready to move me out of my apartment, had found me a new job with a Scientologist-owned company, had told me that I couldn't continue any non-Scientology friendships AND that I had to have only limited communication with my family...because none of them truly "understood" me. I saw this for what it was and stopped attending the meetings and stopped paying for the "lessons." Members of the society had taken items from my home when they had been there to "visit" and I never did get those items back. They kept trying to pull be back into their lives for the next year. I was 20 years old and just celebrated my 50th. They haven't changed. They prey on the young and weak. They do teach people how to be the center of attention and I can certainly understand why people in the entertainment industry want to belong to an organization that tells them how WONDERFUL they are. Too bad the words of a science fiction writer have been taken so seriously for so long. That being said, I'm a huge Asimov fan! l! He also wrote dirty limericks!
Comment: Spoiler alert, Newsweek. Anonymous is not an organization of any kind. They're the bored white twentysomethings on the internet, usually still living in their parents' basements. They are doing this scientology stuff in between adding funny captions to pictures of cats and browsing Japanese anime porn.
Comment: Anonymous routinely laughs at the media labelling of them as hackers. Seriously, the ability to use computers remotely competently is not the same as hacking, and while some of the group can generate software tools they tend to be very simple ad-hoc utilities. The only times Anonymous uses hackers self-referentially is as a derisive reference to a pathetically alarmist Fox11 report which branded them as 'hackers on steroids' (leading to jokes such as http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s261/Timesplitter14/Steroids_hackers.jpg)
Comment: I know someone personally who joined the Church when he was younger, and when he tried to leave, they tracked him down for 3 years and continued to try and make him pay money to the Church up until he joined the military
Scientology may have started as an idea for spiritual freedom, but it is definately being used as an means of economic gain
Comment: www.scientologymyths.info
That site doesn't seem to bipartisan either
from the looks of things, that site simply promotes scientology and makes many, many assumptions about the religion
Comment: Its a site run and funded by scientology. But hey, go check it out anyhow. Then check out xenu.net and xenutv.com so you have both sides of the issue. It's not that hard to see the scientology site is all lies and smoke and mirrors.
Comment: Why anyone would pay credence to Tom Cruise only weakens that group's potential. It's propaganda being permitted by the IRS to be tax-exempt proves the folly - aka Tom Cruise . All very sad for someone who needs to step back, and get himself in a healthy stance in life to continue his responsiblities to his family. Enough of this errant, narcissistic actor. If Scientology must use him, it's proof enough of their total lack of ethical standards of conduct becoming a spiritual organization. No more religions, please!
Comment: Was it P.T. Barnum who said:" there is a sucker born every minute"? I guess there are just a lot of very naive people who will believe anything!
Comment: It is not a religion.....it only acts like one.
Comment: Well all I can say at this point is the passion of Anonymous is huge. In Detroit alone there were over sixty protesters. This was in minus 20 weather with the wind chill. And the protests are going on right now all over the world. Take some time and drive down to one. Let scientology know they don't own the net and they don't own our world.
Here are the pic's for the Detroit protest.....
http://tinyurl.com/yqj4ur http://groups.msn.com/FarmingtonHillsDetoitMiScientologyProtest/_whatsnew.msnw
Comment: I am not a an ex-Scientologist but smart enough to look at both sides of a story. Newsweek, get a moderator on this forum. It is full of brainless propaganda. Ah, and talking about "according to Scientology's origin myth" check out www.scientologymyths.info
Comment: Luisa, The link you say proves scientology myths is a SCIENTOLOGY site. Now do you really think scientology will tell anyone the truth on its own self promoting site? Do you have even ONE independent site that agrees the xenu story is a myth? Or that Operation Snow White and Freakout is a myth? Or that scientology makes you disconnect from family and loved ones if they dare to speak out against the abuses of scientology? Come on now, there must be ONE INDEPENDENT LINK that agrees with scientology. Isn't there?
