How to Train a Husband

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  • Posted By: mjlasota @ 02/14/2008 3:06:29 PM

    it's simple women: Make your husband happy in the bedroom and keep his stomach happy and you will get what you want. American women are too spoiled, blind, and lazy to understand this concept. They would prefer for the man to cook and clean with an apron on while she wears the pants. Gimmie a break! Grow up little children.

    • Posted By: tboneisme @ 02/14/2008 4:38:57 PM

      It's simple MEN: Make your WIFE happy in the bedroom and keep HER stomach happy and you will get what you want. American MEN are too spoiled, blind and lazy to understand this concept. They would prefer for the WOMAN to cook and clean with an apron while HE wears the pants. Gimme ME a break, Mjlasota. It works both ways, and either way it is WRONG. Marriage should be a partnership. You should strive to make EACH OTHER happy by trying to understand and accomodate each other's needs and desires. Wanting an equal partnership does not make you spoiled, blind and lazy, regardless of whether you are a woman or a man, it makes you smart. And ultimately it will make you and your partner happy. These sexist, antiquated ideas of what a marriage should be need to stop!!!

    • Posted By: tboneisme @ 02/14/2008 4:28:31 PM

      It's simple MEN: Make your WIFE happy in the bedroom and keep HER stomach happy and you will get what you want. American MEN are too spoiled, blind and lazy to understand this concept. They would prefer for the WOMAN to cook and clean with an apron while HE wears the pants. Gimme ME a break, Mjlasota. It works both ways, and either way it is WRONG. Marriage should be a partnership. You should strive to make EACH OTHER happy by trying to understand and accomodate each other's needs and desires. Wanting an equal partnership does not make you spoiled, blind and lazy, regardless of whether you are a woman or a man, it makes you smart. And ultimately it will make you and your partner happy. These sexist, antiquated ideas of what a marriage should be need to stop!!!

    • Posted By: Char8806 @ 02/14/2008 3:25:54 PM

      Sounds like the men you are explaining are too spoiled, blind and lazy if they can not participate in everyday life. There is so much more to a relationship than your stomach or your sexual appetite. Maybe a respect class would help you. We don't live in the dark ages anymore, not all women get to stay home and keep a happy little home, we are out working, that USE to be the MAN's responsibility, the ball was dropped in YOUR court so if women have to help support the household, then men can "help" around the house, and that includes picking up your own socks and making a meal now and then. Wouldn't hurt you to clean your sprinkles off the toilet seat either. Are you even married? Or are you waiting til you grow up for that?

  • Posted By: Jayameye @ 02/14/2008 4:38:00 PM

    If you haven't noticed, it is the trainer who is being trained. Notice how she actually admitted that in the following exert: "In fact, she was the one who wound up being retrained, as she taught herself not to take her husband's actions personally, and not to react when he did things that annoyed her. DiSesa also says she retrained herself to stop criticizing and confronting the men she worked with, and instead use "S and M," seduction and manipulation, to get her way." So when you think you are training your puppy, or like this article says, your husband, it is actually YOU who is being changed. Doesn't that make you feel less disgusted?

