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  • Posted By: rn.or.20yrs @ 02/23/2008 12:34:21 AM

    i am an r.n. in a 12 room operating room.i cannot tell you how much waste i see.every trocar and gadget that is disposable is chosen over perfectly good reusable options.these choices are made by surgeons who have no vested interests in saving the system $.companies selling surgical technology are also making huge profits and are like lobbyists catering to doctors.the insurance companies are culprits,but they are not the only ones-there is an active preditory pyramid in the "system".

  • Posted By: bethany617 @ 02/18/2008 7:36:57 AM

    What we have to think about what kind of person we will elect as president. Barack Obama is an honest and sincere person. He is passionate about really changing an Amercian government that doesn't listen to the American people and really doesn't work for the American people. This is what is so exciting about him. He won't change things enough to keep us satisfied, he will be the kind of president who will aim higher and lead us toward greatness again. Let's not miss this opportunity to elect a president who will work with members of all political parties to actually get results. That's the change we can believe in.

    • Posted By: Pucky13 @ 02/22/2008 11:17:14 AM

      I could not agree wiht bethany more. We have to realize Barack is one of us and he knows what it is like to suffer not being able to furnish your family with healthcare and things in life that should not be even an issue in AMERICA. Lets face it the system as it is right now is in deep trouble, We need fresh blood and a man that understands our needs and will fight to get them fulfilled

  • Posted By: jxjennings @ 02/20/2008 12:49:16 PM

    Wake up people. Stop using fear and false accusations to continue to control the masses. We have long waits in our country for medical procedures. The difference in your wait under universal coverage is that your doctor will get to decide what medical treatment you receive, not your insurance company. Yur doctor has how best to treat you his/her motivation. The insurace companies have, how can we save more money as ther motivation. Why can Americans not see that we do not have to accept this type of health care. For those of you who refuse to see the truth, I hope that you don't find yourself sitting in front of your xrays with your doctor discussing a treatment that your insurance company won't cover or they deem"experimental." You might not like everything about Hillary, but you better believe that she is the only candidate that completely understands this issue and knows how to make all the neccessary changes happen. Stop accepting all the spoon fed lies and take responsibility for learning the truth. The reason Hillary is so feared in the White House is because all the drug companies and insurance companies understand that she is going to take away their control over this country and the control of the health of our nation. They ahve deep pockets and they are spending money they took form us to ensure that Hillary does not get in a position to end their reign.
    Wake up! And finally, the government is the only entity in a position to stop drug and insurance companies. This is not an attempt by the government to control our helath care, it's an attempt to give the control back to the people. My name is Janice Jennings and I approve this message.

    • Posted By: dewcooper @ 02/22/2008 7:53:12 AM

      Health experts in Britain and Canada insist that the government has every right to meddle in the private life of its citizens since the state is picking up the tab for their healthcare (never mind that it's not the "state" but the taxpayers themselves). As Tony Harrison, a British health-care expert, explained to the Toronto Sun, "Rationing is a reality when funding is limited." So fat people and others can't get surgeries if bureaucrats or doctors don't think they're worthy of surgery. Now, of course, there's a certain logic here since the taxpayers are picking up the tab and someone has to make the hard choices about priorities. But it never occurs to these people that maybe the fact that the government is slowly being put in charge of many of the most important and personal issues in peoples' lives is in fact an argument against socialized medicine. It doesn't occur to them that refusing to unload seriously ill patients from ambulances, sometimes for hours at a time, just so emergency rooms can meet government quotas, is a sign that something is seriously wrong with the way statists handle medicine.

      No, when the government controls healthcare, it will NOT be the doctors who decide your care and treatment...

  • Posted By: Jewlztones @ 02/20/2008 4:50:10 PM

    Canada and many European countries. They live longer, are less stressed out and generally more happy. Think for yourself, and question authority. "The Man" is not always right. Look at the mess Bush is going to leave us with...something we'll be cleaning up for years to come. The problem is Americans are afraid of their government when the government should be afraid of Americans. Read the Constitution...our fore fathers are rolling in their coffins.

