How to Train a Husband

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  • Posted By: allibill @ 02/15/2008 10:01:02 AM

    I have been employing these methods for years with my husband and then with my son. It helps to maintain a happier atmosphere in the household and I get what I want. As to who gets credit for these methods, I feel fairly sure that they go back farther than pavlov and bfskinner...i mean, really!

  • Posted By: chicks86 @ 02/14/2008 4:36:48 PM

    The men on here seem to be getting awfully defensive, (from the get go), why is that if you all are sooo confindent that you know you are MAN HEAR YOU ROAR, king of the castle ,leader, and woman is your "help mate" isn't that what God called Eve? So why are you so worried about all the feminists? If it isn't hurting you then dont worry about it!

    • Posted By: Dford @ 02/15/2008 9:02:45 AM

      Chicks86 - you feminists are a joke and I am LAUGHING OUT LOUD at your feeble agenda. Has napping all day with your 14 cats and Oprah in the background made you this opressive? Sounds like you have no luck with men. C'mon tell us your sob story we all need a good laugh today!

    • Posted By: NormL33 @ 02/14/2008 7:20:54 PM

      No, Chicks 86, the men here aren't getting defensive. They're giving some of the women here a good hefty dose of the shuck-and-jive they've been heaping on men for over 40 years to date!

    • Posted By: ChiBevo @ 02/14/2008 5:59:53 PM

      The men are defensive??? It appears the men are not the only ones that are defensive, as evidenced by previous post in all caps. Perhaps some of the men are striking a nerve with you in some of their responses???..

  • Posted By: AndToto2? @ 02/13/2008 11:28:24 AM

    We are a very sensitive bunch, aren't we? The concept of positive reinforcement and ignoring less-than-desireable behavior is part of dog obedience as much as it is part of raising children and I can see its application to a marriage. Hooray for the people who have perfect communication and equal partnerships. I don't have that so I'm willing to try what I learned in obedience class on my husband if it brings peace to our home. And despite my current domestic frustration, I thought the article was a hoot.

    • Posted By: DrZook @ 02/15/2008 4:55:16 AM

      You are a very stupid person aren't you? Your whole post says in essence, "My husband is such a moron and I am so incapable of communicating that I will treat the man like an animal." What sad, pitiful, impotent people you must be! One does not need to have "perfect communication", such a thing probably does not exist outside of a science fiction novel about telepaths. All one needs is mutual respect and GOOD communication. But actually talking to your spouse would involve using intelligence that in your case is clearly in short supply.

  • Posted By: shahid 08 @ 02/15/2008 3:24:49 AM

    Interested indeed, the same technique can be used with our foes as well. I think the stable , prosporous , happy family can bring more happiness in the remaining world.

  • Posted By: wangfuzhou @ 02/15/2008 2:30:07 AM

    Obedient husband needs training, and the coacher wife still needs to be trained.

  • Posted By: Baby Boomer @ 02/14/2008 4:15:42 PM

    Gee I guess its time for me to publish my new book--How to train a woman to put the toilet seat back up when done using it while at a single mans house other than her saying I guess your Mother or Ex didn't train you to put the toilet seat down

    • Posted By: chicks86 @ 02/14/2008 4:31:48 PM

      OK Baby Boomer, you are olnly showing your a** with this toilet seat comment, men need to let this one go, you are showing your ignorance. THE TOILET SEAT GOES DOWN NOT BECAUSE WE FEEL LIKE IT SHOULD B/C WE HAVE TO SIT TO PEE, IT GOES DOWN BECAUSE IT IS GERMY YOU MORON! NO ONE WANTS TO LOOK AT A NASTY TOILET BOWL!

      • Posted By: NormL33 @ 02/14/2008 10:00:29 PM

        Listen up Oaf, the guy said at "a single man's house". At a single man's home, you put the toilet seat back
        up. The world doesn't revolve around you!

