Scoping Out Obama vs. McCain

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  • Posted By: eddiewhere @ 02/20/2008 5:54:55 AM

    "YES WE CAN" T SHIRTS WILL SELL LIKE "HOT CAKES"

    BARAK NEEDS A YES WE CAN SLOGAN IN SPANISH.
    THEN MAKE T SHIRTS AND OTHER ATTIRE and HAND THEM OUT IN TEXAS AND OHIO.


    "YES WE CAN" "YES WE CAN" "YES WE CAN" TEXAS AND OHIO.

    IT is TIME TO SEND A MESSAGE AND DELIVER THE KNOCK OUT BLOW.
    TAKING YOUR GLOVES OFF EARLY IS NOT ALWAYS THE WISEST DECISION TO MAKE. SOME MIGHT EVEN CALL IT NAIVE.

    ONE OF THE MAIN POINTS OBAMA MADE IN LAST NIGHTS SPEECH WAS THAT THE CHALLENGE of implementing change is JUST BEGINNING> THAT CHANGE IS NOT EASY. AND WILL TAKE A UNITED EFFORT from all not just a few.

    CAN HILLARY MAKE HER LAST STAND IN TEXAS AND OHIO A SUCCESSFUL ONE.

    "OR WILL THIS OBAMA WAVE , POWERED BY A THUNDEROUS MOVEMENT FOR CHANGE, SWALLOW HILLARY AND HER ARMY OF LATINOS" eddiewhere 2008.

    OBAMA GAVE A TREMENDOUS SPEECH IN TEXAS LAST NIGHT.
    THE HIGHLIGHT OF THE SPEECH WAS WHEN OBAMA MENTIONED THAT SOME LEADERS SAY THAT I CANNOT ENGAGE OUR ENEMIES IN DISCUSSION. TO THEM I SAY YES I CAN.
    YES WE CAN. YES WE CAN.

    • Posted By: HolyRoller @ 02/20/2008 8:02:17 AM

      Only one problem with your idea. In the general election the cry will become-NOBAMA, NO HE CAN'T.

  • Posted By: HolyRoller @ 02/19/2008 10:42:40 PM

    Certainly looks like its coming down to the gist of this article. McCain vsObama '08. The BarakStar is without question hotter than a two-dollar pistol. He exudes confidence, and deservedly so.

    Me? I'm considering making some money off this whole thing. Might start a T-Shirt company, market around Republican gatherings and sell them faster than I can make them

    This is my idea. A pretty nice quality shirt to begin with. A well drawn caracature of Sen. Obama, wearing a turban, neru jacket accompanied with some love beads while proudly displaying a pease sign. I'm considering a gold tooth but haven't really decided..Underneath the words.NOBAMA!!!

    Back of the shirt-John McCain Commander-In-Chief '08

    Ya'll think they will sell @ $75 each?

    Pre-orders only$55-order now cause supplies won't last.

  • Posted By: jmsphx @ 02/19/2008 10:13:11 PM

    Seriously Holy Roller? Ignorant racists should not be allowed to vote. I find particular disgust in your response as you use the word "holy" in your name.

  • Posted By: eddiewhere @ 02/19/2008 10:00:32 PM

    OBAMA WILL BE THE NEXT PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES.
    HIS SECURITy NEEDs TO BE INCREASED.

    NUTS LIKE HOLy ROLLER have mental PROBLEMS. THEy are disillusione and live in a world that is not reality. AT FIRST I thought HOLy ROLLER was just angry. HE IS A NUT. WE NEED TO LOOK INTO HIS GUy.

    ANN COULTIER AND RUSH LIMBALS ALSO SUFFER FROM THE SAME DISORDER.

  • Posted By: HolyRoller @ 02/19/2008 9:46:26 PM

    NOBAMA!!!

    NO TO MOHAMMED!!!

  • Posted By: Ganpat @ 02/19/2008 1:42:44 PM

    If we - each and every one of us - just stop everything and BELIEVE that OBAMA IS GOD....I AM SURE THE WORLD CAN BE SAVED.

    Alter believes; Finenan believes; Maureen Dowd believes; Teddy Chappaquidick Kennedy believes; Maria Sriver believes;

    Why can't we ALL ?????????

    • Posted By: emmarcee @ 02/19/2008 1:56:25 PM

      Hwy Ganpat.. i. , looks like only few are standing up and fighting the antichrist.. .. Should we just leave it for fate.. of America.. may be its all meant to be.. We did n't have problem reelecting Bush..

      • Posted By: HolyRoller @ 02/19/2008 9:42:23 PM

        Nah, he's not the anti-christ,but possibly is the false prophet.

