He’s One of Us Now

Paulte: Are you serious? "...how bright are these kids anyway? They'd probably like to vote for Britney Spears if she could stay out of rehab long enough! If they had any brains they would vote based upon idealogy not a particular person."

Clearly, you do not know many intelligent 'kids.' That, or you have a poor sense of what counts as intelligent. Supporting Obama does not mean that you have decided against voting on ideology and have joined the "cult of personality" you speak of.

It's not too far a stretch to say that not every "bright" person agrees with the same ideology you hold.

I'm sure that Obama has caught the imagination of some youth but how bright are these kids anyway? They'd probably like to vote for Britney Spears if she could stay out of rehab long enough! If they had any brains they would vote based upon ideology not a particular person.

The cult of personality is not a good thing. You only have to look at the popularity of JPII among Catholic youth as an example. What is the point unless it made them more likely to follow the teachings of their Church?

Same with Obama, what is the point unless they are more likely to follow his Liberal philosophy. Do these kids have a clue as to what Liberalism is all about? Well, I'll give them a hint, the First Liberal was Lucifer! And now that he has caught their attention will he be able to keep it until November? I doubt it! Their attention span is not that focused.

Younger voters will resonate with Obama because we can identify with him, and in some way he understand that the major part of the problem in this country is Older folks. They are to be blamed for taking us down the road we are presently on. They lack vision and so they are now dampening our dream of a brighter future and a more unified America.
They fail to understand that if our future continues to be as bleak as they lay it out for us, then, their social security will be limited in scope and we will force them back into the stone age. Let's see how they like bread and water. As young people we will take back this country and prove to the rest of the world that we can unite and become masters of our own destiny.
Those old folks who are championing for the Clintons can forever continue to hold on to fading dreams. All this garbage about black and white is but a stench in a drifting wind that will eventually fade away. Obama gives hope to both Black and white, in that the presidency is now open to any child regardless of his family background. If we should look at Hilary we can see that everyone cannot identify with her, however every child, black white or brown can identify with Obama.
The future is ours to take and decide what direction we so choose to follow. Young people wake up and follow your dream, a dream for a better future, if the old fargies fail to see vision then I guarantee you it will be their loss.
Where there is no vision the people perish.
These are the days when young men will dream dreams and old men will see visions.

As young people we must refuse to carry the burden and anxiety that is attributed to racism a legacy from our forefathers. Let it go my people and you will experience tremendous growth.

Kennedy "worked with" Hillary Clinton to get White House support for a Senate measure to grant $24 billion for the new program, rather than the $16 billion approved by the House. "With strong administration support, the $24 billion stayed in," he wrote. Then, when the bill finally passed, Kennedy "credited the President, the First Lady, [Senate Democratic Leader Tom] Daschle, Marian Wright Edelman, head of the Children's Defense Fun, and Hatch. ..."

Clymer, in an exchange of e-mails, told FactCheck.org:

Adam Clymer: On balance, I would say of course Kennedy and Hatch deserve most of the credit, but Hillary helped by making sure the Administration stuck with the $24 billion in [the Senate-House] conference. She didn't write the legislation but she played a significant role in getting it passed.

Obama has given $698,200 to the superdelegates since 2005.

And his supporters talk about Clinton "stealing" the nomination.

No wonder you young types are all for Obama. You think he's going to get rid of SS, not fix it.

"The time has come, Senator Barack Obama says, for the baby boomers to get over themselves. ... Obama calculates that Americans of all ages are sick of the feuding boomers. He has run ads reinforcing the right's bamboozlement that Social Security is running out of money! The language in his ad implies that Social Security's retirement payments are responsible for the shortfall, and does not say that the trust fund was taken to pay for Reagan and Bush's tax cuts," Dave Johnson wrote October 29, 2007, at Seeing the Forest.

I have two granddaughters, ages 6 and eight. Obama represents THEIR (and other younger generation Americans) hope of a better future with less pollution, less dependence on oil, no more unneccessary wars, even at long last peace in the Middle East, etc., etc. Obama as US Persident will also be welcomed with open arms by the rest of the world. It will also show that the new generation of Americans has overcome the obstacle of race.
dave t.

I completely agree with you, ElectionMaven. It's utterly ridiculous to try to pretend that Obama is part of the Millenial Generation. Like you, I feel very strongly that Barack is clearly a part of Generation Jones. When I read his two books, I was very struck by how much he personifies Generation Jones, he really is a classic example of the GenJones archetype. I love the fact that I keep seeing articles in the mainstream media lately which are saying that Obama is a GenJoneser. Finally, they are getting it! Finally, Generation Jones is being recognized for what it is--a large heretofore ignored generation which is in a unique position to lead our country out of the mess created primarily by Baby Boomers. And to think that for so many years, Jonesers were ludicrously lumped in with Boomers!!

Frankly, Andrew, you should be embarrassed to write such a wholly uninformed article. I've seen misinformation and confusion about Obama's generational identity, but this article certainly takes the cake for complete inaccuracy.

There is no generations expert anywhere that believes that the Millenial Generation would include Obama. While there is some disagreement among experts about the exact starting point for this generation, everybody sees it starting sometime after the birth year 1975, while most people start it around 1979/1980. Obama, born in 1961, is a Millenial??!! Do you even have any idea what the word generation means? How about doing a little research before writing an article, so that you'd have at least a tiny idea about it.

