So Much for a Warm Welcome

Wait a minute: the Right gave us George W. Bush and Dick Cheney. As punishment for your sins, you have to sit out the next 100 elections. And, since apparently you don't think, no one cares what you "think". And why hasn't the New York Bar lifted Ann Coulter's license to practice for conduct that is clearly against all norms of civilized behavior?

Nothing will ever get done unless pride is swallowed and our politicians meet in the middle, where the majority of Americans reside.

Sure McCain is not a true conservative but he is no liberal and on the Iraq war he is a fanatic with his 100 years comment. How much further right can you get than that? I think McCain's problem from the conservative perspective is that he is too willing to compromise with Democrats. He tells us that Ronald Reagan did that. Well, yes he did but only as a last resort and from a position of strength. If you can't get your whole program passed, then get what you can passed. I would say that McCain is center right, just slightly to the right of center.

Both Hillary & Obama are left of center but not far left. In any event, doesn't it make more sense for conservatives to vote for the person furthest to the right? This is my policy when voting. I respect the views of the people who say that they cannot vote for McCain but I would ask them to reconsider. Do they really want to help Hillary win the White House? And for Christian conservatives like Dr Dobson, do they really want to help put Bill Clinton back into the White House?

There is such a thing as strategic voting. You don't always have to vote for the person on the ballot. You can actually use your vote for another reason. In this election a Christian conservative could use his or her vote for McCain as an anti-hillary vote. That clears the conscience issue. Conservatives are fully 1/3 of the electorate. We can make a differerence; we can keep the Clintons both Hillary & Billary out of the White House. But in order to do that, we must all vote!

The whole issue of John Mc Cain, to my mind, is fairly straightforward.
As someone who's spent his entire adult life overseas, my knowledge and understanding or American politics is, admittedly, limited. My decisions tend to be very personal. A recent example would be the race between George Bush and John Kerry. While I did NOT like the idea of another "Bush" in the White House so soon after George senior, I despised John Kerry for his treacherous behavior during the Vietnam War. As a veteran of that conflict, I was determined to vote for anyone other than Kerry. He was, in my eyes, unfit to be Commander-in-Chief.
In the present race for the White House, I find my self facing a similar predicament. I have been a Republican all my life but, if John Mc Cain becomes the Republican nominee, I will vote for his Democratic opponent, regardless of whom may be.
My beef with Mc Cain is visceral. I believe, in my heart, that the Senator is a proven liar. I believe, in my heart, that Mc Cain betrayed American servicemen who were abandoned in South East Asia after the fall of Saigon. Further, it is my absolute belief that Mc Cain knew full well that POW's and MIA's were left behind and used his position on the Senate Committee to suppress evidence that would prove that point.
I do not care a wit about the gaggle of questionable tin (medals) Mc Cain somehow bagged as a prisoner. Equally, I don't much care about the blatantly absurd suggestion that he is a "Great American Hero" , "A Hero of the Vietnam War" or "POW Hero." This is just overblown, sophomoric rhetoric with little connection to reality.
The fact that a man, who served in the military, would knowing betray those who were left behind is all the reason I need to know he should not be in the White House. Vote for John Mc Cain? Not on your life!
There's a reason why there are so many Vietnam Veterans Against Mc Cain.
And for those who find my appraisal of the Senator outrageous or, unbelievable, I suggest reading Bill Hendon's book, An enormous crime, before making a judgement. If Hendon's book is too daunting, read Barbara Birchim's story, Is anybody listening, A true story about POW/MIA's in the Vietnam War.
Mc Cain isn't the only one who betrayed his brotherhood and honor for political gain but, he's the one running for President. And he doesn't deserve to be Commander in Chief.

My my my, we are just wasting our breath and time here aren't we??

Let me make something crystal clear for those of you who are in doubt: REGARDLESS OF THE CANDIDATE, THERE WILL BE NO REPUBLICAN PRESIDENT FOR AT LEAST THE NEXT 16 YEARS. YOUR HERO, GEORGE W BUSH HAS DESTROYED THE REPUBLICAN PARTY.

Thank God for that. I suggest that all you Rush-puppets and so-called "conservatives" get used to the idea now.

This is all hogwash. The Republican'ts know that the only way they can get McCain in the white house is to claim that he is not one of them. The general populous is so discouraged by what the so called conservatives have done in congress and the white house for the last eight years, that they must paint McCain as being "too liberal". That is the only way they can garner the independant voter, and the independant voter is the one choosing our next president. What better way to gain independant support for your candidate than to have the right wing pundits say they hate him? Limbaugh, Hannity, and Coulter, are stumping for McCain by stumping against him. Picture Streisand railing against Hillary by saying that she isn't liberal enough, these guys aren't stupid, but they are crazy, like a fox.

I think it is time that the hard core right wingers realize that true conservatives dont agree with them. They want to push thier idealism on everyone else. I used to vote Republican until they lost thier minds and gave the nomination to Bush 8 years ago.

This story just goes to show you that the first victims of fundamentalism are always the ones that agree with the zealots, just not 100%.

Have fun splintering your party dummies.

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11/2008 7:43:49 AM
Comment: The Road To a GOP Minority
A Florida project shows why Republicans will remain in the minority.
- By George F. Will

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If McCain starts pandering to exremists like Coulter, conservative-leaning independents (like me) will drop him like a hot potato. He's walking a fine line.