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  • Posted By: horizon07 @ 02/14/2008 12:23:33 PM

    Our Leaders always portray what we do around the world is good and what others do is evil. This is just to make us feel good and justify our actions. Why would the Arabs or muslims hate us or the way we live as our leaders say if we leave them alone? They have no reason to hate us if we are not messing around with their lives. The fact is that we are messing around with the way they live through our support of their oppressing government and our presense on their land. How would we feel if it happens to us? How would we feel if Russia has a base in the U.S. and can influence our government?

  • Posted By: dxm8757 @ 02/14/2008 11:53:47 AM

    What does Mr. Sheuer suggest we do about Israel and Jordan? What should we do about Saudi Arabia?

    DXM
    (David Mack)

    • Posted By: pinkpanther87413 @ 02/14/2008 12:22:28 PM

      HOPEFULLY DISAGREE WITH OUR SALE OF 900+ SMART BOMBS, WITH THE IGNORENT THOUGHT THEY WILL NOT END UP IN THE HANDS OF TERRORIST, TILL THE CHECK CLEARS! SAUDI IS CURRENTLY RESPONSABLE FOR 40% OF THE INSURGENTS CURRENTLY FIGHTING AND 14 OUT OF 16 OF THE TERRORIST WHO TOOK OUT THE WTC. NOW WE SELL THEM HIGH TEC EQUIPMENT WE INVADED IRAQ TO TAKE AWAY FROM HUSSAIN! FOR STARTERS! I HOPE!

  • Posted By: mbacalla @ 02/14/2008 11:48:49 AM

    The author???s observations about Bin Laden and our response to him is not surprising. We have been underestimating our enemies for a long time. Take our view of the Japanese prior to WWII, we thought of them as incapable of mounting a threat to this nation, until they hit us in Pearl Harbor and took over most of the Pacific shortly thereafter.

    Fidel Castro is another prime example of our ???Imperial Hubris??? in action. Our presidents and government have been underestimating this man and his regime for almost 50 years. Yet, he has strategically outmaneuvered our foreign policy for all this time and put us on the defensive in the eyes of the entire world.

    It is a shame, but we do not seem to learn from our experiences. We always seem to take the short road, the easy way, rather than face the truth and act accordingly. I hope that new generations do a better job. We have not.

    • Posted By: pinkpanther87413 @ 02/14/2008 12:15:03 PM

      DON'T FORGET HUGO CHAVES. AS WE WERE ALSO INVOLVED IN PUTTING PUPPET GOV IN PLACE. AND THIS ONE VOTED CHAVES IN. TWICE! SO IT BACKFIRED ON US THERE ALSO, BUT YOU CAN'T DO A COUP, WITHOUT THE PEOPLE BEHIND YOU, AND THEY ARE BEHIND HIM.

  • Posted By: mrmurphy @ 02/14/2008 12:14:25 PM

    Mr. Scheuer,

    I take issue on many of the points you mention in your article, especially with regards to Bin Laden's opposition to specific aspects of our foreign policy
    "Our support of foreign states that oppress Muslims, especially Russia, China and India"
    You cannot be serious! Russia, China and India! I'm sure that the U.S. does not currently consider these three to be on our top ten list of "supported foreign states," quite the contrary; read the news with Russian bombers buzzing our naval ships, Putin's promise to target nuclear missles at U.S. and its allies, China's newly established military alliance with Russia formed to counter the sole remaining global superpower. Last time I checked India maintains cordial relations with us but trades primarily with Russia and China. With the sole exception of Chechyen separtists I don't see or hear any threats being made by Al Qaeda towards China or Russia.
    If we complied with all of the Bin Laden's foreign policy demands tomorrow they would come up with other aspects of our government, culture or people to continue their quest at forcing radical Islamic ideals down the throats of all "non-believers," Just ask Salman Rushdie. Bottom line here is that Al Qaeda, Bin Laden, and radical Islam hate the United States for much more than its foreign policy.
    You go on to compare the World War II to the battle with Al Qaeda.... not a fair comparison. Surely a former officer of the CIA can understand the difference in fighting small groups of scattered insurgents who have allegiances to no army or country but to radical Islamic ideals vs. large organized armies with well defined borders and objectives.