Comment: JeraldR wrote: "Come on now, there must be ONE INDEPENDENT LINK that agrees with scientology"
Um, off the top of my head ...
http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/10/31/christian.scientology/index.html?iref=newssearch
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez (search on "sauna detox")
http://www.cesnur.org/2002/scient_rpf_01.htm
http://www.state.gov/g/drl/rls/hrrpt/2006/78814.htm
http://www.cesnur.org/2001/CAN.htm
Comment: I know about the NCBI Entrez site because I use it regularly at work. That search brings up one medical abstract mentioning "xenobiotics", which means "chemical compounds that are foreign to a living organism". Gee, did you think it meant alien organisms sent by Xenu? I wonder how reliable your other pointers are...
Comment: Own3d
Comment: usaftwilight, nonsense, check out scientologymyths.info for the real thing. send email if you miss something.
Comment: What other religion refuses to impart the path of salvation to its practitioners until a monetary sum is paid or a contractual obligation is met? The full teachings of Christ, Allah, Buddah, Mormon, etc.. are all freely distributed.
Another point, what religion has "trade secrets"? Trade secrets are not the purview of a "not-for-profit" religion, but a tool of a "for profit" business. If CoS wants to maintain their tax-exempt status, it is very hypocritical for them to claim a method of protection offered to business entities.
Comment: I am an ex-scientologist, I spent in the cult more than 50,000.00 US$ in more than 10 years of membership. But is not the money what I regret most, it is the family I lost. My parents, still members, don't talk to me nor to my children since the day I left, five years ago.
They call this 'disconnection' policy.
The cult asks its members to serve all connections to people who leave the cult, or who are even mild critics to its management. It is a form of punishment for those who leave, and the penalty for members who do not adhere to that policy is expulsion and 'disconnection' enforced on them too.
There are thousands of factual stories like mine or even worse, many take the courage to expose them, like on the Ex Scientologist Message Board (http://forum.exscn.net).
Everyone should be allowed to speak freely and belief what he likes. But if you are a scientologist, sadly, you can't ??? you will be subject to 'disconnection' and even harassed if you do.
Thanks to the 'Anonymous' for waking up the Media attention on the oppressions by that cult, and to Jenna Miscavige Hill for taking the courage to go public about her story, similar to too many others.
Comment: yep labotomy is a scientologist, dont listen to their lies.
do your own reseach.
do your own thinking.
scientology is trapped in a corner and they know it.
btw every so-called doctor on that video is a scientologist.
Comment: yep labotomy is a scientologist, dont listen to their lies.
do your own reseach.
do your own thinking.
scientology is trapped in a corner and they know it.
btw every so-called doctor on that video is a scientologist.
Comment: My weak-minded sister and her chiropractor hubby have fallen for this fantasy-jive. Weak-minded they be, but it's a shame and criminal for them to subject their innocent young daughter to this. The chiro hates all things medical, yet pushes his quackery on others and has the gall to call himself a doctor. So, weak-minded folks fall for his jive and he falls for CoS jive. I feel sorry for innocents who're subjected to this. My sister's older sons immedidately rejected this kook fringe delusional belief system, fortunately.
Keep up the good work, anonymous.
Comment: I am a chiropractor and am adamantly against scientology, having played with it long ago. I resent a reference to chiropractic being quackery. I know there is quackery being used by some idiot chiropractors, but we are not all nuts....on the other hand, all scientologists are nuts!
Comment: Hehe, he applauds the media
LOL! Someone wake mitch12345.
Lobotomology
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHu7Ik36128
Comment: ??? If anyone wants to truly understand exactly what the Church of Scientology is all about, then
read all of the posts by the person calling himself ???Lobotomy??? found in the comments to the
foregoing Newsweek article. This person is a member of the Church of Scientology. His
communication is childish, nonsensical and obviously psychotic. This person is attempting to
defend that organisation? This pitiful madman? Read his posts and see if you can in any way
believe that the Church of Scientology can make a person more sane or capable or better able to
communicate.
Comment: Mitch did you receive your $40 yet?
