Wrong Paul

Wrong Newsweek.

Cancel my subscription.

Oh wait, I don't subscribe to Newsweek, nor would I.

Hey Newsweek, and Time, and all the other MSM rags: Are your PAID subscriptions going up, or down?

Hahaha, very good Mr. Miller. Are you the one who is throwing fear propaghanda around so liberally, that terrorists are starting forest fires? =

From the American Farm Bureau Website- Sounds like a conspiracy theory to me....

"Newsweek magazine said the terrorists had changed the debate on suburban sprawl with a dangerous new tactic - arson. Eco-terrorism is a serious matter that's not going away, according to Joe Miller, co-author of a book about environmental extremism, "Eco-Terrorism & Eco-Extremism against Agriculture."

We are done listening to you -- it's over and you don't know it. Soon you and your propagandist ilk will be out of a job. RON PAUL FOR PRESIDENT! P.S. It was a wanker propaganda piece like yours that attempted to smear Ron Paul that led me to join his campaign at the last minute and Ron Paul won our precinct -- keep up the great work of turning off Americans to propaganda and ON to the truth Ron Paul speaks.

"We were unable to document Reagan's endorsement of Paul. When we asked the Paul campaign for documentation, a spokesperson told us that the campaign was "a little more focused on positive things." The Paul campaign did not provide the Times with a date for the quotation in 1996, either."

Mr. Miller, would you please provide us with documentation backing up all of your statements, please?
Would you also please cite references to substantiate your comments so that your readers may see all of this information in context.
Wikipedia requires all references to be cited in order to be considered factual. I'm surprised that a major news site would have lower standards for the quality of their journalists articles than an online "encyclopedia" has for articles written by the general public.

It's quite difficult to prove the validity of these accusations without knowing where you are getting your supposed facts from.

Hahaha, very good Mr. Miller. Are you the one who is throwing fear propaghanda around so liberally, that terrorists are starting forest fires? =

From the American Farm Bureau Website- Sounds like a conspiracy theory to me....

"Newsweek magazine said the terrorists had changed the debate on suburban sprawl with a dangerous new tactic - arson. Eco-terrorism is a serious matter that's not going away, according to Joe Miller, co-author of a book about environmental extremism, "Eco-Terrorism & Eco-Extremism against Agriculture."

Mr. Miller,

Regarding the fact-checking in your article "Wrong Paul," I might offer the following for your consideration.

A) Contrary to your claim that a 3T Federal budget will not be exceeded until FY2008, David Walker and the GAO have reported a 3T FY exceedance since 2005.

B) Your allegations that the "NAFTA superhighway" is something of a misnomer and/or myth are interesting given that there is ample evidence to the contrary. I needn't bore the reader, as a small amount of web research will attest (check Alberta Province).

C) RP supported RR in '76 (one of only four Cong. Rep. to do so). RR endorsed and campaigned for RP in '78. These facts, as well as the RR quote you give are, again, easily verifiable. The fact that RP ultimately became disillusioned with RR's eventual fiscal irresponsibility (with Congressional complicity) is beside the point. Who would not tout RR's early support in pursuit of a COngressional and/or Presidential race?

Cheers,

Dr. John H. Huckans
Centre County, PA

Wow. You would not think that a canidate who is in last place would be such a threat to your comfort zone to cause you to even write an article so full of hate.

I sincerely hope that in ten years, you will be able to look back on your article and find yourself correct.

I really, honestly, and truly hope that one day you don't pull your head out of the sand and find yourself with a couple of Ameros in your pocket and realize that you contributed to laughing at and slandering at the person who was trying to warn everyone that our future, our hope, and our nation was being taken from us.

Is Ron Paul correct? I don't know. I get most of my news from people like you. I would have said that he probably wasn't correct until I read your article.

If Ron Paul's beliefs were unfounded, then they would have been ignored and tossed off. Since you wrote so negatively and strongly against one person, it does make me wonder what you are hiding.

By the way, is this the non biased journalism that you are suppose to be exercising? Is all of Newsweek this biased that they try to sway people and force their views on the readers?

I will think twice now about how truthful your media is.

Why is it, as you say, "We've given his statements little attention until now."? Explain that. I think you have a great deal of explaining to do on that topic.

And when you finally do give Ron Paul some attention, you choose to start with "But here we look at some of his more outlandish claims."