  • Posted By: snarf snarf @ 02/14/2008 4:35:41 PM

    I don't know what type of men this chick has been dating, or what planet or era she is from, but what the f__k? Times have changed sweetheart!! "Don't nag about the flithy laundry piled on the floor, but reward him when he picks up one dirty sock"?? what?? First of all, I never have a pile of dirty laundry, what era did this author grow up in? This is a disgusting form of sexism and it takes me back to that stupid Carl's Jr. commercial when that guy is shopping and can't figure out how to cook a damn sloppy joe! If a guy can'tgo to the market and fix a home made meal then he's either got down sydrome or has been dropped on his head 100 times. This author is living in a closet and needs to get out more. If I am an anomaly, which I doubt I am in today's society, then there are plenty of guys out there just like me. I cook, I clean, wash dishes, vacuum, dust, take out the trash, do my own laundry. If these are the chores women has been complaining about and say break their backs if these are the excuses to gain control and used against men in many a argument (which I am unfamiliar with since I take care of myself) then I am laughing in womens faces! These chores take little effort and hardly any time. Even after some of these daily chores I still have the energy to go to the gym 4 to 5 days a week to look and feel good. That's an extra bonus to that special woman to enjoy. I'm guessing that there are a lot more men like this in this new millenium for women to stop there bitching and open their eyes! No more excuses and what is it with women letting themselves go after they are married, and secretly fantasizing about other men when their asses aren't even in shape. Sad thing is, the tell tale sign of when a women is thinking of cheating or already is cheating, is when they do finally get their lazy butts in the gym and work on their self esteem. Like Katt Williams said, "he didn't do anything to your self esteem!" "It's called self esteem ***, tha's esteem of YOURSELF!!" Work on yourselves and I am guessing this kind of talk never comes up, and who, man or woman wants to control someone??? How is that going to benefit the goodness of your soul? Using someone and treating them like they are nothing? Sad, but I've seen it so many times and I always wonder, "why are these people putting up with this and sacrificing their well being" - take control of yourself and treat you and others with respect and you'll live life better and be happier!! I hope that this author goes broke and if I am in a discussion with or date any woman who has read this book and believes in the concept, I will feel deep sorrow for that poor sole!

  • Posted By: jazzyjenny02 @ 02/14/2008 3:46:45 PM

    Why can't people just accept that we all need and desire different things, especially when it comes to gender roles? Some people are perfectly content with the traditional female role, while others are not. People are still procreating and it doesn't seem like motherhood is going to go out of style so why are people so intimidated and angered by women that break out of that mold? It's not for you, OK, but don't tell people they are not real women for it. So being a real women means not being able to be whatever you want, even if that doesn't mean having kids??
    People are people, and this is why we wearch to find those that are complatible with our needs and values. I DO think that successful compatibility comes from a respect and understanding, not manipulation and one up-ing your mate. I consider myself a feminist that respects my boyfriend because he respects me. I respect all the mothers out there, but don't try to tell me that's what I have to do. I will if I want to.

    • Posted By: mjlasota @ 02/14/2008 4:16:40 PM

      I feel sorry for your boyfriend. You will do what you want? That is what is wrong. This attitude of I'll do what I want when I want. If you want a relationship to work to do your part in making it work. You don't do what you want when it benefits you. Relationships are selfless, not selfish. And no, because I enjoy a woman who challenges my intellect, but also understands tradtional values that doesn' t make me wrong one bit. On the otherhand, many women of today, including you Jazzyjenny, unfortunately believe that the world owes them something and how dare their significant other want to be met. I respect not only women, but people, who understand what it takes for a relationship to work. Concepts such as selflessness, understanding, communication, love, and committment. And as I've said before, that is fine if there are gender reversals in other homes. That is just not going to be MY HOME. If a woman doesn't like it then don't date me. Plus, I met a great woman who understands life and we see things the same way. You're an idiot Jazzyjenny.

      • Posted By: jazzyjenny02 @ 02/14/2008 4:25:58 PM

        Someone seems vewwy vewwy angry.
        I actually think we agree in a way, mjlasota. I am not saying I will do whatever I want when I want. I am saying people need to respect who they are with and seek those who share the same interests and values. I do not want to let my man do all the home repairs... I can help. I don't want to have to cook for him all the time, we can share these responsibilities. I am just saying that to me, understanding and commitment means wanting the same types of things. I am glad you found someone that wants the same things as you do. See, it works for everyone. Just thank god that women isn't me :)

        • Posted By: laplap @ 02/14/2008 4:34:54 PM

          jazzyjenny02, you are a close minded idiot, I bet you think Liberal Billary will get the nomination. jazzyjenny02, you are a close minded idiot, I bet you think Liberal Billary will get the nomination.

  • Posted By: kilted @ 02/14/2008 4:32:48 PM

    I remember talking to a man who had been married for well over 60 years, to the same woman, and when asked what his secret to a long marriage was, he said, "know when to shut up". The only people who say that they are perfectly compatible with their mates are not married yet. No two people are perfectly compatible and must learn to live together. It's called compromising. Learning to live together, not Pavlovian science.