        • Posted By: Calcoaster68 @ 02/15/2008 2:26:53 AM

          Ill say one thing about the toilet seat being down. When you are an 9 year old boy and your grandma drops her bare a** on the cold porcelain in the middle of the night and wakes you up to rip into you about putting the seat down, it definately leaves a lifelong impression in your mind.

      • Posted By: Dave24yrsold @ 02/14/2008 5:18:31 PM

        Stay strong MEN LOL, make them put the toilet seat back up! Why shouldn't they have to lift it when up we have to put it down. That will be the true test of equility, forget everything else! When a guy will put the toilet seat down and girls will put it back up, get ready because 7 horseman will soon follow and equality will exist at last! LOLOLOLOL at people who get pissy about a toilet seat. Up or down who cares, if you don't want to fall into the toilet put the seat down! If I don't want to pee on the seat I'll pu the seat up! ahaha

    • Posted By: Dave24yrsold @ 02/14/2008 4:32:43 PM

      LOL I love it! I'll pre-order it, right on!

  • Posted By: runner_bw @ 02/14/2008 5:45:59 PM

    well, i have always told my two daughters as they were growing up that men are animals, they want one thing..............treat them accordingly and you will be fine. good to know that my advice is validated by other sources, lol.
    and why do you think there is such a market for victoria secret lingerie ? heck yes, train me please !
    everyone enjoys being appreciated.............so what is the problem with showing appreciation and reinforcing behavior that is appropriate ?
    i look forward to reading the book.

    • Posted By: NormL33 @ 02/14/2008 9:18:53 PM

      "Showing appreciation" has nothing to do with compstent animal training. Your response is smug, arrogant, high-handed, abrasive, abusive and obnoxious.

      • Posted By: NormL33 @ 02/14/2008 11:08:22 PM

        That should read "competent".

  • Posted By: aprilraven @ 02/14/2008 5:17:22 PM

    It's the same technique used to raise children too. You focus on the positives and ignore the negatives. If they whine, ignore them. If they ask politely, respond politely. It's not demeaning to men, it's teaching women how to communicate their wants in a non-degrading way. Calling it manipulation is putting a negative spin on what's really just simple common courtesies that we offer to our friends and co-workers and neglect to use on those who live with us.

    • Posted By: NormL33 @ 02/14/2008 7:03:27 PM

      Balderdash! Stop your back-pedaling for a moment. The author and her book have tried to get away with equating her relationship with her husband and the training of animals. For you pseuo-intellectuals, animal tainers control the behavior of animals ...that is how the "training" gets done!!!

      • Posted By: NormL33 @ 02/14/2008 11:06:50 PM

        That should read "pseudo-intellectuals".

  • Posted By: philmjr @ 02/14/2008 4:22:45 PM

    The issue isn't really about manipulation. It does in fact echo a manner in which many people do or should be treating one another. Who doesn't like to hear a kind word when they have completed a task, whether its simply picking up the laundry or something more demanding? Rewards for good/desired behaviors happen all the time, so I fail to see how the idea is so appauling. Waitresses are tipped for a job well done for example. While it's a monetary reward, it's still a matter of rewarding the desired behavior. Many parents reward children for a good report card also. I think that Sutherland's idea should be applied universally, not just within a marriage. How often have you ever bothered to contact a salesperson's manager because the sales associate was so helpful? Or do you reserve such contact for when you need to make a complaint? The point is that all desired behavior should be shown the proper appreciation. My husband doesn't often help with cleaning the house, but when he does I am sure to show my sincere appreciation. A person is more likely to perform and repeat a desired action, be it a husband picking up the laundry or a child cleaning his or her room without argument, if that person is shown some sort of positive reinforcment for the effort they put forth. Many wives and mothers, myself included at times, feel unappreciated for all they do as a home maker, parent, and breadwinner; yet we all keep toiling away in the interest of our families. The effort is worth while in and of itself, but it somehow seems a bit easier when you recieve praise for all the hardwork. Everyone knows how much better it feels to know the things you do are truly appreciated, and I see know reaon not to extend that same appreciation to others, male or female, child or adult, human or animal. There is nothing degrading about offering a kind word for a job well done.

