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  • Posted By: schvenger @ 02/15/2008 11:52:27 PM

    We need to pump water from the Mississippi and Missouri Rivers to reservoirs in the southwest. There is always an abundance of water in these rivers and they flood almost every year. So why not pump them when they threaten to go over their banks. We can build an oil pipeline through Alaska, then why not a water line to the southwest. Which is more important to our survival; water or oil?

    • Posted By: djbuzzed @ 02/16/2008 12:05:22 AM

      since most of the city drinking water comes from the mississippi river for minneapolis and probably many other large cities, you wanna pump water to the southwest? thats dumb.

      • Posted By: TPlayer @ 02/16/2008 1:04:38 AM

        What's dumb is wanting that nasty contaminated water.... obviously they haven't seen the rivers in the midwest. You can keep it. The rivers out west aren't as polluted as your crap water.

  • Posted By: egbloom @ 02/15/2008 11:52:38 PM

    The U.S. government is slowly, but secretly draining the lake in case of a terroristic attack -- catastrophic dam failure, which could severely devastate major populations downstream. Thank you.

    • Posted By: TPlayer @ 02/16/2008 1:02:21 AM

      Debates just wouldn't be the same without the conspiracy theories ... lol

  • Posted By: thinking @ 02/16/2008 12:37:58 AM

    Most of the comments I have read have very little to do with Lake Mead. Rather, people are trying to use the problem as a springboard for promoting their own political views and agendas, many of which are peripherally related at best. This is the sort of behavior that sometimes makes listening to politicians so intolerable.

    • Posted By: pete9001 @ 02/16/2008 12:56:41 AM

      Therein lies the problem with many of the important issues of our day. Most people, and I mean most people aren't interested in a discussion and the only "truth" they're interested in is the one they have been indoctrinated with. These posts are all you need to see. It's not about warming, it's about liberal's hate for conservatives. Otherwise these comments might be a little more insightful and intelligent

  • Posted By: JoeDynamo @ 02/15/2008 11:58:47 PM

    Desalinization of ocean water may be the solution for now, like they do in Saudi Arabia, we will or should be building desalinization plants.

    • Posted By: TPlayer @ 02/16/2008 12:56:30 AM

      The cost / benefit ratio doesn't justify it yet but the technology will be there over time like anything else. The time will come.

  • Posted By: christensenalan@sbcglobal.net @ 02/16/2008 12:47:24 AM

    We are all so selfish as if not another living creature has the right to it's habitat. Humans, what have we become?

    • Posted By: JoeDynamo @ 02/16/2008 12:54:49 AM

      Humans are inherently a selfish, greedy, competitive species, it is our legacy, and our instinct for survival, you see evolution does work.

  • Posted By: Rphil04 @ 02/15/2008 11:59:04 PM

    Oh good, take water from the Great Lakes, I live in Wisconsin. I don't see why me or my family should have to sacrifice our clean and reliant water supply because all of the resource hogs you all are in the Southwest, especially California. Please, do us all a favor, and wake up! Explain this to the other states that heavily rely on Lake Eerie, Lake Huron, and Lake Ontario, that for the good of the Southwest, we need to cut down our water supply.

    • Posted By: TPlayer @ 02/16/2008 12:54:17 AM

      There is plenty of water in the great lakes you ignorant cheese head. The lakes don't belong to you. They aren't clean, the factories pollute them heavily.... the fish are highly contaminated.

  • Posted By: FunnieGrl2001 @ 02/15/2008 11:59:56 PM

    Well Folks... Whats it all boils down to is God is coming back. Thats it. I have made up my mind. If there is anyone out there who reads their Bibles, They too have started to put the facts together. The times are close. The signs are here!
    I agree with so many many people on here. Its sad to see it has to all come down to loosing our water too.
    :( You cant take water out of the Great lakes, cause they too are receeding in area. Lake Superior is at record lows for water depths. Alot of us have been touched by these magnificent bounties. Its sad that the Gov't cant pull their heads out of eachothers rears. I liked your comments cgrpal,abuyassir,andrewwilde100, and TCnative!

    • Posted By: TPlayer @ 02/16/2008 12:51:50 AM

      It's going to get a lot worse before the 2nd coming... this is nothing.