Comment: Lobotomology
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHu7Ik36128
Comment: Hey JDark Who don???t YOU do some real reasearch, open YOUR eyes and realize you are being used by a highly destructive drug pushing cartel. Example - Newseek's founder Phil Graham - suicide under Psychatric care - reportedly an LSD addict. Henry Luce founder of Time magazine died an LSD addict. LSD was the killer drug predecessor
to the newer killer drugs like Prozac and Ritalin. The big pharmaceutical companies manage and control media stories and hire tools like Brian Braiker to write articles that attack anyone who challenges their right to maim and kill with their drug profiteering. That is why Scientology is attacked and one of the reasons why it is growing so rapidly. Scientologists have the integrity to DO something about the murderous PsychoPharm drug pushers and this is being well received by a population fed up with a predatory Psychiatric Pharmaceutical industry.
Comment: LSD is non addictive and isn't chemically related to Prozac or Ritalin at all, what the hell are you going on about?
Comment: LSD is non addictive and isn't chemically related to Prozac or Ritalin at all, what the hell are you going on about?
Comment: Wow - where DO you get your data - news articles? Conversations with Scientology drop outs? Have you read Dianetics? Fundamentals of Thought? Problems of Work? Are you trained in using an e-meter? No equipment will work in untrained hands. And with your apparent bias against learning the subject you so vehemently attack, it is highly unlikely that you CAN learn. The first barrier to learning anything that needs to be overcome is admitting you have something to learn. If you want to know what it is that you are attacking, study the actual data for yourself with your own free will. Believing the Psycho-pharma propaganda so evident on this message board just may have blocked your perception? As I said, Scientology flourishes when attacked by the drug profiteers of psycho-pharm. So, in the end, you may just be helping after all. Have a nice day. It's beautiful and sunny here in South Africa. But it is hard to beat the USA! Try to lighten up and enjoy the blessings you have in such a great and free country.
Comment: "Posted By: ceocomp @ 02/10/2008 06:32:08
Are you trained in using an e-meter? No equipment will work in untrained hands."
A 1971 ruling of the United States District Court, District of Columbia (333 F. Supp. 357), specifically stated, "The E-meter has no proven usefulness in the diagnosis, treatment or prevention of any disease, nor is it medically or scientifically capable of improving any bodily function."
You can "train" however much you want to with this useless machine. No matter how tightly you close your eyes and wish, the e-meter has never been scientifically proven to have any medical utility whatsoever.
Comment: I read Dianetics -- both versions. I forgot to squirrel the first one away, but I guess Miscavige handled that
in the second one, eh? As for the e-meter, well, one of my friends in college and I took one apart. It's an Ohm meter with a lot of blinky things and more buttons on the front than it actually uses to function. So, yeah, I guess only high-school physics teachers and licensed electricians have a valid use for it. Basically, the tech boils down to moral intimidation, a shiny new Ohm meter, and good old-fashioned hypnosis-based talk therapy. That and its grace note: The suicide diet.
Comment: Golly, I guess I don't buy into either!
Pharmacuticals OR Scientology Brain-Washing
Your e-Meter is nothing more than a simplistic polygraph that measures electric impulses on the skin's surface. Its purpose is to delve into your mind so you can help the Church fill your permanent record with possibly incriminating evidense should you ever speak out, or decide to leave.
Maybe people don't have to choose one OR the other. They have the options of being perfectly happy with neither. It's not an all or nothing situation.
The option I choose, and the one I encourage to you is that of maintaining my freewill.
Brainwashing is Brainwashing be it Drugs, Labotomy, or Hypnosis disguised as Self- Help by your friends at the Church of Scientology. How much, y'think, it takes to obtain that super power 'uber-man' ability that you've been promised? Know anyone that actually has it? Seen Tom Cruise flying or moving things with his mind yet? You may just be getting fleeced y'know.
Comment: Newsweek can do better than this. It blithely reports criminal acts of a "Anonymous" persons, with no dissent, no censure. I known many Scientologists, and they don;t deserve this any more than the Jews deserved the harassment they have endured. What has our culture come to that this is not condemned as hate crime?
Comment: Ahahaha now you're comparing yourselves to the Jews simply because Newsweek is reporting the facts about Scientology for once. What's the matter, are they too big for your corrupt organization to surpress the information about your despicable corporation? Well for once the media is not being compromised by your legal dogs.
