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  • Posted By: perplexed1919 @ 02/20/2008 10:48:15 PM

    igor; I am as a geographer interested in only solving a question what intensity of a magnifying glass shall be needed to pick a destination on the map of Europe? Signed as a little perplexed.

  • Posted By: Serb Soldier 21 @ 02/20/2008 12:44:42 PM

    1389- Serbia was only Kosovo.This 1389 Serbia lost Kosovo-Serbia,when Turks win in the battle on Kosovo polje(polje-field) .We loss are country in that 1389,but 500 years later we are fight back for are country and we win in that revolution.THAT WILL HAPPEN AGAIN,BUT THIS TIME WE NOT WAIT 500 HUNDREDS YEAR:)SERBIA IS MUCH BETTER COUNTRY THAN PEOPLE IN AMERICA AN THE REST OF THE WORLD THINKS...BUSH ADMINISTRATION IS POOR EVIL,OBAMA WINS IN THIS ELECTION THAN AMERICA BECOME FRIEND OF SERBIA,I AM SURE:)))IF YOU WANT TO NOW HOW PEOPLE FROM SERBIA SEE THIS INDEPENDENCE OF KOSOVO,I TELL YOU: Imagine that you live in small house and you have 3 rooms!Than imagine that police 9 years ago,trash your house because you are accuse for something that is not true,now 100% sure that that kilings are falls.Than 2004 that police still live in your house and only protect people different nations(albanian),and than where real ethning cleaning happend,no one was protect other nations in that room (Serbs).NOW THAT ROOM IS NOT YOURS THAT ROOM IS DECLARE INDEPENDENCE!!!!!!!!!!!!That 2004 albanians burn houndreds and thousands church and houses...and now they don't won't to live with serbs anymore...NOOOOOOOOOOOO SERBS DON'T WON'T TO LIVE WITH CRIMINALS AND TIEFS,THIS IS OUR COUNTRY AND WHEN SERBS BACK IN THERE HOUSES,THAN IN SERBIA-KOSOVO LIVE MUCH LESS ALBANIANS>>>INFORMATION---ON KOSOVO LIVES 400,000 ALBANIANS HO HAVE 18 YEARS ARE MORE,THE REST IS THERE CHILDREN!!!EVERYTHING ON THIS COMMENT IS ABSOLUT TRUE,greatings from Serbia-KOSOVO IS SERBIA,FOREVER

    • Posted By: Galica @ 02/20/2008 9:35:15 PM

      You suffered for 9 years, and for how many years did albanian suffer form serbians? Kosovo was serbia? really when in your dreams? Serbs are slavic, russian gypsis, albanians are ilirians. Kosovo and albania were one country divided by serbia. Are you high because you are having nightmares, seeing the faces of the albanians that you have killed. I lived in kosovo I know what serbian solders did, I sill have nightmares about them. Denying your crimes is not going to help you, take a responsibility for your actions

    • Posted By: ninoo @ 02/20/2008 2:08:00 PM

      Serb soldier 21
      Obama fully supports Kosovo???s independence. He mentioned that many times... Every leader and nation in this world is doing it???s bees to be friends with Serbia to take you in to the real democratic world. The problem is with you guys (not all Serbs, I had few actually calling me to congratulate me on Kosovo???s independence). Wake up b4 it is to late or your dream turns into a nightmare.

    • Posted By: TonyM @ 02/20/2008 1:04:17 PM

      400,000 albanians, WOW, your own press says 2 million albanian. Please keep us posted with the news in the ground as CNN/BBC is telling us "lies". And make sure you do not beat your own policeman who do their jobs by protecting foreing embassies. And careful when you set border posts in fire, depending the way the winds go, it might burn your house. But you will be fine as there will be no frontline this time. How come everyone wants to leave Serbia? First Slovenia, then Croatia, then Bosnia & Macedonia, even Montenegro where half are serbs? And now Kosovo? A big pride? Would it even feel better if you had kosova? Would Serbians lives be better? Enjoy life there.

      • Posted By: ninoo @ 02/20/2008 1:54:27 PM

        serb soldier21..
        You do not need a passport to travel inside your own country, do you? I tell you what you will need one to travel to Republic of Kosovo. How is that possible, if Kosovo is Serbia like you say?

