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Anyway, Clinton's previous health care plan failed. I'm leaning more towards Obama.
Obama and Clinton ads both claim all Americans would be covered by their health plans. Clinton's would come close.
First!
Anyway, Clinton's previous health care plan failed. I'm leaning more towards Obama.
Frankly, at this point in time, for economic secuity and for freedom's sake I'd rather be living in Sweden, a so'called "socialist state, by most people's standards. I'm going by all that I've seen and read about it--and my current state of disabiity and chronic illness. And, yes, I'm also a productive member of society--but hang on by the "skin of my teeth" and sometimes in extremeley difficuclt circumstances not of my own doing. Does this make me a better person, as some might argue (survival of the fittest?) I do not know or pretend to know. I do think I could be more productive if I did not have the added stress of all this on my plate--but I also know these spiritual battles are meant for my welfare, too (by a God Who cares for me)--and so I reinterpret them as "LOVING discipline, and it doesn't seem bad at all, but actually an exercise in self-control and how to be an even better person." Maybe this would be a helpful way for more people who are in my shoes, too--although when one REALLY needs a doctor, there is no substitute. I have found over the last couple of years, however, that one seldom needs one as often as one fears (and I am an RN, too.)
I can name a few reasons why American health care costs are so high...
1. People with no insurance using ER as primary care offices.
2. Malpratice insurance
3. High salaries
4. Expensive education
5. Pharmacueticals Companies.
Pick one...
Both Clinton and Obama, make good and bad points. Right now I'm leaning towards Obama, just for the simple fact that Hillary can't seem to keep her house in order. Now Bill is working on a trade agreement with Columbia?? That is the most half-@zz backwards thing I have ever heard. It makes me feel like they don't have the American people best interests at heart.
Oh and for those of you that say if your person doesnt get into office you're going to vote for a McCain... that is just plain petty and immature. I'm wondering with attitudes like that... should you be voting at all?
have some questions about Obama......Are the comments below True or False??
Upon being sworn into Senate Office Obama REFUSED the Bible and instead was sworn in with the Coran.
Is he a Muslim?
He claims to have nothing to do with his father.....WHY?? What is his father doing these days?? Is he Muslim?
I have some questions about Obama......Are the comments below True or False??
Upon being sworn into Senate Office Obama REFUSED the Bible and instead was sworn in with the Coran.
Is he a Muslim?
He claims to have nothing to do with his father.....WHY?? What is his father doing these days?? Is he Muslim?
THE DEVIL IS NOT SO BLACK AS IS PAINTED ! A LOT OF "PHILOSOPHY" AND CRITICS ABOUT THIS SUBJECT, BUT NO ONE ACCEPTED TO TAKE ACTION...OVER AND OVER AGAIN ... 200 YEARS PLUS !!! BUT HILLARY WILL PROVE THE CONTRARY !!! ...EXACTLY AS F.D. ROOSEVELT DID IT....WITH SOCIAL SECURITY SYSTEM !! AND WE HAVE IT !!!...FOR ALL AMERICANS !!!
First of all,no incumbent can promise us anything, their ideas must go through Congress and they more or less decide what is going to be. Americans need to wake up and face the fact that having the Government in our daily lives is not the answer to any of our problems. All people need to be responsible! Not depend on the taxpayers and governing bodies out there to float them through life because they are too lazy or stupid to take care of themselves. Has no one heard of survival of the fittest? By taking care of the PPP we are perpetuating a decline in the gene pool.
I like to know where in the constitution of the USA it says all people are entitled! and believe it or not, we are not all created equal. Think about it. I work in health care,I see the problems,it's a mess and getting worse,but we can't lead the unwilling to take better care of themselves, and the help available to those who are willing isn't at its best. There is no quick fix and if there is one I'd bet my life it will kill you before you get the care you need.
Whether you like Bill or like farakhan doesn't matter. Whether your wife/husbamd is proud to be an American doesn't matter.
what matters is a cnadidate with substance - and Hillary has substance we can trust in and know she wont change her mind.
clinton '08
She has changed her mind plenty, where have you been? Her stance on issues have always changed with what will ultimately benefit her in the end. Please wake up and turn your brain on.
With the current system we have today, a person who is diagnosed with cancer will begin treatments within two weeks. Studies have shown that under universal coverage as in other countries, treatment will begin in about 8 months. Is this an improvement?
and you bas ethat on what, I was on Europe AOK care plan, and my father-in-law didn't take no 8months. he was kin the hospitol within 2 days and after a year and a paid for by ins plan a vacation on the Island of slyt just of the coast of northern germany, and my ex wife gave bitrth to my daughte in a German Hospitol and relese after 5 days, and that coat me out of pocket $25 dollars. oh did I tell you you I was in the army in germany back then, By retired and work for AAFES I was on the local national pay scale, and had the german Ins. why cus it was s150% better than anything American could give me. So don't be telling any ffibs unless you got the facts.