I applaud Newsweek for having the guts to stand up and tell the truth, and let me be clear none of this has anything to do with Psychiatry so ignore these Scientology drones and their prescripted, non-thinking answers.
Comment: I urge you to do your research before crying foul, my friend:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCE-ICnqtVk&feature=related
60 Minutes
Plenty of other videos from the public media here:
http://www.youtube.com/user/scientologeez
Knowledge is Power
Comment: Hey respectful. I see you are still spamming the message board with your PsychoPharm backed propaganda. Have you completed you assignment yet? You were supposed to report to us how much ad revenue Newsweek derives from the large drug companies that flood America with killer drugs like Prozac and Ritalin. Also did you research and confirm that Phillip Graham ??? the ex owner of Newsweek committed suicide while under psychiatric care in 1963? Ironically, Scientology could have helped he and his family avoid that trauma . But, instead, Newsweek publishers hire tools like Brian Braiker to attempt to stop Scientology from exposing the murder and mayhem of Americans caused by Big Pharma. Billions in ad revenue is addictive to the leading ???news??? media and articles like Braikers are collateral support given in exchange for the ad revenue. The good news is that they fail and Scientology expands even faster when under attack. This is what drives the PsychoPhramaceutical Industry even more nuts. Your future and the future of mankind depends on effective movements like Scientology that actually halt the drug-and-kill-for-profit interests like PshcyoPharm. So, by all means, keep doing your bit to help us get the word out. Or, a much more survival course for you would be to do some actual homework, open YOUR eyes and realize you are being used by a highly destructive drug pushing cartel.
Comment: ANONYMOUS DOES NOT WANT THIS!
This war was started by someone who obviousy did NOT understand what Anonymous truly was, and decided to use our name. Others who had equally little knowledge joined. Anyonymous is not to blame.I will also officially, on the record, say that NO member of Anonymous is responsible for the white powder. We did not approve.
Others
Comment: Anonymous is not "loose-knit"
Anonymous did not start this war. Our name was used by someone who very obviously did not understand what we are about, and others like this person joined in. Anonymous does not want this.
Anoyn
Comment: To anyone about to post a comment here: Please, before you go on posting about how we're just expressing a hate for this particular belief system, please, PLEASE take 8 minutes and review this leaked video from the LEADER HIMSELF, David Miscaviage: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfu7Sr50N7U
I hope you understand what he is telling you his goal is. Guess? World domination. This is no joke and he's telling you himself. Not to mention his plan to ABOLISH psychiatric and psychological therapy, and even how they plans to do so.
Now view the proposed replacement called "auditing": http://tinyurl.com/26dxsq (links to video.google.com)
And THEN post your views. Anonymous is NOT out to attack anyones BELIEFS. Everyone should be free to practice whatever they'd like and we FULLY support this! They should NOT be indoctrinated into it through brainwashing and hypnosis, however. This OUTRAGEOUS and unfortunately is ONLY the tip of the iceburg!
They are responsible for human rights violations from child abuse, sexual abuse, separation of families, and even murder! See www.whyaretheydead.net for every death the church is responsible for but was never able to be legally charged with. The most well known case was regarding Lisa McPherson who was held against her will for 17 days even though she was in obvious need of professional medical help. See www.whyaretheydead.net for info on Lisa or visit www.exscn.net -- a forum for people who've been able to escape and many are STILL separated from their families. Read their testimonials and see the appalling things they've been through. It's truly sad and this cult must be stopped :(
PLEASE educate yourself and help Anonymous educate the WORLD on the true inter-workings of this billion-dollar cult!! We will be protesting GLOBALLY on Feb 10, at least drive by your local Scientologist office and give us a honk!!
Comment: NBC DATELINE From 1998 (Clips Linked Below)
It has been in front of us for so long now. We are just now waking up collectively to it. It is just now that the web has become the web 2.0 and a community of Social Networking has led to the inevitable social caring and social action.