  • Posted By: bibiki @ 02/20/2008 6:30:34 PM

    so, Kosova is the heart of Serbia, right? well then, what does that make Belgrade? It's peni***??? just kidding... i am a Kosovar Albanian, and have nothing in common with gypsies, but i think the entire world is very unjust towards them. everybody thinks of them as inferior, but let me tell you this: one of the most inteligent persons that i have shared ideas with was a gypsy from bulgaria. plus, i worked with them in Prishtina and they proved to be very well capable of being honest. I know they did a lot of bad things in Mitrovica, even the ones that were actually economically supported by Albanians, but that does not make them all bad... their problem is lack of education. with a better education, gypsies would have been just as good as anybody can be. peace out, free Kosova, free world!!!

    • Posted By: bora @ 02/20/2008 8:42:21 PM

      I agree that gypsies are abused and put on side. They deserve more and their main problem now is mind set. God help them.

  • Posted By: ninoo @ 02/20/2008 6:12:49 PM

    Cu da te pisam na tai krv doesntmatter. You should understand this to...

    • Posted By: bora @ 02/20/2008 6:44:25 PM

      Guys, we should argue but not to swear. You have some facts, we have some facts. Why we can not talk?

      • Posted By: ninoo @ 02/20/2008 6:54:49 PM

        If you see both my postings were directed to "doesntmatter", not to all the Serbs

        • Posted By: bora @ 02/20/2008 8:34:40 PM

          Thank you for clarifying this.

  • Posted By: bora @ 02/20/2008 2:30:18 PM

    We do not hate Albanians, they hate us. We offer them numerous of times to live with us in piece but they choose terror way. They want independent country so they freely can make cocaine, heroin, LSD etc. With Muslim part of Bosnia it is largest terrorist camp in Europe.

    • Posted By: kosovare girl @ 02/20/2008 7:21:20 PM

      Bora - you dont know anything about KOSOVA how can you say we hate Serbs when your president Millosheviq closed all the schools in Kosova students were attennding hous schooling couple hours a day, all the job positions were eliminated and serbs were coming from Serbia in to Kosova to take those positions... I grew up with serbian people they were next door to me and i dont hate them i just hate what Millosheviq did to innocent people women and childern.. you just have to admit the truth..I'm glad that Kosovars were not stupid to sit there and do nothing...

    • Posted By: doesntmatter @ 02/20/2008 2:36:12 PM

      Bora, they don't want to admit that they think they are like Europe and US they are couple of centuries behind.

      • Posted By: JJJJJ @ 02/20/2008 3:05:06 PM

        What's funny is that you all are "a couple of centuries behind" yet one race thinks he is better than the other.

        I don't get it with you fools - you are all ignorant villagers, shepards, unemployed and uneducated yet you think you are somehow better.

        The world is so much bigger than little Serbia and Kosovo yet through your pride you think you are the next Roman Empire.

        One piss ant calling another piss ant names. Pathetic.

  • Posted By: doesntmatter @ 02/20/2008 3:01:12 PM

    JJJJ: didn't US support Bin Laden years ago, upss I guess they did.
    Didn't Bin Laden attack US? ups he did.
    Shut up and pay your taxes so US can help poor Albanian people,
    and sooner or later you will see your tax dollar at work, when they hit you again, but just don't cry than be as strong and smart as you are now.

    • Posted By: kosovare girl @ 02/20/2008 7:07:53 PM

      OMG doesntmatter you are here 24/7 arguing.. LAZY ..are the food stamps anough for you.. dont you serbs know how to take atventage of another country, that's what you did in Kosova..ha ha.. but NO more. learn how to like ALBANIANS cuz sooner or later you going to need our help ... so time for you to start and show some respect!!!

  • Posted By: doesntmatter @ 02/20/2008 3:02:02 PM

    JJJJ: didn't US support Bin Laden years ago, upss I guess they did.
    Didn't Bin Laden attack US? ups he did.
    Shut up and pay your taxes so US can help poor Albanian people,
    and sooner or later you will see your tax dollar at work, when they hit you again, but just don't cry than be as strong and smart as you are now.

