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  • Posted By: nadeem.ahmed@xwave.com @ 02/19/2008 9:40:15 AM

    From Wikipedia:

    Clinton has been criticized for not giving credit to a ghostwriter in connection with It Takes a Village. The majority of the book was reportedly written by ghostwriter Barbara Feinman. When the book was first announced in April 1995, The New York Times reported publisher Simon & Schuster as saying ???The book will actually be written by Barbara Feinman, a journalism professor at Georgetown University in Washington. Ms. Feinman will conduct a series of interviews with Mrs. Clinton, who will help edit the resulting text.???

    Feinman spent seven months on the project and was paid $120,000 for her work. Feinman, however, was not mentioned anywhere in the book???.

    During her promotional tour for the book, Clinton said, ???I actually wrote the book ??? I had to write my own book because I want to stand by every word.??? Clinton stated that Feinman assisted in interviews and did some editorial drafting of ???connecting paragraphs???, while Clinton herself wrote the final manuscript in longhand.

    This led Feinman to complain at the time to Capitol Style magazine over the lack of acknowledgement.[12] In 2001, The Wall Street Journal reported that ???New York literary circles are buzzing with vitriol over Sen. Clinton???s refusal, so far, to share credit with any writer who helps on her book.???

    Later, in a 2002 article for The Writer???s Chronicle, Barbara Feinman Todd (now using her married name) related that the project with Clinton had gone smoothly, producing drafts in a round-robin style. Feinman agrees that Clinton was involved with the project, but also states that, ???Like any first lady, Mrs. Clinton had an extremely hectic schedule and writing a book without assistance would have been logistically impossible.???

    Feinman reiterates that her only objection to the whole process was the lack of any acknowledgement. A 2005 Georgetown University web page bio for Barbara Feinman Todd states that It Takes a Village was one of ???several high-profile books??? that she has ???assisted, as editor, writer and researcher.???

  • Posted By: JAlemar @ 02/19/2008 9:35:48 AM

    Obama is a creature built by the media. He is too naive and at the same time a dreamer that want to bring us hope. For how long we are going to keep hoping? We don't need hope what we need is a solution. If you want to continue hoping without result vote for Obama if you real changes and solutions vote for Hillary

  • Posted By: D. Affiliated @ 02/19/2008 9:34:08 AM

    This line about Obama being all speeches and no substance is the biggest farce of this campaign. Like I said earlier, 1) she even concedes that their plans are about 95% the same on the issues which would have to mean that 95% of her proposed solutions are also non-existent and 2) she herself hasn't solved anything or accomplished anything in her own Political career. She talks about Obama borrowing her ideas, Obama is the one to introduce the idea of tax incentives for companies who invest in research and development in America and that keep the newly create jobs right here, yet Clinton has recently picked up on this idea. Number one, that shows that Obama really DOES have substance and also, it's an example of her actually borrowing HIS ideas. I've read that Obama and Clinton actually worked on part of their respective Economic plans together in the Senate, so it's highly deceptive of her to come along and claim that he is "borrowing" her ideas.

  • Posted By: 1sprigg @ 02/19/2008 9:27:51 AM

    everybody wants to blame somebody when things are going badly. no way is this the fault of the clintons and their past scandalous behavior. if the clintons were not involved with so many scandals they would not be getting so much negative press. people need to stop crying and complaining of some sort of unfairness. They brought it on themselves!! The media could be a lot worst, they never brought up whitewater, filegate, travelgate, ron brown, ken starr, military being reduced by 500,000, an absent foreign policy, and Rwanda in which 800,000 people were killed in three months. no other candidate has so much negative history, even john mccain who is a political dinosaur has kept a cleaner image. This is why america is in such bad shape, nobody want to take responsibility for their actions.

  • Posted By: Bibi/texas @ 02/19/2008 8:43:09 AM

    Obama took his friend word. That's all he has for him. And the media said no big deal. If it were Hillary the media would have crucified her. Very biased!!!!

    • Posted By: Jacob Davis @ 02/19/2008 8:49:42 AM

      "Ready from Day One" and "Fired up and Ready to go" were lifted by Clinton. Her campaign refused to deny that she hasn't used rhetoric from her friends or colleagues. They all have speech writers.

      • Posted By: lamm01 @ 02/19/2008 9:27:06 AM

        They were lifted from her own husband. That's a little different from a man who can only speak the words of dead presidents, dead civil right leaders and ineffective Governors of Massachusetts.