Why didn't you first start with Ron Paul related topics like these:
1. We borrow so much money from China that it threatens our national defense.
2. We print so much money, that inflation is eroding our middle class as forcing greater numbers of people into poverty.
3. Our national debt has skyrocketed in 8 years from $2 Trillion to $9 Trillion.
4. Almost 9% of our federal spending gets consumed just servicing the interest on our debt.
5. We now have to borrow $2 Billion a day from foreign countries.
6. We spend almost $650 Billion more than the federal government takes in each year now.


Please explain, I want to know.

Why is it, as you say, "We've given his statements little attention until now."? Explain that. I think you have a great deal of explaining to do on that topic.

And when you finally do give Ron Paul some attention, you choose to start with "But here we look at some of his more outlandish claims."

Why didn't you first start with Ron Paul related topics like these:
1. We borrow so much money from China that it threatens our national defense.
2. We print so much money, that inflation is eroding our middle class as forcing greater numbers of people into poverty.
3. Our national debt has skyrocketed in 8 years from $2 Trillion to $9 Trillion.
4. Almost 9% of our federal spending gets consumed just servicing the interest on our debt.
5. We now have to borrow $2 Billion a day from foreign countries.
6. We spend almost $650 Billion more than the federal government takes in each year now.


Please explain, I want to know.

"We were unable to document Reagan's endorsement of Paul. When we asked the Paul campaign for documentation, a spokesperson told us that the campaign was "a little more focused on positive things." The Paul campaign did not provide the Times with a date for the quotation in 1996, either."

Mr. Miller, would you please provide us with documentation backing up all of your statements, please?
Would you also please cite references to substantiate your comments so that your readers may see all of this information in context.
Wikipedia requires all references to be cited in order to be considered factual. I'm surprised that a major news site would have lower standards for the quality of their journalists articles than an online "encyclopedia" has for articles written by the general public.

It's quite difficult to prove the validity of these accusations without knowing where you are getting your supposed facts from.

Regarding your Fact-checking in "Wrong Paul" (cute), I have some facts for Newsweak (sic):

A) Contrary to your claim that a 3T Federal budget is now being exceeded for the first time, David Walker and the GAO report an exceedance at leat since 2005.
B) Your allegations that the NAFTA is something of a misnomer and/or myth are ludicrous. There is ample evidence to the contrary. I needn't bore the reader...just do a small amount of websearching (check Alberta).
C) RP supported RR in 76 (one of only four Cong Rep). RR endorsed and campaigned for RP in 78. This, as well as the RR quote are, again, easily verifiable. The fact that RP ultimately became disillusioned with RR's fiscal irresponsibility is beside the point. Who wouldn't tout RR's early support?

Cheers,
Dr. John H. Huckans

How do we know you're not just swallowing government propaganda. Dr. Paul, as a congressmen, has far more access to government documents than you do. Maybe he knows more than you know. Why did you not go to doctor Paul himself and ask him to explain things that you didn't understand. This is nothing more than a poorly-conceived hatchet job. I'm assuming that if an establishment magazine like Newsweek, with all of its huge, corporate, multinational sponsors, feels Ron Paul is worth attacking, then he must be doing something right.

Ron Paul is the only politician to bring honesty, integrity, and authenticity to the presidential campaign. All of the others, including Obama, are shills for the corrupt political establishment.

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I hope you did not waste any ink printing this, as you come off as an angry third grader. It is my understanding that Paul has not claimed any conspiracies. The SPP, as you pointed out is real, he has said they are not conspiracies as you have pointed out.

I suppose the off budget items of the wars in Iraq and Afganistan, also do not count, where they total close to $400 million plus benefits for the injured.

It is unfortunate that a news organization could not actually take an in depth look at his proposed policies, which draw a lot os supporters who have no desire to discuss the "conspiracy" issues. His views on personal property rights helping to encourage alternative energy, his views that the secret service/CIA helping to overthrow the Iranian government in 1952 and support of Osama, or Sadam Hussien were part of the causes of others to attack us.

I feel sorry for our country, that true debate can not happen, we had a great show of Mitt and McCain squabbling over junk when we could have spoke of the possibility of our foreign policy of protecting corporate interests causing the problem.

Peace be with you and I hope you enjoyed slandering a good man.

