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‘Our Country Is in Trouble’

An ex-bin Laden hunter on why the U.S. hasn't beaten Al Qaeda.

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  • Posted By: Jane Sixpack @ 11/14/2008 3:37:22 PM

    "We have found the enemy, and he is us!"

  • Posted By: abu1953 @ 06/02/2008 1:57:32 PM

    i agree that bin ladens six points are what causes anti americanism in the muslim world...would he settle for 5.. we still support Isreal. but not the facist states of saudi araiba, egypt etc??

  • Posted By: gopher1 @ 02/16/2008 12:31:31 PM

    I think this article is cause for Americans to question Foreign Policy for the 21st century. We should be asking ourselves, "What do we stand for?" We conveniently declare our support for democracy in the Middle East by supporting Israel and attempting to form one in post-invasion Iraq. Meanwhile, we talk out the other cheek and support monarchies, dictatorships, and radical regimes around the world (including the very same Middle East we want to spread democracy). We are, in a sense, hypocritical in foreign policy because it seems that we do whatever is politically/economically beneficial to the United States. What will we be in this century? An expanding Roman Empire and tyrant of economics? Police force for the world? Reassume our former moral/political leadership position? We really need our political leaders to have this discussion with the American people!!

    • Posted By: faminchin @ 02/16/2008 5:43:33 PM

      To me, just to hear you say these things, tells me that you believe Bin Laden and radical Islam, more than our political leaders. Do you believe that every time some cowardly murder kills innocent people and justify's it by saying it's because of our foreign policy, that we should stop and reconsider our foreign policy?

      To compare the United States with the Roman Empire tells me alot about the way you think. Consider this, if it was the US's goal to dominate the world, why didn't we roll into Russia at the end of WW II? Why did we rebuild Japan? Why did we rebuild Europe? Seriously, if world domination was our goal, why didn't we take advantage of the opportunity at the end of WW II when we had the world dominated?

      Perhaps you can explain how everything we do is to benefit the United States as you say? Be specific about the monarchies and dictatorships and radical regimes around the world you say we support. You make these general vague statements as if they are true, but you have nothing to support your claims!

      I'll bet your one of these "Blame America First" Democrats running around our country abusing the freedoms that others have died to provide for you! I'll bet you would be one of the first to jump the border if our country needed you to help defend ourselves!

      You should hang your head in shame!

      • Posted By: DIAZA17 @ 03/07/2008 3:55:27 PM

        I am prod that someone in america has a brain i salout you sir and all those people who disagree with him are people that are stupid in thier beliefs. See if the american foriegn policy changes it would make the world a better place. It is clear that when a mother brings up a child in america she sacrafices her self to take care of the child and when that child grows up the child hates his mother because she fears for his safety and the child leaves home because the chld feels that it is being retrained and dosent need thier mother. The same is done by the administration of America when they needed Bin Laden to defeat the soviets they used him and when their intrests where over they called him an terrorist. The main problem is Bushe's stupid desire for oil. See if someone bombed you children just because you had oil reserves in your country then you would feel the injustice. MY name is DIaz Khan and any man that challenges my view can openly debate with me face to face because i know none of u do. No one is safe you all seen the effect of the sunami. Anything can happen so you never no what is going to happen just live and let people live and when you hear that an innocent died what if your mother or father or children died then you would realise your stupidty. Diaz

  • Posted By: miamiman @ 02/25/2008 4:29:37 PM

    What this guy suggests is capitulation to those that would harm us. He works to give credence to the claims of Al- queda by focusing on their objectives and desires. Appeasement is a rotten way of solving conflicts or trying to avoid them; ask the Brits about their experiences with hitler pre ww2 or better yet read a history book and see the results of a major power trying to appease an agressor by giving major concessions. after reading this note the disastrous results.

    so he would advocate a complete appeasement program and hope that solves the problem? wait, this would mean not catching bin laden as he would become a legitimate statesman? so the real solution in his eyes was that after 9.11 we should have contacted bin-laden and told him WE are the ones that are SORRY?

  • Posted By: miamiman @ 02/25/2008 4:19:23 PM

    This guy sounds disgruntled and has not thought out his suggentions. I think he is just another junping on the personal "I told You so" "I'm so much smarter that you" anti Bush bandwagon. Maybe hes an EX hunter because he wasn't a very good one. He seems to want to deflect the blame as much as place it.

