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  • Posted By: EDA1 @ 02/20/2008 4:49:22 PM

    By the way, if your wife is truly greek minority , she doesnt call herself Albanian but Greek , why are u calling her ALbanian?

    • Posted By: JJJJJ @ 02/20/2008 5:16:40 PM

      She calls herself AMERICAN!

      Your question is lame. What does ethnic makeup have to do with where you are born or nationality? I am an American, does it make any difference if my forefathers lived in Europe, Africa or Asia? Am I any less of a citizen?

      Why do you care if she was once a Greek minority who called herself Albanian? She was an Albanian citizen!

      I do not understand your hate. Does it really matter so much to you the ethnic make-up of each person. Can't you just accept people for who they are on the inside?

  • Posted By: bora @ 02/20/2008 4:47:39 PM

    My dear Kosovo girl got offended?! I know, truth is hurting hard.
    You can write thousands of pages but your deeds you have done in the past are showing who you really are. We did have some mistakes, only and only under Milosevic and only in year 1999. And I can understand Milosevic up to some point because thru many years every day at least one Serbian police officer was killed or injured. Before that Serbia was financially supporting Albanians as well as Serbs. $17 billion Serbia put in Kosovo support and development. But Shiptars (Albanians from Kosovo) abuse that in such a snaky way. They use that money to buy land from old Serbian people frightening them at the same time so they can be sure that elders will sell their properties. Dear American brothers you have no clue whom you are dealing with. It is Devil itself.

  • Posted By: zrak @ 02/20/2008 2:26:03 PM

    P.S. I am also for the peace and love among all people as you dear Vangeli. So why not we live all together , as you said, in autonomous Kosovo within Serbia and care for the prosperity and well-being of all of us. Albanians will forgot what Milosevic did , Serbs will forgot what Albanians did in last 9 years. Is that what you are saying? Or I am bitter again?

    • Posted By: vangeli @ 02/20/2008 4:01:04 PM

      ZRAK....FYI...YOU'D DREAM TO HAVE THE KIND OF EDUCATION THAT I HAVE....I CAN NOT SIT AND WRITE TO YOU ABOUT IT AND HOW MUCH I KNOW THE HISTORY....I HAVE TO WORK..AND ...YET I DO NOT TAKE PRIDE ON MY KNOWLEDGES BUT THE ONLY THING I AM PROUD OF IS JESUS CHRIST MY SAVIOUR....
      ZRAK...YOU STILL SOUND BITTER...JUST LET IT GO...AND HONESTLY I AM NOT SAYING THIS TO YOU JUST FOR ANY REASON...I AM WEAK AS YOU, TOO WE ARE ALL HUMANS...BUT I FIND LIFE AND STRENGHT IN MY FAITH OF JESUS CHRIST WHO SAVED ME...I PRAY THAT YOU BELEIVE IN HIM TOO...
      AND AGAIN...NO INSULT OF YOU OR ANYONE ELSE WILL MAKE MY HEART BITTER....I STILL LOVE YOU....

  • Posted By: vangeli @ 02/20/2008 3:34:00 PM

    JJJJ..BROTHER....THE LIGHT OF THE LORD JESUS CHRIST IS IN YOU MY BROTHER....I CAN SEE IT THROUGH YOUR WORDS...LET'S HOLD THE LIGHT THAT JESUS GAVE US UP SO THAT EVERYONE CAN SEE AND GET OUT OF THE DARKNESS...PRAISE THE LORD JESUS CHRIST......THESE THINGS ARE TO PASS ...WAR...HATE...ETC..THAT MEANS THAT THE LORD IS COMING SOON...AMEN....AND WHERE ALL THE HATE WILL GO??? WHAT WILL BE IT'S PROFIT THAT DAY.....GOD BLESS YOU MAN....GOD BLESS USA AND...PEACE TO ISRAEL....BLESSED IS EVERYONE WHO TRUSTS THE LORD....

    PS
    I AM FROM KORCA SOUTH EAST ALBANIA RIGHT NEXT TO GREECE...JJJJ YOU SHOULD HAVE TRIED TO GO TO KORCA....THE BEST PART PROPABLY IN ALBANIA....

  • Posted By: JJJJJ @ 02/20/2008 3:25:50 PM

    Well doesntmatter, I have got to go and be productive. Unlike you, I am not an ungrateful immigrant who does nothing but suck on the nipple of the American taxpayer.

    Continue to complain and hate the world. LIke a stated before, if you hate America then leave it. But you will not since you are a hypocrit.

