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  • Posted By: shmeter @ 02/12/2008 3:12:09 PM

    There is no such thing as "hidden" racism. Think about it. Racism is racism. There is no "reverse" racism, nor any adjective that can describe racism. EVERYONE is racist on some levels. EVERYONE has prejudices. NO ONE IS A SAINT IN THIS WORLD. |t's okay. The best you can do is understand yourself and talk about it with others in an open way. No relationships can come out of forced moral standards or LAWS.




  • Posted By: helpfulheroine @ 02/12/2008 3:08:04 PM

    Rich, educated Whites are voting for Obama for the obvious reason that it makes them feel better about themselves. They think that if they vote for Obama, a (half) black man, then they aren't racist! Thus, the fact that they have to prove this in itself illustrates that they are still racist - secret or not. The fact is, everyone is racist. Who cares. As long as everyone acknowledges the reality and tries to not let these stereotypes effect how they treat people, that's what really matters. People who claim not to be racist are the most racist. So yes, that means white (Caucasian) Americans, and especially Europeans, are more racist than other races. At least the rest of us admit it. Only when everyone admits it, can we honestly address the situation.

    p.s. Tiger Woods is mostly Asian. Why do you think he likes golf so much? Ha ha.

  • Posted By: sylthe4th @ 02/12/2008 2:55:58 PM

    i love it when white people take a second to realize " maybe i don't know EVERYTHING about what it means to be black in america" i know its a hard thing to admit. i wish i could challenge someone to sit down in your truest of moments and ask yourself that question. do i really know what it's like to grow up in a racist society as a minority, just as i don't know what its like to part of the majority (or oppressing) group in a racist society iwould never assume i know how you would feel, all i can do is ask. but thank god things are different now, i'm 21, but i still have to grow up under a person who experienced REAL, OUTRIGHT, BLATANT, PHYSICAL racism. my mother,.. so i still have to fight some of the past in order to grow

  • Posted By: atlvoiceofreason @ 02/12/2008 2:40:49 PM

    Comment: Please remember, psychologists (including the author of this article) have their own bias in running this test - i.e. they are inclined to uncover so called "hidden racism" because if they didn't, how could they justify the need for the test (and their funds to run it , or in the case of this author, the reason to write this article). Their very jobs depend on their finding the conclusion that we harbor hidden biases. There are so many holes in this test, it is ridiculous. Apparently, even the testers reclutantly recognize this - note that there is a disclaimer at the very bottom of the test : "the results of all tasks may be influenced by a number of variables, including your familiarity with the categories". Does the author of this article point this out? No. He writes as if the test is valid scientific proof and therefore "hidden racism" is a foregone conclusion. For example, one of the words used frequently in the test was "noxious". Now, I know what "noxious" means, but my reaction time to it might be slower than to a word like "poison" or "ugly" - whcih ellicit a more immediate response. Does the test measure the number of times people get that word wrong (or other more complex words) and factor it and others into an overall distribution curve? I don't know. But I'll bet neither does the author of this artcile. Yet he goes on to conclude that we are all susceptible to "hidden racism". Their clearly vested inteterest in perpetuating continued hand wringing over racism, hidden or otherwise, should cause everyone who reads this article to pause and think very long and hard about the fact that an intellectual industry that has grown around this cause celebre.

  • Posted By: deacibi @ 02/12/2008 2:18:07 PM

    When will this

  • Posted By: tmon9 @ 02/12/2008 2:13:01 PM

    People that do not inform themselves on each candidate before pulling the trigger in the curtain protected voting booth, may tend to vote for who they are least affraid of. However, I agree, that they may vote that way uncontiously. So before you vote, it is your civic duty to inform yourself. It benefits you by obtaining more knowledge. It also benefits our country because informed people made an important informed decision.

  • Posted By: dacaval @ 02/12/2008 2:10:02 PM

    Anyone who believes that the Republicans in Congress will work with Obama is naive. Having the most liberal voting record in the Senate does not sound like a man willing to compromise. It is obvious that when the word liberal is a dirty word to most republicans, there will be no common ground. It is amazing to me how many Americans want all unpleasantness to go away so they won't have to deal with reality.

  • Posted By: melonhead4 @ 02/12/2008 2:08:43 PM

    Were any of those nurses recovered addicts themselves? If not, they did the test on the wrong group. Nurses in the industry aren't going to be the most empathetic, instead it's going to be recovered addicts -- they're the people they should have done the test on. Smoking is also an addiction, however that does not mean that a doctor specializing in lung cancer is necessarily going to be sympathic towards a patient who smoked 3 packs a day for 20 years.

  • Posted By: melonhead4 @ 02/12/2008 2:08:07 PM

    Were any of those nurses recovered addicts themselves? If not, they did the test on the wrong group. Nurses in the industry aren't going to be the most empathetic, instead it's going to be recovered addicts -- they're the people they should have done the test on. Smoking is also an addiction, however that does not mean that a doctor specializing in lung cancer is necessarily going to be sympathic towards a patient who smoked 3 packs a day for 20 years.