    Or perhaps book sales are lucrative especially if you can appeal to your audience. Well I'm not buying it.

  • Posted By: getzel @ 02/16/2008 9:00:09 AM

    Scheuer's 6 "reasons" are unrelated to "radical Islam???s "beef" with the West (USA/Israel & and all others not Sharia). They ???hate/murder/fight??? because the success of a free speech, market oriented economy and social structure, in their minds, means the end of Islam. In their assessment, the information age will see their fundamentalist Sharia tossed in the same garbage heap that got Marx???s nonsense. Honor killing (murder, by dad and or brothers, of suspected sister), burqas head to toe, freedom to kill any non Moslem as legal and proper, freedom to murder those who practice freedom of expression they do not like (to criticize Islam and draw pictures/cartoons: as freedom of speech), no education for women, no car driving by women et al; all gone if western market free speech succeeds: is why they fight, not that rubbish X-CIA ???big??? wrote. Do you think he is ???big??? enough to admit he was wrong?

    • Posted By: miamiman @ 02/25/2008 4:14:37 PM

      You sir have said it all and it is the TRUTH!


  • Posted By: faminchin @ 02/16/2008 8:17:39 AM

    I would say the real question here is this: Do we adjust our forgein policy for everybody that lists their complaints and kills innocent civilians, using our policy as an excuse, or do we only do it for Bin Laden?

    I believe it's time to start calling Bin Laden and his followers exactly what they are. A group of murdering cowards that hide behind women's skirts, using innocent children to carry out their dirty work!

    I think it's time to call on the Muslim world to end this. It should be Muslims that track down these murdering cowards that kill innonence while waving the Quran as justification for their murdering ways. These cowards deserve no credience! Nobody should be providing justification for their killing of innonence! People like Scheuer make hero's out of Bin Laden, when he is nothing more than a murder and a coward. He hides behind women's skirts and blows up innoencent women and children. It shouldn't matter what American Policy is. There is no justification for the actions of these cowardly murderers!

  • Posted By: gopher1 @ 02/16/2008 8:52:36 PM

    faminchin @ 02/16/2008 5:43:33 PM

    Look faminchin, you're entitled to your opinion on this and to think that I should feel shame for expressing concern with our foreign policy is wrong. I'm an American just like you and love my country! That doesn't mean that we haven't done "bad" things in the past or that we don't have policies that are wrong.....The reference to the Roman Empire dealt with economic & political expansion. Eventually, they grew too large, ran up deficits, and fell apart. That's a concern that I have especially when we'll be running a $10 trillion deficit by the end of this year. We trained Bin Laden during the 1970s-80s to fight off our former enemy the Soviets in Afghanistan. We funded Saddam in order to fight against Iran during the 70s-80s after our "Shah" was deposed of in Iran. We used the CIA and other organizations to eliminate/install puppet leaders in Vietnam, Guatemala, and tried to eliminate Castro in 1961. We support the Saud monarchy in Saudi Arabia and royal family in Kuwait. What makes them different than other dictatorships around the world? My point is, at one time or another, we have made decisions solely on our own interests around the world that has left a bad taste in the rest of the
    world. I'd love to see the US reassert itself as the noble leader of the world like we were during the 1940s-1950s when we did tremendous things in Japan, Western Europe with the Marshall Plan, and defeated the likes of Hitler & Mussolini in Europe. I love my country, always will, but at least I'm willing to lift my head out of the sand and will acknowledge when we make mistakes just like I would in my personal life. We've got big problems ahead of us and need discussion on how to solve them!! Look forward to hearing from ya.

  • Posted By: Karenn1 @ 02/16/2008 9:22:41 AM

    This guy just want to keep the war going to protect Israel. Osama bin laden looked dead to me year ago ,but the pictures now paint his beard to make him look younger.Which means to me the guy is dead or in S Arabia.Will be used the in fall election dead or alive.

  • Posted By: dMickey @ 02/15/2008 3:27:51 PM

    "For much of the 1990s he (Scheuer) ran the team hunting for Osama bin Laden."

    Scheuer failed to to his job. OBL is still out there. Why should we listen to Scheuer if he failed for a decade?