  • Posted By: mrmurphy @ 02/14/2008 12:14:06 PM

    Mr. Scheuer,

    I take issue on many of the points you mention in your article, especially with regards to Bin Laden's opposition to specific aspects of our foreign policy
    "Our support of foreign states that oppress Muslims, especially Russia, China and India"
    You cannot be serious! Russia, China and India! I'm sure that the U.S. does not currently consider these three to be on our top ten list of "supported foreign states," quite the contrary; read the news with Russian bombers buzzing our naval ships, Putin's promise to target nuclear missles at U.S. and its allies, China's newly established military alliance with Russia formed to counter the sole remaining global superpower. Last time I checked India maintains cordial relations with us but trades primarily with Russia and China. With the sole exception of Chechyen separtists I don't see or hear any threats being made by Al Qaeda towards China or Russia.
    If we complied with all of the Bin Laden's foreign policy demands tomorrow they would come up with other aspects of our government, culture or people to continue their quest at forcing radical Islamic ideals down the throats of all "non-believers," Just ask Salman Rushdie. Bottom line here is that Al Qaeda, Bin Laden, and radical Islam hate the United States for much more than its foreign policy.
    You go on to compare the World War II to the battle with Al Qaeda.... not a fair comparison. Surely a former officer of the CIA can understand the difference in fighting small groups of scattered insurgents who have allegiances to no army or country but to radical Islamic ideals vs. large organized armies with well defined borders and objectives.

  • Posted By: emckee @ 02/14/2008 12:10:32 PM

    Our foreign policies are shaped by our belief in OUR right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. When you start looking at the impacts that these policies have on other areas of the world, you will rapidly find that we don't care so much about their rights to the same.
    Mr. Sheuer has hit the nail on the head, but our leaders consider it political suicide to speak out against those with vested political capital - the pro-Israeli lobby, the oil and auto industries, etc. These are the people with power in America, the power to get a politician elected, not the populace as we'd like to think.

  • Posted By: NewUser1929 @ 02/14/2008 11:13:11 AM

    USMC1980--If Al Qaeda is indeed reorganized and stronger than before, how can you say that we are winning? Especially with our national treasure and military depleted so much already? And if 70% of the people there agree with Bin Laden, won't there always be replacements available until we change our relationship with the Middle East?

    • Posted By: pinkpanther87413 @ 02/14/2008 12:09:07 PM

      BINGO,YOUR RIGHT AS YOU WERE BEFORE!

  • Posted By: NewUser1929 @ 02/14/2008 11:09:49 AM

    USMC1980--Victory isn't decided solely about body counts or we would have won Vietnam too.

    If Al Qaeda is indeed reorganized and stronger than before, how can you say that we are winning? Especially with our national treasure and military depleted so much alread?

    • Posted By: pinkpanther87413 @ 02/14/2008 12:07:53 PM

      SEMPER FI, SAME 1/9, "SOLDIERS DO NOT FAIL, THERE LEADERS DO, AND START AT THE TOP" INSULT IS NOT PULLING OUT! INSULT IS ALLOWING, WITH OUR BLESSING? THE BAATH PARTY BACK INTO POLITICS,MILITARY,POLICE AND POWER! THAT'S AN INSULT!! AS WE WENT IN, TO GET RID OF HUSSAIN,THE BLACK GUARD, AND HUSSAINS PUPPETEERS, THE BAATH PARTY,TILL NOW! SLAP, MISTAKE NUMBER[LOST COUNT]!

  • Posted By: radicaltwist @ 02/14/2008 12:07:36 PM

    I just read the they will be executing a woman in Saudi Arabia for being blamed without reason or fact for practicing whichcraft. They are no woman rights in this part of the world or no rights at all. We have to choose either hot or cold. Can't be both! I understand that is not our duty to change someones beliefs, but Ignorants is not a bliss, and in reagards to Castro we have not understimated him, we just never cared for a rock in the ocean. 99% of Cuba is in the United States, and we have all we need there, a military base.

  • Posted By: falconer2 @ 02/14/2008 11:04:52 AM

    to "pink" and to "tim" I'm not against Obama... At first I thought his "connection" to Islam might be an asset... until it was pointed out to me by a Muslim that he is in fact a liability as I said....

    Oh and there are many words that are valid words simply because we use them. Google "ineducation" and after you get past it's attempt to correct you to "in education" you will find many references to it... so this in fact validates it. I used it for the point it made and so I still back it.

    • Posted By: pinkpanther87413 @ 02/14/2008 12:02:18 PM

      I MADE NO COMMENT ON ANY OF THE WORDS OR TERMS YOU USED,SOMEONE ELSE DID NOT ME

  • Posted By: newsweek789 @ 02/14/2008 11:56:30 AM

    "We've been fighting bin Laden for longer than we fought World War II. Why haven't we won?" I am stunned that the Newsweek reporter presented that question. What is the reporter's definition of "winning" this unconventional war? Is he expecting the cowardly terrorist leaders to emerge from their caves and sign a peace treaty on a battleship? This war will be with us throughout our lifetime and those of our children and grand children. There will be no definitive moment when we "win". This is an obvious truth that was either overlooked due to ignorance or intentionally presented as a U.S. "failure" to paint the current administration in a poor light.

