The Military vs. Berkeley

The Berkeley City councils anti-US Military agenda is nothing more than the continuing liberal Democratic Party's "loathing" (Bill Clintons words when he ran off to Oxford, England to avoid the draft) for our military that's been going on since these guys spat on our returning Soldiers, Sailors, and Marines when they were returning from the Viet Nam War. While they're now much older now, they have gained power on the city councils of America, in academia, and in the Democratic Party--controlled Main Stream Media and have indoctrinated our young impressionable teens with their anti- America and anti-US Military hatred. While they will never admit it and bluster about really being American patriots when someone mentions the obvious, they'll do exactly what the Berkeley and San Francisco City Council do to our military that they distain and hate with a passion every time.

Since when did public concensus direct American policies? Do we elect presidential candidates based on a popular vote? Governments do not act in the interests of popular concensus. As for soldiers, let's not be so naive. Our soldiers are not philosophers, or agents following some profound moral code. They are political tools. They do not question their leaders, they follow orders - obediently. Please don't rave about the horros visisted on the world by Muslim extremists while our government supports dictators in other parts of the world, South America for example. That said, it was the American government who originally armed those militant groups, when it suited our political agenda - you tool.

If the majority of the public was against the war, you would have caused a policy change by now. What you are is a vocal monority, that just makes noise. I have served this country for over 26 years, what have you done for your fellow American or done to protect the American liberities?
Having been to Cambodia, Lao, Malaisa, Singapore, Thailand, and will be in Vietnam this summer. I have seen how the average person lives under communist rule and how they can live under more democratic systems. Your like minded buddies, cut and ran during the 70's, and the people of Asia are still suffering the consequences.
Now 40 years later you want to turn your back while the Muslim extremist force their beliefs through out the middle east, North Africa, and Europe. Do you forget 911 and just how long do you think it will be before IED's start showing up in the US? How do you think you would fit into their society ? They have the same solution for infidels as the former Soviet Union did for all US Marine prisoners of war, they kill them.
Semper Fi, MSgt (Ret) AC Robertson,Jr

I served for over 26 years to help preserve the freedom of choice for the American people. Give the people of Berkely what they want, freedom of having to deal with the common American. Then exercise your freedom, Boycot the Berkely government and local businesses, void any federal contracts, stop all tourism, and refuse to employ anybody living there. Hit them in the only thing that they hold near and dear, their pocketbook.

I served for over 26 years so these people can enjoy their freedom of choice. They should be given what they want, freedom from having to deal with the common American. Employ your freedom of choice, 'Boycot the Berkely area,' refuse to do business with their local companies, void all federal contracts, stop any tourism, and do not employ anyone that lives in the area. Hit them in the only thing that they care about or understand, their pocket book.

So Tom Hayden says the targets of the Marine recruiters are too young and impressionable to be subjected to the pressures of military recruitment. Those recruits are older and more mature than he and his ilk were when they were demanding the nation change back in the 60s. Would you finally admit the folly of your youthful destruction of America???s moral compass Tom?

So Tom Hayden says the targets of the Marine recruiters are too young and impressionable to be subjected to the pressures of military recruitment. Those recruits are older and more mature than he and his ilk were when they were demanding the nation change back in the 60s. Would you finally admit the folly of your youthful destruction of America???s moral compass Tom?

Tom Hayden - who? Friend of Jane Fonda? Pretty irrelevant - Newseek trying to relive the 60's? Like when they perhaps had a voice. Berkely? also irrelevant to today except for the scourge of drug use on our society. I keep hoping to wake up one morning to hear tha CA felll into the ocean. Maybe tomorrow.

I was in the Navy for 10 years, during the Viet Nam war. I saw demonstrations such as this and heard the demonstrators referred to as "dirty, peaceniks, grubbies, and a few non mentionables". I see the same comments again. Take it from someone who saw it...the demonstrators were, for the MOST PART RIGHT. I respect and love my country but I am sick to see our good people continue to die for politics sake.

These Berkley peaceniks are truely ignorant--brainwashed absolutely. DO you blame the hammer or the person welding the hammer? They have blind rage without understanding the causes and the effects. Have they sat down and talked with the soldiers to find out what they did or think or just accused them of crimes? I'll bet there are robberies and murders going on in Berkley as I write this. Are all people from Berkley then criminals? People of Berkley use what God gave you... engage your brain and listen to all sides to determine the truth. You might actually learn something.

It sounds like the city of Berkeley only changed their minds (publicly) when some of the senators decided to withdraw federall funding to the city. Sounds like the city still needs to loose the funding. They are hypacrites.

The problem with this event illustrates a failure of the education system. The artis liberalis principles designed to guide the opening of the mind at our universities seem to have affectively closed them. Anti-establishmentism is not to be confused with open mindedness. Rather, it's just reactionary, closed mindedness on the other side from the establishment. What have these students studied about this war and its historical and contemporary causes? What occurred in the administrations prior to Pres. Bush (even prior to their births) to place our country in such a position? Do they know these answers or are they just venting youthful angst at a popular target? If they're protesting war in general, then allow me to join in. I hate war and I've fought on the front lines of this one for 5 years. I hate war because I have seen and felt its destruction. I hate war because I know war and the sacrifices required to wage war. What do the people of Berkeley know of either war or sacrifice?

I was walking from the parking garage near the Pentagon last week when a group of seemingly college aged kids started yelling out of their car window.."Baby Killer" to me. I simply explained to them that I indeed had to kill the children otherwise they wouldn't taste as well due to the meat becoming poisoned with all the high levels of andreneline caused by fear and screaming. This totally left them with no response and a look of fear and shock on their faces. They just drove off with nothing more to say :)

Back in the early 1990's my husband was stationed in the San Francisco Bay Area, with the Marine Corps. While we were there we met a lot of wonderful people and still regard them as friends. My comment isn't against all people from California just the ignorant ones. I know exactly how the Marines and their family's feel about the protesters, one day while my husband and I were walking down a street in San Francisco, some hateful person spit on me and called my husband "baby killer" right in front of our four small children. The thing that is most upsetting about all this garbage going on in Berkley is nothing has changed in over 50 years there and without the military protecting and defending our rights and freedoms, you wouldn't be protesting, your freedom of speech would have been taken away, your right to a lawful assembly would not be allowed, and our nation would be run by some dictator or worse. Everyone has the right to their feelings, but don't cut off your nose despite your face. Also, get your facts straight and research all sides of the story, not just one. Knowledge is power. I stand behind the military 100%, our government on the other hand is questionable and that is my right as an American citizen. If the government officials of Berkley force the military out of their town, then the Government (State and Federal) should take away any and all Federal and State funding from them. I sure don't want any of my hard earned monies going to a place like that. Grow up people and get real, terrorism is real and without our military we would be in the same boat as the muslim nations......I'm a proud Marine Corps Wife and the Mother of an Active Duty Army MP.