    • Posted By: NormL33 @ 02/14/2008 9:56:45 PM

      What a croc of fatuous self-congratulatory psuedo-intellectualization!

      • Posted By: NormL33 @ 02/14/2008 11:01:47 PM

        That's pseudo-intellectualization,

  • Posted By: 1010baby @ 02/14/2008 4:25:33 PM

    Wow. The fact that the author was able to find a correlation involving her husband while attending an animal training class speaks volumes as to who she chose to spend the rest of her life with. My husband has idiosyncrasies that get under my skin at times, and vice versa, but I would never insult his intelligence by using Pavlovian methods to train him. Thank God I married someone who is not so simple-minded.

    • Posted By: tboneisme @ 02/14/2008 5:16:04 PM

      Oh c'mon! It's simple positive reinforcement! It is used on very intelligent people every day in many different situations- from the home to the office. It does not mean that her husband is stupid or simple-minded because she discovered that simply having positive, instead of negative, reactions is more productive! No one is perfect and learning to live together peacefully means compromising. Sometimes to get someone to compromise (and compromising yourself) means using simple psychology, like the positive reinforcement discussed in this book.

      • Posted By: NormL33 @ 02/14/2008 7:36:34 PM

        You C'mon! Your stepped in it Sheena, and no amount of BS rationalization is going to get you out of it!

        • Posted By: NormL33 @ 02/14/2008 11:00:46 PM

          You C'mon Sheena. YOU stepped in it, and no amount of BS rationalization is going to get you out of it. Stop making excuses for misandry!!!

  • Posted By: Shlabubu @ 02/14/2008 4:33:18 PM

    What amazes me is not this book's content, or even the adverse reactions to it, but how many misogynists are still out there, and are so very vocal about it. This is one book, by one author, and by the way it is NOT titled "How to Train A Husband," that is Newsweek's own editorial spin..the actual title is "What Shamu Taught Me About Life, Love, and Marriage: Lessons for People from Animals and Their Trainers," so all the comments about the title are completely facetious. It IS about spouses, husbands or wives, of course, since the author is a woman, she is talking about her experiences with her husband, but it is not a man-bashing book at all.

    However, it seems that so many bitter women-hating men are just looking for a reason, any reason to spew their sexist hatred and pitiable insecurities without bothering to really find out what the entire story is, or to even find out the actual title of the book, let alone read it. It really is a pretty harmless book, and hardly worth getting your BVDs in a bunch over.

    What's truly disturbing is not the idea of using animal-training techniques on your spouse (be it male or female)...no, what is truly disturbing is the amount of hateful vitriol and demonization of women in general. One has to pity such bleak souls so consumed and filled with hatred and bitterness

    • Posted By: NormL33 @ 02/14/2008 10:57:18 PM

      How do you define misogynists .. any male that disagrees with you? You and your kind are not the bastion and repository of all womankind and you never will be. Self-respecting men are very tired of defamatory insults from smug, smarmy bigots like you. This book, its author and publisher are misandrists ... face it!!!

  • Posted By: Baby Boomer @ 02/14/2008 9:37:00 PM

    Wow chicks86(Aka chicks on chicks 69) since you like to use nasty words--the only one I see making an A** out of themself on here is you.Now maybe your toilet is nasty like you, but I wipe mine down after each use and clean the bowl daily. Do You??? probably not as having to sit,you probably think you dont spray the sides and bottom of the seat. with your fluids.I'd go as far to bet My house is cleaner than yours.I've have just expressed my opinion on here earlier,which is what these sites are for and you try to come on like man busters and put every mans comments down.You want to see someone with no class,just look in the mirror at the over opinionated male hater that you are.,maybe you'll wake up before it eats you up.

    • Posted By: NormL33 @ 02/14/2008 10:26:37 PM

      OK .. so you ARE a lesbian, with the IQ of an earwig ... and you are obviously on one or more psychoactive substances. YOU are the man-hater (misandrist).

