Perfect Game

« Return to Article

Discuss

Member Comments

  • Posted By: Lili Floyd @ 02/13/2008 6:06:22 PM

    The president doesn't run the country alone. Obama would rely on a team of brilliant people in key positions to advise him. Hillary would rely on Bill.

    • Posted By: jmartincali @ 02/13/2008 6:33:45 PM

      okay, what kind of comparison is this? a dumb one.
      Obama will have his cabinet and advisors... Hillary will have her cabinet and advisors + Bill... Obama < Hillay or Hillary MORE than Obama... yeah MORE is better in this case!

  • Posted By: isondemuse @ 02/13/2008 6:33:20 PM

    The Amorphous 'change' premise, so lame and amateurish a political line, who would have thought it's the most effective bait for any sensible, thinking person. But, then, we are talking about group behavior. I guess the simple premise???s chameleon quality enables it to morph into whatever the individual listener's yearns for. Add to it some cues about inequality/injustice between whatever different social groups, and 'voila!' you have a bunch of people jumping up and down, chanting and ready for a revolution. Revolution for what? More importantly, How? They don't know; they're completely mesmerized the part of 'change' specific to themselves and overcome by the atmosphere. Once hysteria is sparked, it spreads like wild fire.
    That's the latest, most powerful political strategy - not just tapping into people's emotions through their needs, but their emotional needs. Remember the exit polls for Bush's last election showed that 'moral values' were the most important issue. Stopping abortions and gay marriage was more important than the death of thousands in a war or anything else to them. So, you either invoke the fanatics or invoke the fanatic in people, because intense emotion is the one that keeps people standing determined in line to vote. Clinton needs to catch up on this tactic.

  • Posted By: mac613 @ 02/13/2008 6:33:16 PM

    a) The Clintons are from Arkansas, not Alabama.
    b) Bill Clinton was basically raised by a single mom in a low-income bracket, a far cry from a silver spoon in his mouth.
    c) If you want to tell people to 'wake up' re: Hillary Clinton's "experiance" from the "beggening" you might want to be able to spell those words.
    d) As a physician from SC (and having heard Hillary speak on our health care crisis as far back as 15 years ago), I can tell you that her interest in fixing our health care system woes is genuine and long-standing. She is committed and persistent, and that is what will spell success

  • Posted By: Kafemean @ 02/13/2008 6:31:53 PM

    Please!

  • Posted By: Homero @ 02/13/2008 6:20:21 PM

    I have been in the Hillary camp up until last night. I watched a video from 15 years ago on YouTube called "Hillary does NOT want you to see these Chronicles". It is like a 60 Minutes expose... murders of witnesses, drug smuggling, convicted drug dealer Don Tyson (of frozen chicken fame) and his involvement with the Clintons, a doctor who treated Bill's cocaine nose, dirty money passed through Hillary's Rose Bank, and on & on. I am stunned and dazed. I want to vote for Hillary,...well , I'm in a mini funk. I realize that the film was most likely put together by far right conservatists, but it is just so overwhelming. Beyond the propaganda factor, there are some chilling facts! Just go watch it, see what you make of it. It sure throws a dark spectre over the Clintons.

    • Posted By: Wa Dem @ 02/13/2008 6:30:58 PM

      What, are you really that gullible? This is clearly a hit piece. In fact I really doubt the veracity of your claim to have ever supported Hillary. More likely your purpose is the advertise the video. Do you really expect anyone to believe this baloney? For shame, can you point to one reputable source for any of the information included in the video? Who produced it I Hate Hillary.com, what's your cut?

    • Posted By: steven7432 @ 02/13/2008 6:27:16 PM

      you are full of bull! you watch too many TV programs like Prison Break.

  • Posted By: Justfgivemethefacts @ 02/13/2008 6:22:59 PM

    All I would like to say is who ever said Obama did not pledge allegiance to the Flag better look at the pictures. It shows him standing facing the flag and his hand over his heart !!!!!

    • Posted By: kikii2 @ 02/13/2008 6:28:47 PM

      I am not sure what picture you are seeing but the picture I see his is not, his hands are down in front of him and he does not not look like he is saying anything at all. So I would like to see something different if you have it .