    • Posted By: Zombiehero @ 02/19/2008 9:36:21 PM

      now I believe... thank you. I wonder if we can get a tax exempt status by worshiping Barak?

  • Posted By: HolyRoller @ 02/19/2008 9:40:21 PM

    AMERICAN HERO vs ISLAMIC SYMPATHIZER?? hmm, how to decide?

  • Posted By: Cruzman @ 02/19/2008 6:27:00 PM

    You get paid for this? Why don't you focus on the issues instead of throwing mud at two good men. Yes, McCain is old and yes he was surrounded by old men. Is there any other kind in Congress? Barak is Black, yes and so are a lot of good men in Government. This is not about Race or Gender, but what is best for America. This election will bring out the worst in people because it is being fomented by the liberal media that can't get over the fact that G.W. Bush was elected president. It's getting old. Bush is not running for re-election.
    McCain is!!!!

  • Posted By: maziar @ 02/19/2008 2:54:50 PM

    McCain???s Double Talk Express

    In 2000 when John McCain was ridding the "Straight Talk Express" he said:
    "If Gearge W. Bush is a reformer I am an astronaut."
    In 2004, with his eye on the presidency, McCain campaigned on Bush's re-election bus, and repeated his well-rehearsed line:
    ''I believe that the president of the United States has led this nation with great strength and clarity, and I believe that he should be re-elected. He is determined to make this world a better, safer, freer place. He deserves not only our support but our admiration."



    As an anti-establishment candidate John McCain denounced pandering to the religious extremists of his party as:
    "Agents of intolerance;"
    To win this years Republican nomination he embraced them :
    I believe that the Christian Right" has a major role to play in the Republican Party.



    On a woman???s right to choose he said:
    "certainly in the short term, or even the long term, I would not support repeal of Roe v. Wade, which would then force X number of women in America to [undergo] illegal and dangerous operations."
    After meeting with Jerry Falwell he said:
    "its very likely or possible that the Supreme Court should ??? could overturn Roe v. Wade, which would then return these decisions to the states, which I support."
    Of tax cuts for the rich in war time John McCain said:
    "I voted against the tax cuts because of the disproportionate amount that went to the wealthy Americans."
    To win the Republican nomination McCain now supports making those tax cuts permanent


    In 2006 McCain opposed the passage of the Intelligence Authorization Conference insisting that waterboarding was torture, cruel treatment prohibited by Common Article 3 and conduct that shocks the conscience. He said that the Bush Administration's legal analysis had been dishonest and flatly wrong.
    To win this nomination this year McCain voted against the law that banned waterboarding as torture.



    In 2005 he introduced the Kennedy-McCain immigration bill, now he says he would not vote for his own bill.

    Somewhere on the road to the Republican nomination John McCain???s Straight talk express lost it wheels and stalled in double talk of the old Washington insiders.

  • Posted By: HolyRoller @ 02/16/2008 10:02:14 PM

    Serious electoral question--Many if not most people forsee a McCain/ Obama general election. If this is the case, I have a serious point of discussion. Most American's of Jewish decent vote Democrat. Sen. Joe Lieberman is the most prominent member of this distinct group. He is a STRONG allie of John McCain. Obama has serious issues with his so called mohammed ties. What is the number of the Jewish community that will cross party lines and vote-John McCain Commander-In-Chief of the United States Armed Forces? NOBAMA!!!

    • Posted By: Skokie Girl @ 02/19/2008 11:59:24 AM

      My, God, I must be so NAIEVE! I honestly did not know that such BIGOTS as you still existed. What a waste of a human being. You appear to be able to write so try reading. The majority of Jewish people are REPUBLICANS so they won't vote for Obama anyway. Any Jews that do happen to vote for him will be highly educated individuals who are able to comprehend what they read and view. Senator Obama is a Christian. The fact that his father was a Muslim does not make him one automatically. And, even if he was a Muslim, so what? Does that make him a terrorist sympathizer??? Please, think before you write such bigoted, idiotic dribble!

    • Posted By: okie_magic @ 02/17/2008 2:27:27 AM

      If Jewish folks refuse to vote for an African American, then maybe they need to join the party of old white people, the GOP. I guarantee you that plenty of blacks voted for Lieberman when he was Gore's running mate in 2000.

      • Posted By: HolyRoller @ 02/17/2008 9:16:58 AM

        My question is not about color, but his muslim ties. I don't forsee many Jews voting for him because of this.

        • Posted By: TheMightyThor @ 02/17/2008 12:42:25 PM

          WHAT MUSLIM TIES???!! Hello, muslims DO NOT HAVE CHURCH MEMBERSHIPS! If you and others who believe as you do are not smart enough to figure out the obvious flaw in that claim, you are doing the rest of us a disservice by voting.