The German universal health insurance is not what it's cracked up to be. Germans pay about 45% in various taxes from their paychecks. That's alot. I know, I lived ther most of my life.
So did you come back to the US and if you did why if Germany was so great?
typical, I wouldn't trust neither one. what this county needs is a real Universal Health, much like those in Europe & Canada. Don't believe the hype that it won';t work here in America, The only way it won't work is toward the already overprice Medical care that we already have. Go watch the Movie "sicko" if you truly want to know just how bad the American system is compare some other country's. A True eye opener, and it's all true cus I lived in Germany for 8 years and was under the germany AOK Ins plan. This system does work. and we need a president who ius not affaird of the Ins comapny's nor the big MDA .\
I also worked in Germany for 12 years and was required to register for medical insurance. (a requirement when you went to work) I chose DAK.
It does not work. You are in denial.
They both have it wrong...the whole concept to Universal Healthcare is that NO ONE has to pay ANYTHING...there's no forcing people to get health insurance, no mandates, no ifs ands or buts. Universal Healthcare means when you're sick or hurt, you get the care, treatment and meds you need when you need it. It means walking into a doctors office or hospital no questions asked...regardless of sex, age, race, and if you have insurance or not. Hillary and Obama may say they have a plan for Universal Healthcare, but in reality, they don't have a plan for it...in fact, as long as Americans continue to be greedy and we allow our government to feed off the rich and the lobbyists, nothing is going to change...our hard earned dollars will go to the hundreds of thousands of dollars in profits sitting in the rich executives pockets. By the way...Exon Mobile's profits for 2007 were $75,000 per MINUTE. Makes me sick. And as long as American's keep on believeing the crap the media is feeding us, that Universal Healthcare is socialist and will lead to communism, well take a look at corporate America...it defines socialism and uniformity...so does the Police and Fire department in your home town...Universal Healthcare works for Canad
You obviously have no dea how the federal budget works. The fed 'pays' for NOTHING! They tax WE THE PEOPLE in order to fund their programs, which would include Universal\Socialised Healthcare. The citizens of Canada and England PAY for their coverage, to the tune of 30-40 percent of their paycheck. Nothing is free, including free healthcare.
No is does not. Most Canadians come to the U.S. for treatment and surgery.
And as for free. What planet do you come from. Nothing is ever free. Someone always pays
"the whole concept to Universal Healthcare is that NO ONE has to pay ANYTHING" You obviously have no idea how the Federal Budget works. The Fed 'PAYS' for nothing! They tax WE THE PEOPLE
Her plan is to use a federal government mandate to force every American to buy health insurance. She claims it won't violate our freedom because if you already have a private plan that's OK. But a government alternative plan will be made available. The government will regulate health care, define acceptable health insurance and force every American to buy a plan based on the government-established standard. This last point does not intimidate Clinton's Soviet-style affinities. When asked how purchase can be enforced, she told interviewer George Stephanopoulos, "We will have an enforcement mechanism. ... you know, going after people's wages." Incredibly, Clinton calls her concept of government-mandated universal health coverage "a core Democratic value." Indeed, we have a problem in the delivery of health care in our country. Costs are going up at twice the overall rate of inflation, with increasing burdens on working families. Why have health-care costs gone out the roof when the prices of just about everything else have gone down? Because health care already has become a highly regulated, highly bureaucratized industry.
If we want cheaper and more creatively delivered health care, we need less, not more, government.
According to Dr. David Gratzer of the Manhattan Institute, in 1960 about half of health-care expenditures were directly controlled by consumers. Today, it is about 15 percent. Over the same period in which consumers have relinquished control, per-capita health-care spending has quintupled and costs have skyrocketed.
Our health-care ills are symptomatic of our social ills. And our social ills reflect a society where the link between personal responsibilities and costs and personal rights and benefits has been largely severed.
Soviet-style mandates like what Clinton wants will simply dig the hole into which we are sinking deeper. The approach is morally repugnant, the antithesis of everything that a free society is about, and, like the former Soviet Union, does not work. More individual freedom, choice and responsibility in both the delivery and purchase of health care is our only hope.--Star Parker
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I am deeply concerned about where did you get your information from. Is it due to lack of education or something else. How many democratic countries in the world, particularly industrialized countries in the world who have government back health-care, are following Soviet style democracies?