It is as awareness grows and information ceases to be withheld, that the free people of the world collectively rise to help those who have been brainwashed, drained of their resources, and enslaved.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VT7uB5gZu7k
Dateline Part I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jz0LaI3w2r0
Dateline Part II
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdo39CD1R90
Dateline Part III
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHiSEulMnsQ
Scientology Hypnosis Techniques
Our Cause is Just
We shall prevail
We are Anonymous
We are Awoken
We Stand as One
Comment: From Anonymous as Posted:
"Ladies and gentlemen of the public and the press,
Today, working in concert with concerned citizens from all over the world, Anonymous has staged a large number of simultaneous public demonstrations at Church of Scientology centers around the globe. Now that we have made evident the sincerity of our intentions and the strength of our dedication, we would like to take this opportunity to clarify our objectives to the press and to the public. There have been a number of myths and misconceptions surrounding the nature of our means and intentions. Among these is the idea that our declaration of war is to be interpreted as a threat of physical harm against individuals affiliated with the Church of Scientology.
Allegations that Anonymous wishes to physically harm any human being as a part of our campaign against the cult of Scientology are patently untrue. As stated in one of our productions, the intention of Anonymous is to 'systematically dismantle the Church of Scientology in its present form'. Our struggle is directed against the toxic ideals and behavior of the corrupt, violent, and abusive leadership of the Church of Scientology, not against the lives of those who have become entangled with it. Know this: though we oppose all that they stand for, even the highest officers of this cult will not be harmed physically by Anonymous. Our battle is one of ideas. As we speak, it is being fought and won in the hearts and minds of the worlds honest citizenry and their leaders. The ideological nature of our struggle brings us to another common misconception regarding the objectives of Anonymous in this campaign....[more]"
Listen to it here:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=BNhRrpyYe98
Read it here:
http://docs.google.com/View?docid=dcgn7gtc_12d3f8hsd2
Comment: Well, I humbly estimate that reached the senses of at 3 people in the world.
I've got other more productive things to jump into (anonymously) and on my own will rather than following the herd of anonymous group that wastes the time of people who are uninformed.
Lobotomology
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHu7Ik36128
Comment: ??? If anyone wants to truly understand exactly what the Church of Scientology is all about, then
read all of the posts by the person calling himself ???Lobotomy??? found in the comments to the
foregoing Newsweek article. This person is a member of the Church of Scientology. His
communication is childish, nonsensical and obviously psychotic. This person is attempting to
defend that organisation? This pitiful madman? Read his posts and see if you can in any way
believe that the Church of Scientology can make a person more sane or capable or better able to
communicate.
Comment: Nice to see that a particularly bad poster on this forum has no idea what the difference is between stating something in first-person and quoting what an author said years ago. Brilliant.
Comment: Likewise, "good luck" in your mission. I hope you get paid *at least* $40 if you spend a week doing this : )
Lobotomology
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHu7Ik36128
Comment: Do scientologists celebrate christmas?
Comment: From Anonymous as Posted:
"Ladies and gentlemen of the public and the press,
Today, working in concert with concerned citizens from all over the world, Anonymous has staged a large number of simultaneous public demonstrations at Church of Scientology centers around the globe. Now that we have made evident the sincerity of our intentions and the strength of our dedication, we would like to take this opportunity to clarify our objectives to the press and to the public. There have been a number of myths and misconceptions surrounding the nature of our means and intentions. Among these is the idea that our declaration of war is to be interpreted as a threat of physical harm against individuals affiliated with the Church of Scientology.
Allegations that Anonymous wishes to physically harm any human being as a part of our campaign against the cult of Scientology are patently untrue. As stated in one of our productions, the intention of Anonymous is to 'systematically dismantle the Church of Scientology in its present form'. Our struggle is directed against the toxic ideals and behavior of the corrupt, violent, and abusive leadership of the Church of Scientology, not against the lives of those who have become entangled with it. Know this: though we oppose all that they stand for, even the highest officers of this cult will not be harmed physically by Anonymous. Our battle is one of ideas. As we speak, it is being fought and won in the hearts and minds of the worlds honest citizenry and their leaders. The ideological nature of our struggle brings us to another common misconception regarding the objectives of Anonymous in this campaign....[more]"
Listen to it here:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=BNhRrpyYe98
Read it here:
http://docs.google.com/View?docid=dcgn7gtc_12d3f8hsd2
Comment: AnonymousSP also claims that fake reports were sent by a "scientology"
Wonder what else the Lobotomologist will dream up.