          • Posted By: HolyRoller @ 02/17/2008 1:03:36 PM

            You know that was born muslim, eductated muslim, and is revered in the Islamic culture(especially Indonesia) as a sort of muslim savior. All of this information is easy to obtain.

            As for his "church" it is more cultlike than Christian. Members are required to pledge alligience to Africa, his "pastor" is on record as blaming the U.S.A. for 9/11, they recently honored the great Louis Farrakhan for all his mighty achievments, they are ant-Israel, pro-muslim and just plain creepy.

            NOBAMA!!!

            • Posted By: realerthanrealdealholyfield @ 02/17/2008 3:01:57 PM

              You can't be "born" muslim any more than you can be "born" Christian! He also went to catholic school as a kid, so I guess that makes him catholic too, eh?
              Apparently you were "born" a bigot.

            • Posted By: realerthanrealdealholyfield @ 02/17/2008 3:00:31 PM

              You are pretty stupid. How are you 'born' muslim? Find a better outlet for your bigoted mind that this

  • Posted By: Karenn1 @ 02/19/2008 9:42:44 AM



























    Obama a word twister . Maybe , McCain now thats another thing.There is something he is hiding or he jus t an accident looking for some where to happen. McCain no way jose. This guy wants to prove he is tough and still call vietnamese chinks. Wet start john no way.

  • Posted By: Real Talk @ 02/16/2008 4:20:10 PM

    Obama belongs to a church that prescribes for its surrounding neighbourhood and for black communities across Ameirca a black liberation theology. It is from all appearances a church in the traditional christian sense of what a church would be like in America, bible based and rooted in the idea that Jesus the Nazerath is the Christ and Savior. It includes into its mandate a black liberation theology designed to attract African Americans, but in no way would discard the membership or attendance of any White American who might want to attend as most people would make the case of saying. His church isn't a cult, it doesn't sacriface humans or animals on the alter or make claims of superiority for blacks.

    Conservatives really need to stop believing in the propaganda that has been spewed out for them to regurgitate...that Obama is a secret Muslim, or that he belongs to a cult like church...if his church be a cult...then alot of black congregation churches in America should all be considered cults. Noon on a sunday is the most segregated hour in America...where races of all colors attend a church of their own cultural persuassion. A phenomenon that doesn't surprise me any more then the theme you'd see in a high school cafeteria, people of similar races group together...nothing weird about that.

    But what Obama is doing is no different from what Dr King wanted to do...Dr King belonged to a black based church...Dr King was an advocate of civil rights, so is Obama to a degree...Dr King openly opposed a war when it was not popular to do so...Obama has done the same...and will hopefully one day soon bring an end to the weeping mothers who worry about their sons and daughters abroad who are being shelled at everyday by Muslim extremists who dont like us there.

    Conservatives better pray that Obama is the frontrunner chosen from out of the democart side...because if Clinton is the one to get nominated...not only would she beat Mccain just as Obama would...but Clinton unlike Obama will not be able to get republican support in the senate. Republicans actually tend to like Obama.

    Wake up America...stop saying Obama doesnt have the experience...when your elected president your given the best panel experts around...all that is required of a president is character and charisma...and a little bit of youth wouldnt hurt either...Mccain looks like he's about to keel over...is that really the best the republicans can do?

    • Posted By: HolyRoller @ 02/16/2008 5:18:25 PM

      American Hero vs Islamic sympathizer hmm, this is going to be a hard choice.

      • Posted By: crystal1906 @ 02/18/2008 5:39:13 PM

        HollyRoller I'm sorry but I need to clue you in, all your comments are completely ridiculous and I tried to ignore them but after this one I honestly have to reply. You sound like an extremley racist, and prejudiced person, so I won't waste too much time, because you obviously already have your ideas formed.

        1. Im 17 years old, i live in spain and yeah, im a girl. I believe in obama. NOT because I think he's cool, because I know its time America needs a leader like him.

        Yes Mcain is a hero, and we have tremendous respect him and for what he endured. However much you may be against a war, you should never be against the troops. They are all amazing indivduals.
        But being a war hero doesnt entitle you to the presidency.

        2. When i heard obama speak he really REALLY touched my heart, and he gave me real hope, something i havent had in a long while, and I know hes done the same for so many others.

        3.No one gives any importance to these Muslim rumors anymore.

        and in regards to one of your other comments---where the youth will just chant change change change and be oblivious to all else---the only thing it proves is that you are one synical, angry person. By saying that you are insulting everyone who voted for him. You honeslty believe the youth--and you ONLY excluded the soldiers in your statement--are all "blind to the truth?"