    • Posted By: kosovare girl @ 02/20/2008 6:59:45 PM

      doesntmatter -did you know that Bin Laden and Millosheviq use to be best freinds?

    • Posted By: JJJJJ @ 02/20/2008 3:16:22 PM

      The U.S. supported the fight against the Soviet Union. You know - the communists, the communists who oppressed you under Tito.

      Yes, Bin Laden was there fighting the Soviet Union too and yes the U.S. made a big mistake by under estimating him.

      You see, Americans look at history, admit their errors, and work for a better future. The U.S. policy is with good intentions but not perfect. However, Americans are not prideful, admit errors, and work for a better future.

      You, an the other hand, cry and scream about ancient history - 800 years is a LONG TIME to hold a grudge, which explains why people like you in the Balkains are centuries behind the rest of the world.

      I am sure some of the U.S. "tax dollars" hurt your pride back in the 1990s :)

      • Posted By: doesntmatter @ 02/20/2008 3:26:41 PM

        "Yes, Bin Laden was there fighting the Soviet Union too and yes the U.S. made a big mistake by under estimating him."
        Don't you learn from history? I guess not, just do me a favor and go watch NFL or go shopping, that's pretty much only thing Americans do good.




        • Posted By: JJJJJ @ 02/20/2008 3:30:54 PM

          Just stated we did...........not sure what your tirade is all about this time. I guess you want to watch the NFL? The Superbowl happened 2 weeks ago.........the season over...........get with the program.......do you hate football and shopping too?

          • Posted By: doesntmatter @ 02/20/2008 4:08:06 PM

            No, we don't we kill Albanians in our spare time

        • Posted By: JJJJJ @ 02/20/2008 3:35:21 PM

          Oh yeah, the US and NATO kicked butt in the 1990s. Winning is something else we are "good at" besides watching football and shopping. It is fun to toy with Balkain pride. I bet you are blowing your fuse :)

  • Posted By: bora @ 02/20/2008 4:28:46 PM

    Guys, you are so far from the Lord that you would be amazed if you would be able to see that. You are not guilty, demons blind you. Your deeds are showing that. Lord said that wolfs in sheep???s clothing will come and they will be recognized by their deeds. Bombing civilian targets 78 days (killing 90 kids) and calling that mission ???merciful angel??? is thru hypocrisy. Demons are pushing you to bomb your brothers in Christ. That is shame. Again we don???t hate anyone. God will judge to all of us. Are you ready?

    • Posted By: JJJJJ @ 02/20/2008 5:05:56 PM

      Why do you bring God into the wars of mankind? All of this hate is from the devil and not God. God is above the killings you fixate on. God is not on either side of your pathetic, little squabbles. God does not tell Albanians and Serbs or anyone else to kill. You kill because of your hate and your PRIDE....yes, your Balkain PRIDE. Proud of what? Proud of your hate! Proud because your the biggest victim of your endless, self absorbed hate! Hate everything!

      The Lord Jesus will wipe away all hate someday - from your enemies and from you. Amen.

      • Posted By: kosovare girl @ 02/20/2008 6:54:18 PM

        JJJJJ -i think serbs and arabs from middle eastern should all get togedher and go to hell!!!! This people they dont beleve in any GOD they have no humen feelings they are sick in their hads.!!!

  • Posted By: bora @ 02/20/2008 6:27:22 PM

    American movie about break up of Yugoslavia. Don't forget that James Baker, US secretary was strongly against Yugoslavia break up. But new united Germany that tasted power again decited that chalenge US. You will find him in this video as well.
    Part 1: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5860186121153047571
    Part2: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6371060303901674397

    Again, please watch and then we can discuss. I like discussion but discussion has to be backed up with facts and historical proofs.

    Best regards too all of you. God bless America, God bless Serbia. Lord said: Love each other as I love you. Son of God was crucified for our sins. We shouldn't crucify him again.

    I love you all.