  • Posted By: Jack W @ 02/14/2008 5:14:31 PM

    Just another male bashing book, it should make it to Oprah's "must read" list very quickly (Steadman should have dumped that whale a longtime ago) . It will be a hit with all those dried up, overweight, angry women who think their lives should be a Harlequin book yet wonder why they are so lonely. If I was married to her (thank God I'm not) she would have divorce papers served on her the day after it went to publication so that I could be rid of her, but still get something for the suffering I endured having been married to this manipulative shrew. When men realize the power of the p---y is over rated in 99% of women, we will be liberated. Lastly, if American women think they have it so bad they should talk to their sisters in other cultures to see how good they have it here. Maybe Muslim men have the right idea. Take women off the pedestal and treat them like farm animals (I think I have an idea for a book).

    • Posted By: NormL33 @ 02/14/2008 9:22:28 PM

      Well put ! Bravo! It's time to stand up and fight back. After all, guys don't have feminist chain emails to sustain them every week. You know ... sisterhood and all that stuff.

  • Posted By: SMS0055 @ 02/14/2008 2:40:27 PM

    Chick it's bad for me to be control freaks, but it's ok for women to be control freaks? That's exactly what this article is suggesting, and your ok with that. Sounds like your the loser.

    • Posted By: chicks86 @ 02/14/2008 2:57:53 PM

      nope, NO controlling on either side, some people are reading much to deep into this article, Positive reinforcement is not controlling and both males and females should do this, it is much better than nagging and complaining at one another, wouldn't you agree? Training is a bad word, I will say that. It is ingrained in some-mens heads that they are superior which is ludacris. But then again there are some men out there who dont think they are better, they see them selves as equal. Maybe if the men who think they are higher up on the "equal" ladder stopped and saw them selves as equal then the women wouldn't have to act femisist anymore.

      • Posted By: NormL33 @ 02/14/2008 9:14:01 PM

        DO YOU HONESTLY BELIEVE THAT AMY SUTHERLAND SOMEHOW RE-DISCOVERED BEHAVIOUR MODIFICATION AND IS TRYING TO PROMOTE IT AS AN AID TO A HAPPY MARRIAGE? You need scuba gear to safely take an enema.

  • Posted By: chicks86 @ 02/14/2008 2:36:56 PM

    One last thing, you know it is funny here because it seems all the comments listed are probably from pig headed loser men, who in fact are control freaks. Wake up guys feminism is NOT a bad thing. BTW most women work these days and get into traffic with the men, what time period are you living in realityhurts? And men let themselves go as much as women, but you know there are some men and woman who dont do this, so please stop speaking for all of the women in the world! It is sad to see men like you still exsist. You are either divroced and obliviously bitter, because your ex took you to the cleaners, or a loser and forever single!

    • Posted By: realityhurts @ 02/14/2008 2:48:26 PM

      Unfortunately, I live in this time period. You are loathe to admit it, all, but get on the highway before 6 am and, guess what, one in twenty drivers is a woman. Do you women die at an earlier age than we, or do you complain that SS should be changed so that you can get more of it? Do you collect it based on your own earnings? Are 56% of the college attendees in this country now women? Do men suffer prostate cancer at a slightly higher rate than women suffer breast cancer? The answer to every one of these questions is, yes. Get over it, you appreciate an unfair playing field and it will take decades to even things out again...but they will, because men will simply stop participating in the game...

      • Posted By: tomswife @ 02/14/2008 3:38:14 PM

        All right! The prostate whine really made me laugh. If more men are dying because of that, it's because they're scared to death to discuss their plumbing with their doctors. So they will ignore it until the situation gets beyond help. Women aren't quite so wimpy about things and generally get checked out in time to effect a cure.

        You're such a whiner--Have a great Valentine's Evening

        • Posted By: NormL33 @ 02/14/2008 9:10:06 PM

          Your response is smug, arrogant. high-handed, abrasive abusive and obnoxious. This is about an author and a publisher getting away with bigotry and trying to make a buck off of it to boot!