        Every single one of Obamas ideas and statements about change are backed by real believable working plans. He himself even states the reality of it, saying it will be difficult to bring it about. THATS why people are voting for him.

        • Posted By: Zombiehero @ 02/18/2008 9:30:21 PM

          Point 1... agreed but being a war hero give you an advantage over someone that has never served... especially to the servicemen and woman out there.
          Point 2... Disagree.., I've heard songs that touched my heart but Im not going to vote for person that wrote it.
          Point 3...I would agree but Holy Roller is one of the probably millions of people will which is sad...but true.

  • Posted By: forthehullofit @ 02/16/2008 4:53:11 PM

    Obama may be inexperienced, but he sure learns fast! The Clintons have been working on this campaign for over a decade -- yet in a few short months, Obama has created a campaign machine of his own that is barreling through states fast and furiously. Apparently, the junior senator knows how to tap into talent. And that's exactly what a good leader does. Whether in a business or a government, a great leader is one who can inspire people to strive for excellence. Why does he inspire the youth? Like a great teacher who expects the best effort, Obama expects Americans to pull together. It's high time we did just that.

    I'm a youthful 59 year old white woman. The pundits I'm not representative of Obama's "core" supporters. I think they may be wrong again.

    • Posted By: HolyRoller @ 02/16/2008 5:12:28 PM

      You ask "Why does he inspire the youth". I offer a simple explanation. Excessive YouTube along with a hypnotic chant of CHANGE, CHANGE, CHANGE, CHANGE...., this will most likely lead to bipolor disorder, which will land them in rehab. Then they too are COOL!

      Our youth have never had to take any real risks(except our proud soldiers), pay any taxes, make hard decisions, and look at life through the eyes of reality TV. They just don't know any better.

      John McCain will easily defeat Sen. Obama, but it will not be just because of the Republican vote. John McCain will recieve the most crossover Democrate votes since Reagan-Carter. Many find him quite an attractive Commander-In-Chief candidate. And that is the office that is of utmost importance in this age.

      • Posted By: Zombiehero @ 02/18/2008 9:25:27 PM

        I don't agree with you often but I agree with your crossover comment. McCain will win a lot of crossover especially the Hill supporters that have heard to much "Change" but not enough substance or solutions. The Commander question especially will get a lot of support for McCain. It would be like making a cadent fresh out of the academy a 4 star rank and having him run the show... yes the President will have advisors.. but who would you have running the military? I have more military experience playing Call of Duty 4 than Obama has.

  • Posted By: lillea @ 02/16/2008 6:16:34 PM

    I guess my main question for Obama is : Would you please define the word "Change"? Do you want to change the USA from "the land of the free and the home of the brave" to "the land of the mandated and the home of the over taxed and over regulated"? Come on, we need some details.
    He who hides details, has something to hide. (Red flag, red flag!!)

    • Posted By: Zombiehero @ 02/18/2008 9:19:13 PM

      Agreed. A little more substance would go a long way

  • Posted By: Rapps @ 02/17/2008 9:09:57 AM

    Jon, the real battle between McCain and Obama will be for the hearts and minds of the great American middle class, the tens of millions of folks who aren't staunch Republicans or staunch Democrats, who distrust both parties, and are looking to vote for the man (or woman) who they believe will be the best leader of the country. Your media colleagues rarely discuss this, because it is boring. It's more exciting to talk about superdelegate fights and Latino voting blocs.
    Both candidates have a strong appeal to the middle. McCain has publicly criticized Bush, which gives him a degree of credibility to most voters. HIs war hero background also makes him appealing, especially given the chickenhawks who have dominated the administration for the past eight years. While most of the country has lost all respect for Bush, and no longer take him seriously, most of the country will take McCain seriously, and do have respect for him. The Republicans don't quite realize this yet, but he may be the strongest candidate they could have put up. Their base will fall behind him, which again will make this election about winning the middle.
    Obama's will easily get most of the democratic base and the Hillary voters, the real challenge, just like McCain, will be winning the middle. Obama has two hurdles - first, convince these voters that he has some "gravitas;" and second, convince these voters that he is not too liberal. Regular folks in the burbs like him, and are intrigued by him, but won't commit to him until he eases those concerns. If he directly addresses these concerns, he will be a formidable candidate, no matter what kind of dirt they throw his way.