    • Posted By: dewcooper @ 02/22/2008 7:45:54 AM

      Health experts in Britain and Canada insist that the government has every right to meddle in the private life of its citizens since the state is picking up the tab for their healthcare (never mind that it's not the "state" but the taxpayers themselves). As Tony Harrison, a British health-care expert, explained to the Toronto Sun, "Rationing is a reality when funding is limited." So fat people and others can't get surgeries if bureaucrats or doctors don't think they're worthy of surgery. Now, of course, there's a certain logic here since the taxpayers are picking up the tab and someone has to make the hard choices about priorities. But it never occurs to these people that maybe the fact that the government is slowly being put in charge of many of the most important and personal issues in peoples' lives is in fact an argument against socialized medicine. It doesn't occur to them that refusing to unload seriously ill patients from ambulances, sometimes for hours at a time, just so emergency rooms can meet government quotas, is a sign that something is seriously wrong with the way statists handle medicine.

  • Posted By: tj@yahoo.com @ 02/21/2008 1:00:47 PM

    Suppose I tell you that the government will design a product and make you buy it. If you say no thanks, that's too bad. The government will decide what you need and what you will buy.
    If you say you can't afford it, we'll send in government investigators to check, and if they conclude indeed you can't afford it, we'll tax your neighbors and make them subsidize you so you can pay for it.
    We'll set up a government bureaucracy to monitor and make sure you're cooperating. If they discover you haven't made the purchase, they'll go to your employer and have your wages garnisheed.
    Let's assume further that total spending for this government-designed and -mandated product accounts for about a fifth of the nation's total economy.
    The former Soviet Union? Communist China? Definately.

    • Posted By: dewcooper @ 02/22/2008 7:44:20 AM

      Try the US under Wilson and FDR. We are now seeing, I believe Hillary called it, the New, New Deal...

  • Posted By: ParkerEducation @ 02/21/2008 8:00:53 PM

    Universal helth coverage is a benafit of a rich country. We are able to do this as a whole alot cheaper than individually. We should do it.

    • Posted By: dewcooper @ 02/22/2008 7:42:27 AM

      When has government control ever made anything cheaper or better? Education? Welfare? Social Security? Veterans and public hospitals? All were better and more profitable as private entities.

  • Posted By: supplant @ 02/22/2008 3:37:05 AM

    Conservatives preach against govement involment untill it come down to Wall-Street, Banks and Bussiness then they want the government to bail out, subsidize, create tax breaks, etc...uhh yea that's involment. They are against redistribution of wealth while claiming to be righteous Christians...uhhh read Acts 4:35 Hippocites it's precisley what the apostels did. Whenthegovernmentstoptakingmyhavhjghbbbbbmmmmmmmeeeelllleearnmomoneymonemand laying claim to

    • Posted By: dewcooper @ 02/22/2008 7:40:52 AM

      Didn't realize that the Apostles were part of the governemnt. Prior to Wilson and FDR, it was the Church and private sector sho provided aide to those in need. Read your history.

      And it is the Dems\fascists who want to 'marry' government and big business, via the model set by Woodrow Wilson and his disciple FDR (both idols of Obama and Hillary). As Wislson wrote: "Woodrow Wilson proclaimed that the goal of Progressivism was to have the individual "marry his interests to the State." "Government" he wrote in book, "The State," "does now whatever experience permits or the times demand."

      "No doubt," he wrote elsewhere, taking dead aim at the Declaration of Independence, "a lot of nonsense has been talked about the inalienable rights of the individual, and a great deal that was mere vague sentiment and pleasing speculation has been put forward as fundamental principle."

  • Posted By: dewcooper @ 02/22/2008 7:36:07 AM

    For those who keep saying that we need a socialised medical system like in Canada and England:

    In England, traffic cameras are now trained on drivers to arrest them for eating in their cars. And in both Britain and Canada, the old Hitler Youth slogan, "Nutrition is not a private matter!" has taken on a new life. One expert this week argued that obesity must now be treated like Global Warming, requiring stern government intervention.

    Health experts in Britain and Canada insist that the government has every right to meddle in the private life of its citizens since the state is picking up the tab for their healthcare (never mind that it's not the "state" but the taxpayers themselves). As Tony Harrison, a British health-care expert, explained to the Toronto Sun, "Rationing is a reality when funding is limited." So fat people and others can't get surgeries if bureaucrats or doctors don't think they're worthy of surgery. Now, of course, there's a certain logic here since the taxpayers are picking up the tab and someone has to make the hard choices about priorities. But it never occurs to these people that maybe the fact that the government is slowly being put in charge of many of the most important and personal issues in peoples' lives is in fact an argument against socialized medicine. It doesn't occur to them that refusing to unload seriously ill patients from ambulances, sometimes for hours at a time, just so emergency rooms can meet government quotas, is a sign that something is seriously wrong with the way statists handle medicine.

