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The Military vs. Berkeley
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Why has this demonstration lit that spark?
Because I'm not aware of any city councils or mayors that have taken a stand saying military recruiters are not welcome and setting aside space for protesters at the door of the recruiting center. I don't think the military is used to being treated that way.
Is this the start of a new kind of activism where people who agree in fundamental ways still find strong disagreements?
Things have spread from Berkeley in the past. It's very important to ending the war that the public have a chance to debate the military recruiters on campuses or in cities. Because I don't think that our young people are hearing enough about Iraq before they get caught up in it. I think absolutely that this [having a city-sanctioned place for people to protest] should be adopted in other parts of the United States.
Does the vigorous [debate] we're seeing in Berkeley resemble the ones you led in your antiwar advocacy four decades ago?
What you're talking about [in Berkeley] is a few parking spaces for protesters for four hours a week. This is not quite on the scale of the Sproul Hall demonstrations of 40 years ago.
Do you think this movement of activism, regardless of how long it lasts, will affect the presidential race?
It will marginally. The candidates are only halfway through 50 states and going a mile a minute, and there's almost no time to focus on anything but their standard message.
But is there an advantage in saying anything about the antiwar movement and these specific protests?
I'm sure the Democrat candidates would give you 30 seconds and say, "This needs to be worked out so recruitment can take place and freedom of speech can be protected. Next question." They're going to stay with their script. They're not changing much in the middle of this. Not because of the circus in Berkeley.
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