    And admit it - if the U.S. offered you citizenship you would take it in a heartbeat and happily waive your little American flag.

    I dare you to speak your mind and tell the immigration officer that you hate America - you won't because, again, you are a hypocrit. State one thing and do another.

    Suck that nipple dry................

    Hate, hate, hate.................

    • Posted By: doesntmatter @ 02/20/2008 3:31:59 PM

      Like I said go watch NFL or go shopping

  • Posted By: doesntmatter @ 02/20/2008 3:00:00 PM

    JJJJ: didn't US support Bin Laden years ago, upss I guess they did.
    Didn't Bin Laden attack US? ups he did.
    Shut up and pay your taxes so US can help poor Albanian people,
    and sooner or later you will see your tax dollar at work, when they hit you again, but just don't cry than be as strong and smart as you are now.

  • Posted By: JJJJJ @ 02/20/2008 1:27:55 PM

    The fanatics who I see posting these comments are just single minded and full of hate. They don't judge the individual but stereo type all under a cloud of hate. I am not stating that bad things have not happened but to end the hate the mature people need to stand up. Look at Rwanda - in 1994, 800,000 were slaughtered in only 100 days - but today they have reconciled. This can be done in Kosovo as well but it will take humility and the elimination of pride (I will never understand what the whole "pride" thing is about - being "proud" just because you were born Serb or Albanian). Foolishiness.

    As for the Orthodox Christian vs Muslim thing - Albanians are recovering Communists and I found have a hunger for the Lord. Albania is not a "muslim" country but a country trying to find itself. Albania need to be prayed for and more Christian missionaries need to sent there to meet the demand of these new "babes" in Christ. By the way, being born in a "Orthodox" country does not make one a Christian - being a Christian is a person committment to Jesus Christ by accepting him as your Saviour. Amen!

    God bless Vangeli! Keep up the love for others in the name of Christ. Pray for the U.S. as well. We are not a perfect country and the leaders, within good intentions have made mistakes, but Americans are generous and mean well. We privately give to global charity more than any other country in the world. Pray that the U.S. leaders will find I love for the Lord and seek God's guidance as well.

    P.S. This post is directed to Vangeli and anyone else with an open mind and gentle heart for people. Anyone full of hate go yell in the mirror. Anyone living in the U.S. and hating this country can hop on the next plane to somewhere else - if you don't you are a hypocrit with meaningless words. Don't bite the hand that feeds you. Be a grateful immigrant that the U.S. (paid for by the American people) has given you an opportunity for a better life.

    • Posted By: doesntmatter @ 02/20/2008 2:25:25 PM

      JJJJ: what's next who was weapons of mass destruction?
      Maybe Mexico, ?

      • Posted By: JJJJJ @ 02/20/2008 2:51:07 PM

        Keep hating and complaining - that's all you know. You are an ungrateful fool. Hate the U.S yet no one is forcing you to live here; planes leave everyday back to the hole in which you came from - hypocrite. Loser.

  • Posted By: ninoo @ 02/19/2008 7:32:58 PM

    Republic of Kosovo will flourish. All this rubbish that there are lots of criminals and organised crime (in Kosovo), I can assure you that is no more than in any other country in Europe.
    Kosovo was ruled, occupied by a bunch of criminals (Serbian government) who were working closely with these criminals in Kosovo.
    Now we have a state, we will have our own police and army, our government.
    Judge us after few years and we will see who the real criminals are?

    • Posted By: doesntmatter @ 02/19/2008 7:38:52 PM

      we can see you don't have to post it multiple times, we can see that you went to school and you know how to write, Great accomplishment for Albanian. should we give you a cany because you can write

      • Posted By: ninoo @ 02/20/2008 2:26:12 PM

        doesntmatter..
        Can you please read comments of your compatriot (serb soldier 21), posted at 12:44:42pm. And I refer to your earlier comment, posted on 02/19/200 at 19.38.52... ???we can see that you can write, great accomplishment for an Albanian,??? hahahaha god I feel good.

      • Posted By: ninoo @ 02/20/2008 1:32:46 PM

        doesntmatter, ..Believe it or not I speak 6 languages. I speak Albanian, English, German, Spanish, Italian and your Serbian language. Not to bad for an ex KLA man heh... And I tell you what?? I am going to be feeling proud when I tell my nieces and nephews,, when I am all old and wrinkly about the great sacrifices this small nation made with the help of Democratic world.... for our freedom.