    • Posted By: getzel @ 02/15/2008 11:11:51 PM

      Scheuer succeeded in his job: he created these OBLs, he funded them, he taught them and now he, in true Jew hate form, blames Israel and America. Where the CIA goes a war seems inevitably to follow.

  • Posted By: getzel @ 02/15/2008 11:08:05 PM

    If Israel "falls" America is right behind it. The Mohammidans would be unstoppable. It is real irony that a Jew hater like you and Scheuer have only Israel between you and a burqa on yours. Scheuer is not correct in his assessment of OBLs actual "beef" with USA/West. But hate filled, like yourself,. are rarely interested in the truth...

  • Posted By: mark43m @ 02/14/2008 1:03:57 PM

    The reason we don't get to see any debates on the real issues is mainly because of the strong Jewish lobby and their major control of media in this country. If anyone dares suggest that the Palestinians are treated unfairly (like President Carter stated in his book), all hell breaks out and the label "antisemite" is cast at whoever raises those questions. I am not anti Jewish nor anti Israel but in this country one should be able to have open debate on the Palestinian issue without being afraid of being labled as someone who is against Jewsih people or against our alliy Israel. Over the past 50 years there have been occasions where just about every nation represented at the United Nations has voted to reprimand Israel for some of its treatment of the Palestinans and then the US vetos the resolution. I am all for the nation of Israel to exist but somehow all TV media shys away from any meaningful debates on this issue.

    • Posted By: getzel @ 02/15/2008 11:07:21 PM

      If Israel "falls" America is right behind it. The Mohammidans would be unstoppable. It is real irony that a Jew hater like you and Scheuer have only Israel between you and a burqa on yours. Scheuer is not correct in his assessment of OBLs actual "beef" with USA/West. But hate filled, like yourself,. are rarely interested in the truth...

  • Posted By: djconklin @ 02/15/2008 6:39:52 PM

    "he will do like clinton, when he was prez we were attacked many times, uss cole. twin towers, and over
    seas, and he did nothing,"

    Actually, Clinton was the one who sent the cruise missles in on one of their training camps--9/11 happened on Bush's watch, not Bill Clinton.

  • Posted By: keep it real @ 02/15/2008 3:39:00 PM

    this war is far from over, they want to kill us al, kids, wifes, blacks whites,
    if we vote in a obama who doesnt realize what were up against, were in trouble
    he will gut our armed forces like jimmy carter did.
    and he will do like clinton, when he was prez we were attacked many times, uss cole. twin towers, and over
    seas, and he did nothing, we need a prez like mccain, who will keep them on there toes, and make sure were not attacked again

  • Posted By: Thinkingoutloud @ 02/15/2008 3:06:00 PM

    The tiny nation of Israel is our only democratic ally in the entire Muslim Middle East. We support democracy. If we did not, Europe nor Japan would be free and democratic today. Our nation has forgotten that lesson, so we are doomed to repeat it, by appeasing radical Islam that does not practice what it supposedly preaches. This man lead the Bin Ladin hunt during Clinton's reign-not surprised at his passing the buck.
    Dixie

  • Posted By: CFBeehner @ 02/14/2008 7:37:03 AM

    Mr. Scheurer seems to be implying that we hike up our skirts, admit defeat, drop our support of our ally Israel, withdraw from the Middle East, allow Bin Laden and his Wahabbi buddies to re-institute the Caliphiate, and everything will be just fine. How naive. I am sure a rabid dog has a "rationale" for biting you on the leg but it does not change the fact that you don't try to understand its behaviour-you just kill it!!!
    The reason the US is losing the war against Al Queda can be traced to Tora Bora-where the geniuses Bush, Cheney, and Rumsfeld refused repeated requests by our on-site CIA commander to airdrop US troops along the Pak-Afghan border-thereby allowing our enemy escape to S. Wazaristan-where they STILL are to this day. Allowing our enemies safe haven anywhere is a recipe for defeat. Don't any of our politicians remember Vietmam? Or ever read and study Sun Tzu??? Obviously the answer is no they do not. The answer to this dilema is brutally simple. We need to find where Bin Laden and Al Zwahiri are and eliminate them whatever the cost. And that most definitely includes collateral damage to civilians. Our government needs to stop its hand wringing over Pakistan and its borders and go after these people. And we need to do it as quietly as possible-without asking for permission in advance and thus tipping off our enemies through our "allies" the Pakistanis.