  • Posted By: grobins52 @ 02/12/2008 2:07:03 PM

    This is a hard article to read because it really makes the current stalemate that we will have in the delgate race in the Democratic race will be so close. There is no way that Barack or Hillary will get to the 2025 target with the pledged delegates. I've created spreadsheet forecasting models and giving Barack high percentage of delegates compared to Hillary and vice-versa AND neither of them reached the 2025. So, here we go with the Super Delegates making the call at the August convention. This will only polarize the two camps even more and whoever gets the nomination... the other camp will be grieving and it will take time to get over it. And, if Barack gets the nomination, I believe that the Hillary camp of supporters will not come completely to the Barack campaign for President and this will be enhanced by what this article is talking about hidden biases. He won't win. The same goes for Hillary if she gets the nod (minus the racial bias) because I don't see all of the Obama supporters coming to support Hillary. The only way that the race can be secured is that Hillary and Obama choose to be on the same ticket. The shape of that ticket really doesn't make a difference to me... I just want to make sure we don't continue the Republican leadership in the White House. I wish both camps of supporters wouldn't flame the divide between the two camps. It will kill the nominee's chances when it comes to the general election.

  • Posted By: Ronny2 @ 02/12/2008 12:55:31 PM

    This author and the IAT go beyond that, however, by collapsing complex human behaviors and motives into simple categories of their own definition while simultaneously demanding that we engage in complicated second-guessing of our motives in an endless search for "secret hate."

    • Posted By: tmon9 @ 02/12/2008 1:59:59 PM

      If you look at both Hillary's and Obama's plans, they are about the same. So the argument that Hillary has more substance is absurd. The reason why Barack Obama will get things done, unlike Hillary, is that he can work with all parties to get things done. So please, before you vote, inform yourself. It is better for you and for our country.

  • Posted By: kiske @ 02/12/2008 11:54:16 AM

    YES, WE ARE RACIST
    I have not doubt about it, in the USA there is still a lot of racism. For so long we have been trying or ignoring that issue and it has been moving slowly but in a powerful way in our society. Yes, there is still racism and gender issue that many don???t want to acknowledge. One example is what is going on this campaign. Lets look this:
    ??? The main reason why the media (most 0f the media-white men) are pushing for Obama is not because he is better prepared to lead this country, but because he is a men, and it is better a AA men than a women to be president. It will be to humiliating for many white men and even women to see that a woman is the president of this country.
    ??? Look who is supporting Obama and who are supporting Clinton; it is clear, the voters are divided based on gender and race.
    ??? The media is working so hard, especially MSNBC on destroying Mrs. Clinton because the idea of having her as the president is unacceptable. The worst is that many American are not smart enough to read and get the fact by reading, investigating, listening the runners, and depend on whatever those white men in the media provide everyday.

    Well, if there is not racism and gender issue in this country, then what is it? It is time to grow up and face the fact, it is time to recognize our own biases and work on it, because the election of the president of the USA is not about gender, or race, it is about the skill, the capacity and skill to deal with the thousands of problems that they have to face in the white house everyday.
    I hate when I see people voting for the candidates bases on their race or gender, and not basis on the issue itself.

    • Posted By: dkm_1981 @ 02/12/2008 1:57:53 PM

      I used to love hillary. However, after seeing how divisive and polarizing she can be, I started disliking her. If she was more like Obama in character and in her politics, I would definetly have a problem, b/c I couldn't vote for either of them w/out neglecting the other. Hilllary Clinton is engulfed in power and a sense of entitlement, which is bothersome. She continues to state her experiance as a way of proving that she deserves this job, rather than showing how she will earn the job. The Clinton's are in itself too engulfed in corporate america to understand the plight of the working man. Barack Obama is more in touch with these types of voters b/c of his background.

  • Posted By: beckyn @ 02/12/2008 1:54:27 PM

    What is the impact of mixing the familiar with the unfamiliar in a test like this? Sorting familiar words or images is fundamentally different than interspersing images of persons we're not familiar with. I would guess that a sports fan wouldn't mindlessly filter Michael Jordan or Tiger Woods into anything other than the same pile that "glorious" goes into. Establishing and universally applying conclusions from such a subjective test raises doubts for me.

  • Posted By: dynamo211 @ 02/12/2008 1:53:38 PM

    For starters, the subject matter is suppose to be about race which does not include smokers, drug addicts or other things that you are not born as.