  • Posted By: bora @ 02/20/2008 6:20:43 PM

    Guys for all of you, please read or watch something before we continue to talk.
    I will send you several links. Spend 5 sec. and look just at the front pages, nothing else.
    http://www.newsweek.com/id/112945/output/comments
    http://www.kosovo.net/default1.html
    Book about Kosovo history: http://www.rastko.org.yu/kosovo/istorija/kosovo_chronicles/index.html

  • Posted By: Bardh @ 02/20/2008 5:39:19 PM

    I dont really know why you people got on the debate of Christians vs Muslims...especially you serbs when you know your selfs that are ORTHODOX dont call your self Christians...The other fact is that albanians were Pagans in the veryyy early ages when serbian tribes came from Slovakia and mounatins of Russia, than after Roman invasion that took place over that period of time they became Christians...after that turks came and many of them had to become muslims which led to some others to become orthodox but not directed by serbian churches and greek ones( sorry about this) so the diversity of religions over Albanian land where they live( Macedonia, Serbia,Kosova,Albania and Montenegro) but they never had a single problem with each other they go along with each other and get merried. But srbs are baptised and were baptised by greeks and how many of you have been in greece these past days weeks and months...Easy to get visas right??? Greeks rule your churches and YOU (srbs) but u dont know in fact u dont want to know. By the way Europe has just correct their failure in 1913 ;) and the other one in 1880's. So here Kosova comes...Corruption, Crimes and Mafia are as a result of opression, depression and repression of serbia that didt let any one to work and do anything in the manners of profit and living...so people had to live somehow, some of them went in EU, USA, Canada etc...some of them stood here doing somthing and some others did the dirty jobs usully together with srbs. In that case Albanians were the leaders srbs the followers but ahmm didt do their job well since in their DNA is a hormon that makes them COWARDS.

    • Posted By: bora @ 02/20/2008 6:17:34 PM

      You getting lost. I can't comment anymore to you. www.kosovo.net
      Read something and then we can talk.

    • Posted By: doesntmatter @ 02/20/2008 5:47:21 PM

      So if I loose my job I can blame US and become drug dealer?
      Heheheh you are an idiot, that's the best that you have for the leader of Kosovo?

  • Posted By: Pissed Balkanian @ 02/20/2008 5:49:16 PM

    1989-93 there was idea of united Balkan without borders??? Instead they (the Balkans) were split by the Major players in world geo politics. Why I ask for yet another time the world start to play this obscene game with the Balkans? You know history don???t you? We had been mashed and kicked all the way up to now.

    Someone mentioned Pride, I???m proud to be born in The Balkans, I???m proud to speak 3 languages and understand another 5-6 not counting the dialects. I don???t care about religion as in my neighborhood Muslim, Christian, and Jews always lived fine. What did the politicians in SFRY did like? There were no enough parliaments, not enough glory, nations, and borders. Instead to unite and have e good time, form the Black to the Adriatic Sea. Speaking somehow different languages, yet understanding each other perfectly. We will have to fight yet ones again, for the pleasure of the west. I don???t really care whether you are Albanian, Macedonian, Serb, Croatian, Slovenian or other and who your prophet is. You all read Momo and you all perfectly understand that fighting doesn???t help. Done it more times then any other in the last 150 years, Soo? You have your state and? Your kids have to cross 10 borders, pay for 10 visas, and work in the west for pennies??? is that what you want for your kids? Well enjoy it, because that is what you get. The west will give you the guns to fight and ask you to pay later. I piss on such a freedom.

    One pissed Balkanian on a glass of slivovica and hard salami is cursing at all of you, Balkan politicians for ruining the earth you walk upon. Shame on you all, Orthodox, Catholic, Muslim??? and the rest of the criminals that ruined my home land???I curse your kids to pay for your pride to call yourself patriots, as a patriot is the one who cares about his land and his neighbor. You are not patriots to me. Selling your souls, shame on you all.

    • Posted By: doesntmatter @ 02/20/2008 6:00:46 PM

      Don't blame us US is behind this crap, scared of big Balkan and Russia

      • Posted By: ninoo @ 02/20/2008 6:06:06 PM

        Please don???t cry doesntmatter.