  • Posted By: supplant @ 02/22/2008 3:17:02 AM

    First of all know one like long comments. secondly I don't want another governmental agency garnishing my wages, finally The republicans so despise Hillary that she would be the most ineffective president to ever hold office to the degree that only what she could do with the sole help of democrats would be accomplished.

  • Posted By: tj@yahoo.com @ 02/21/2008 1:02:41 PM

    This is the new Hillarycare. Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton is proposing, yes very similar to communist Russia or China. She now wants to slip it past us by dressing it up in drag. Her plan is to use a federal government mandate to force every American to buy health insurance. She claims it won't violate our freedom because if you already have a private plan that's OK. But a government alternative plan will be made available. The government will regulate health care, define acceptable health insurance and force every American to buy a plan based on the government-established standard. This last point does not intimidate Clinton's Soviet-style affinities. When asked how purchase can be enforced, she told interviewer George Stephanopoulos, "We will have an enforcement mechanism. ... you know, going after people's wages." Incredibly, Clinton calls her concept of government-mandated universal health coverage "a core Democratic value." Indeed, we have a problem in the delivery of health care in our country. Costs are going up at twice the overall rate of inflation, with increasing burdens on working families. Why have health-care costs gone out the roof when the prices of just about everything else have gone down? Because health care already has become a highly regulated, highly bureaucratized industry.
    If we want cheaper and more creatively delivered health care, we need less, not more, government.
    According to Dr. David Gratzer of the Manhattan Institute, in 1960 about half of health-care expenditures were directly controlled by consumers. Today, it is about 15 percent. Over the same period in which consumers have relinquished control, per-capita health-care spending has quintupled and costs have skyrocketed.
    Our health-care ills are symptomatic of our social ills. And our social ills reflect a society where the link between personal responsibilities and costs and personal rights and benefits has been largely severed.
    Soviet-style mandates like what Clinton wants will simply dig the hole into which we are sinking deeper. The approach is morally repugnant, the antithesis of everything that a free society is about, and, like the former Soviet Union, does not work. More individual freedom, choice and responsibility in both the delivery and purchase of health care is our only hope.--Star Parker

  • Posted By: katwages @ 02/21/2008 11:49:33 AM

    Making sure each and every person has health care is wonderful. When you say you will garnish there wages to pay for if they do not accept is wrong. Do you even have a clue. With the high gas prices, cost of food,living,etc.Many Americans are already having to choose between food & toothpaste,soap,washing detergent, electricity,etc. Many of what used to be middle class are making these choices now also. Cut cost of everything. Give us some real releif.

  • Posted By: One of Many @ 02/18/2008 7:31:46 AM

    I do not wish Insurance to be madated. I am one of the working poor. My employers provide insurance for me, but I must pay for my children. It is very expensive but they are covered. Choices I make to afford this are, no cell phone, I drive a 12 year old car so I only have to pay liablilty on my car insurance, I don't eat out, go to the movies or anything else. I have a family and I AM RESPONSIBLE for them. If Obama can lower my insurance rates that would be great. Mandated insurance on Hillary's plan is unacceptable.

    • Posted By: sjbrock80 @ 02/19/2008 3:10:57 PM

      Great post! I agree with you completely - it should be a personal choice.

      • Posted By: twinoftwins @ 02/21/2008 8:24:05 AM

        Great Statement. In my state if you want insurance you can apply to the state and get it according to your wages. Not the best insurance but at least there is help for those who need it. The thing is to many people want every thing free and that is killing us as a nation. Like you stated, be responsible and give up some things. I did that all my life while raising my 3 children.