Lest not forget, USA have the most private insurances but yet have the highest healthcare cost all over the world Health insurers run health care business like a corporation who pays fat $$$ to the corporate officers.
Say for example, Australia, I have lived there myself for the whole 10 years, my private insurance for one year is equivalent to one month premium in the US. The reason why healthcare cost so much in the US, Health insurers run the industry like a Monopoly.
I suggest to ALL who are in favor in privatized healthcare, to travel the world, see it for yourself and compare before you rant your incomprehensible opinion to the public.
The last thing I would read is an opinion of a misinformed american who could not do the math, economics and above all Logic.
I support the democrats "universal healthcare for all" americans.
I think you need to travel a bit more!!
Health Care should be available to everyone only if they want it. It should not be FORCED onto people. Health care should not be provided to anyone who is not a US. Citizen.
No, she sounds realistic and not full of false inspiration. Hillary has substance.
The tides are turnig in her favor - checkl your latest polls against McCain - I will vote fopr McCain if she doesn't get Dem nomination.
Dumbama is a joke. Go Clinton!
Clinton '08
I don't know what Clinton will do, but I know what Bill did and he done more for the american people than any other one that we have in the white house in a long time. He should not have ever been put out. He did no more than others that has been in the white house has done/
You can't do anything without the house and senate agrees. You sound like Bush, It is my white house and I will run it like I wnat to.
Part of the reason our healthcare costs are sky rocketing is the fact that soooo many uninsured people come to the hospital, not only for emergent care, but for basic care that is offered at clinics. Unfortunately, if they do not have insurance they still have to pay at a clinic, but if they are treated at the hospital, the hospital pretty much has to write off the expense, because you can't get "blood from a turnip" . So the cost of all the individuals treated at the hospital for emergent care, or basic care are passed on to insurance holders--therefore prices go up.
We all have to have car insurance to drive, I think requiring health insurance is a responsible mandate--but it has to be affordable. And companies who now offer insurance to workers, can't be allowed to stop w/ the excuse that the employees can get Federal assistance.
Comment: We need to be very careful and become better informed, After researching further into Hillary's healthcare plan I found that it is to be implemented by a federal government mandate to force every American to buy health insurance. She claims it won't violate our freedom because if you already have a private plan that's OK. But a government alternative plan will be made available. The government will regulate health care, define acceptable health insurance and force every American to buy a plan based on the government-established standard. This last point does not intimidate Clinton's Soviet-style affinities. When asked how purchase can be enforced, she told interviewer George Stephanopoulos, "We will have an "enforcement mechanism." ... you know, going after people's wages." Incredibly, Clinton calls her concept of government-mandated universal health coverage "a core Democratic value."
Indeed, we have a problem in the delivery of health care in our country. I think you would agree that Costs are going up at twice the overall rate of inflation, with increasing burdens on working families. Why have health-care costs gone out the roof when the prices of just about everything else have gone down? Because health care already has become a highly regulated, highly bureaucratized industry.
If we want cheaper and more creatively delivered health care, we need less, not more, government.
According to Dr. David Gratzer of the Manhattan Institute, in 1960 about half of health-care expenditures were directly controlled by consumers. Today, it is about 15 percent. Over the same period in which consumers have relinquished control, per-capita health-care spending has quintupled and costs have skyrocketed.
Our health-care ills are symptomatic of our social ills. And our social ills reflect a society where the link between personal responsibilities and costs and personal rights and benefits has been largely severed.
Soviet-style mandates like what Clinton wants will simply dig the hole into which we are sinking deeper. The approach is morally repugnant, the antithesis of everything that a free society is about, and, like the former Soviet Union, does not work. More individual freedom, choice and responsibility in both the delivery and purchase of health care is our only hope. --Star Parker
There is a concern that no one is talking about. Let's say we all get the new insurance. Who says the insurance companies will pay for the proceedures. I know many people who have gotten sick and the insurance companies refuse to pay for various nonsense reasons. Just because we have insurance doesn't mean we will get treated at the hospital.
There is a concern that no one is talking about. Let's say we all get the new insurance. Who says the insurance company will pay for the proceedure. I know folks how have gotten sick and the insurance companies refuse to pay for various nonsense reasons. Just because we have insurance doesn't mean we will get treated at the hospital.
It's amazing how no one has yet to mention that Clinton's CHIP program she "created" covers children only if their Mother makes less than $12 per hour, yet if a single Mother makes $12.50 per hour, they do not qualify...interesting how .50 per hour all of a sudden enables a single Mother to afford healthcare coverage.
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