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  • Posted By: sransom @ 02/13/2008 5:00:58 PM

    First of all the reason why so many people are not supporting Clinton is that she's continuing to flip flop on the issues that were part of her weakness in the previous debates. She goes with the flow of the poll and not her own voice. In my opinion she's lost her voice because she is now using the same rhetoric that is in Obama's campaigns.

    Please just listen to her stump speeches and compare the two. She has taken Obama's vision and has tried to use it as her own.

    Why is it in one of the debates she could not answer decisively if she could give an estimate time of troop pull out? She was the only one who could not answer and now all of a sudden out of the blue she has decided that 60 days was the magic number!

    Why is she no longer calling her health care plan a mandate like she initially did? Because she realized that the word mandate worried a lot of her supporters.

    My main problem with Senator Clinton is that instead of keeping her real voice in this election she has compromised herself to try and win votes. Obama has stuck with his vision and he has not wavered.

    Look at this article regarding Hillary's immigration flip flop for those of you who are attacking Obama for his U.S. Senatorial voting record and his state record:

    "2008 presidential hopeful Hillary Clinton complained Wednesday that some Republicans want to impose a "police state" to deal with illegal immigration, arguing instead that illegals should be allowed to earn their U.S. citizenship.

    But just three short years ago, Mrs. Clinton took a different tack, boasting that she was "adamantly against" foreigners who enter the country illegally and saying that the U.S. should consider imposing a national ID card system.

    "I am, you know, adamantly against illegal immigrants," Clinton said in a Feb. 2003 radio interview.

    Clinton said the U.S. "might have to move toward an ID system even for citizens" in order to combat illegal border crossings, or implement "at least a visa ID, some kind of an entry and exit ID."

    As of Wednesday, however, the former first lady's immigration policy had clearly evolved.

    http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2006/3/9/102635.shtml

    I want someone who's going to stand up for the people in the White House and I'm sorry, based on her experience I don't believe she will do that. She's a camelion and changes like the wind blows.

  • Posted By: Nanotech @ 02/13/2008 5:00:36 PM

    So what does Experience count for? Isn't Experience suppose to be the guide to making the right decisions? With all of Hillary's experience she still made the wrong ones. Obama despite his lack of so called "experience" has made the right call whereas Hillary with her years of "experience" failed miserably. He has had the right Judgement from day one which in my book, beats out experience anyday. What does it matter how much experience you have if in the end you're still making the same mistakes?

  • Posted By: Villager @ 02/13/2008 5:00:17 PM

    This election/campaign or whatever you may call it is not a Hilary vs Obama one;
    very sorry to say is a racial race;
    Just see how the votes came in for Obama and how in multitudes they turned out for him;
    Very sad to see the sort of race that we see in many so called independent democrat countries:(

  • Posted By: JoeMB @ 02/13/2008 5:00:11 PM

    Legislative Experience:
    Senator Clinton has served only 6yrs and another year campaigning. She has authored and passed into law 20 pieces of legislation. These bills can be found on the website of the Library of Congress (www.thomas.loc.gov).
    1. Establish the Kate Mullany National Historic Site.
    2. Support the goals and ideals of Better Hearing and Speech Month.
    3. Recognize the Ellis Island Medal of Honor.
    4. Name courthouse after Thurgood Marshall.
    5. Name courthouse after James L. Watson.
    6. Name post office after Jonn A. O'Shea.
    7. Designate Aug. 7, 2003, as National Purple Heart Recognition Day.
    8. Support the goals and ideals of National Purple Heart Recognition Day.
    9. Honor the life and legacy of Alexander Hamilton on the bicentennial of his death.
    10. Congratulate the Syracuse Univ. Orange Men's Lacrosse Team on winning the championship.
    11. Congratulate the Le Moyne College Dolphins Men's Lacrosse Team on winning the championship.
    12. Establish the 225th Anniversary of the American Revolution Commemorative Program.
    13. Name post office after Sergeant Riayan A. Tejeda.
    14. Honor Shirley Chisholm for her service to the nation and express condolences on her death.
    15. Honor John J. Downing, Brian Fahey, and Harry Ford, firefighters who lost their lives on duty. Only five of Clinton's bills are, more substantive. 16. Extend period of unemployment assistance to victims of 9/11.
    17. Pay for city projects in response to 9/11
    18. Assist landmine victims in other countries.
    19. Assist family caregivers in accessing affordable respite care.
    20. Designate part of the National Forest System in Puerto Rico as protected in the wilderness preservation system.
    Sen. Obama's categorized list:
    During the first 8 eight years of his elected service he sponsored over 820 bills. He introduced:
    233 regarding healthcare reform,
    125 on poverty and public assistance,
    112 crime fighting bills,
    97 economic bills,
    60 human rights and anti-discrimination bills,
    21 ethics reform bills,
    15 gun control,
    6 veterans affairs and many others.
    In his first year in the U.S. Senate, he authored 152 bills and co-sponsored another 427. These included:
    1. The Coburn-Obama Government Transparency Act of 2006 (became law)
    2. The Lugar-Obama Nuclear Non-proliferation and Conventional Weapons Threat Reduction Act, (became law)
    3. The Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act, passed the Senate
    4. The 2007 Government Ethics Bill, (became law)
    5. The Protection Against Excessive Executive Compensation Bill, (In committee), and many more.