Comment: ??? If anyone wants to truly understand exactly what the Church of Scientology is all about, then
read all of the posts by the person calling himself ???Lobotomy??? found in the comments to the
foregoing Newsweek article. This person is a member of the Church of Scientology. His
communication is childish, nonsensical and obviously psychotic. This person is attempting to
defend that organisation? This pitiful madman? Read his posts and see if you can in any way
believe that the Church of Scientology can make a person more sane or capable or better able to
communicate.
Comment: "Ron Hubbard and I still occasionally communicate with each other"
- mitch12345 @ 02/08/2008 8:40:40 PM
Lobotomology
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHu7Ik36128
Comment: From Anonymous as Posted:
"Ladies and gentlemen of the public and the press,
Today, working in concert with concerned citizens from all over the world, Anonymous has staged a large number of simultaneous public demonstrations at Church of Scientology centers around the globe. Now that we have made evident the sincerity of our intentions and the strength of our dedication, we would like to take this opportunity to clarify our objectives to the press and to the public. There have been a number of myths and misconceptions surrounding the nature of our means and intentions. Among these is the idea that our declaration of war is to be interpreted as a threat of physical harm against individuals affiliated with the Church of Scientology.
Allegations that Anonymous wishes to physically harm any human being as a part of our campaign against the cult of Scientology are patently untrue. As stated in one of our productions, the intention of Anonymous is to 'systematically dismantle the Church of Scientology in its present form'. Our struggle is directed against the toxic ideals and behavior of the corrupt, violent, and abusive leadership of the Church of Scientology, not against the lives of those who have become entangled with it. Know this: though we oppose all that they stand for, even the highest officers of this cult will not be harmed physically by Anonymous. Our battle is one of ideas. As we speak, it is being fought and won in the hearts and minds of the worlds honest citizenry and their leaders. The ideological nature of our struggle brings us to another common misconception regarding the objectives of Anonymous in this campaign....[more]"
Listen to it here:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=BNhRrpyYe98
Read it here:
http://docs.google.com/View?docid=dcgn7gtc_12d3f8hsd2
Comment: *boring*
And it's from an anonymous source, it could have been produced by jdark13. Who knows.
At least save some bandwidth and just make an audio stream on a website with a headless image.
The voice sounds like its trying to hypnotize me
Comment: ??? If anyone wants to truly understand exactly what the Church of Scientology is all about, then
read all of the posts by the person calling himself ???Lobotomy??? found in the comments to the
foregoing Newsweek article. This person is a member of the Church of Scientology. His
communication is childish, nonsensical and obviously psychotic. This person is attempting to
defend that organisation? This pitiful madman? Read his posts and see if you can in any way
believe that the Church of Scientology can make a person more sane or capable or better able to
communicate.
Comment: "ENEMY SP Order. Fair game. May be deprived of property or injured by any means by any Scientologist without any discipline of the Scientologist. May be tricked, sued or lied to or destroyed."
- L. Ron Hubbard, Hubbard Communications Office Policy Letter, 18 October 1967
[SP = Suppressive Person a.k.a. critic of Scientology]
"When somebody enrolls, consider he or she has joined up for the duration of the universe - never permit an 'open-minded' approach... If they enrolled, they're aboard, and if they're aboard they're here on the same terms as the rest of us - win or die in the attempt. Never let them be half minded about being Scientologists... The proper instruction attitude is, 'We'd rather have you dead than incapable.'"
- L. Ron Hubbard, KEEPING SCIENTOLOGY WORKING, 7 February 1965, reissued 27 August 1980
www.xenu-directory.net
www.xenu.net
www.xenutv.com
www.whyaretheydead.net
www.forum.exscn.net
www.scientology-victims-testimonies.com
google up the real steven fishman
for some information on the real truth about the cult that is scientology.
Knowledge is free, inform yourselves.
Comment: AnonymousSP and lammysz: Too eager to jump the gun or just loose cannons?
