Seems there are way too many naive ppl out there who think if the average law abiding citizens have their right to arms taken away then the criminals will abide by the same laws also...What are they crazy?....If thats the case than why dont we have our rights to drive a car taken away to. Criminals use them to commit crimes and race through town and usually end up killing or harming others in there bid to get away. So if we cut transportation out of the equation then that problem is solved....Thats ridiculous! And isnt realistic, just like taking the ppls right to protect themselves because of a few mindless self destructing clowns . Maybe if those idiots out there even thought there was a chance that another citizen was carrying a concealed weapon they would think long and hard before carrying out there murderous plans. A concealed weapon would give a person a chance to defend themselves and save lives, as long as they are trained to an extent. Maybe training for certain school officials. So in the event that another incident occurs, then at least something can be done before more lives are lost. By the time police arrive the damage has been done. This way, theres an on campus response team of some sort.
More Guns on Campus?
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Posted By: observer101 @ 02/19/2008 8:55:46 PM
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Posted By: PROGUN1 @ 02/19/2008 9:08:11 PM
Good post, I like to see these kind of things. Good work everyone keep this debate going strong. If you can join the group.
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Posted By: PROGUN1 @ 02/19/2008 8:01:32 PM
Congratulations to all Students for Concealed Carry on Campus For gaining 3,000 New members in only 3 days, 15,000 Members total nationwide and in some other various countries. I am proud to say that I am a member and I want to fight back on crime. For those interested check out these few links
*http://www.concealedcampus.org/
http://www.concealedcampus.org/faq.htm
http://www.concealedcampus.org/arguments.htm
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Posted By: PROGUN1 @ 02/19/2008 12:41:31 PM
Congratulations to all Students for Concealed Carry on Campus For gaining 3,000 New members in only 3 days, 15,000 Members total nationwide and in some other various countries. I am proud to say that I am a member and I want to fight back on crime. For those interested check out these few links
*http://www.concealedcampus.org/
http://www.concealedcampus.org/faq.htm
http://www.concealedcampus.org/arguments.htm
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Posted By: Vlad the Impaler @ 02/19/2008 9:39:18 AM
You foolish Americans think that by outlawing guns you keep them away from criminals? Russia have very strict laws against guns, yet we have very much crime and criminals and organized crime have many guns. Maybe you should rethink your silly ideas before the government take away your guns and you like us in Russia, unable to defend ourselves against criminals and bad people!
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Posted By: sdave2 @ 02/19/2008 12:31:10 AM
Shut the F up PROGUN and stop campaigning for your god damn guns.
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Posted By: PROGUN1 @ 02/19/2008 8:24:04 AM
I just want everyone to have an equal chance at protecting themselves, The choice to live. I think that people should be able to see the link for better understanding I hope that is not a problem. Maybe you to should look into it. Have a good day.
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Posted By: Tomás @ 02/19/2008 8:08:08 AM
If you don't like it, then go live in Communist Cuba or North Korea where you'll be comfortable living in a police state, you liber, communist son of a b___ch!
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Posted By: fabronder @ 02/17/2008 10:41:46 PM
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Posted By: PROGUN1 @ 02/17/2008 10:47:13 PM
Confused on exactly what ur trying to get a cross here.
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Posted By: DrZook @ 02/19/2008 5:29:25 AM
I think he is trying to say that he has taken a lot of shots in the rear end. LOL!
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Posted By: Tomás @ 02/18/2008 10:13:12 PM
Very interesting! What, may I ask, does your personal ad have anything to do with the subject discussed in the article and the comments in response thereto?
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Posted By: DrZook @ 02/19/2008 5:27:57 AM
She obviously wants you to see her naked so you will be assured that she is not carrying a concealed weapon. LOL!
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Posted By: SCCC_CL_OUHSC @ 02/19/2008 12:49:23 AM
sdave2,
Please scroll down and see my reply to your previous post.
Why not participate in intelligent debate instead of using harsh language or is harsh language the only way you no how to respond when you are faced with facts you cannot refute?