        • Posted By: doesntmatter @ 02/20/2008 6:08:54 PM

          I'm not, but when they attack you, you will

          • Posted By: Pissed Balkanian @ 02/20/2008 6:16:53 PM

            Boy, We Orthodox had history, alphabet, nation, and religion, translated Bible when Catholics burned people for the ability to read and swim. Go shut yourself stupid punk, you going to do nothing, you have no money left, your economy is on verge of collapse.

    • Posted By: JJJJJ @ 02/20/2008 6:10:44 PM

      Good points. Turks, Communists, Austrian-Hungarian Empire, West, East, border countries, people like those posting "don't blame us" or "its not our fault" or "its US fault" - everyone has had a hand in this mess. I understand your frustration. Too bad not everyone else thinks like and is tired of all the hating.

      I bet most people think like you - its always the prideful politicians that screw everything up and zealots like the ones on this website

      Enjoy your glass of slivovica and hard salami. You are the TRUE patriot of the land. Peace.

  • Posted By: doesntmatter @ 02/20/2008 6:09:57 PM

    Last Comment to Albanians: Mars u picku materinu siptarsku

    • Posted By: ninoo @ 02/20/2008 6:16:02 PM

      Last comment to you doesntmatter. Mars u picku materinu serbsku.

  • Posted By: TonyM @ 02/20/2008 5:37:53 PM

    BORA: really brainwashed girl. Albanias got $ from serbs to buy serbian land in Kosovo :) Stories get better. And how about Trepce, who was using its resources for 50 years? Blame it on CNN and BBC. 78 days of bombing? How many days did Serbia bomb Dubrovnik, the mass graves in Bosnia 10's of 1000's dead. Unfortunately, you lose the moral right to compare the Nato bombings with your wars. 1 Million civilian kosovar albanias were forced accross the border in 1999 with almost nothing, many killed. You had Kosova and you lost it to its own people.
    You can understand Milosevic? Unfortunately many did and do and this is why as a nation you are in denial about what is happening? Mass graves in Bosnia and mass executions - nobody believed them until your own TV shows them. Learn from your errors, it will not bring
    back Kosova but it might help you as a nation.

    • Posted By: bora @ 02/20/2008 6:13:32 PM

      First of all I am not girl. Second, I am not brainwashed, at least not much as you are. Please try to avoid such a language and I will try as well.
      You have very little knowledge about former Yugoslavia. It is obvious because you don't know what all resources in Yugoslavia were used by all republics. By the way Trepca is anyway Serbian company on Serbian territory, so what is the problem? Dubrovnik wasn't bombed at all. Croatians were firing from the town and Yugo army fired back. Minor damage.
      All of you good people watch movie (for free), "Yugoslavia, The Avoidable War". Nora Beloff Guardian Editor, Lord Carrington, Peter Maher US Counter-intelligence service, etc. BTW Peter Maher was talking about Dubrovnik issue. Watch, don???t talk on blind and argue if you can???t back up your statements.
      Don???t you know that US allowed to Bosnian Muslims to ???import??? 5,000-7,000 mujahidins from the Middle East. What we could do. To wait until they slaughter our children?! Go to Sky News web site and type BOSNIA. There at two movies: ???The hidden Army of Radical Islam??? and ???Islamic Fighters are Hiding in Europe???. Watch and cry.
      http://video.news.sky.com/skynews/video/

  • Posted By: doesntmatter @ 02/20/2008 6:07:07 PM

    Since you Albanians know all about Serbian history you should know this too:
    Kosovo je vekovima Srpska zemlja, I kad tad krv ce da se lije i Kosovo ce da bude nase.
    KAD TAD

  • Posted By: EDA1 @ 02/20/2008 4:47:57 PM

    The people that claim to know Jesus Christ and be born again here are the worst... JJJJ you are full of prejudice about a nation that you dont know that well and about a history that you have heard stories from one side. As a christian from the Balkans (I am not Serb) I advice you and the other Christ mentioning Albanians/Serbs that you be careful what you say, your posts are becoming full of hidden hate covered with beautiful words, you may not notice but it shows....

    • Posted By: JJJJJ @ 02/20/2008 5:23:15 PM

      I am a Christian and I can certainly well express an opinion. I have studied the various histories of the regions and see that ALL Balkain countries are to blame for the grief at the present.