  • Posted By: phycom @ 02/14/2008 4:32:25 PM

    Ok we really dont need the trash talk all your doing is reenforcing the idea that we as men are stupid and need training. Here is the sad truth, men must be willing to understand that when they take on a spouse they no longer live alone and need to learn to share; ie: space, tv, bed, food, bathroom,time.
    Women need to realise.....WE ARE MEN!

  • Posted By: philmjr @ 02/14/2008 4:32:19 PM

    Plagiarism is an intentional act, so that's a pretty harsh accusation to make. Just because two people have the same idea doesn't make it plagiarism.
    Regardless of the origin of the idea, I approve of it. While it certainly not a novel concept, it echos how many people do or should treat one another. Everyone knows how much better it feels when you know that your efforts are appreciated. Whether that effort is simply picking laundry up off the floor or completeing some huge project at your job, the positive acknowledgment carries a lot of weight. Parents reward children for good report cards, waitresses are tipped for good service, my dog gets a treat when she sits when asked, and I for one always thank my other half for help around the house. Positive reinforcement has gotten me a lot farther than nagging, that's for sure. How many people would continue to perform minor courtesies, such as holding the door open for someone else, if no one ever said a simple "thank you"? There's nothing degrading about showing someone the proper appreciation, whether its a spouse, child, dog, or stranger. Offering kind words for desired behavior is no more than common courtesy, plain and simple.

  • Posted By: cgwstaug @ 02/14/2008 4:30:08 PM

    ARE YOU KIDDING ME!!!!!???? That's it. This is where I draw the line. The Estrogen stops here. In a time that women already dominate men more than they ever have in our history, some jackass(pundt intended) comes out with a new way to emasculate men even more. I don't know who I'm more disgusted with Amy Sutherland or her husband the human seal. I'm all for women's rights, but what about men's rights? The right to me a man. I mean when did this become a bad thing. I know, we burp out loud, we pass gas occasionally, we forget to open the door, etc, etc...All those little wonderful little idiosyncrasies that drive the opposite sex insane. Ivan Pavlov never mentioned whether the dog he trained to prove his theory of
    negative reinforcement was male or female or did he? If he did shame on him as well. Men are suppose to be men. We already go along with the idea that our women are constantly trying to change us into some idea concept of the "perfect male specimen". I'm going to say what most men won't; Try as you may you are not going to change us. It's the beauty and well, the holy grale of what being a man is all about. We don't mind following the rules and being, much as I despise the word "obediant" to our loved ones, but enough is enough. Maybe I will write a book on why women out live men. H-m-m-m. Hey, we already concede to the notion that we will do what it takes (within reason, of course) to make her happy. As the golf commentator author David Feherty so eloquently puts it; "The One Who Must Be Obeyed". Ever over hear a guy, say,"yeah, guess I'm still in training", which translated means; You can't teach an old dog new tricks or better yet you can't teach an old enzyme new tricks. On this Valentine's Day just look at your slovenly husband with the shirt not quite tucked in correectly and his proverbial unzipped zipper and say; " I love you just the way you are and I wouldn't change a thing."
    tricks. It's just the way we are designed. Don't mess with the "X's and "y's. Mars will always be Mars and Venus will always be Venus.

  • Posted By: janedoe08 @ 02/14/2008 4:28:16 PM

    I agree with you, bluqq. This also plagiarizes Dont Shoot the Dog by Karen Pryor (1985), among others.

  • Posted By: Granddaddy @ 02/14/2008 4:27:28 PM

    Yeah, the most endangered species in the world is the young to middle age man in our increasingly femenan dominated society. Question: When will the book be out about how to "train" you wife to be a lady, spedn enough time with the kids that they don't think the nanny is their mother, and cook well enough to entice the whole family to sit down around the family table at least once a day? But no, you have turned manipulating hubby into the next olympic sport. Congrats, you are contributing to the downfall of our culture.

  • Posted By: mejeff @ 02/14/2008 4:26:00 PM

    We are all so selfish....not one of us has stopped to think about how Shamu feels about all of this. BTW....isn't Shamu a FEMALE whale?

