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Worse Than Darfur?

Somalia's new prime minister talks about terrorism, civil war and a burgeoning humanitarian crisis.

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  • Posted By: shillinson @ 02/22/2008 4:40:07 AM

    We, Somalis have been in fighting for 17 long years, ten thousands of our people were killed, millions of our people displaced. Now we became war-weary. we can not afford another international war between international community and terrorists who heve been active in Somalia since 2006. International community's support is so crucial to support the fledging government in order to flush out these terror elemnts.
    Farah Jama, Kenya

  • Posted By: wardigley @ 02/21/2008 3:43:01 AM

    Somlia has been a failed state for long time and if the international comunity does not recognize the gravity of the situation it will be the next Afghanistan.

  • Posted By: wardigley @ 02/21/2008 3:39:26 AM

    Somalia is a failed state for a long time and if the inyernational comunity does not have wholistic approch to that crisis it would be the next afghanistan. By Ahmed Ali

  • Posted By: shaadiy1 @ 02/18/2008 3:03:31 AM

    i think it is time the USA Stop fighting with ISLAM, Because it has reduced their economy and brought lost of many soldiers and it i think it good for US to stop for their survival otherwise they are going to have allot enemies in the world targeting USA citizens in the world. i dont think people responsible for bombing those embassies were wrong to do so, compared what USA has done to their people so it was sort of revenge and i think it is time for world to wake up of what USA and its allies doing, as they are police of all over the world.

  • Posted By: jdoll123 @ 02/18/2008 12:51:31 AM

    The US kind of democracy can't work in Afghanistan, Palestine, Algeria, Iraq and Somalia. These countries do not condone free sex, blow jobs to their presidents by interns, lying presidents like Bush, gays, nerds, lynching, making fun of religions, "what is mine is mine & what is yours is also mine", intimidating and invading other countries, drugs, pornography, hedonism and the all bad things in the US. They just want to lead a simple life of their own, in their own ways! The chaos are all instigated by the US government. The US people are also fed up with what is happening in the world due to the US government involvements and the majority of the US citizens also just want to lead their normal lives like the rest of the world. Blame it on Bush.
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  • Posted By: Hibaq @ 02/15/2008 10:48:37 PM

    I think this is a bias and un-informing article that speaks on clan-motiviated issues and interpersonal issues and does not speak about what is really going on in my homeland. This is our prime minister speaking on behalf of Somalis, speaking with his belligerent perspective. Does anybody not see what is wrong with this article, or is anybody along with the world blinding themselves from the massacre. This informative article is not showing the world nothing but a bias view on whats going in Somalia. Millions and millions have died under this 17 years of war and hundreds of thousands have died against the TFG and US backed war. So please, dont tell me that this is not WORSER THAN DARFUR, that is ridicoulously undermining the situation at hand.- Im sorry im just a young concerned Somali-Canadian and I will Have say with what is going in in my Country. May Allah bring peace to our Homeland Somalia.
    *Salam means Peace
    Salams

  • Posted By: ajibril @ 02/15/2008 1:27:29 PM

    Very nice discussion. I congratulate newsweek for this opportunity to bring Somalia to world attention. It is one of the ways which increases chances of Somalia to over come radicals taking over Somaila.

    Abdi Jibril, Seatte, WA , USA

  • Posted By: Al-haji @ 02/14/2008 9:52:27 PM

    This interview was really informative. It showed how the situation is changing in Somalia with the government assuming its role more and more. Somalia can no more be called lawless or a failed state. We have a legitimate gov't that is trying to establish itself and some insurgents who are trying to topple it. It is their way of opposition as they are not accustomed to peacefully expressing their differences with anyone.
    Let's give Nur Adde a chance!

    By Said Mohamed, Minneapolis, MN, USA

  • Posted By: Daauus @ 02/14/2008 5:45:43 PM

    This is interesting topic & thanks for Newsweek.

    Somali's problem, whether one calls Civil-war, Clan-war, Tribal-War, Failed-war, Fanny-War, Food-War, Terror Gangs-war, Refuge factory-war, Somali business profiteers-war, Mooraan-war(as some Somalis call) is complicate, puzzle and Confusing. Why??? Because it???s going on for 17 years, yes! 17 yrs, Somali???s war was changing very year for a new face for last 17yrs that even Somalis confuse what's going on there because those born after the Clan-war joined the violence they do not know why it is started for first part. It was a regime change of long dictatorship but the gangers won???t accept any regime now, they had a problem with institutions.
    Somalia is point that a sick person advised by 100 people as Somalis proverb says, meaning sick person???s problems added to 100 different advises coming from other people. For that reason I won???t blame the Prime Ministry sir Nur Cade. He is a great man in a middle of Red Sea. I wish him at least to fix 5 percent of Somalia crisis. There is Wide Ocean of sharks and snakes to sail before Somalis get to peace and prosperity of their homeland. I hope for better for Somalis to save their innocent people. Somalis already lost many valuable lives for Clan-wars, famine, diseases, ocean crossing, and land crossing to escape all human dangers. Talkers talk for 100 solutions, the situation still exits.
    Daauus