      As a Christian, yes a BORN AGAIN CHRISTIAN (not born into it but BELIEVING IT) I know that Jesus says to love your neighbor as you love yourself. I don't say any of the love in the Balkains, even though you all are neigbhors.

      I can tell from your post you don't care for born again Christians. I don't really care. Take it up with God. If you all turned towards God and repented of our PRIDEFUL SINS then miracles of love could be worked in the Balkains. Instead, you hang on to centuries of history...........sad. God is so much bigger than your history.

      GIve Jesus a chance. Next time before you hate, subsititue a thought of hate with a thought of the Lord.

      • Posted By: bora @ 02/20/2008 5:50:38 PM

        Man, you don't understand that those guys came from mountans and don't understand your and mind language of Jesus love.

    • Posted By: TonyM @ 02/20/2008 5:30:24 PM

      And where are you from Eda?

  • Posted By: doesntmatter @ 02/20/2008 1:05:06 AM

    Serbian's made huge mistake long time ago when they didn't elect Seselj to be Serbian president.
    We wouldn't even remember anymore who those Albanians were, and we wouldn't discuss this now.
    But I'm not gona worry new Seselj will be born soon, and it will make you all albanians a history.

    • Posted By: ninoo @ 02/20/2008 5:50:34 PM

      If they are born again we will bomb you again to wipe them out???.. Don???t they say that history repeats itself?

  • Posted By: doesntmatter @ 02/20/2008 5:24:45 PM

    Here it is more info about Kosovo new leader.
    this article is written by Croatia and we all know that they are not in favor of Serbs.

    www.javno.com/en/world/clanak.php?id=125467

    US fights in Iraq against Al-Qaeda
    US supports Independent Kosovo (ran by Al-Qaeda members)

    I just don't get it

    • Posted By: bibiki @ 02/20/2008 5:49:07 PM

      i dont get it either... if they fight alqaida somewhere, why would they want to support it here... why would you want to tell us something that you yourself cant grasp? i dont get YOU.

    • Posted By: JJJJJ @ 02/20/2008 5:44:34 PM

      Interesting. Even more compelling is another article on this website that states:

      "As it is the case with the rest of the movie scenarios and stunt staging we witnessed that day, the ???Pentagon incident??? left behind numerous unanswered questions, so the world public is still wondering whether ???Reichstag??? was hit by the Boeing 757-223, or Superman or a flying Dick Cheney.

      Well, we can see that this "news" website just spits on the tragic loss of life on Sept 11 at the US Pentagon. "Reichstag"? Really? And it may not have been hit be a plane? This is just another conspiracy loving, piece of trash website.

      Another worthy news outlet would not have shown so much disrespect for those Americans.

      So, here we have an example of a hate-filled website. Another website to add fuel to the hate that is so common in the Balkains.

      Hate, hate, hate.......................so sad................so much hate.

    • Posted By: TonyM @ 02/20/2008 5:42:01 PM

      You do not get it? At the least, between two extremes, choose the best. Serbia made its choices and so did Kosova. What you and others here do not get is that YOU HAD IT ALL and have LOST it because of your own actions. History will show if it was the right choice. As far as your article, just google serbian crimes, you will find many more.

  • Posted By: bora @ 02/20/2008 4:52:52 PM

    Sorry if I was to rough. It is shocking for me how little you know and understand problem.
    Therefore I concluded that you are blind. And those demons are CNN supporting globalism and false piece-makers.
    Read this, it will be good for you souls.

    http://www.rastko.org.yu/kosovo/istorija/vatanasije-cry.html

    • Posted By: TonyM @ 02/20/2008 5:27:15 PM

      You say you are not Serb, but in your posting you refer WE, Serbs. Where are you from Bora?

      • Posted By: bora @ 02/20/2008 5:48:07 PM

        i am Serbian and not a gril.

  • Posted By: doesntmatter @ 02/20/2008 5:48:02 PM

    Comment: Here it is more info about Kosovo new leader.
    this article is written by Croatia and we all know that they are not in favor of Serbs.

    www.javno.com/en/world/clanak.php?id=125467

    US fights in Iraq against Al-Qaeda
    US supports Independent Kosovo (ran by Al-Qaeda members)

    I just don't get it

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