  • Posted By: a brighter America 08 @ 02/19/2008 1:45:57 AM

    LaFit, The Clintons and their campaign have dug deep and have found nothing of consequence. Don't you remember they even checked his kindergarten records? Unlike the Clintons, Mr. Obama as a very clean record. The Clintons brought us scandal after scandal, investigation after investigation; through it all, they lied and lied and lied and got away with crime. Please google "The Clinton Chronicles" free audio. We do not want these shysters back in the White House. Hillary is NOT fit to be President!! She LACKS HONESTY, INTEGRITY, GOOD JUDGEMENT, GOOD CHARACTER, WISDOM, STABILITY, LEADERSHIP SKILLS, MANAGEMENT SKILLS AND THE ABILITY TO UNITE. She has run a disorganized campaign with loose cananons in her aides, campaign managers, and Bill with his diarrhiea of the mouth and uncontrolled temper. (By the way, he popped someone in the mouth today!! ) Hillary HAS PROVEN SHE LACKS ALL OF THESE ATTRIBUTES AND HAS PROVEN SHE IS NOT FIT TO BE PRESIDENT!!

    • Posted By: JAlemar @ 02/19/2008 9:26:22 AM

      sure no one found nothing, yes nothing that can be of interest. because there is nothing he really did with any substance. Obama play safe all his time as he did in Illinois by saying present when roll call 130 times. He is in love with himself and all speeches and poetry.
      A vote for Obama will be vote for submission.

  • Posted By: lamm01 @ 02/19/2008 9:25:13 AM

    I am deeply disturbed by those affiliated with the Obama campaign have stated in the press recently. On Face The Nation, Mayor Wilder stated that if Obama does not win, there will rioting in the streets which will make the 1968 Convention and Watts riots look mild in comparison. Is this the man who claims to be bringing the nation together but blackmailing and using fearmongering..... Also, to date, Senator Obama has dished out nearly a million dollars in funds to buy the votes from Superdelegates. So, let me get this straight, if he can't win on his own merits, he's threatening violence or buying the election. After all, we know he can not speak for himself. Unless something was said by someone else, he's impotent.

    As for the media, you guys are pathetic. You're supposed to informing the American people. To date, all you have is provided a one sided, biased and flagrant annointing of this "man who walks on water". You should be ashamed of yourselves.

    I look forward to the day that it's revealed that your phrophet has developed feet of clay. I only hope it's before he brings this nation to it's knees.

    As for Senator Clinton, I aske that she does not give up. Millions of people are supporting her and her campaign.

  • Posted By: mariela123 @ 02/19/2008 9:16:29 AM

    I'm wondering why very little has been reported by the press about the recent findings of the New York elections. According to a tiny article buried in my local paper, several precincts in New York, many of which were made up of largely black population, recorded not even one vote for Obama. The election committee are apparently examining the electronic voting machines, but the results could take weeks. WEEKS?! I think this is a much bigger deal than trivial accusations of plagiarism.

  • Posted By: D. Affiliated @ 02/19/2008 9:13:16 AM

    Another thing, no one is looking at past efforts to control the media through intimidation and manipulation. There was a story about strife in the Clinton campaign back in September that Hillary Clinton got buried by saying that she would cut off all access to Bill Clinton if (I believe) ABC ran the story. It seems pretty hypocritial for her to be complaining about press coverage when she herself doesn't seem to believe in freedom of the press. Maybe that's why there's acrimony towards the Clintons.

  • Posted By: cbaker31222 @ 02/19/2008 9:00:37 AM

    Besides this gross media bias and complete failure to look at anything Obama has done (if he has actually done anything), I'm tired of hearing from Caroline Kennedy, Maria Shriver and Senator Claire McCaskill that their teen children convinced them to support Obama.

    Excuse me? Since when do we put our nation's fate in the hands of uninformed children? How irresponsible and absurd. At least we didn't fall for it here in California. Thank God.

    • Posted By: D. Affiliated @ 02/19/2008 9:08:26 AM

      What has Hillary actually done? Taking both their legislative records and comparing them side by side, Obama has clearly done a lot more than Hillary.