Comment: ??? If anyone wants to truly understand exactly what the Church of Scientology is all about, then
read all of the posts by the person calling himself ???Lobotomy??? found in the comments to the
foregoing Newsweek article. This person is a member of the Church of Scientology. His
communication is childish, nonsensical and obviously psychotic. This person is attempting to
defend that organisation? This pitiful madman? Read his posts and see if you can in any way
believe that the Church of Scientology can make a person more sane or capable or better able to
communicate.
Comment: Please everyone, do not respond to Lobotomy. He is not only a Scientology-sanctioned apologist, he the worst kind of troll. Every post is a misdirection trying to make this discussion about psychiatry which is completely off-point and one of the most juvenile forms of debate. In addition he is doing an incredibly poor job of this, demonstrating little in the way of coherent thoughts while his attempts are totally transparent and obvious, despite that he is following the Scientology defense plan word for word. It is laughable and pathetic and I realize very few people are taken in by this idiotic approach but I'd like to mention it for this one point. Do not engage him in conversation as it makes his trolling that much less credible. We can not hope he will possibly "clam up" so to speak (heh heh) but one can only hope.
No matter how much the Scientologists whine in this thread, fabricate a victim mentality and dismiss obvious facts and research with the church-mandated prescribed response "It is all lies" the one fact remains:
The information is exploding. It is out there for everyone to see for themselves what a sham this corporate con is. You have already lost the first battle, Scientology. There are too many to silence with your litigation policies and cloak-and-dagger nonsense. It is front page news and I expect court rulings that aren't in your favor very soon.
We are winning.
Comment: Oh please, so-called mitch12345 (anonymous), you also need to get your facts straight about not just me. You, AnonymousSP, lammysz and JeraldR are just showing the world how easy it is to attacks the wrong guys
Lobotomologist
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHu7Ik36128
Comment: Of course you are right Mitch, but I also wanted to give the readers here a chance to see us interact and judge for themselves. But I had best stop feeding the troll before Barbz finds out and smacks me. :)
Comment: No problem I wasn't directing it to you specifically. This guy went through the entire talkback and responded to most of the posters with that psychiatry-bashing nonsense to try and confuse the issue. It is humorous when Scientologist bring up this stupid campaign of theirs. Since they are taught to never defend, only attack, it is useless to engage them in debate. Besides, it would be like boxing a child wearing blinders.
Keep fighting the good fight!
Comment:
"ENEMY SP Order. Fair game. May be deprived of property or injured by any means by any Scientologist without any discipline of the Scientologist. May be tricked, sued or lied to or destroyed."
- L. Ron Hubbard, Hubbard Communications Office Policy Letter, 18 October 1967
[SP = Suppressive Person a.k.a. critic of Scientology]
"When somebody enrolls, consider he or she has joined up for the duration of the universe - never permit an 'open-minded' approach... If they enrolled, they're aboard, and if they're aboard they're here on the same terms as the rest of us - win or die in the attempt. Never let them be half minded about being Scientologists... The proper instruction attitude is, 'We'd rather have you dead than incapable.'"
- L. Ron Hubbard, KEEPING SCIENTOLOGY WORKING, 7 February 1965, reissued 27 August 1980
www.xenu-directory.net
www.xenu.net
www.xenutv.com
www.whyaretheydead.net
www.forum.exscn.net
www.scientology-victims-testimonies.com
google up the real steven fishman
for some information on the real truth about the cult that is scientology.
Knowledge is free, inform yourselves.
Comment: Prapaganda is free, mis-inf0rn yourselves.
AnonymousSP claims to know who sent the false reports
Comment: Anonymous Press Release
http://youtube.com/watch?v=BNhRrpyYe98
Feb 10, 2008 11:00 am.
The world is watching.
Comment: *yawn*
Comment: there are at least 2 fake news reports now with fake arrests posted by scientology, they are scared.
Comment: Oh, I see you say "posted by scientology"
Who posted them?
Lobotomology
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHu7Ik36128
Comment: The Anonymous poster is scared? You mean a real genuine anonymous coward?
Who do you mean by "they"?
Lobotomology
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHu7Ik36128
Comment: There are fake news reports on the protests ALREADY? Alleging there've been arrests?
Gee, I wonder who could be behind that? Gee ... I'm at a loss. Whoever could it be??