  • Posted By: dowhijr @ 02/16/2008 12:03:28 AM

    hey electrified 101, you have got to be the most ignorant *** biggot i have come across in a while. How can you bash on people for working the jobs that nobody else wants to work? somebody has got to do it. a job is a job. if you are employed, you are legitimate. I am in the restaurant business and let me tell you, if it wasn't for people like me who work their ass off for their paycheck, you wouldn't be able to go out to eat. you wouldn't be able to stuff you stupid face in public. And just in case you are wondering, i am not an illegal immigrant or a mexican, I am a hardworking irish american from new england. I am also college educated and i work in this field because i choose to. i take pride in cooking for the public. Even for stupid, arrogant *** like you! have a nice day ***!

    p.s. Dont ever come to eat at my restaurant.

    • Posted By: TPlayer @ 02/16/2008 12:49:53 AM

      Who would want to.... just because you cook, wash dishes or think you are doing what others won't dosen't make someone legit. So we should just have an open door policy to the world?.... then you would be out of a job dumb ***!

  • Posted By: DOCGUNNY @ 02/16/2008 12:28:22 AM

    Turn out the lights, the party's over!
    When the tender-foots are all headed North and East... The original humans on this land will reclaim it and and prosper.
    Look out Oklahoma as vegas is looking for a place to relocate.
    2012 is the year for de-population and the 2nd coming.
    Ya'll better get right with your ways!

    • Posted By: JoeDynamo @ 02/16/2008 12:47:08 AM

      Some of us are still waiting for the first coming, but anyway if intelligent life has visited us from other planets, solar systems, etc., then they probably have their own ideas about the future of this planet, Earth, and we may be doomed either way, so let's just worry about fixing what we can control, now..

  • Posted By: TPlayer @ 02/16/2008 12:04:34 AM

    Vikking08, that is the lamest comment. Everyone is not an illegal. Once the United States became a country and established laws concerning immigration, that's when illegals began. And it's not 'racist' to make a comment like that. You don't know the difference between racism, prejudice and following law. No country has open borders including us. If everyone was allowed that wanted to, the country would be in chaos, idiot.

    • Posted By: thinking @ 02/16/2008 12:11:14 AM

      I believe what Vikking08 means is that this country was founded on blood, and that we were not the original inhabitants, thus immigrants ourselves. I would have phrased it differently and not in all caps, but I get what he means. However, It was more of a lashing at Pithy's comment than a true effort to address the problem of the lake.

      • Posted By: TPlayer @ 02/16/2008 12:46:37 AM

        Sorry but I'm tired of the excuse that we are all immigrants to justify turning the other way to are friends south of our border.... everyone on Earth is an immigrant. People have moved across the continents from the beginning of time. The fact is, countries have developed, along with laws for a reason. It's not about Mexicans or a particular race. But why should they have preference because they can walk across the border whoke someone esle cannot walk across the ocean? Do they not deserve aan equal chance for freedom andopportunity?

  • Posted By: Sumarongi @ 02/16/2008 12:42:54 AM

    "This can only work because water has no price," Brabeck said. "If we are going to use 1,950 cubic kilometers of water for biofuels when at the same time our ... water reservoirs are already depleted now, you can see that this strategy that we have today - and which is backed by all major governments - is not the right strategy."

    "If you would allow market forces to define how to define the value of the water, we could make a big step forward," Brabeck said.

    Krupp agreed that ethanol was not only using massive amounts of water but was diverting food crops for fuel, leading to higher food prices.

    "We need a market price ... for industrial users and massive (water) consumers," he said. "That will get tremendous efficiency and be a key to solving this problem."

    There also has to be a cap on the amount of water withdrawn from rivers and a solution to the global warming problem "because climate is going to be a great accelerator of water shortages," Krupp said.

  • Posted By: Sumarongi @ 02/16/2008 12:41:14 AM

    The links between climate change and supplies of clean water were underscored by Fred Krupp, president of Environmental Defense, who suggested that the repercussions of rising temperatures - water shortages and droughts - should spur increased efforts to limit greenhouse gas emissions. "Unless we put caps on the global warming pollution we???re throwing up into atmosphere, we???re walking into a hell for water shortages," he said.

    Ban urged top business executives to join a U.N. project to help poor people gain access to clean water - and he praised Coca-Cola, Dow Chemical and Nestle for their programs and their efforts to be part of the water solution.

    Ban's call for global action on water got strong support from several top business executives

    The map at left shows what percentage of country populations has access to both safe drinking water and sanitation. The darkest green signifies countries where less than 50% of people have access to clean water. Source: UNICEF/WHO

    "Water is today's issue," said Andrew Liveris, chairman and CEO of Dow Chemical Co., the world's second largest chemical company. "It is the oil of this century, not a question."

    "The technology is there [to improve supplies]. We need the innovation to get the business model and the delivery systems to the table, and we're very committed to doing that," he said.