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Posted By: jdoll123 @ 02/18/2008 10:45:30 PM
NIU campus security revamped their procedures after the VA Tech shootings. Yet, they still were not able to respond in time. Unfortunately, the NIU shootings are just another example of gun free zones that allow a shooter a target rich environment as resistence is non-existent.
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Posted By: PROGUN1 @ 02/18/2008 10:26:31 PM
Check Out http://www.concealedcampus.org/ Maybe Join the group
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Posted By: PROGUN1 @ 02/18/2008 10:22:57 PM
A nonprofit organization called Students for Concealed Carry on Campus would like to change that. The group, whose 12,000 members nationwide include college students, faculty and parents, champions legislation that would allow licensed gun owners to carry concealed weapons on campus, in the hope that an alert and well-trained citizen could stop a deranged shooter before he or she could do serious damage. According to the National Conference on State Legislatures, 13 states are currently considering some form of "concealed carry" legislation aimed at campuses. Utah is the group's model; after a state Supreme Court ruling found that the state university had violated a law allowing permit holders to carry concealed weapons, the school agreed that guns could legally be carried on its grounds.
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Posted By: PROGUN1 @ 02/18/2008 10:21:46 PM
It is the site in which the artical comes from, or is talking about i suggest you look into it, it is the website with the facts in which media and i and a few others are using. and I just want to raise awareness
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Posted By: Tomás @ 02/18/2008 10:15:45 PM
Interesting! What does your personal ad have anything to do with the subject of the article or the comments made thereto?
Just wondering.
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Posted By: PROGUN1 @ 02/18/2008 10:14:24 PM
Please Check Out http://www.concealedcampus.org/ Maybe Join the group
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Posted By: sdave2 @ 02/17/2008 11:59:20 PM
How intelligent... put MORE guns on campuses so when some unstable frat boy who just found out his girlfriend cheated on him.... or some possessive girlfriend... can go and shoot up some people with his/her "concealed" weapon. Genius.
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Posted By: SCCC_CL_OUHSC @ 02/18/2008 10:08:03 PM
You clearly have no idea what we are talking about. Read the rest of the comments on this page and you may see why your comment sounds like it was written by someone who is very ignorant about the topic.
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Posted By: CharlesP @ 02/18/2008 8:55:18 PM
Brian Malte, of the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence should NOT be qouted and NOTHING that the Brady Campaign says should be listened to. WHY???? Because I was the person who reported information to the U.S. government, about the assassination attempt against President Reagan BEFORE IT HAPPENED!!! I GAVE THE GOVERNMENT THE NAME " JOHN HINKLEY" and the fact that he attended a Texas college for a while, etc. I ALSO told the government that Hinkley was not to blame for this, as he had been DRUGGED WITHOUT HIS KNOWLEDGE AND HAD BEEN BRAIN WASHED BY A GROUP OF HOLLYWOOD SUBVERSIVES!!!
What is my point? The Brady Campaign has NOT EVER TRIED TO HAVE THE REAL CRIMINALS ARRESTED FOR THE TERRIBLE CRIME THAT THEY COMMITTED!! INSTEAD THE BRADY CAMPAIGN HAS LIED TO AMERICA FOR SEVERAL DECADES ABOUT GUN CRIMES!! IF THEY ARE NOT ETHICAL IN THE FACTS ABOUT THE SHOOTING OF JAMES BRADY, THEN WHY SHOULD/WOULD ANY OF YOU LISTEN TO THIS GROUP?? WHY DO YOU GIVE CREDIBILITY TO A GROUP THAT WAS FORMED TO INTENTIONALLY LIE TO ALL AMERICANS FOR THE PURPOSE OF CONCEALING THE REAL CRIMINALS AND THE SICK, SUBVERSIVE MOTIVES OF CERTAIN HOLLYWOOD SUBVERSIVE ORGANIZATIONS?