  • Posted By: BandysGirl @ 02/14/2008 1:32:20 PM

    Women give more up in a relationship than men do, we put careers on hold for families, give up friends yall dont like, and clean up after you. Yes there are things guys give up too, but woman give way more in the long run. If you dont want us to go instabitch, as you put it, stop doing the things you know bother us. I'm not gonna reward my fiancee for picking up after himself for 2 reasons, one- your adults and your mothers raised you better and two- I not your house keeping. My fiancee does almost as much around the house as I do and doesnt expect to be rewarded, its called respect for your partner and more men should learn it. Women are not only equal?Most are darn better than the slobs they end up with. Some men need to be trained like dogs because thats all they understand, a REAL, ADULT male doesnt need to be tricked into doing the things that need to be done. If you want rewards for small crap that you should have the common courtisy to already do, then you need to buy a wife on line. Its called compromise, giving equally in a relationship, not expecting to be rewarded, but giving rewards. If you want to live like pigs be my guest just dont expect me to come over AT ALL, FOR ANY REASON. I havent tried to change or train my fiancee, he respects me and our relationship enough do not do the stupid crap that bothers me and I treat him the same. And as far as sef-centered children, I have not met a man yet that doesnt think about himself and what he gets in return. Most men are great when you first start dating, call all the time, go out to dinners, flowers, compliments, the works all just to get a little, and after a few months it all changes, he wants to do what he wants when he wants and with who he wants, he calls when he wants something, dinners out are on the woman now, and flowers only if he did something wrong, and women want the man they fell in love with, not the pig headed butthole they became, sorry if some of us want the fairytale ending. Dont put up a front just to get some for a while then treat us like crap once you've got it.

    • Posted By: whosyourdaddy @ 02/14/2008 4:25:16 PM

      wait!! I see your future,,,divorced in less than 5 years

    • Posted By: Dave24yrsold @ 02/14/2008 4:08:01 PM

      I'm kind of lost on how to respond to this person, she obvioulsy has a lot of bitterness which is just sad..."my fiancee does almost as much" lol listen to that conceded tone. "Women give more up in a raltionship than men do," I'm sorry that's just plan wrong, both sides give up a lot and anyone in a true relationship knows that it goes both ways, it's very condiscending to assume that you gave up more or that what you may have given up is more valueble then the things that he gave up for you. In this instance he obviously gave up a pair of testicles to be with you and I feel very sorry that he hasn't found someone who will treat him right. Don't worry though, either you'll get bored with him and set him free or he'll realize who he married one day and break it off, things will work themselves out.

      "we put careers on hold for families, give up friends that you don't like and clean up after you" ... this is just so funny... first of all, I could totally be wrong maybe guys and girls can fill me in, but from my experience the vast majority of the time it is the female in the relationship that wants the family (aka babies) and guys are the ones that want to postpone that until they are finacially stable, have a good job, home, or maybe just need more time to grow up. You are "CHOOSING" to give up your career to do something that "YOU" want and most likely pressuring your man to go along with. So can I quit my job aka "put my career on hold" take some yoga classes then complain about how much I gave up for you?, Your partner is giving up a lot to have a family that you want! Give credit where its due. You don't want kids, don'y make em! If you do want them, don't talk about what you gave up to get what you wanted!

      Gave up friends that we don't like? She's probably talking about exboyfriends and she wonders why that might make a guy feel uncomfortable, I personally believe my g/f can hang out with whoever she wants, if she wants to leave me, just let me know, she shouldn't have say who I hang out with nor should I who she hangs out with provided there's trust, obviously that's missing in your relationship that's why you are so controlling and angry.

      "clean up after you" didn't you just rant and rave about how you don't do that? Pretty sure that means your not allowed to use that as an arguement then... but w/e right?, GL with that marraige of partnership, all my best to your fiancee he needs it....