  • Posted By: bahcom @ 02/12/2008 1:53:02 PM

    Most of the racial prejudices during this campaign has been black against white. Of course they will say it is deserved from the years of injustice they suffered. IN reality, this charge is being led by people who are avenging the sins of yersterday. They, themselves are midfle and upper class blacks who are reaping all the advantages of this society and none of the suffering. THe turning point was the blatent misinterpretation of two completely non-racial remarks,; ie. the fairy tale and the MLK and Johnson. Both were cast as something racial by the likes of Congressman Jessie Jackson, Jr and scores of black pundits and white Clinton haters like Chris Matthews and others on MSNBC. It was Matthews who proudly announced after New Hampshire that it was cryptic white racism that won for Clinton. Once the words were out of his mouth, without any evidence, the word was injected into the campaign and faned into a wild fire by the Obama campaign., where any criticism of the Senator is turned into a racial meaning. They need this because of the shallowness of Obama's policies and experience and the press has been complicit in the free pass and biased support they give him. If one compares his economic, military, foreign policy and health care intiatives to Clinton's they are far inferior and suggest he is unprepared for the Presidency. His race has nothing to do with that. Bahcom@aol.com

  • Posted By: beckyn @ 02/12/2008 1:51:29 PM

    What is the impact of mixing the familiar with the unfamiliar in a test like this? Sorting familiar words or images is fundamentally different than interspersing images of persons we're not familiar with. I'm certain that a sports fan wouldn't mindlessly filter Michael Jordan or Tiger Woods into anything other than the same pile that "glorious" goes into. Establishing and universally applying conclusions from such a subjective test raises doubts for me.

  • Posted By: rescueyou @ 02/12/2008 11:32:27 AM

    Every woman out there for Hillary should pray to God that she is not our first female president. Regardless of how you may feel toward her as a candidate, she is a devisive figure and will spur opposition for no other reason than she is Clinton Redux. When she is unable to be an effective leader due to the constant emnity from republicans, the country will not say " Well that's what we get for electing someone who is disliked by a large segment of the population." It will be " That's what we get for voting for a woman."
    As a woman (for full disclosure, an independant voter) I know that if she fails i will never see another woman have a viable shot at the White House in my lifetime.

    • Posted By: kiske @ 02/12/2008 1:51:22 PM

      heyyyy, i just would like to ask you this? How do you know that she is a devisive figure and will spur opposition for no other reason than she is Clinton Redux? can you give me some example? for how long do you know Hillary? d id you have buisneess with her? please, tell me, give me some example.
      It is clear taht you are one of those who are feeding themselves only for what they hear from the media, but nothing else. for people like you is why the media has so much power, because you are repeting what the media (white men) said, but no basis for your statement. that said a lot about your and your poor personality regarding making judgement.

    • Posted By: perci m @ 02/12/2008 12:43:10 PM

      Your fear is self made, whereas, who cares. You almost wanna say, Americans is that stupid like you. We got more brain than you do. There are more bad U.S. President than suppose to be President Hillary.
      Why not give this evil a chance? She can't be as evil as you?

  • Posted By: drldc @ 02/12/2008 1:50:54 PM

    A test for thought crime! How clever. Aren't we fortunate?

    Leave it to the fringes (on the left and right) to enourage Orwellan tactics in the pursuit of Ideal human behavior. Of course, each fringe would have their own grand vision of the Ideal.

  • Posted By: THEWHITERICAN @ 02/12/2008 1:45:13 PM

    Bad example. I am also prejudice against people that may steal from me, or cause me harm. Are not some drug addicts in this group, possibly? And, people aren't BORN drug addicts. They inflict this upon themselves. I am biased against smokers. They work less, cause my insurance rates to go up. Does all this make me racist? Come on. We need to perfom more dilligent studies. And I am Hispanic, but agree that we should ALL speak English. If I wanted to succeed in Mexico, could I do so speaking only English? Good luck. That is why my people, as a whole, are in some of the lowest financial demographics in the nation. Does this thinking show me as a subconcious racist? Guess so.

  • Posted By: Rev21:4 @ 02/12/2008 11:44:28 AM

    I think it's important, too, if we're going to talk about "racism" to look at it honestly from both sides. Martin Luther King said, "It's NOT about the colord or the skin but the content of your character." I had a falling out with a friend who happens to be African American when I told her about Obama's stance on abortion. She's a Christian and I assumed (stupidly...) that he's being for abortion would seal the deal for her to NOT vote for him. Instead, she turned on me with hatred and accused me of being racist! In other words, the color of his skin was MORE IMPORTANT than standing for Godly values that true Bible believing Christians do. And who's the racist?

    • Posted By: Ellison DC @ 02/12/2008 1:44:14 PM

      Please don't butcher the legacy of Dr. King by selectively quoting 11 words out of context which conform to a Cons POV Dr. King fought his whole life against. Stop it conservatives, stop it!!!

      Also, I don't blame your friend. Your condescending/theocratic viewpoint would turn me off too. Exactly where in the Bible does it say that abortion is wrong? Who gave you the right to judge exactly the "values true Bible believing Christians" should ascribe to? Also, doesn't Jesus of Nazareth instruct us to "turn the other cheek"? Would Jesus be for war? Would Jesus approve of massive and growing poverty rates around the world? What about the parable of Dives that Jesus taught?

      Exactly who is mistaken here? I doubt it is your former friend, if your story is indeed true.

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