    Liveris said there is a lot of water on the planet and "all of us" should be trying to meet the challenge of affordable desalination of sea water and accessing ground water above and below bedrock.

    E. Neville Isdell, chairman and CEO of The Coca-Cola Co., said "this is an issue which ranks next to climate change. ... However, water has got lost as part of the climate change debate."

    "The solutions are there," he said, but "the awareness globally and the commitment globally is not there yet."

    Isdell urged the world to "raise the issue of water to the level that we have managed to raise the issue of climate change."

    He also issued "a clarion cry for engagement," especially with the agricultural sector which uses 70 percent of water resources, compared with 23 percent by industry and 7 percent by "humanity in general."

    Peter Brabeck-Letmathe, chairman and CEO of Nestle SA, the world's biggest food and drink company, said "time is still on our side but time is running out, just like water is running out."

    He said the demand for biofuels is misguided because 9,000 liters of water are needed to produce one liter of biodiesel..

  • Posted By: katiecat @ 02/16/2008 12:12:52 AM

    Our Planet is dying......we are killing it. Global warming is happening, and most of you choose to blame other's for misleading us into believing that. Has anyone heard of the four horsemen? God did not release them, we did and they are running amoung us now.

    • Posted By: TPlayer @ 02/16/2008 12:38:01 AM

      Our planet isn't dying... get real... we're fine... we just need to start to do better with pollution and waste but we're too lazy.

  • Posted By: DOMBAR21 @ 02/16/2008 12:37:10 AM

    TIME TO WAKE UP AMERICA!!! We here in the USA think of ourselves as some sort of beacon of leadership for the world, yet our nation's downfall will probably be its own unchecked arrogance. There seems to be grave concern among the world's leading scientist's about dramatic climate change around the world due to global warming. Unfortunately not many of the world's nation's or leader's are heeding these warnings, including people, industy, and our own government. In this country (USA) as in most of the world, corrective actions are put off until the worst of circumstances or complete castastrophe is upon us. Well as I sit here and try to fathom what the future will hold for me and my family and friend's I thought with all the billion's and billlion'scoal the oil, electric coal,and other industries with high cabon emmissions build desalination plants to sea water into the potable water needed for our survival. If enough plant's were built here and around the world more trees could be planted, drought stricken areas of the world could sustain crops and possibly by taking a few costly preventative measures we can the world for future generation's!!! The time to act is now !!! Maybe find a graasroots organization on line and do something. Remember it's people who bring about change.

  • Posted By: Sumarongi @ 02/16/2008 12:36:41 AM

    U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon urged the world on Thursday to put the looming crisis over water shortages at the top of the global agenda this year and take action to prevent conflicts over scarce supplies.

    He reminded business and political leaders at the World Economic Forum that the conflict in the Darfur region of Sudan was touched off by drought - and he said shortages of water contribute to poverty and social hardship in Somalia, Chad, Israel, the Palestinian territories, Nigeria, Sri Lanka, Haiti, Colombia and Kazakhstan.

    "Too often, where we need water we find guns instead," Ban said. "Population growth will make the problem worse. So will climate change. As the global economy grows, so will its thirst. Many more conflicts lie just over the horizon."

    He said a recent report identified 46 countries with 2.7 billion people where climate change and water-related crises create "a high risk of violent conflict" and a further 56 countries, with 1.2 billion people "are at high risk of violent conflict." The report was by International Alert, an independent peace-building organization based in London.

    Ban noted that it was a drought that precipitated the violence in Darfur, Sudan. "Fighting broke out between farmers and herders after the rains failed and water became scarce," he said of the conflict, which has so far claimed about 200,000 lives and displaced several million people. "But almost forgotten is the event that touched it off - drought, a shortage of life???s vital resource."

    Ban told the VIP audience that he spent 2007 "banging my drum on climate change," an issue the Forum also had as one of its main themes last year. He welcomed the focus on water this year saying the session should be named: "Water is running out."

    "We need to adapt to this reality, just as we do to climate change," he said. "There is still enough water for all of us - but only so long as we can keep it clean, use it more wisely, and share it fairly."

    Ban said he will invite world leaders to "a critical high-level meeting" in September to focus on meeting U.N. development goals - including cutting by half the number of people without access to safe drinking water by 2015 - particularly in Africa.