  • Posted By: Jewlztones @ 02/20/2008 4:44:22 PM

    They both have it wrong...the whole concept to Universal Healthcare is that NO ONE has to pay ANYTHING...there's no forcing people to get health insurance, no mandates, no ifs ands or buts. Universal Healthcare means when you're sick or hurt, you get the care, treatment and meds you need when you need it. It means walking into a doctors office or hospital no questions asked...regardless of sex, age, race, and if you have insurance or not. Hillary and Obama may say they have a plan for Universal Healthcare, but in reality, they don't have a plan for it...in fact, as long as Americans continue to be greedy and we allow our government to feed off the rich and the lobbyists, nothing is going to change...our hard earned dollars will go to the hundreds of thousands of dollars in profits sitting in the rich executives pockets. By the way...Exon Mobile's profits for 2007 were $75,000 per MINUTE. Makes me sick. And as long as American's keep on believeing the crap the media is feeding us, that Universal Healthcare is socialist and will lead to communism, well take a look at corporate America...it defines socialism and uniformity...so does the Police and Fire department in your home town...Universal Healthcare works for Canada, and tons of European Countries...they have longer lifespans...and are happier and less stressed out in general....it's time for a Revolution. American's are afraid of our Government, and our Government needs to be afraid of The People. Read the constitution...listen to what others are saying...look at these issues from more than one perspective..."The Man" is not always right...look at the mess Bush is going to leave us in, that we will be cleaning up for the rest of our lives.

  • Posted By: Cascadia @ 02/20/2008 2:16:08 PM

    My husband is an orthopedic surgeon and there is typically a six month wait to get in to see him for hip or joint pain. There is nothing under universal "coverage" that would change either the payment mechanism nor the services covered It is just a scare tactic used by the far right. We aren't that naive and things will change soon. Less then 20% of all patients account for 70% of all care those with chornic conditions like diabetes, heart disease and other lifestyle related illnesses. Until you get a system that pays up front for preventive care it won't matter how we pay for it. SImply covering everyone wont help when you also don't look at the cost of care. New drugs, new procedures that don't extend lives, even frankly the income of doctors like my husband.

  • Posted By: Themanager @ 02/20/2008 12:27:46 PM

    Just talk with someone from Canada, England or Germany. They have long waits for medical procedures.Even to see a doctor you wait. Don't mess with my insurance. Go after the insurance and drug lobbiests in Washington. Stop the phoney law suits. Once again it's let the goverment take care of me, and thats what Clinton and Obama are pandering to.

  • Posted By: maymok @ 02/16/2008 10:37:18 PM

    The Clinton's plan will garnish wages to forcibly enroll people into the insurance plan. However, Clinton does not say what will happen to the millions of unemployed since they have no wages. What about people who eventually lose their jobs and will have no wages to be garnished? Are they going to lose their insurance? Obviously, the Clinton's plan will leave millions of people out.

    • Posted By: dewcooper @ 02/20/2008 10:27:36 AM

      No, they will simply 'garnish' the wages of the people still working, in the form of increasing taxes, to pay for the unemployed. So, no one gets left out!

  • Posted By: sjbrock80 @ 02/19/2008 3:03:47 PM

    National healthcare will not be all roses like either candidate makes it sound!!

    Ask a Canadian how they like national healthcare, go ahead, ask them...

    Imagine this... You're sick and need to go to the doctor for an antibiotic. Do you think it will take 1 or 2 days to get it with national healthcare? No, it will most likely take 2 or 3 weeks to see a doctor because doctors offices will be overcrowded. Ever heard of the DMV, Social Security office?? Those are nothing compared to what doctor's offices will be like.

    Overcrowded doctor's offices - underpaid, un-trained technicians and nurses - that's what national healthcare will provide. Sounds great!!!

    Sometimes what may seem like a cure-all, great idea does not provide good for everyone. Do you honestly think Clinton or Obama are going to give up their personal doctors and use a government supplied one?

    Go ask a Canadian about how great national healthcare is...

    • Posted By: dewcooper @ 02/20/2008 8:50:28 AM

      Let us not forget the kid who died from apendisitis while wating for his 'scheduled' surgery in Canada. The Gov't response - he could have opted to pay for the surgery himself. So what good is socialised medicine if you still have to go 'private' to save your life?

  • Posted By: dewcooper @ 02/20/2008 8:48:12 AM

    So, the fed is going to provide health insurance for all persons in America, both legally and not. How long until the fed decides what they will and won't cover based upon lifestyle - obese, smoke, drink, drug use, etc.? if you fail to adhere to the 'food pyramid' and Surgeon General guidelines, will it affect your coverage? What about the illegals, will they be covered when they go 'home' for the holidays?

  • Posted By: illidan @ 02/19/2008 9:30:51 PM

    private health care should be provided for those you can afford it and it will give a full coverage, and for the rest who cant afford, they will be covered by a universal health care should recieve a coverage to a certain degree.

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