  • Posted By: osman qooje @ 02/14/2008 5:41:47 PM

    As somali, i do not believe Mr Adde will be able to change or do anything about the situation that we are in at the moment. As long as the Ethiopain mercenaries and the warlord thugs are in our citeis, there will be nothing that he can achieve here. He is an excelelnt man but he is up against warlords thugs who destroyed our country and the people. The only way that we can achieve a peace is let the Somlis sort out their differences without interfering .

    osman

  • Posted By: Ugaar @ 02/14/2008 4:26:51 PM

    I think Mr. Adde is articulate and speaking from his heart in this setting. Unlike his predecessor Mr. Geddi, the idea of genuine reconciliation, which is why he was nominated, is paramount. For those of you who are not aware of, arduous reconciliation conference between leaders of dizzying Somali clans, representatives of regional administrations, members of civil society, and prominent figures were held in Kenya for two years. The outcome was the current Transitional Federal Government. So in the mind of majority of Somalis, reconciliation issue has been resolved. What the Western NGOs a.k.a International Community who thrive the misery of poor people in the developing countries, are forcing our TFG is to appease and accommodate the ousted UIC leaders and renegade former transitional parliamentarians who are current residing in Asmara, Eritrea. I think it is a wrongheaded policy and one that will result bad repercussions.

    MP Hussein is correct to peruse every avenue that leads peace and the return of law and order even if his administration talks to the remnant of UIC, an extension of Al-Qaeda International, but by not calling them terrorists, whom they are, is perplexing to me. So, your excellence, let as call a spade a spade and for the love of our Allah and the truth let us call these diaper-heads what they really are, TERRORISTS.

  • Posted By: caabi @ 02/14/2008 1:40:10 PM

    I think that pm nur adde will bring fresh prospect which is different from ex pm geedi . And I urge cadde to have talks with his oppononts ( oppositins) who based in Asmara . even tha Ereteria.

  • Posted By: Aguled @ 02/14/2008 11:44:22 AM

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  • Posted By: Aguled @ 02/14/2008 11:39:10 AM

    I think that Adde doesn???t understand what victims may feel when he says ???The Ethiopian government came to our aid at a moment when this aid was badly needed. Since then it has continued to support us in relation to the security restoration.??? If Ethiopia is what he said, who caused 1.5 million displaced, millions of dollars of fortune destroyed, thousands of Somalis kidnapped to Ethiopian military caves and tortured, indiscriminate shelling to mass kill civilians and merciless warlords back to public to resume killing, looting, destabilize ???. Mogadishu again. Nur Adde lost his credibility to the public. And this statement came from his insights.

    In addition, I would ask Nur Adde whether he can draw a line between what ???terrorists??? mean to US administration and Ethiopia on one side, and majority of Somalis on other side when he says ???The Somali government is obliged, with regard to terrorism, to be in line with international laws.??? I he knows, then who claims to lead? Somalis or ????????????????

    Again ???Definitely we are still continuing to fight against the insurgents, against any sort of terrorism. When we reach what we call a complete victory. ??? Adde said. What does he mean ???insurgents??? isn???t that Ethiopia and its alliance???s definition?. This contradicts his first steps.
    The positive, I have seen in this interview is when he says ???My reaction would not be far from that. I don't know whether [we'd be] fourth or fifth or whatever, but one of the fronts definitely. Not because of the current presence of terrorism but because we have the [possibility] of terrorism. I think the best weapon to combat that is reconciliation. I believe that.???
    However, it is time for Somalis to rethink Nur Adde
    A. Guled, USA

  • Posted By: Aguled @ 02/14/2008 11:38:13 AM

    I think that Adde doesn???t understand what victims may feel when he says ???The Ethiopian government came to our aid at a moment when this aid was badly needed. Since then it has continued to support us in relation to the security restoration.??? If Ethiopia is what he said, who caused 1.5 million displaced, millions of dollars of fortune destroyed, thousands of Somalis kidnapped to Ethiopian military caves and tortured, indiscriminate shelling to mass kill civilians and merciless warlords back to public to resume killing, looting, destabilize ???. Mogadishu again. Nur Adde lost his credibility to the public. And this statement came from his insights.