  • Posted By: TonyM @ 02/20/2008 9:44:07 AM

    To doesntmatter:
    You can as well get a blog going on for newsweek. You can send the $ to the support serb lobbying or buying weapons. Either way, it will not help your cause. It is unbeliavable that Serbs like you think that they are "the best thing" that happend to the balcans/world. You do not like Croatioans, Slovenians, Macedonians and Albanians. Yet, people like you who seem so patriotic live and come to the US - while you have a country and are not like the Jews before WW2. You come to the US and wish for this country's demise. It is sad and opportunistic in their end and people like you should never became a US citizen, and yet they do.
    You keep mentioning how bad the Albanians are bringing a few examples. Do not except answers from this blog for that. Most of us here do not expect you to have the answers as to why the Serbs disintregrated Yugoslavia, why they started so many wars in the last 20 years, why they killed so many people, whether Croatians, Slovenians, Bosniacs and Kosovo Albanians. People like you just talk in the wind, wishing for another Milosevic to take over Serbia. And even if it did, it will not solve problems of the people in Serbia while people like you have the american life with anything that comes with it.
    There are many articles written out there, do not waste your time only on this.

    • Posted By: doesntmatter @ 02/20/2008 2:22:15 PM

      Ok, US papers writing about your leaders as terrorist and than I'm making up staff.
      Get a life

    • Posted By: doesntmatter @ 02/20/2008 12:21:32 PM

      Ok, US papers writing about your leaders as terrorist and than I'm making up staff.
      Get a life

  • Posted By: TonyM @ 02/20/2008 1:12:00 PM

    TO doesntmatter:
    ohh...let me rephrase, IT DOES MATTER,,,,,and this is why you are here this week and this is why you are angry. This is your only way to vent your anger. What else can you do? Even it was a war you would not be there? It will be wasted blood.
    You call me a "freaking jihad terrorist". You have lost your mind when I told you that I am christian. But hey, it does not matter, as long as it justifies the "bigger cause". Sorry pal, there is no more cause. And while Serb solder in the ground can do something, including hopping on Obama in the US, what can you do. While you can, you would not because you are comfortable with the life in the US. SerbSoldier is there....you are here......whether as fake serbian or american. Hold you anger......you have so much more to write....while I go back at my work.

    • Posted By: doesntmatter @ 02/20/2008 2:20:52 PM

      Yes, go to work you ***

  • Posted By: zrak @ 02/20/2008 2:17:55 PM

    Darling Vangeli, I am so sorry to read your comments. I am. I am sorry; not bitter as you would like .You came here and bring some thoughts and anytime when there is some other opinion based on the arguments , historical evidence etc. you are replying to me the comments about other's personality?!!! For example - you obviously don't have idea about history of Ilirium but somebody told you something and you didn't put an effort to learn more about it. As I understand it, I have asked you : where did you get this , who do you quote, instead of saying from the beginning, you sound like somebody had put you a tape and you are playing it again and again anyway! You are an insult for the people who have dedicated their life to science , research, scientific methodology and even common logic. You have never ever said any argument ...it is funny to hear people knowing anything and everything even for the distant places , I guess you have to be born with that otherwise you are less lucky , like me, and have to study hard , learn a lot and check everything before you write it.

  • Posted By: JJJJJ @ 02/20/2008 1:18:37 PM

    Hello vangeli - You are the bright spot on this post and God bless you too! Those of us who accepted Jesus Christ are all brothers in Christ. Just like what Paul wrote - Jew and Gentile alike, today we can be brothers as well.

    I have always studied history and turned to Albanian history to understand my wife's former country. The stories I hear how bad it was under Enver Hoxha and to see all the bunkers in person! It is interesting how Albanians in the south view Albanias in the north. Seeing the beautiful Ionian Sea and Corfu on the horizon among the Greek minority villages was beautiful (by the way - I heard the Greek minority were persecuted under the communists----more hate but this time against their countrymen) Hanging out with her cousins along the beach in the club "Havana" drinking beer and coffees was enjoyable. On the otherside, driving was a nightmare, the drivers are beyond rude (psychotic compared to the U.S.), hundreds of partially built structures along the highways, and Tirana was quite pollluted but has potential. The other cities of Vlore, Fir (spelling? - pronounced "fear") I found very dirty and delapitated.

    Those who I met in Albanian were very nice, generous people, concerned with their families and finances, not the wars among Serbs/ethnic Albanians in Kosovo. They actually discussed the U.S. - Iraq War with me!They have their own problems to tend to such as paying for their childrens university education in Athens or other parts of the world. The parents work hard for their children, just like in the U.S. and I assume the rest of the world (ie Serbia).