  • Posted By: sesanders @ 02/17/2008 3:05:44 PM

    If the press is so interested in digging into the personal record, why don't they do a little digging now into Obama while Americans still have a choice as to who should be the front runner for the Democrats. I am sick of having the neophyte, Obama, praised and shined up by the media. Americans in huge numbers want an experienced person to take the White House. There is simply no way Obama is going to win against McCain.
    The petty arguments of old between the press and the Clintons should not be allowed to damage Democratic chances to gain the White House. Voters could care less about press grievances against the Clintons. We need to go in a different direction than the last seven years and Hillary will take us down a new
    path. Obama will not appeal to middle class Americans the way he does to the youth and the black community whose overwhelming support have driven up his numbers in the Democratic primaries. When all of America votes, they are going to go for an experienced, well-known candidate who represents a moderate stance. That will be McCain, not Obama. If Hillary is the candidate, the picture changes. She has broader appeal and is superbly experienced.

    • Posted By: Calvin67 @ 02/17/2008 3:26:29 PM

      Superbly Experienced??? Can you please give me one of her accomplishments since she has been a Senator? No one else has seems to be able to do this. Again, Please explain her Superb Experience, or is it just her trying to get herself amd her husband out of all of their Scandals!??!

      • Posted By: Legal29201 @ 02/17/2008 3:36:48 PM

        So she won reelection to the United States Senate with 67% of the vote. I don't know. My guess is she won by that margin by doing something more than just showing up and voting "present" everyday. Since no one can tell you what she has done as a senator, please go to hollaryclinton.com and check out the tab "Senator" under "Hillary." If you seriously want to know, you can find out there (and don't have to sign up on the web site to find out).

        • Posted By: D. Affiliated @ 02/19/2008 9:02:34 AM

          My god you really are an idiot, winning re-election is not an "accomplishment" and if it is, then Obama has one up on her because he actually did it twice. He's been much more active in his first year in the Senate than Hillary was and her legislative accomplishments don't even begin to compare to his when taken in total.

      • Posted By: sparky716 @ 02/17/2008 4:13:08 PM

        hey calvin67 can you please give me one of obama's accomplishments.....

        • Posted By: Calvin67 @ 02/17/2008 4:18:27 PM

          What, is there a problem? Could you not come up with an answer with one of her accomplishments, wow, there's a surprise!! Do you know how dumb it makes you look when you follow-up a question with a question to defer answering it!??!
          I would belittle your tactics more, but it just shows how uneducated and unknowledgeable Clinton SUpporters are! I Thank-You for proving this point to the entire forum and really the world. Please keep posting as this will help support getting any other candidate elected other than Hillary! Much Appreciated!!

  • Posted By: Wondering? @ 02/17/2008 2:45:53 PM

    Sorry, I am not an idiot. I have a Master of Science degree and 30 years of successful experience in my field. I have read that he used to go by a different last name also.--And this is a question that I was wanting a true answer to not yours obviously.

    • Posted By: D. Affiliated @ 02/17/2008 2:51:01 PM

      "I am not an idiot"

      Well, you're saying REALLY idiotic things that aren't even factually accurate--so, you could have fooled us. I've been told that the Clintons are responsible for Vince Foster's death, I guess that's true to.

      • Posted By: Legal29201 @ 02/17/2008 2:58:31 PM

        You imply that someone is an idiot, and end your comment with, "I guess that's true to"? That should be, "I guess that's true too." IDIOT!

        • Posted By: D. Affiliated @ 02/17/2008 3:01:18 PM

          Oh yea, a simple typo makes someone an idiot. Poor judgment and poor reasoning skills make someone and idiot, IDIOT!

          • Posted By: Legal29201 @ 02/17/2008 3:09:15 PM

            Sorry dude. That is not a simple typo. That's stupidity. A typo occurs when one incorrectly spells a word. You called someone an idiot and OBVIOUSLY do not know the difference between "to" and "too". IDIOT. Oh yeah, voting "present" on over 100 bills while in the Illinois senate makes someone else an idiot TOO.

            • Posted By: D. Affiliated @ 02/19/2008 8:59:59 AM

              "That is not a simple typo. That's stupidity. A typo occurs when one incorrectly spells a word. You called someone an idiot and OBVIOUSLY do not know the difference between "to" and "too". IDIOT"

              So now you're a mind reader you frickin idiot? You said that a typo occurs when one incorrectly spells a word, well that's exactly what the hell happened. I know what the hell I did, I'm the one who did it! And you prove that YOU'RE the idiot once again; saying that someone is an idiot for voting "present" is a specious argument becomes it presumes to know what was going on in that person's head. You have yet to show anything in either case where you claim that I or Obama are idiots that shows faulty reasoning. Voting "present" is a regularly used tactic in the Illinois legislature, and he did so in a concerted effort to get through legislation. A closer look at each vote and the circumstances and the strategy behind it would be required to determine whether or not that shows faulty judgment, but it in no way in and of itself shows faulty reasoning. Idiot.