I would like to add that I am also the person who supplied information to the government about the assassination attempts against President Ford, BEFORE THEY HAPPENED! It was this information that caused the FBI to question Sara Jane Moore the day before she attempted to shoot at Pres. Ford. IT WAS THE SAME HOLLYWOOD SUBVERSIVES WHICH TRIED 4 TIMES TO ASSASSINATE PRESIDENT FORD, AND HOLLYWOOD BRIBED DEMOCRATS IN CONGRESS TO FORCE A COVER-UP OF THESE CRIMINAL CONSPIRACIES!
THE BRADY's AND THE ORGANIZATION NAMED FOR THEM IS PHONEY AND A FRAUD! THE NEWS MEDIA HAS KNOWN THIS, AND THEY ARE PART OF THE COVER-UP, AS HOLLYWOOD CONTROLS TOO MUCH OF THE NEWS MEDIA!!!-
Posted By: PROGUN1 @ 02/18/2008 8:59:37 PM
Okay Weird, but ill agree one thing is Brady Campaign is full of liars, who only want to see it there way.
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Posted By: SCCC_CL_OUHSC @ 02/18/2008 6:19:18 PM
Why won't anyone opposed to the message of www.concealedcampus.org answer my question? (Posted below....far far below.)
If you were looking down the barrel of a gun that is in the hand of mad-man "going out in glory", would you rather have someone on a cell phone calling the police to come save you or would you rather have a law-abiding citizen put a bullet in him before he pulls the trigger?-
Posted By: PROGUN1 @ 02/18/2008 8:36:24 PM
Iv mentioned this same comment, Would u rather have a telephone or a gun in that situation, because you can call , the police will come and they will photograph your innocent dead body, or you can chose to fight back and shoot him.
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Posted By: genoanv @ 02/18/2008 8:13:51 PM
I wish the reporter here would get the facts straight - "legislation that would allow licensed gun owners to carry concealed weapons on campus. By the way, who or what is a "licensed gun owner?" I've never needed a license to own a gun...
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Posted By: Tomás @ 02/18/2008 8:09:17 PM
More than 200 years ago victim disarmament was known to have disasterous consequencs:
"Laws that forbid the carrying of arms. . . disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes. . . Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man." -- Jefferson`s "Commonplace Book," 1774-1776, quoting from On Crimes and Punishment, by criminologist Cesare Beccaria, 1764
The following sound an awful lot like the hogwash our own government has been feeding us for years about gunownership:
"Germans who wish to use firearms should join the SS or the SA - ordinary citizens don't need guns, as their having guns doesn't serve the State." - Heinrich Himmler, Hitler's SS leader
A NAZI "assault weapons" ban?
"All military type firearms are to be handed in immediately...The SS, SA and Stahlhelm give every responsible opportunity of campaigning with them. Therefore anyone who does not belong to one of the above-named organizations and who unjustifiably nevertheless keeps his weapon...must be regarded as an enemy of the national government."- SA Oberfuhrer of Bad Tolz, March, 1933
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Posted By: Tomás @ 02/18/2008 8:06:32 PM
More than 200 years ago victim disarmament was known to have disasterous consequencs:
"Laws that forbid the carrying of arms. . . disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes. . . Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man." -- Jefferson`s "Commonplace Book," 1774-1776, quoting from On Crimes and Punishment, by criminologist Cesare Beccaria, 1764
The following sound an awful lot like the hogwash our own government has been feeding us for years about gunownership:
"Germans who wish to use firearms should join the SS or the SA - ordinary citizens don't need guns, as their having guns doesn't serve the State." - Heinrich Himmler, Hitler's SS leader
A NAZI "assault weapons" ban?
"All military type firearms are to be handed in immediately...The SS, SA and Stahlhelm give every responsible opportunity of campaigning with them. Therefore anyone who does not belong to one of the above-named organizations and who unjustifiably nevertheless keeps his weapon...must be regarded as an enemy of the national government."- SA Oberfuhrer of Bad Tolz, March, 1933
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