    The most beautiful women I saw (besides my wife) were the Albania women in Italy (not the one's living in Albanian), and of course the Italian women as well. Combining the features of an Albanian woman with the products offered in Italy you can really create a beautiful women! Since living in Albania is a hard life it takes a toll on a woman's appearance.

    • Posted By: JJJJJ @ 02/20/2008 2:12:47 PM

      BTW - they did tell me the people in the north are angry/aggresive and harken back to the "blood fueds" and have more in common with the Kosovo ethnic Albanians. Hopefully, if anyone responds to this it can be done without a Serb vs Albanian hateful tirrade.

  • Posted By: EDA1 @ 02/20/2008 11:50:11 AM

    to JJJJ Its amazing to hear your description on how the Greeks consider your wife and her family > Did you ever think that they might be Greek ? Albania has a considerable Greek minority. They are ALbanian citizens but consider themselves Greek and have no Pro Kosovo feeling... Well, it is not fun to be Greek and live in Albania, shall they demand independence too? .'

    • Posted By: JJJJJ @ 02/20/2008 1:50:34 PM

      So what if they are a Greek minority living in Albania? Are they suppose to cry and give up? Of course not.

      They have lived in the south, up north, in Tirana, in Greece. They have dealt with any predjiduces they might have received as the better person - as a mature adult. They don't hate - they don't have time to hate - they work hard to make a life.

      Can you imagine sometimes feeling as an outsider in Albanian and Greece!? Now fanatics like you state they should now be concerned with yet another country - Kosovo because of their lingeage?

      How about just getting along? For the love of God, just bury the hatchet and move on. Do you really want your children taking hours out of their day just to hate intead of doing something more productive?

      Borders will continue to move in the world. Just relax and reach out to someone who looks a little different from you - you may make a new friend.

      I did NOT marry my wife because she happened to be born Albanian, I married her for who she is. The Balkain people have so much to learn about relationships.

      • Posted By: JJJJJ @ 02/20/2008 2:03:00 PM

        BTW - it's not that much "fun" to be Albanian in Albania either....I have read that half of Albanians live outside of Albania seeking a better life in the EU or US. The Balkains are just a mess, with the exception of Greece and Croatia. Croatia has turned itself into a beautiful tourist destination in just a few years - good for them!

  • Posted By: JJJJJ @ 02/19/2008 7:42:04 PM

    ninoo - I do hope that Kosovo will flourish, but I rightfully have my doubts after having traveled to Albania. I do think they deserve a chance, and with NATOs help they just might make it. Being that Albanians have been the joke of Europe for years they need America's support. America will help where the Europes trival pet peeves have done nothing but look silly. Don't count on the EU to do anything but hope for America.

    • Posted By: ninoo @ 02/20/2008 1:37:15 PM

      JJJJ yes we do need help, but we are fighters and I think we have shown that. Albanians in history, every war they have fought was because they were defending their territory??? not attacking others like some other nations.

    • Posted By: doesntmatter @ 02/19/2008 7:53:03 PM

      Hehehe do you know America has big deficit, if US continues party life it will become next Kosovo.
      Big americans helping everybody and making fun of everybody.
      Do you now how much we own China, they can crash our economy in no time.

  • Posted By: TonyM @ 02/20/2008 12:30:09 PM

    TO EDA1:
    A considerable greek minority? You mean as considerable as the 120,000 serbs in Kosova? - Actually, it is great being a greek minority in Albania. They are about 200,000, they get educated in Greek, most have even Greek passports and Albanian ones, they are not attacked for who they are - So, NO ONE asks for independence.
    While tables have been turned in Kosova, Serbs have a chance to make a living there and the EU will make sure they have their rights protected. They might instead burn a border post and try to join Serbia, however, it will not work. Hang in there, it will not be an easy ride for either side.

    • Posted By: doesntmatter @ 02/20/2008 12:38:37 PM

      Wow, they have Greek and Albanian passports. Of course that's how criminals operate.

      • Posted By: TonyM @ 02/20/2008 12:48:23 PM

        :) Dual citizenship is allowed in many countries in the EU/US/World. Whoever is criminal, we would hope it ends in jail (Albanian, Kosovar Albanian, Serb etc) , however they are many roaming the streets of every country.

        • Posted By: JJJJJ @ 02/20/2008 1:35:07 PM

          TonyM - don't waste your time with this fool - he is blinded by hate. You should take solice that you are a child of the Living God and through your faith in Jesus Christ we will have peace.

          This fool will continue to hate all, even hate the very country that took him. He will bite the hand that feeds him.