  • Posted By: JRGarcia @ 02/16/2008 12:13:55 AM

    Well, if we stopped letting these hordes of illegal aliens into this country, that would solve alot of the water problem for the near future.......We can't supply half of Mexico w/ water and try to support ourselves

    • Posted By: mzsaynes @ 02/16/2008 12:23:56 AM

      Try using your brain. Illegals aren't the ones wasting precious water on fake lawns, golf club resorts, pools.... Oh yeah.... they are millionaires and they are the ones taking for granted our water resources. Oh yes, you are right. :::: laughing ::::

      • Posted By: TPlayer @ 02/16/2008 12:35:43 AM

        mzsaynes use your brain... uncontrolled population growth and finite natural resources go hand in hand. Where is the uncontrolled population growth coming from.... it is one of the mitigating factors. Oh yes, you are right. :::: laughing :::: hopefully you're not contributing to the growth of population... don't need anymore idiots... America is full of them.

  • Posted By: bubafett @ 02/15/2008 11:28:55 PM

    Amen on the illegals....and why are we supplying them water? Add that to the free health care, welfare and other leeching non-tax paying ways and we are getting the shaft. Why can't anyone see that America is not the bad guy - it's everyone that America helps who turns around and stabs her in the back or goes and talks bad about her to their neighbor. It???s time we pull the plug, shore up or great nation, tax imports out the rear and have a renaissance of industry re-birth in America! While, we???re at it ???Can I just get a hamburger from someone who???s understands and speaks English???? Why is it not our national expected language? The French, I???m sure, don???t tolerate non-frenchies living over there ??? they expect you to speak French. China, Chinese. Japan, Japanese. Come on ??? let???s get with the program! I will say, it sucks that most of us can???t speak another language ??? but then, English is the World???s second language.

    Anyway???I digress???water, we???re worried about water???.

    2008 - Socialism, Muslim or Capitalism .... You Decide!

    • Posted By: marknfg @ 02/15/2008 11:51:46 PM

      I couldn't agree with you more. No on in Europe would ever press 1 to speak their language. Also if Mexico is so amazing and when Mexicans come here they love everything about Mexico, the food, the language, and the lifestyle then why leave such a great country governed by a Mexican leader with Mexican people. I will tell you why because they have been around longer than America and the place still looks like garbage. Why because Mexicans can't get it together in their country nor ours. They are proud of surving burgers, bagging groceries, cooking food, mowing lawns. wow they made it. and the reason they do these jobs is because they refuse to learn English. Look at other minorities they came here and learn our language and move forward and the ones who don't live like crap.

      • Posted By: sugey02 @ 02/16/2008 12:32:39 AM

        Stereotyping is not analyzing. Not all of us Mexican Americans serve burgers! It would be ignorant to believe this or the stereotype that white people live in trashy trailors. Do your research and analyze your facts before you formulate your opinions.

    • Posted By: Json @ 02/15/2008 11:55:55 PM

      excuse me but illegal immagints are the people who mowe ur lawn, pick ur fruit, becuase all the other over wieght obese americans dont want to ....... ok if it wasnt for them u would be suffering right now.....but of course ur probably too ignorant and closed minded to beleive this! ......as for the language barrier ...i live in souht florida where there are many hispanics yet i manage to hear english everywhere i go so i dnt see what your problem is???.....if u have such a problem mayb its becuase your too scared...... America is know worldwide for its diversity its what makes us who we are !!!! ....... and for those people who dont know english as well as u GIVE THEM A BREAK !!!!! THEY are triyng to learn ...... u think thy like not being able to communicate with u ...NO !!! it makse them feel inadiquite.........

  • Posted By: TexasClearspeak @ 02/16/2008 12:28:06 AM

    Something has to be done to curtail the seemingly insatiable, ever increasing demand demand by Californians and Nevadans -especially Vegas. Legitimate users that should have the benefit of the Colorado River are seeing the resource hijacked. The Vegas ara is infested with golf courses, fountains and pools and it needs to be drastically curtailed. Let the casinos put slot machines on their spigots and taps. Not even so much as one more straw should be put into the river. The part'ys over. There's probably enough Evian and Perrier on California's shelves right now to fill their pools. Singapore recycles their water, even waste water - Let Californians develop their tastebuds to new horizons.

  • Posted By: LJoya24 @ 02/16/2008 12:24:30 AM

    Im sorry but all this arguing about illegals and what state is using the most water is useless information! EVERYONE EVERYCOLOR EVERY LAND MUST ,and I repeat MUST take responsibility for the "world's" water shortage. PERIOD!!

    • Posted By: JoeDynamo @ 02/16/2008 12:27:29 AM

      Why not construct coastal desalinization plants, as is done in Saudi Arabia?

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