  • Posted By: duh_driver @ 02/13/2008 6:27:56 PM

    Hey, may the best liar win. It doesnt matter if your black or white, man or woman. As all past Presidents have done, once in office they find that they cannot change anything the congress doesnt want changed. To make all these bold faced lies in the first place is ludicrous. Obama cannot change it, Clinton cannot change it. The American people, no matter who they vote for or try to cut down, CANNOT change anything. Religion cannot change anything, beliefs cannot change anything. Why would any of you vote for the people that are running for President today? They cannot even get along in running there campaigns, let alone the country. Obama cries foul, Clinton cries foul, or have they? Stop listening to the media and watch some of the debates yourselves. Dont just take your morning news paper and give it credence. I've been watching the debates and if anyone else did they'd see that there is a lot of lying going on.

  • Posted By: mjno @ 02/13/2008 6:27:46 PM

    I agree with OBAMA stealing all of Hillary's campaign promises and just presenting them as "change" and "hope" and UTOPIA. But what saddens me is the young males who post here. They are sexist which some people thnk is okay as long as they aren't racist. But, I believe sexism, racism, ageism are equally ingrained. It is sad to say that our great country accepts blatent sexism. This must end. So stop posting sexist statements.

  • Posted By: fanten30 @ 02/13/2008 5:36:41 PM

    Hillary Clinto will make out like a diamond who holds perfection and a beautiful heart of love. She is a very empathetic lady who will hold strong by us no matter what form of natural disater or time of need may be for the community of all areas of life this country holds.

    • Posted By: NavyVet22yrs @ 02/13/2008 6:25:40 PM

      I have extra pair of glasses if you would like to borrow them. Hillary a diamond? More like a paste imitation of a diamond. She's as fake as those emails from Africa looking for suckers (like you) to be their partner in liquidating millions of dollars "legally". She's just as corrupt as Bill was - and still is. Her only interest is power, making history, and power. Open your eyes and look at her history, her inability to get things done, her posturing for publicity, and her lies. WAKE UP!

  • Posted By: Rinnovato @ 02/13/2008 6:10:10 PM

    CONTINUED
    Obama???s comprehensive agenda to restore fairness and balance to the economy and restore our prosperity includes:

    · A Secure Retirement ??? Obama will require employers to enroll every worker in a direct deposit retirement account that places a small percentage of each paycheck into savings. Workers would be able to retain this account even if they change jobs, and the federal government will match the savings for working families.

    · A Credit Card Bill of Rights ??? Obama will institute a five-star rating system to inform consumers about the level of risk involved in every credit card and establish a Credit Card Bill of Rights that will ban unilateral changes to a credit card agreement; ban rate changes to debt that???s already incurred; and ban interest on fees.

    · Reforming Bankruptcy Laws ??? Obama will reform bankruptcy laws to make sure that those who can demonstrate they went bankrupt because of medical expenses can relieve their debt and get back on their feet.

    · Rebuilding our Infrastructure ??? Obama would create a National Infrastructure Reinvestment Bank that will invest $60 billion over ten years. This investment generate nearly two million new jobs ??? many of them in the construction industry that???s been hard hit by this housing crisis.

    · Trade that Works for Workers ??? Obama will end tax breaks for companies who ship jobs overseas and give breaks to companies who create good jobs with decent wages here in America.

    · Millions of New Green Jobs -- Obama???s energy plan will invest $150 billion over ten years to establish a green energy sector that will create millions of new jobs over the next two decades ??? jobs that pay well and can???t be outsourced. He will also provide funding to help manufacturers convert to green technology and help workers learn the skills they need for these jobs.

    Barack Obama has been fighting for the needs of working Americans for over twenty-five years. He began his career in the shadow of a closed steel mill on the South Side of Chicago, where he brought a community together to provide job training to the jobless and set up after school programs for children. In Illinois, he brought Democrats and Republicans together to expand health insurance for 150,000 children and parents, and he led the fight to provide $100 million in tax relief for working families and the working poor.

    • Posted By: osteoguy @ 02/13/2008 6:25:31 PM

      I have news for you...the President cannot "institute" anything. That requires passing laws, and that's the job of Congress. If you really think these things will work and not kill the economy, then you need to leave Obama where he is.

  • Posted By: Politics08 @ 02/13/2008 5:45:50 PM

    Hillary Clinton is the way to go. Where did Obama's nationality stand out. He is not a national born American. Who is to say that once he gets his foot in the door than the terrorist will be there. Look at everything that Hillary has done thus far with charities and what not. She should be our future, she cares about the working class not making the rich richer and the poor poorer. We need someone in there working for us as a nation, If you want a recession then I guess Obama is the way to go. I have never heard of Obama until now; the name speaks for itself. I don't know about the rest of you but, I work hard for my money and the only ones who seem to get ahead are the rich. Vote Hillary Clinton, that is the only way to go!!!!!!!!!!!