          He will hate America but not leave it - he is a hypocrit. He will hate America and say he cannot leave, yet planes leave everyday. He will live off of the U.S. taxpayer instead of working hard. He will throw away his wonderful opportunity here in America and instead blame Albanians, Mexicans, Americans, Croatians, small animals, trees, the sun, the rain and bad hair days on his laziness and lack of success.

          He is a loser.......

        • Posted By: doesntmatter @ 02/20/2008 12:58:19 PM

          Shut up please you know what I'm talking about, you freaking jihad terrorist

  • Posted By: Magyarul2k1 @ 02/20/2008 1:14:52 PM

    I DO NOT KNOW WHAT DOES MEAN TO BE A SERBIAN,A TURKISH ,A CROATIAN ,AN ALBANIAN,A RUSKY?;BUT I RESPECT WHAT EVER YOU ARE.....AND IF YOU FEEL ILL ABOUT ONE ONOTHER YOU SHOUL GO IN PEACE TO THE COUNTRY ,PEOPLE AND PLACE YOU LOVE......LONG LIVE KOSOVO

  • Posted By: zrak @ 02/20/2008 4:38:46 AM

    Some more historical facts from the recent history : This is not a first time that Kosovo make official declaration of independence.They did it on 2. of July 1990.,it was a little bit a less accepted than that is now. Also north Macedonia made some declaration of ILIRIDA independence on 24.of March same year '90. There are lot of places in the world , you have no idea how much , that proclaimed independency and never get internationally recognized . As it will be the case of Kosovo for the second and later third and fifth time ... and so on. I am not interested in this since I know that Kosovo will NEVER have it chair in the UN. I am deeply concern for the people living there and whether the minority problems will ever be solved?

    • Posted By: vangeli @ 02/20/2008 10:10:07 AM

      WHY YOU ZRAK LIKE SOME OTHERS ARE SOOOO BITTER AND FULL OF HATE AGAINST OTHER PEOPLE AND ALBANIANS???WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO TEACH YOUR CHILDREN FOR TOMOROW??? HOW TO HATE MY CHILDREN AND LOOK DOWN ON OTHER PEOPLE OR HATE ALBANIANS MORE AND STIR UP A HATE THAT COULD END UP IN ANOTHER WOR???
      CAN WE JUST PUT ASIDE ALL THE HATE AND EMBRACE LOVE INSTEAD...THIS HATE AND BITTERNES IS NOT GOING TO HELP YOU AND ME TO CO-LIVE TOGETHER IN THAT AREA....I AM AN ALBANIAN FROM ALBANIA NOT FROM KOSOVO BUT, I STILL THINK THAT THERE IS A GREAT FUTURE FOR YOU AND US TO PROSPER IN LOVE AND BECOME STRONGER TOGETHER...WHY NOT. LET'S NOT TALK HOW GOOD YOU ARE OR HOW BETTER I AM OR..WHATEVER...I'D LIKE ONE DAY TO COME TO SERBIA AND VISIT AND SPEND MY HOLYDAYS THERE AND SO I WISH THE SAME FOR YOU TO COME TO ALBANIA AND HAVE FUN...YOU'LL BE MORE THAN WELCOMED...AS A CHRISTIAN I AM I THINK THAT LOVE IS STRONGER THAN HATE AND BITTERNES....NOW IT ALL DEPENDS IN YOU...

  • Posted By: robned @ 02/20/2008 9:48:53 AM

    does this mean the algierians and nigerians can now take over france or the turks can now take over germany or the 1.5 million albanians in athens can now take over greece come on wake up world

  • Posted By: robned @ 02/20/2008 9:46:37 AM

    if the vietnamese decide to take a piece of sydney for themselves will nato come and bomb australia for rejecting i should think not nor would they even think about the proposal of giving up their country to vietnamese imports as are albanian imports in kosovo had the serbs not defeated the turks in the early 1800's a lot of european countrys would not exist today i think they are being treated incredibly unfairly and it will open a pandoras box for so many others including the 6000000 turks in germany and the 17000000 algierian and nigerian sin france

  • Posted By: ermir @ 02/20/2008 9:05:03 AM

    this article is very prejudical and does not taKE INTO CONSIDERATION THE HISTORICAL FACTS AND RECENT DEVELOPMENTS. THE REASON WHY KOSOVO IS POOR IS DISRUCTION COUSED BY WAR AND UNDIFINED STATUS. NOW KOSOVANS CAN START TO WORK TO IMPROVE THEIR ECONOMY AND ALIVIATE POVERTY.

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