  • Posted By: braveheart619 @ 02/13/2008 4:59:31 PM

    to all you out there i dont think either ones going to do what they say they will for this country i see them hidding and turning this great country in to a coward state like clinton did before 9-11

  • Posted By: JoeMB @ 02/13/2008 4:59:22 PM

    Legislative Experience:
    Senator Clinton has served only 6yrs and another year campaigning. She has authored and passed into law 20 pieces of legislation. These bills can be found on the website of the Library of Congress (www.thomas.loc.gov).
    1. Establish the Kate Mullany National Historic Site.
    2. Support the goals and ideals of Better Hearing and Speech Month.
    3. Recognize the Ellis Island Medal of Honor.
    4. Name courthouse after Thurgood Marshall.
    5. Name courthouse after James L. Watson.
    6. Name post office after Jonn A. O'Shea.
    7. Designate Aug. 7, 2003, as National Purple Heart Recognition Day.
    8. Support the goals and ideals of National Purple Heart Recognition Day.
    9. Honor the life and legacy of Alexander Hamilton on the bicentennial of his death.
    10. Congratulate the Syracuse Univ. Orange Men's Lacrosse Team on winning the championship.
    11. Congratulate the Le Moyne College Dolphins Men's Lacrosse Team on winning the championship.
    12. Establish the 225th Anniversary of the American Revolution Commemorative Program.
    13. Name post office after Sergeant Riayan A. Tejeda.
    14. Honor Shirley Chisholm for her service to the nation and express condolences on her death.
    15. Honor John J. Downing, Brian Fahey, and Harry Ford, firefighters who lost their lives on duty. Only five of Clinton's bills are, more substantive. 16. Extend period of unemployment assistance to victims of 9/11.
    17. Pay for city projects in response to 9/11
    18. Assist landmine victims in other countries.
    19. Assist family caregivers in accessing affordable respite care.
    20. Designate part of the National Forest System in Puerto Rico as protected in the wilderness preservation system.
    Sen. Obama's categorized list:
    During the first 8 eight years of his elected service he sponsored over 820 bills. He introduced:
    233 regarding healthcare reform,
    125 on poverty and public assistance,
    112 crime fighting bills,
    97 economic bills,
    60 human rights and anti-discrimination bills,
    21 ethics reform bills,
    15 gun control,
    6 veterans affairs and many others.
    In his first year in the U.S. Senate, he authored 152 bills and co-sponsored another 427. These included:
    1. The Coburn-Obama Government Transparency Act of 2006 (became law)
    2. The Lugar-Obama Nuclear Non-proliferation and Conventional Weapons Threat Reduction Act, (became law)
    3. The Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act, passed the Senate
    4. The 2007 Government Ethics Bill, (became law)
    5. The Protection Against Excessive Executive Compensation Bill, (In committee), and many more.

  • Posted By: RobNew123 @ 02/13/2008 4:59:21 PM

    That is REDICULOUS! Barack Obama would be DESTROYING Hillary if he was white. Are you trying to say that all of a sudden, after hundreds of years of white males dominating the presidency, a black man all of a sudden has an edge because he is black? Idiocy comes to mind as a proper description of your reasoning, and I certainly hope there are not many like you in the voting populace.

  • Posted By: DAlnB @ 02/13/2008 4:57:54 PM

    Hillary has been a part of the Washington bunch for over 15 yeas; the same bunch that has almost destroyed our quality of life, our economy, and our good name throughout the world. We do not need her kind of experience sitting in the White House. Obama has been in Washington long enough to know and understand the ways of Washington but not long enough to have become a part of the long established Washington circus! Clinton has had 7+ years to introduce her ???many good ideas and opportunities for America???; why has she not already done so? She has been trying for 15 years to get health plan passed but has not been able to get democratic or republican support for it!

