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  • Posted By: doesntmatter @ 02/19/2008 12:15:55 PM

    Just stop and think 60% unemployment in Kosovo, why? because Albanians are a lazy people, and then they blame Serbia for being poor. You want to joint the Europe just take look what's the average children in European family, definitely not around 10 like Albanians, and then ooo my good you are in bad situation because of the serbs. Look at the news, Albanians arrested all over Europe for drugs, human trade, etc. In US they are planning to attach US army stations. Sorry I didn't hear anything positive about Albanians.
    All of your leaders are criminals and that independence doesn't mean anything to you but it does for him "He has control over more people and of course money". You don't have money to live for a year without international support, and the money that you may get will be insignificant to you because your leader will keep split the most of it. Just get a life Albanians you had more chances under Serbia to become something then you will ever under your FAKE KOSOVO.

  • Posted By: doesntmatter @ 02/19/2008 11:12:48 AM

    U.S. has more problems than any other country in the world, but they rather get involved in other countries problems. There is so many Hispanics in U.S. and one day they will want their own Kosovo in U.S. and I will support them.
    http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/52830

    • Posted By: Tamerlane @ 02/19/2008 11:21:53 AM

      Hell, man, when it's about the USA, there are other standards. The National Guard would solve that in an hour, no international discussions involved.

  • Posted By: vojkan @ 02/19/2008 9:40:22 AM

    conratulation for all of you like their supporters, u just made new bin laden country!

    • Posted By: Tamerlane @ 02/19/2008 11:15:09 AM

      Absolutely right! One should also remind people, whose stronger side is not history, that Mr. Tachi should have been in the Hague War Criminal Tribunal by now.

  • Posted By: Donika @ 02/19/2008 10:52:55 AM

    Unless Newsweek, dos not replays that ultranationalist Cirjakovic who writes for right wing Kostuncia???s Nin weekly magazine, the Newsweek would not be read objectively in the rest of Balkans apart of Serbia. I have no clue where the Newsweek took the percentage of unemployed people in Kosovo. Obviously unemployment is not 57% and certainly not 70 % among youth under age 25. One should check more accurate datas??? and statistics from UNDP/HDR and WB or IMF sources.
    There were not ONLY massacres taken place in Kosovo, but an ethnic cleansing with some elements of genocide.
    Advocating and/or assuming that Republic of Kosovo will be a failed state is tendentious and not well documented in this article. While reading the article, one could feel emotional approach from Mr. Nordland who is without doubts under influence of fascistic attitudes of Zoran Cirjakovic. Pity, you don???t check his writing in Serbian. I am convinced you would have been astonished.

    Donika, Prishtina, Republic of Kosovo

    • Posted By: Tamerlane @ 02/19/2008 11:11:47 AM

      At least he knows how to write. Give me one Kosovar journalist who writes for the Newsweek? I didn't think so. Go iron your new Albanian flag.

  • Posted By: carnabylane @ 02/19/2008 7:05:50 AM

    Serbs are like Nazis, cruel murderers, rapists and torturers. They have terrorized the Balkans for far too long with a nod and a wink from the Europeans. If Kosovo doesn't succeed at least they tried and refused to knuckle under to oppressive pigs like France and others did in WWII.

    • Posted By: Tamerlane @ 02/19/2008 11:08:02 AM

      SERBS ARE LIKE NAZIS???? What the hell do you know about it? Wait, let me guess, the Balkans is "backward, savage, uneducated", especially the Serbis, right? Go to the library, you know, the place where the books are...or, if you do not know what a book is, google it....and take one called HISTORY. If you manage to read it, mail it to Mr. Bush.

    • Posted By: nancytodd @ 02/19/2008 10:56:53 AM

      Serbs are like Nazis? What do you base that on? And what are the Albanians? You want to tell me that they stood by innocently and have NOT committed atrocities??? The ATROCITIES that Albanians have committed have been going on much longer that the war in 99. Anyone that has ever visted Serbia and come back to the Unites States was in AWE of the hospitatility they received by the Serbian People. The warmth, the generosity, the friendliness. That sure as heck doesn't really make the Serbs sound like a bunch of savages.

      The Serbians want to protect THEIR LAND!! Kosovo has been a part of Serbia for Centuries. Last time I checked, there was a country called Albania...why don't the Albanians go back there??? What's wrong with the country you have had...Albania? Need more than one country? Don't you realaize that noon wants you. Not the Macedonians, not the Romanians, not the Greeks. But your plan is to migrate to other countries...breed like a bunch of rabbits (because that is what you do best) so that you can miraculously become the MAJORITY population...and keep declaring independance one country at a time. One day someone will put a stop to y. The rest of the world will become wise to the evil doings of the Albanians -- we just hope and pray that it is not too late.

  • Posted By: vojkan @ 02/19/2008 4:29:26 AM

    and albanians they are not also the one who raped our womens?, they didnt slauther noone down there? ethnic cleansing is maybe done by them coz there are 2 mil of albanians, how 200 000 of serbs can make ethnic cleansing, what about OVK, nobody here didnt mentioned them and their f ideas for great propaganda, OVK the same muslims or albanians whom u giving support slauthered they own people all of them who didnt give support to OVK?, all of you here are so blind that i am sick of all of you and ur sick comments full of hates. yes, give the support for muslims coz next country whom they will take is maybe urs. and dont call urself christian. but just wait and u will see who they are for real.