Generations are defined by birth years, not mind sets. A 75 year old guy's personality may be very Generation X, but that doesn't make him a member of Generation X!! He would be a Silent Generation member who happens to have many GenX-like traits. Otherwise, the concept of generations would basically have no meaning, if it were determined by subjective determinations of personality traits. For starters, who would make these determinations? Cultural generations have always been, and always will, be determined by birth years.

In case you have any interest in the truth on this topic: Obama is a part of Generation Jones. One could make a plausible argument that Obama is a Boomer, and a plausible argument that he is a GenXer (the reason these other arguments would be plausible is because someone born in 1961, like Obama, is in an ambiguous generational territory). As the New York Times pointed out last week, someone born in 1961 has three "choices" generationally: Baby Boom Generation, Generation Jones, or Generation X.

Those who study this topic professionally have generally decided that Obama is a GenJoneser. His bio, his political worldview, his political stances...it all pretty much shouts Generation Jones. Which isn't surprising, given that Obama was born in the middle of the GenJones 1954-1965 birth years, and those born toward the middle of generations tend to most personify their generation. If one concluded that Obama was a Boomer, he would be at the end of the Boom, or concluded he's an Xer, he'd be at the very beginning of X--in both cases, he'd be less likely to be "of" those generations. I heard a panel of generations experts recently spend an hour on radio discussing this specific topic, and their conclusion was overwhelmingly that Obama is of Generation Jones.

So next time you attempt to write an article, Andrew, how about doing a little research first? You could have started doing research on this article by simply reading the issue of Newsweek that came out just one week before this issue, in which Jonathan Alter argued that Obama is part of Generation Jones. You could learn a lot from Alter; he researches his articles, and writes about topics he actuall

Refer to the Generation X file on Wikipedia and decide for yourself if Obama counts as a Boomer or GenX. It's basically a toss-up depending on whether you want to start Gen X as early as 1958 or as late as 1965. End date could be as early as 1975 or as late as 1981. The 13th Generation (one pseudonym for GenX) is attributed as 1961-1981. At very least, those born from 1960-1965 have generally thought themselves disassociated from the values of the traditional boomer-age generation that came of age in the 60s.

Lastly -- can we try to stay on topic folks? This article had nothing to do with Obama's religion or Hillary's anything. If you're going to smear a candidate, at least do it in a way that relates to the article you're commenting on. There are a lot of them out there, so I'm sure you can find one that actually relates to whatever bee you've got in your bonnet.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generation_X

The "Global Poverty Act," (S.2433) sponsored by Senator Barack Obama, was quickly passed through the Senate Foreign Relations Committee without hearings by a voice vote on 13Feb08. The legislation would commit the U.S. to spending 0.7 % of gross national product on foreign aid. This amounts to a total of $845 billion over and above what the U.S. already spends over a 13 year period. Presently, it is being held up by conservative Senators, in order to prevent it from being rushed to the floor for a full Senate vote.
The House version (H.R. 1302) was passed by a voice vote on 25Sep07. This bill complies with the U.N. Millennium Goals and will result in a global tax that will force American taxpayers to provide the money.
Is this the change that he wants to force on the American people? Poverty for all except the privileged elite? IMO this is a prime example of what the golal econemy is going to result in, socialism and lowering of the quality of life for the common person.

Obamaism is a cult of personality. Nothing more.

Obama had better be worried. I am a Hillary supporter. I don't like Obama. If Obama wins the nomination, there are going to be a lot of Clinton democrats who won't be voting in November.

I am all for the youth vote. However, a recent independent poll at my daughter's university showed that the youth voters had not even tuned in to Hillary Clinton-well at least 62% of them anyway. The students admitted to summarily discarding Senator Clinton for reasons that varied from "the name Barack is cool" to "everyone is voting for Barack." He is perceived as young, hip, and one of them. Unfortunately, when pressed for the reason why they liked him as a candidate, only 12% had a factual reason--most were entirely the likeability factor. My daughter tried to have a conversation with her dorm mates about the merits of both candidates and found them entirely disinterested in the idea of discussion. In her words, "This is like the Beanie Baby craze. Everyone went crazy about them and were hypnotized--infatuated--and this is what appears to be happening here." Hillary has her supporters, no doubt. One student commented that he was afraid of reverse discrimination after reading Barack's website about how "African American's have received the short end of the stick." (Yes, words to that effect are on his site). Many of us boomers remember when a white male could not get a job due to reverse discrimination or charges of it. Should college students be afraid of Barack's strong commitment to African American's and his belief that they have been unfairly treated? Hey, I didn't bring it up, it was on Barack's site under civil rights. As a boomer I must admit in the most deepest darkest place in my soul that the concerns raised by Obama about treatment of African Americans raises concerns about how the average Joe will be treated. Will his civil rights practice continue into the White House? Kudos to him for mobilizing an army of ready, willing and able volunteers. All I ask is that we teach our kids to make rational decision based upon a review of all the facts. In the interim, I hope Obama clarifies his comments about his perception of the mistreatment of the African American. Why has no one asked about that glaring comment on his site? It appears that the press truly has given him a free ride in many cases. Time to ask the hard questions.

If you stand for nothing you'll fall for anything!

NOBAMA