      • Posted By: Legal29201 @ 02/17/2008 3:00:20 PM

        You suggest that someone is an idiot and end your comment with, "I guess that's true to"? That should be, "I guess that's true too." IDIOT.

        • Posted By: Calvin67 @ 02/17/2008 4:11:58 PM

          Yea, that's what this is all about proper gramatics and sentence structure. Must be a Clinton fan in that you're trying to turn attention from the issues with some non-relevant info!!!

    • Posted By: markci @ 02/17/2008 2:49:52 PM

      You have no idea what you read or where you read it. His name is and always has been BARACK OBAMA. That is the true answer.

      There are a plenty of idiots with master's degrees.

  • Posted By: cbaker31222 @ 02/19/2008 8:58:03 AM

    I noticed this site has scrubbed clean all posts referring to Obama's drug use and infidelity (allegedly) during his time as State Senator. We're not talking marijuana here, we're talking crack. This needs to be looked into, but probably won't because it doesn't fit with the fictionaly saintly image the media has created for St. Obama. I'm not buying it, sorry.

  • Posted By: daveski996 @ 02/19/2008 8:53:00 AM

    Obama has received a free ride from the media because of the fear of being perceived as being racist. Where are the tough questions? Everytime someone questions anything about his primary wins (South Carolina comparison to Jesse Jackson) they start crying the media is unfair. No one asks Obama about his past use of cocaine. He's bi-racial not black. The African-American population at first was critical that he wasn't "black enough". Do you think the Republicans won't ask these questions. He's a cheerleader not a leader. He'll never survive the heat of the General Election campaign and then people will comment "I didn't vote for him". Wake up!

  • Posted By: terry86 @ 02/19/2008 8:48:33 AM

    I am from Ill. and I feel that the media is electing Mr . Obama .If someone says or does something good for Hillary Clinton it last 5min. in the media . But if something that is out of sorts the media plays it for days .Endorsements is another thing. John Glen endorsed Hillary Clinton you could not find hardly any coverage on it . Kenedy endorsed Obama it is still in play . I'll leave the rest to your thoughts on the if Obama is a media elected candidate

  • Posted By: D. Affiliated @ 02/19/2008 8:47:31 AM

    You people bringing up the Rezko thing do realize that the owner who sold Obama the house has come out and said that Obama simply offered the best deal at the time and there was nothing at all shady or underhanded about the transaction right?

    http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601103&sid=a_9sOMpy91Js&refer=us

    I know that the Clintons are trying their best to dig up dirt (as is their usual slimy approach to politics) but so much for the Rezko thing. Sorry.

  • Posted By: jasoninpa10 @ 02/18/2008 9:50:43 AM

    Besides the fact that I find it annoying Newsweek calls supporters of Clinton "minions," I must say Obama has gotten more than a free ride by the media. He has gotten an endorsement by their constant negativity toward everything Clinton. I used to enjoy the news and would keep it on news pretty much all day. I simply cannot watch anymore; the degree to which Chris Matthews, Joe Scarborough, Tucker Carlson on Msnbc; Jack Cafferty, Gloria Borger; Donna Brazile, etc on Cnn; Abc news go to over sensationalize Obama is simply grotesque. It wreaks of injustice. The media is selling this candidate to the public. While I'm not usually one for conspiracy's I must say that I believe that the media is trying to get him the nomination because he is more beatable than Clinton. The Republicans are picking the Democratic nominee for us, via Karl Rove plotting. If Clinton loses, it truly willbe because of the media.

    • Posted By: sharbob @ 02/19/2008 8:44:13 AM

      I completely agree with you. I support Hillary Clinton and I am well educated. I saw this bias from the beginning and did not fall for it. The press has pulled the wool over so many people's eyes it's unreal. I do believe Karl Rove is having a field day with Ohama's ride to the Democratic nomination. Unbelievable! He will be out in no time because he simiply has nothing inside of him and cannot make the changes he is promising.

    • Posted By: RetiredMarine @ 02/18/2008 10:35:09 AM

      where was your outcry when the media supported Clinton? Yes I think Minions is the correct word...