  • Posted By: meekinj @ 02/14/2008 11:56:21 AM

    The problem is our foreign policy and all the things that Bin Laden stated above. So that means the solution is to leave all isrealis for dead, make enemies of China, Rusia and India, dramatically increase the cost of oil for our people. If we do that Osama will like us......I don't think that is a goos idea. While he may be a smart and cunning man, he is also an evil man. What would it say about us if our foreign policy was determined by a man without regard for anything that our country holds dear. While is might be a misconception that the terrorists hate us JUST because of who we are, but our foeign policy is shaped by our belief in life liberty and the persuit of happiness. I am not willing to change THAT.

  • Posted By: mbacalla @ 02/14/2008 11:49:21 AM

    The author???s observations about Bin Laden and our response to him is not surprising. We have been underestimating our enemies for a long time. Take our view of the Japanese prior to WWII, we thought of them as incapable of mounting a threat to this nation, until they hit us in Pearl Harbor and took over most of the Pacific shortly thereafter.

    Fidel Castro is another prime example of our ???Imperial Hubris??? in action. Our presidents and government have been underestimating this man and his regime for almost 50 years. Yet, he has strategically outmaneuvered our foreign policy for all this time and put us on the defensive in the eyes of the entire world.

    It is a shame, but we do not seem to learn from our experiences. We always seem to take the short road, the easy way, rather than face the truth and act accordingly. I hope that new generations do a better job. We have not.

  • Posted By: meekinj @ 02/14/2008 11:48:05 AM

    What the writter is saying is that our tolerance for the tyranical disctators in the region that are oppressing muslims is the reason the terrorists are against us. I seems like we should do what we can to bring freedom to these great (and intellegent) people, so that they can live their lives without fear. Oh!....Wait.

  • Posted By: dthomas42 @ 02/14/2008 11:29:42 AM

    Not being discussed in the presidential campaign? Not true: Ron Paul. Ron Paul and Ron Paul alone is talking about it and has been for the last year in debates, campaign speeches, interviews, etc. In the debates the other candidates seemed to be amused by these very logical ideas. When are we going to wake up?

  • Posted By: dthomas42 @ 02/14/2008 11:22:06 AM

    He's incorrect about the presidential candidates not talking about this. Ron Paul and Ron Paul only is currently and has been talking about it for the last year during debates, campaign speeches, interviews, etc. The other Republican candidates seem to be amused by what he's saying about this and not taking him seriously. McCain thinks it's ok to have troops in Iraq for 100 years. Why do so many people not want to hear this? It's so logical.

  • Posted By: falconer2 @ 02/14/2008 11:19:27 AM

    When asked in my book Saddam???s Revenge ??? ???How can we have peace in the world????

    Grandfather responded??? ???Leave behind you the baggage of yesterday and the fears for tomorrow. Strive for peace within you today and it will come to you, and as everyone joins you ??? to the world.???

  • Posted By: Badsydfx @ 02/14/2008 10:37:21 AM

    The posts I see here have completely missed the point. Our foreign policy is to blame for this war. Period. And until we as a people demand a change in our policy, both foreign and domestic, we , and our children's children will be fighting this war. The powers tha be do not discuss these issues simply because from a political standpoint it will not benefit them in the polls.

    • Posted By: pinkpanther87413 @ 02/14/2008 11:15:08 AM

      INTERFERING IN POLITICS AND OUR PAST AND CURRENT FORIGN POLICY ARE ONE IN THE SAME, YOUR RIGHT, OR WE BOTH ARE. SORRY FOR CAPS VA DON'T DO EYES. BUT WE INTERFERE, WE DIE. I SEE NO REASON WHY WE AMERICANS SHOULD SHED ONE DROP OF AMERICAN BLOOD FOR THE STRONGEST NUCLEAR COUNTRY IN THE REGION EITHER. REAGAN HAS BEEN QUOTED LEFT AND RIGHT, SAVE FOR ONE QUOTE, HE MADE RIGHT AFTER LOSSING 241 MARINES! HE SAID"POLITICS IN THIS REGION ARE FAR TO COMPLEX AND COMPLICATED FOR US TO INTERFERE WITH" AND WE CONTINUED TO DO SO, ONCE HE WAS GONE, AND BUSH SR.BECAME THE PRESIDENT! THIS I REMEMBER!

  • Posted By: Horseyboy @ 02/14/2008 11:13:13 AM

    I have been spouting two statements consistently over the last 10 years:
    1. The people in the Middle East have been fighting and abusing and killing each other for over 5000 years.
    2. They don't want--or tolerate--outside interference. They will unite for as long--and ONLY for as long--as it takes for them to get rid of this outside interference.
    3. They are a great deal more ruthless than we are, so they will probably win this war, too. We haven't got the moral fortitude to make them want to stop fighting us.
    4. Since, to them, it's a religious war, they harken back to the Crusades. That makes them determined to win this one. They can afford a whole lot more "war casualties" than we can. Life is not nearly as precious to them, and they have no problem with taking slaves. Which is what we'll be if we don't get off our moral high horses.

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