    • Posted By: ShameonUS @ 02/13/2008 6:23:50 PM

      If you want to talk about terrorists, you need to read the books by Barbara Olson "Hell to Pay' and the Final Days" and learn just what ties Hillary Clinton has to the terrorists. You will shiver.

    • Posted By: osteoguy @ 02/13/2008 5:52:23 PM

      There are other, more pleasant ways to go: Cyanide, shotgun blast to the face, punching a lion in the mouth, slicing your jugular with a butterknife, etc.

    • Posted By: se7ennatnarmy @ 02/13/2008 5:51:05 PM

      I hate to break it to you, but if he wasn't a natural born American he couldn't be running for President. Last time I checked, Hawaii was apart of the US... As for the Obama comment, yet another example of a close minded American who'll label anyone with a name like that a "terrorist" or "terrorist supporter".

  • Posted By: azimuthllc @ 02/13/2008 6:22:49 PM

    All these people who think Obama is so great, I ask of you, have you ever researched his background? If not, I suggest that you do. I know that I don't want any potential terriost to be commander in chief of America. A man who refuses to say the pledge of allegience and won't honor our flag is not an American. He isn't a christian and remember what Ben Ladin said. America will be attacked from within. What better way than to elect someone to the highest office in the country.

  • Posted By: Rinnovato @ 02/13/2008 6:09:19 PM

    Obama???s comprehensive agenda to restore fairness and balance to the economy and restore our prosperity includes:

    · Protecting Homeowners: Obama has proposed a fund to offer direct relief to victims of mortgage fraud and would ease the burden on struggling homeowners by offering a tax credit to low- and middle-income Americans that would cover ten percent of their mortgage interest payment every year.

    · Combating Fraud: Obama would institute tough new penalties for those who commit mortgage fraud, and create a uniform HOME SCORE that would allow consumers to compare various mortgage products so that they can determine which mortgage best fits their needs and financial situation.

    · Middle-Class Tax Cut ??? Obama is the only candidate to propose a middle-class tax cut that will provide relief to 95% of working Americans -- $1,000 per working family. He???ll also eliminate income taxes for any senior making less than $50,000.

    · Affordable Health Care ??? Obama???s universal health care plan cuts costs more than any other plan in this race ??? it will save the typical family up to $2500 on their premiums.

    · Making College Affordable ??? Obama will provide the middle class a fully refundable tax credit worth $4,000 for tuition and fees every year, which would cover two-thirds of the tuition at the average public college or university.

    · Easing the Burden on Working Families ??? For mothers and fathers who are juggling work and parenting, Obama will expand the child care tax credit for people earning less than $50,000 a year, and he???ll double spending on quality afterschool programs. He will also expand the Family Medical Leave Act to include more businesses and millions more workers; and change a system that???s stacked against working parents by requiring every employer to provide seven paid sick days a year, so that they can be home with their child if they are sick.

    • Posted By: osteoguy @ 02/13/2008 6:20:40 PM

      Mortgage fraud? Last time I checked, lending money to stupid people who can't afford the loan wasn't FRAUD, just bad business practice. I see that you're in favor of "protecting" people from their own bad decisions, though. That's a standard Democratic practice, at least. My question, however, if you're giving back $1000 per family, or approximately 100 BILLION dollars, and since the rich minority hire professionals to make sure they don't have to pay taxes under a "tax increase for the rich," where is that money going to come from? Where are the TRILLIONS of dollars for the "universal" (read SOCIALIST) health care going to come from? Where are all these $4000 educational tax credits going to come from?

  • Posted By: mjno @ 02/13/2008 5:57:32 PM

    His great oratory skills will end wars!?!??! HELP us, please. Why don't you pretend he has a horrible, cracky voice...what would his message be then. Think about it long and hard. My neighbor has a great speaking voice, should I get him to run. By the way, most of OBAMA's lines are quotes from great people like Alice Walker.

    Don't drink the kool aid Wisconsin.