  • Posted By: EruKhan @ 02/18/2008 12:11:35 PM

    How has Barack been given a free pass. Since he began his run, Fox and many pundits have broke untrue stories about him being a muslim, going to a madrazza, and questioning his loyalty to the country. Where is the free pass there? This week their calling obama supporters cult members. Face facts: Hillary and the media don't meld well because the Clintons are a political firery trainwreck and the press are the bystanders with cameras on hand. Hillary just got a man suspended from his job for making comments about Chealse. She is over 26 years old! Her mommy writes a letter to MSNBC, puts the pressure on and fixes everything. A young journalist is out of work because Hillary hates free speech. Britney Spear's mom should start writing letters to news stations, I wonder why she hasn't already. Maybe because her daughter is an adult. I'd say the Clintons are "Pimping out" their daughter, people get a free show at a mall foodcourt, but when a reporter asks questions old Pimpdaddy HillBill Clinton smacks them pressboys upside their heads with their pimpcanes.

    • Posted By: Dixiechick @ 02/19/2008 8:43:28 AM

      You have the foulest mouth I have ever seen in print. Even men don't say the things you say. You seem to love saying what you think is a shock treatment,but nothing surprises me anymore. I almost expect it. When your argument has no basis your first impulse is to attack with vulger remarks.
      I hope you don't have any daughters who will learn that language from you.I do hope that if you do have daughters you will come to her defense should the need arise. That's what parents are for regardless of age.Believe it or not,men don't like women to talk like truckers.

  • Posted By: Day24Day7 @ 02/19/2008 8:41:34 AM

    Dee Dee Myers (Former Press Secretary for President Clinton) speaks in a PBS Interview about Mrs. Clinton. Search: PBS, Clinton Years. There are alot of Clinton Staffers who speak about her and the former President. Once you read this ... You may not want Mrs. Clinton for President after all.

    Q: Were people afraid of her? Were people afraid to speak out against her?

    A: Yeah. And I think because not only would she sort of humiliate you in front of your colleagues or whoever happened to be around. It wasn't like she did it every day. I found that she wasn't the most direct person. Although that was very direct, that to me was the exception rather than the rule. Hillary tended to kind of campaign against people behind their back, and that was certainly my experience. She was not happy with me, but she never confronted me. She never had a conversation with me about it. She would go call Leon in and yell at him and then he'd have to call me in and say, "Mrs. Clinton is really upset about X. You said Y, and she disagrees with that, and you know, she wants you to fix it," or whatever. As opposed to her picking up the phone and calling me. Sometimes it's appropriate, I think, to go through the chief of staff because it's the chain of command. Maybe she's talking to him about six things and one of them is me. But there were times when I thought she should have dealt with me directly and she didn't.

    ...I didn't respect that. If you have a problem with me or anybody else, it doesn't mean she shouldn't try achieve whatever outcome she wanted to achieve. But I think there is a certain grace and I just think it's a bit better politics and personnel management to be direct

  • Posted By: Day24Day7 @ 02/19/2008 8:37:11 AM

    Does American really know Mrs. Clinton? DEE DEE Myers Does (Former President Clinton Press Secretary) Does. Read What She Says in the PBS Interview. Just Google: PBS Clinton Years. There Are Numerous Interviews With Many Clinton Staffers. Read It For Yourself and See If This is the Person You Really Want in the White House.


    Q: Were people afraid of her? Were people afraid to speak out against her?

    A: Yeah. And I think because not only would she sort of humiliate you in front of your colleagues or whoever happened to be around. It wasn't like she did it every day. I found that she wasn't the most direct person. Although that was very direct, that to me was the exception rather than the rule. Hillary tended to kind of campaign against people behind their back, and that was certainly my experience. She was not happy with me, but she never confronted me. She never had a conversation with me about it. She would go call Leon in and yell at him and then he'd have to call me in and say, "Mrs. Clinton is really upset about X. You said Y, and she disagrees with that, and you know, she wants you to fix it," or whatever. As opposed to her picking up the phone and calling me. Sometimes it's appropriate, I think, to go through the chief of staff because it's the chain of command. Maybe she's talking to him about six things and one of them is me. But there were times when I thought she should have dealt with me directly and she didn't.

    ...I didn't respect that. If you have a problem with me or anybody else, it doesn't mean she shouldn't try achieve whatever outcome she wanted to achieve. But I think there is a certain grace and I just think it's a bit better politics and personnel management to be direct



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