  • Posted By: braveheart619 @ 02/13/2008 4:57:52 PM

    i dont think either one of them are good at keeping their word as for the war lets get past that and on to more important things like the homeless here the abuised childern the batterewemon the abonduned babys .neith has said where they stand on ssi on health care and the loss of benifits.i think obama has a hidden thing for his run and you can see it in his face when hes asked the tough questions ..heck let bush stay in he cant do no worse then this too i wont vote for either one and if they win this great country of ours is in for a world of hurt another 9-11 will happen

  • Posted By: greygoose3 @ 02/13/2008 4:57:48 PM

    From an old woman who first voted in 1950, i am taken by Obamas politics of hope rather than the politics of fear. I'm looking forward to a president who can speak to the nation while a group of dedicated wonks work on his policies he has outlined to us. I have no illusions that everything he speaks of will come about but i can feel good about his trying..

  • Posted By: pooh496 @ 02/13/2008 4:57:16 PM

    Hillary is our Girl! She can come from behind and has proven it many times. A fact that you never talk about.

    Hillary '08

  • Posted By: RobNew123 @ 02/13/2008 4:57:00 PM

    That is REDICULOUS! Barack Obama would be DESTROYING Hillary if he was white. Are you trying to say that all of a sudden, after hundreds of years of white males dominating the presidency, a black man all of a sudden has an edge because he is black? Idiocy comes to mind as a proper description of your reasoning, and I certainly hope there are not many like you in the voting populace.

  • Posted By: RudyHuXXXtable @ 02/13/2008 4:56:54 PM

    @ HolyRoller: YOU are America's biggest threat: people who are so far up God's behind that you forget He said "Do unto others," "Love one another," "He who saves a single life" and, most importantly, "Thou shalt not kill." Stop hiding behind God and a bastardization of His word in order to justify violence, ignorance and fear mongering. Get your head out of the sand and read an enlightening book by someone other than a conservative talk-show host.

  • Posted By: warlance @ 02/13/2008 4:56:51 PM

    Hillary is a phony and is only in this for the money (show you tax return yo tax cheat) and for the noteriety. She doesn't care about people. Bad choice to have Hillary and Bill back in the white house. Both are proven liars and tried to steal from us when they left the white house before so they are proven thieves. Elect anyone besides Hillary

  • Posted By: JP5874 @ 02/13/2008 4:56:46 PM

    Hillary is done as this campaign for change keeps moving across Ameriaca, Obama will lead this country in a new direction that will benefit us all. As for the Islamist extremest they along with all the other people in the word that hate America will wake up to a new amerca whose time has come to take back this great nation and lead the world by example as we had 100 years ago. OBAMA WILL BE THE NEXT PRESIDENT

  • Posted By: my guy @ 02/13/2008 4:55:41 PM

    If Obama gets the nomination I will either vote for Mc Cain or for the first time not vote at all.
    The media has totally destroyed the voting process with their bias reporting. As for Obama
    I'm tired of hearing how he has the support of the black vote and the professional highly
    educated black and white men. Imagine what his policies will be. Let's see him take the
    attacks she has, the NAACP would make a hay day like they did about Johnson starting the
    Civil Rights movement and not their hero king.

  • Posted By: wilmababy @ 02/13/2008 4:55:17 PM

    justsayNOtoHILLARY!!!

  • Posted By: ELMER MCCARTY @ 02/13/2008 4:55:06 PM

    AMEN!!! HE OBAMA TALKS A GOOD TALK BUT MENTIONS NOTHING ON HOW HE WILL DO IT! HILLARY DOES HAVE THE EXPERIENCE AND THE TRACK RECORD TO PROVE IT!!! IT'S NO TIME FOR US TO GIVE ON THE JOB TRAINING TO A CANDIDATE THAT HAS NO EXPERIENCE. NO TIME TO TEST THE WATERS WITH OUR COUNTRY IN SUCH ECONOMIC RUIN AND THE NEEDLESS OIL WAR IN IRAQ! MAC / SAN JOSE, CA.

  • Posted By: Uglydawg7 @ 02/13/2008 4:54:59 PM

    I have never seen a politician "pose" the way Obama does. He's an acting his way across the country with the characters MLK, JFK, and (ironic enough) Bill Clinton. It comes off arrogant and insincere. God help us if he successfully acts his way into the oval office because once he's there, acting wont help him.

  • Posted By: wilmababy @ 02/13/2008 4:54:42 PM

    justsayNOtoHILLARY!!!

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