    • Posted By: Olufemi @ 02/13/2008 6:19:56 PM

      Don't underestimate the importance of vision and leadership in a president. Obama has provided as much detail on policy positions as Hillary. Any discerning person knows you can only gloss over policy positions in a campaign speech on the stump. Please visit his website to study his positions? Remember, we need a president with wisdom, vision and courage to change the game, instead of just make marginal changes around its edges. After all, if Guiliani is the best person for homeland security, then Obama will be glad to appoint him to that job. If Hillary truly is the best person to bring us healthcare reform , then sure, Obama is willing to consider her for the position. But policy wonk does not a leader make - it is the rare person with the courage, wisdom, humilty and ability to bring disparate peoples and opinions together to a major cause that we should be looking for. Hillary spouts her years of experience and how she intends to convert us to renewable energy etc. Other than deficits going down and unemployment going up (thanks to a stock market bubble), how did the Clinton administration change America? We found ourselves quickly back where we were after Bush took office. That's a sure sign the Clintons did not fundamentally change the country, and that's why it was easy for Bush and the Republicans to put us right back where we were and worse. My point is, don't vote for someone who MAY reduce deficits and unemployment during the 4 yrs or 8 yrs they are in office, or make consmetic changes. Look for someone who, because he/she is less steeped in the game, more inspirational, more visionary, less indebted to lobbyists, and more sensitive to the community and world around him is more likely to FUNDAMENTALLY TRANSFORM our country, our politics and our priorities. A good sign that Obama is able - he did it in Illinois, and he has already changed political discourse in this campaign. Even the Clintons have had to be more civil that they would be against any other candidate, white or black. And, the spitballs the Reublicans will put out in the general election will not stick because, thanks to Barack, Americans are wising up in their discernment of what is important in choosing a leader, what we should be looking for as a people etc. Ironically, so many people, following the Republican song book, are assuming we'll be settling for rhetoric when we chose Obama. It's the essence of settling, lowering the bar, remaining hopeless, succumbing to cynicsm, and endorsing "the game" when we suggest that only those who have put us where we are today, or, having had their opportunities, failed to lead us to a better place, are the ones we should be putting in the white house. What a pathetic statement about the collective wisdom and political sophistication of the electorate. There is a reason most highly educated people support Obama, even though he's more likely to tax them more than Hillary or McCain would. Think about that . . .

  • Posted By: r.helms @ 02/13/2008 6:17:24 PM

    Hey myst, I hope you have to write in your choice for president. sp

  • Posted By: ghayhurst @ 02/13/2008 5:50:18 PM

    I believe that Obama is a Muslim. If not he is a sympathizer of the Musilms. I shudder when I see our youth and many others blindly suporting this man. I hope when it gets down to the final that the GOP brings out his Musliom ways. (If it walks like a Duck and Quacks like a Duck it's probably a Duck.)

    • Posted By: NewLeadership08 @ 02/13/2008 5:56:47 PM

      And you are hee-hawing now, so I guess that makes you an ass?

      • Posted By: worldcitizen216 @ 02/13/2008 6:16:20 PM

        good for you! your reply to that ignorant comment was great! Has that person been hiding under a rock?! or perhaps he/she just does not read...
        Obama has had to answer that question too many times and it is clear in his book and from his life history--he is a Christian and his father was a self-proclaimed atheist. Yes, there were Muslims in his (paternal)ancestry, but so what?? Does that make him ineligible to be an American or to be patriotic or to run for President? Let's spend our time on the real (and realistic) issues...

    • Posted By: AuthenticSpirit @ 02/13/2008 5:54:44 PM

      you are truly IGNORANT

  • Posted By: hope-3 @ 02/13/2008 6:15:14 PM

    I won't get into the lack of class issue but yes ,I see it to.what's troubling is her total reliance on two or three states:texas-ohio-pa.Bill /hillary and all of their friends should step into a timemachine and join the rest of in the 21th century.It's not that bad of a place?

  • Posted By: mystical_spirit @ 02/13/2008 6:14:12 PM

    I am a registered republican, However I am considering a change to Democrat, It is time for new blood to go into office, out with the old and in with the new, Barack, is the best choice out there. If Hillary wins, it will be the same ol crap as always with more scandels from her name, She has shown nothing for experiance,furtherexcept a failed health care bill, and a boughten senate seat in a state that the Clintons werent even from, makes you wonder why didnt she run in Alabama where they were from?
    I read in here about someone calling Obama a spoiled rich kid, yet what was Bill? His family got him in office from the beggening, and this was a draft dodger at that, C'mon people wake up, with the old blood running this country, we will sink further, and further into a hole thaqt will take many years to pull out of.

  • Posted By: r.helms @ 02/13/2008 6:11:56 PM

    Let's not forget that President Kennedy was getting BJ's in the WhiteHouse. Some of our best presidents were unfaithful to their wives but faithful to their country.

Reply

Report Abuse

Enter comments if any for reporting abuse