    • Posted By: Zombiehero @ 02/18/2008 9:16:38 PM

      I agree with you whole heartitly. I think both McCain and Obama will win over some crossovers.. but how many? There are a lot of fiscal conservative Democrats that will move for McCain. Yes McCain is social liberal but will be be as gunho as Bush.. Bush with all his right wing conservative christian base support didn't do a whole lot changing the social spectrum... the Late Term Abortion Ban... big deal. I think McCain will have more to think about than that.
      Obama will win his Obamacans since even they will want some change. But I think the advantage goes to McCain. Like you said its for the MIddle class independants. In a McCain vs Obama race... for me and a lot of those middle class independants... it will go to experience

  • Posted By: politically incorrect @ 02/17/2008 2:52:31 PM

    Sen. Obama may belong to a black nationalist church today, but during his four years in a secular Indonesian school, his religion was listed in the school records as muslim (the religion of his step-father), whether he was actually a muslim or not. People have a right to know these things, especially given the fact that the junior senator from Illinois boasts so often about how his upbringing oversees has had such a profound impact on his foreign policy world-view.

    Is the fact that Sen. Obama grew up with potential suicide bombers one of the reasons he's so disinclined to challenge them militarily overseas? (Isn't it DISGUSTING and HATEFUL when people with common sense put two and two together?)

    • Posted By: thosfiore @ 02/18/2008 1:24:41 AM

      I guess it's ok in your book to be racist towards Muslims. There are millions of Muslims in the US, many of whom are serving honorably in our armed forces. Senator Obama spend a few years when he was very young in the Indonesia but that does as much to make him a Muslim as the five years that McCain spent in North Vietnam makes him a Communist. What the time he has spent overseas does do for Obama is give him an insight into the rest of the world that may elude folks like you who have spent their time wearing sheets and burning crosses.

      • Posted By: Zombiehero @ 02/18/2008 9:10:01 PM

        The Muslim thing is stupid and moot. The fringe that are going to fall for that line should be cleaned from the gene pool anyway. These would be the same people that would attack an Athiest canidate because he has no biblical morals.. guess what the bible doesn't have a patent on everything... what about all the thousands of Christian suicide bomber...(think Ireland and Serbia for a few recent examples).

  • Posted By: TraceyJ @ 02/17/2008 9:23:39 PM

    We are in the midst of an Iraq Recession / Malaise, call it what you want. We will not be able to do what needs to be done to rebuild THIS country and OUR economy until we are out of IRAQ!! It is criminal the resources that have been squandered and stolen over in Iraq. McCain wants a pat on the back and credit for supporting a surge in Iraq? Why didn't he support all the generals and Colin Powell when Powell put forth his doctrine of going in with overwhelming force and not going in without an exit strategy. But like all the generals and experts who told the Bushies that we needed more troops, Powell was let go. I didn't hear McCain saying anything then. He comes up with this so-called surge strategy 5 years later afetr thousands of troopsdean and billions of dollars wasted. The Powell strategy warmed over, putting lipstick on the pig. Thanks Se. McCain, 5 yrs too late.

    • Posted By: Zombiehero @ 02/18/2008 9:04:23 PM

      So your criticism McCain because he wasn't in charge of the war from the get go? I really don't understand your position. Yes BUSH is at fault. How can you criticize McCain for supporting a WORKING strategy. Yes I was against the war at first and still am...but we are there...we need to get out but we need to get out safely for both US and Iraq. I agree Bush has squandered resources and money for the last 6 years but McCain isn't Bush.

  • Posted By: Southern Bell @ 02/18/2008 8:47:30 AM

    What the hell is that supposed to mean "unless of them happens to be a woman"?

    Look, if you in the media want to start examaning Obama's character indepth, do it now, at the same time you're falling all over yourselves praising his virtues.

    Yes, Obama has strengths, but so does Hillary Clinton. But you in the press have only been interested in portraying her in negative tones while at the same time offering love poems to media darlings McCain and Obama.

    I find Newsweeks anti-Clinton bias disgusting.

    • Posted By: Zombiehero @ 02/18/2008 8:59:14 PM

      I agree... Hill has the experience to get what needs to be done...done.

  • Posted By: Steelerhawk47 @ 02/18/2008 7:34:51 PM

    I think that Hillary's problem is she is a great manager...someone who can implement someone else's vision. Sheis not in the least inspirational. Right or wrong, inspiration and hope is what the country is currently looking for from a candidate. McCain has some of the same issues as Hillary. Of course he will be tied to the Bush albatross, again, right or wrong.

  • Posted By: MikeIL @ 02/18/2008 4:34:30 PM

    Obama is twisting words. What McCain actually said was he did not care if US forces were in Iraq for 100 years, so long as we are not taking casualties.
    Obama is wholey unqualified to be commander-in-chief and his stament only re-inforces that fact.

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