    • Posted By: NormL33 @ 02/14/2008 9:05:11 PM

      The more I read your diatribes, the more I sincerely pray you'll find that special someone in your life.

    • Posted By: democratic @ 02/14/2008 2:44:50 PM

      there is no such thing as womens rights, only human rights. Feminism is a trick of the devil to persuade women to be just as evil as your oppressor. Do not fall for it.

  • Posted By: momoftwobugs @ 02/14/2008 2:45:16 PM

    Wow Marly629, norml33 and reality hurts, I don't know what horrid relationships you've either endured or ended just recently, but as a single mother of two I can assure you that men are not the only ones "driving the highways" to work everyday to support their families. I get Starbucks maybe once a month, when I can afford it, I've never played tennis in my life, and I don't drive nor could even afford a mercedes. So step off your soap boxes, especially trying to impress us with your big words there Mr. NormL33, it makes you sound pompous, not intelligent, and take the article for what it is. You don't have to buy it, most women don't either. It's just a nice little steam releaser for us that have a lot of stress every day.....just like you men.

    • Posted By: NormL33 @ 02/14/2008 9:02:30 PM

      My wife was a single mother raising two kids by herself, before I married her. Let me know where, and I'll mail you a gift card for Starbucks anytime.

    • Posted By: NormL33 @ 02/14/2008 8:26:18 PM

      What exactly did I write that made any reference to single mothers raising kids without a husband?
      I'll forgive you Attention Deficit Disorder and point out (again) that it is not legal to demean either sexc, and relating men or marriage to animal training is bogotry plain and simple!

  • Posted By: 78677867 @ 02/14/2008 2:59:50 PM

    It is so simple, just *** your man! I mean *** him till he doesnt want it anymore. *** him everyday till he says stop. I dont mean just spred your legs. I mean go to town on his dick. then you will have not only a trained man, but a loyal and happy one. Oh, yeah take it in the ass at least once a month. It's the icing on the cake!

    • Posted By: NormL33 @ 02/14/2008 8:58:24 PM

      Enter Your Comment


      Hey Chicks86, youtoo Carli, take especial note. This is truly what you call "a wise woman">


  • Posted By: phiomalibumalibu @ 02/14/2008 3:12:21 PM

    What is the way to a man's heart. Animal training? How bout great food and sex, and a laker game. =)
    Go to la-tickets.net get a pair of game tickets (close to the cheerleaders) Order some dogs and brewskys, get him buzzed a little, then take him home and give him what he wants. Learned this from my life coach....hehehe thought I share a little with you...
    Check out healthyvibesuk.com and be sure to get those game tickets....ps once we didn't make it out of the parking lot!

    • Posted By: missm68 @ 02/14/2008 3:37:10 PM

      huh? how are you even typing while your knuckles are dragging on the ground?

      • Posted By: NormL33 @ 02/14/2008 8:55:25 PM

        You are "JUST JEALOUS"! Try taling notes.

  • Posted By: smcdermott@syrcast.com @ 02/14/2008 3:11:22 PM

    Please......everyone knows that men are simple. It's not like it's a new concept. I have been happily married for 22 years and have used positive reinforcement for years. My husband acknowledges that I do this and he gives it right back to me and we laugh about it. Lighten up and your relationships will flourish.

    • Posted By: NormL33 @ 02/14/2008 8:51:45 PM

      With all due respect, I agree with what you've written; but this is about an author and a publisher distributing bigotry to impressionable people ... and getting paid for it.

  • Posted By: chicks86 @ 02/14/2008 2:29:15 PM

    WOW Marly629, you need to loosen up and relax, how about taking the womans shoes off and rubbing HER feet, after all "it wont kill you", but let me guess this would make you feel un-masculine right? This article is not about being bitter, but then again you seem to be a pig, a what do you call it , a male chauvinist, which refers not so much to the belief that males are superior to females. So you get some respect you control freak.

    • Posted By: NormL33 @ 02/14/2008 8:30:52 PM

      Excuuuse Meeee? Control Freak? As inusing animal training techniques on your husband ... and crowing about it?

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