It's never too late to open your eyes Mr. Miller and embrace the hope that is embodied in the Constitution of the United States of America. Perhaps it's the nature of being a journalist, one who is constantly exposed to the darkest of human natures, one who is consistently proven correct about the depravity of men, that it is so easy to not only fall victim to cynicism, but to seek it out. To seek out the darkest corners to prove once again that there is no integrity in the world, that all men are shameless profiteers and every man has a price. But, what do you do when you find a man that the worst you can find is 'he thinks NAFTA is a threat'? Or, that he called $600 billion dollars one trillion dollars in a debate. In the absence of greater scandal, you turn to name-calling and derisive labels to what end? How much will what you cite in this article matter when you don't have a job and you can't afford to eat or pay for your families medical care?

None of the candidates, save for Ron Paul, cares a whit about your liberty, your freedom from oppression, or your right to live your life as you see fit as long as you do no harm to others. You are but cattle to them, and like cattle, I fear you will be at the slaughterhouse gates before you even realize you begged to be put in the line in the first place.

"All laws which are repugnant to the Constitution are null and void."
--- Marbury vs. Madison, 5 US (2Cranch) 137, 174, 176, (1803)

We are all enamored of a history which has been a beacon of hope to the world. Please don't let it go without a fight.

I wonder how much you will care about the article you wrote here after our dollar collapses. I wonder how long, if ever, it will take for you and your ilk to realize that the professional politicians you are so happy to fawn over are all cut from the same cloth. They all stump on emotional and divisive issues of little real value to the workings of the Federal government in order to create divisiveness amongst the people. At their core, they all hold the same philosophy: It's appropriate to force to people to do things against their will, as long as there is a group consensus or apathy, or better yet...both.

I fear that when our economy finally does succumb to the natural and predictable consequences of fiat currency and deficit spending we, as a nation, are all too well primed to accept the promises and charms of the oldest of maladies to humankind, the tyrannical despot. That in our collective ignorance of the roots of liberty in this country, it's implications for us all today and the embodiment of those principles in our Constitution, we have all lost sight of what it really means to be an American.

How will you feel when you finally realize that you were instrumental in the birth of that tyranny? That your cynicism and fear helped perpetuate and accelerate our demise. What amends will you make to your fellow countrymen when you finally understand that you've been lied to and that you took the power of your voice, in a national forum and used it to belittle and deride the one guy who's actually fighting for your freedom. You who sit in an extraordinary seat of power would choose cronyism over integrity and a paycheck over the value of liberty. Are you so far from hope that you can't even see it when it's right in front of you?

"None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free."
~Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

Joe, I give you credit for writing a very detailed and persuasive article, but I still do not consider my support of Ron Paul to be misguided. I do not believe he is delusional about the trend toward an economic collaboration in North America similar to the EU. I believe there is still a fluid evaluation being made of the successes and failures of the EU being made, not to mention a lot of cultural and political fences to mend before that will be possible. And yes, a lot of fiscal conservatives were dissatisfied with many of the shortcomings of the Reagan administration. But as is the case with our own democratic republic, it ain't perfect, but it's a lot better than anything else in the world, so if Paul wants to align himself more with Reagan's governing philosophy, I cannot complain. Paul is still the straightest shooter running, and although not the most eloquent speaker his personification of classic Republican principles - which happen to be libertarian - still appeal to me far above the usual sloganeering and pandering by any of the other candidates.

Joe Miller, where can I sign up for a "reporting and writing" position. I have absolutely NO experience and can not verify ALL data with the best of em', you included. I am surprised at how much research you DID NOT DO. Oh my! This is sickening. Joe, next time - try going to other sources than the government agencies or mouthpieces for your "facts".

I can't even get get past the first page of your article.

Here's some info from the Council on Foreign Relation's website about creating a "North American Community" (http://www.cfr.org/publication/8102/). There are a lot of people working on this. It's not a secret conspiracy and Ron Paul never claimed it was secret. It's out in the open. It's not clear why so many people deny it though.

Here's an article (http://www.motherjones.com/commentary/tomdispatch/2008/01/going-bankrupt.html) that provides details on how we will spend $1 trillion on our foreign policy in 2008.


Paul disassociated himself from Reagan in 1988 because Reagan failed to live up to the principles upon which he was elected. He increased spending, taxes, and debt. This was not part of the platform on which Reagan was elected and Ron Paul supported.

The movement that Dr. Paul has started is not going to be stopped. It's so much bigger than one candidate and one election. Liberty and freedom are on the march. As George Washington said, "Liberty, when it begins to take root, is a plant of rapid growth." This is only the beginning.