Comment: Lammyszologist, do you always make blind guesses?
It makes people attack the wrong guy
LOLobotomology : )
Comment: Whoever it is, they're anonymous =D
What great PR !
Comment: Time to go celebrate. See you out there tomorrow.
Comment: I think Anonymous should go back to simple hacking.
These protests don't make them look very good at all.
The anti-scientologists love it of course
Lobotomology
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHu7Ik36128
Comment: Wow -- those Aussies are brave!!
And I see they are following the 22 rules posted on youtube. I guess you're less likely to get arrested in sunglasses than a full-on mask.
Comment: Wow -- the photos out of Australia are awesome.
Comment: Scientology protests start across Australia
http://www.news.com.au/technology/story/0,25642,23189467-5014239,00.html
Comment: Here is another link to the news story about todays protest.
http://www.news.com.au/technology/story/0,25642,23189467-5014239,00.html
Comment: Check google news. The protests have begun in Australia. The Church is filming the protesters
Comment: Check the news but be careful also. There is at least one fake story about protesters being arrested. the pictures shown were of a protest in Houston , Texas against an oil co. The paper pulled it after an hour and I can't wait to see the story they do about it.
Comment: There is a lot of fake stuff out there
like Lobotomology
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHu7Ik36128
Comment: The protests have begun.
Comment: How is this NOT a form of lobotomy, Labotomy?
Scientology hypnotizes people via coursework.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHiSEulMnsQ
Scientology Tone 40 Training, Staring Hynosis, and many other "helpful" exercises that are to the neutral observer, a very cleverly disguised form of hypnosis/mind-control
This is cause for concern, and certainly more militaristic than a religion.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHiSEulMnsQ
Knowledge is Power, Information is Free.
Scientology is brainwashing people, and that Scares the Hell Out of Me!
Comment: I'm not sure about Labotomy, but it sure is much nicer than Lobotomy
Are you asking for the link again?
Comment: "When anonymous submits, consider he or she has joined up for the duration of the Lobotomology. Never let them be fully minded about being Lobotomized... The provable cure is, 'We'd rather lobotomize you dead than anything.'"
-Psychiatrist, Keeping Lobotomy Working, 4 July 1977, reissued 10 February 2008
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgMovNmtRF0&feature=user
Comment: ??? If anyone wants to truly understand exactly what the Church of Scientology is all about, then
read all of the posts by the person calling himself ???Lobotomy??? found in the comments to the
foregoing Newsweek article. This person is a member of the Church of Scientology. His
communication is childish, nonsensical and obviously psychotic. This person is attempting to
defend that organisation? This pitiful madman? Read his posts and see if you can in any way
believe that the Church of Scientology can make a person more sane or capable or better able to
communicate.
Comment: scientology must be worried to have thier drones spam forums like this. Way to earn your $45 for this weeks pay lobotomy, great job!
Feb 10, 2008. 11:00 am.
The world is watching.
Comment: LOL
TINC
Before you play the vocal intolerance or Freedom Of Speech card perhaps you should get your facts straight.
LOLobotomology
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHu7Ik36128
Comment: Before you play the vocal intolerance or Freedom Of Speech card perhaps you should get your facts straight.
LOLobotomology
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHu7Ik36128
Comment: Lobotomy, I call distraction. We can take deal with Psych later, right now this is between CoS and Anon.
Comment: Anonymous vs. the internet
is what this is.
The other battle is the Scientologists vs. the Lobotomotionologists
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHu7Ik36128
Comment: Oops!
Its "anonymous" vs. govt. surveillance
Then it will be Anonymous vs. internet once everyone's pissed off about what the they did to the internet.
Comment: ??? If anyone wants to truly understand exactly what the Church of Scientology is all about, then
read all of the posts by the person calling himself ???Lobotomy??? found in the comments to the
foregoing Newsweek article. This person is a member of the Church of Scientology. His
communication is childish, nonsensical and obviously psychotic. This person is attempting to
defend that organisation? This pitiful madman? Read his posts and see if you can in any way
believe that the Church of Scientology can make a person more sane or capable or better able to
communicate.