    • Posted By: mjlasota @ 02/14/2008 2:02:25 PM

      BandysGirl: Actually, men put up a front as a result of women creating that. True, why do all those things if they are not appreciated. Why not just get some. Women makes good guys into bad boys who don't care anymore. Spoiled American women like you are selfish and want to be in control. I feel sorry for your fiance. He needs to grow some manhood and leave a spoiled woman like you. You'll probably leave him first though because you will get bored. You will want some excitement like a guy from a fantasy romance novel. You put up with men, that's a joke. We put up with your childish non-sense. And if you were a true women you should pick up after him and cook for him WITH A SMILE ON YOUR FACE. Just as he puts up with your emotional whining and selfish childish rants over and over again, which is much more strenuous then picking up some socks. And not all men don't pick up after themselves, I do. But I'll be damned if I'm going to be chastized because these spoiled little brats like you are frustrated because you are asked to do your part in a relationship. Men don't change, women are the ones who change. What happened to the sweet girl after the chase of getting you. What happened to the sex life being so good and then she changes it. Women try everything they can to get a guy who is a commodity. Once they get him they turn into someone different. They stop fixing themselves up. They stop being sweet. Women love to put on a movie act when they want something. That is why women rarely have any strong relationships with other women. Those friendships will be broken in a heartbeat over a man. Women love to compete with other women and now they want to compete in jobs with men. Grow up you little children and face reality. Your idols in life should be people like my grandmother, not these Hollywood stars or women of power.

  • Posted By: Baby Boomer @ 02/14/2008 4:24:55 PM

    Wow hope you discus my book when it comes out. How to train a female to replace the toilet paper roll when used up and How to put the toilet seat back up when done when at a single mans house

  • Posted By: laplap @ 02/14/2008 4:24:21 PM

    jazzyjenny02, you are a close minded idiot, I bet you think Liberal Billary will get the nomination.

  • Posted By: laplap @ 02/14/2008 4:24:02 PM

    jazzyjenny02, you are a close minded idiot, I bet you think Liberal Billary will get the nomination.

  • Posted By: laplap @ 02/14/2008 4:22:07 PM

    jazzyjenny02, you are a close minded idiot, I bet you think Liberal Billary will get the nomination.

  • Posted By: laplap @ 02/14/2008 4:21:40 PM

    jazzyjenny02, you are a close minded idiot, I bet you think Liberal Billary will get the nomination.

  • Posted By: bluqq @ 02/14/2008 4:21:34 PM

    I knew I had seen this concept before. Check out the movie from 1962 If a Man Answers starring Sandra Dee. Nice plagiarism.

  • Posted By: Lilly01 @ 02/14/2008 1:31:26 PM

    I never ever critisize my husband. He is the best thing that has ever happened to me! I had the worst and believe me this man is 180 degrees different. So, if he leaves a dirty sock on the floor.....I pick it up and think if this is the only thing that he does that is "awful" well, so be it. He doesn't drink, smoke, do drugs. He accepts me for who I am even when I weighed in at more than 300 pounds! (I am now 180 because he loves me unconditionally) He goes to work, and comes home to me. He works hard at 2 jobs and doesn't complain! He helps me find MY keys when I can't find them and doesn't give me any grief over my forgetfulness. He gets up 1/2 hour early when he doesn't have to and starts up my car for me so it is nice and warm when I leave for work. I love this man just the way he is and he doesn't need "training". I am grateful every day and thank God that I got this wonderful man!

    • Posted By: Dave24yrsold @ 02/14/2008 4:18:13 PM

      That's very sweet, I'm glad you found someone you are so happy with, best wishes to the both of you

  • Posted By: audiolovinslave @ 02/14/2008 4:04:03 PM

    will you occasionally take it up the azz too? jk - but seriously folks, John Gray wrote the book, "Men are from Mars, Women are from Venus"...very similar stuff but John is way more pc. Thanks for all your amusing comments, and Happy Valentine's Day, everyone!!! Now get off the dam computers and make whoopie with your significant others!!!! :)

    • Posted By: jazzyjenny02 @ 02/14/2008 4:17:53 PM

      "Now get off the dam computers and make whoopie with your significant others!!!! :)"
      Here, here! I am going to go tell my boyfriend how much I love him for liking me just the way I am. And thank my lucky stars is not half the men on this forum. Can't we all just get along??? Happy V-Day!

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