    In addition, I would ask Nur Adde whether he can draw a line between what ???terrorists??? mean to US administration and Ethiopia on one side, and majority of Somalis on other side when he says ???The Somali government is obliged, with regard to terrorism, to be in line with international laws.??? I he knows, then who claims to lead? Somalis or ????????????????

    Again ???Definitely we are still continuing to fight against the insurgents, against any sort of terrorism. When we reach what we call a complete victory. ??? Adde said. What does he mean ???insurgents??? isn???t that Ethiopia and its alliance???s definition?. This contradicts his first steps.
    The positive, I have seen in this interview is when he says ???My reaction would not be far from that. I don't know whether [we'd be] fourth or fifth or whatever, but one of the fronts definitely. Not because of the current presence of terrorism but because we have the [possibility] of terrorism. I think the best weapon to combat that is reconciliation. I believe that.???
    However, it is time for Somalis to rethink Nur Adde
    A.Guled, USA

  • Posted By: Aguled @ 02/14/2008 11:37:43 AM

    I think that Adde doesn???t understand what victims may feel when he says ???The Ethiopian government came to our aid at a moment when this aid was badly needed. Since then it has continued to support us in relation to the security restoration.??? If Ethiopia is what he said, who caused 1.5 million displaced, millions of dollars of fortune destroyed, thousands of Somalis kidnapped to Ethiopian military caves and tortured, indiscriminate shelling to mass kill civilians and merciless warlords back to public to resume killing, looting, destabilize ???. Mogadishu again. Nur Adde lost his credibility to the public. And this statement came from his insights.

    In addition, I would ask Nur Adde whether he can draw a line between what ???terrorists??? mean to US administration and Ethiopia on one side, and majority of Somalis on other side when he says ???The Somali government is obliged, with regard to terrorism, to be in line with international laws.??? I he knows, then who claims to lead? Somalis or ????????????????

    Again ???Definitely we are still continuing to fight against the insurgents, against any sort of terrorism. When we reach what we call a complete victory. ??? Adde said. What does he mean ???insurgents??? isn???t that Ethiopia and its alliance???s definition?. This contradicts his first steps.
    The positive, I have seen in this interview is when he says ???My reaction would not be far from that. I don't know whether [we'd be] fourth or fifth or whatever, but one of the fronts definitely. Not because of the current presence of terrorism but because we have the [possibility] of terrorism. I think the best weapon to combat that is reconciliation. I believe that.???
    However, it is time for Somalis to rethink Nur Adde
    A Guled, USA

  • Posted By: Mohamed_Ingiriis @ 02/14/2008 9:45:17 AM

    Nuur Hassan Hussein appears to be a man of peace and reconciliation distinct to his mentor Colonel Abdullahi Yusuf. Mr Hussein should be applauded by not citing and referring ???terrorists??? to his adversaries. He has to reconcile with the leaders of Union of Islamic Courts led by Sheikh Sharif Sheikh Ahmed and Sheikh Hassan Dahir Aweys. Hussein has to bear in mind that UIC are still enjoying the popular support of the Somali public.

    In reality, Somalia desperately entails healing and remedial curing, not clannish rhetoric as habituated by Col Yusuf who has recently said, ???One clan opposes my government.??? The colonel who has been a ruthless warlord for more than 30 excessive years believes that the current ???quasi-government??? belongs to him. But Mr Hussein has a good chance to make a difference ??? that must be a reconciliation as he noted.
    By Mohamed Haji (Ingiriis)
    Brussels, Belgium

  • Posted By: EE7011 @ 02/14/2008 9:41:31 AM

    Yet another example of the US government quietly supporting a military of some kind in another country for our own gains. Reminds me of the Iran-Contra Affair during the Reagan administration. Secretively offer support to the Contras, that came from selling arms to Iran, so the US government can overthrow the Nicaraguan government for their own gains, but if anything goes tragically wrong, the Contras would be blamed rather than the country that supported them! I haven't heard a whole lot about the situation in Somalia nor Bush's supporting of the Ethiopian military, but I wonder why.

  • Posted By: nawawimohamad @ 02/13/2008 10:23:28 PM

    The US kind of democracy can't work in Afghanistan, Palestine, Algeria, Iraq and Somalia. These countries do not condone free sex, blow jobs to their presidents by interns, lying presidents like Bush, gays, nerds, lynching, making fun of religions, "what is mine is mine & what is yours is also mine", intimidating and invading other countries, drugs, pornography, hedonism and the all bad things in the US. They just want to lead a simple life of their own, in their own ways! The chaos are all instigated by the US government. The US people are also fed up with what is happening in the world due to the US government involvements and the majority of the US citizens also just want to lead their normal lives like the rest of the world. Blame it on Bush.

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