    • Posted By: RfBshr @ 02/14/2008 12:14:40 PM

      CFBeehner, you DO realize that the "Collateral Damage" you refer to is loss of innocent human life.. right? I wonder if you would be using that term so loosely if it involved your son/daughter/mother/father/friend etc being killed and referred to as "Collateral Damage"

      • Posted By: NUworld @ 02/15/2008 2:26:31 PM

        Why they don't seem to mind "Collateral Damage"

  • Posted By: Southern Bell @ 02/15/2008 2:02:13 PM

    I plan to buy Mr Scheuer's book.

    This past week Sam Nunn and Willian Cohen were on Charlie Rose discussing the problem of Iraq and mentioned some of the same things Mr Scheuer does.

  • Posted By: timhebb @ 02/15/2008 11:09:35 AM

    If Newsweek's member comment boards are going to continue to be magnets for extremists, conspiracy theorists, neocons and other assorted whack- and nut-jobs, we should just do away with the comments sections. Let these wackos find another outlet for their hate, venom, and extreme and inflexible opinions. Or let a sane moderator do some vigilant housekeeping here; when the nutjobs realize their bile won't get posted, they'll find another rock to crawl under.

  • Posted By: timhebb @ 02/15/2008 10:56:33 AM

    derekneu assesses Scheuer's observations, saying: "...Take each of the six points Bin Laden gives for his anger toward the west and ask yourself if you would give an inch on any of them." Sigh. derekneu digs in, defending the status quo and urging us to continue on the same course we have been. And how well has that been working out?

    No. We need new thinking on the problem, and a new course. By repeating the mantra, "without being able to aquire cheap oil, our economy would take a massive hit that would be very difficult to weather in a globally competetive marketplace," derekneu misses the even larger point that the "globally competitive marketplace" is in the process of ensuring that this diminishing resource will never be cheap again, only increasingly expensive, no matter how many U.S. troops swarm over the sand. The U.S. needs to embark on a Manhattan-like project to simultaneously develop alternative energy sources and technologies, and press aggressively for conservation of traditional ones. Taking anything approaching a long view, oil is over, and we need to understand and act on that. Leapfrogging the politics of oil would be a great step toward defusing the conflicts with the muslim Middle East.

    "Strain them any way we can financially," continues derekneu, pouring gasoline on the fire. Again, how well is that working out? If we are so desperate for their oil that we recklessly invade the countries that have it to ensure its continued flow, just who has the leverage to "strain" the other here? Get real. And please, get some new ideas that work. These creaky ones haven't, don't and won't.

  • Posted By: BG-Minn @ 02/14/2008 3:04:46 PM

    Scheuer, so true!
    We've squandered a Bank of respect in the world and it no longer laughs off our ridiculous cowboy antics.
    Nor should it. Goofy jousting cowboy B.S.
    Amurrikkans! Wake up. Learn a language or two (don't forget English!). Try a little Arabic, German,
    Russian and get a feel for how they express themselves through language...you might see us as they see us.
    Leave the house for reasons other than work! Read some history.
    Argue with yourself so you're prepared to be with others.
    Citizens of other lands are on educational ascendency,
    their fervor fueled by the realization that they now, for good or bad, have a say in the world.
    We are at nadir. Jaded consumers listening to talk radio and waiting for another WHO ? - Ron Reagan!
    God help us! Really!
    To rely on tainted info stream from the humorlessly solicitous Limbaugh,
    cat-faced Morning Joe, and the lovably addled Coulter (wouldn't you just want to hug that cactus!?)
    and all those other shills for the "cause" will be our undoing. But that is the road we're on.



    Scheuer (German) : barn, shed

    • Posted By: pinkpanther87413 @ 02/14/2008 4:29:46 PM

      "Amurrikkans! Wake up. Learn a language or two (don't forget English!). Try a little Arabic, German,
      Russian and get a feel for how they express themselves through language...you might see us as they see us. "
      Though i disagree on your spelling of America you are so right it hurts on this item and a few other points but this one is so very true,context is more important than the words and you cannot READ context as they DO FEEL IT.

      • Posted By: BG-Minn @ 02/15/2008 10:56:30 AM

        ("Amurrikkans") Merely for effect , PinkieP - Thanks for the comment

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