    • Posted By: MESUESI @ 02/19/2008 5:13:45 AM

      IT IS REALLY SAD TO SEE AND READ COMMENTS FROM PEOPLE LIKE YOU. IT DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO ABOUT CHRISTIANITY OR ISLAM, IT IS ABOUT HUMANITY. CAN YOU UNDERSTAND THE BASIC CONCEPT OF HUMANITY? YOU TRYING TO REDEEM WHAT WAS DONE IN THE NAME OF VELIKA SRBIJA?
      YOU AND PEOPLE LIKE YOU ARE DISGUSTING. SINCE YOU DON'T HAVE ANYBODY ELSE LEFT TO HUMILIATE AND FIGHT, WHO OR WHAT IS NEXT? ASK NORMAL PEOPLE FROM SERBIA, BECAUSE IT THEM THAT ARE PAYING THE PRICE AND NOT PEOPLE LIKE YOU FROM OUTSIDE SERBIA.
      BTW, US ALBANIANS HAVE THREE DIFFERENT RELIGIONS AND ALL OF THEM ARE WIDELY ACCEPTED, AND NONE OF THEM IS LOOKED UPON AS "BETTER" THAN THE OTHER.
      MAY GOD BLESS USA AND ITS CITIZENS.

      • Posted By: nancytodd @ 02/19/2008 11:00:22 AM

        Don't you date speak about Humanity. The Albanians do NOT KNOW THE CONCEPT of HUMANITY!! Velika Serbia??? We are not trying to take over Europe? We just want to keep what is ours. Unlike the Albanians, who ahve 15 kids per family and then of course you will be the majority population. Which country is next?? Greece? Romania?? How about your plan for a Velika Albania?? Hopefully that will NEVER happen...if it does, GOD Help Humanity.

      • Posted By: vojkan @ 02/19/2008 5:38:07 AM

        I am inside Serbia and you who are not here to see the real truth siting in ur warm chairs with beer's in hand u ca....i am sick of all of you here and ur false propaganda and ur newspapers and ur empty brains who give weapons and money to terrorists like albanians OVK...yessss give them weapon and money to ruin down more of ur buildings i will like it to see, hell too you bill klinton what u did here with ur bombs and to all others who support NATO...etc KOSOVO IS SERBIA!!!!!! and it will be always.
        first meet serbian people, talk with them and then give ur judgment instead to watch ur brainwashing BBC or CNN. u think that somebody here can be normal when hjalf of world see us like a pigs and we are not, we are kind and genereous people, come here and u will not see how ur TV and newspapers desribed us. I am same like you, christian with faith in jesus christ and not muslims with different looking into whole world...look what they do in macedonia, same like here.
        i am not terrorist i dont even hate muslims, i had friend he was muslim and never we didnt fight, but i hate west and their propaganda to wrong side and nobody cant see the truth ocz nobody of you didnt been here on both sides to see what real happened here.

  • Posted By: italogirl @ 02/19/2008 2:24:13 AM

    I think you don???t have a single reason to be proud as a Serb. From the history Serbian have promote violence and destruction in Balkan. Don???t forget the brutal ethnic cleansing and one of the biggest genocide that Serbia did 1999. I am not Serbian and neither Albanian but I worked with international humanitarian organization there during the war. I can???t forget the tears of the little Albanians girls raped by Serbian solders after they killed their parents. Milosevic was a Hitler. Albanian are one of the most civilized and peaceful people in Balkan. They love freedom, democracy and peace as well. But I can???t say the same for Serbian. Look at the history people. Serbian fight with Croatian first, and than with Bosnian and after that with Kosovo???s, and which one is next??? I think with themselves because they like to fight and they don???t like peace???

    • Posted By: europeangirl @ 02/19/2008 6:42:46 AM

      Common, italogirl, what are you talking about?! There are at least 2 hostile parties in any war. And in this war both Albanians and Serbs were equally brutal and practiced ethnic cleansing, which is proved by numerous documents and evidents. How about Serbian little girls who were raped by UCK soldiers and whose parents were killed? You haven't met them??? May be you didn't want to hear and see? Well, perhaps you should have to try to see both sides. I'm not saying that Serbs soldiers were angels, but Albanian soldiers were at least as cruel and awful beasts. As for your work with international organization in Kosovo, perhaps you should come back and see how Albanians used all those opportunities that Nato's support have gave them. Not much to be proud of.... As for Kosovo's independence from Serbia, yeah, why not, but then why no independence for Basks in Spain, Kurds in Turkey and Iraq, Abkhazian and South Osetins in Georgia? These people also suffered and are also as much alienated from central governments as Kosovars are alienated from Serbian government. However western countries are not going to grant independence to them. Why some people are more equal than others? People, why do you let mass media to wash your brains? Just for a change start using your head fro what it was given to you!!! What happened in Kosovo may be justified politically, but it IS a violation of international law. And we all gonna suffer from this in the long, or may be short perspective.

      • Posted By: zanazibar @ 02/19/2008 10:55:30 AM

        Amen to that! I agree wholeheartedly-people are being too one-sided.

        However, I come from a country with a similar situation of political indefinition and I can understand that, unless they broke the international law, there was no way they were going to get the chance to be independent. Same thing would happen with the basques or the boricuas that still harbor hope for independence. So what do we do if, by breaking the law, we lose, but we also lose if we don't break it?

    • Posted By: avavav @ 02/19/2008 9:20:47 AM

      could not agree more

    • Posted By: europeangirl @ 02/19/2008 6:40:12 AM

      Common, italogirl, what are you talking about?! There are at least 2 hostile parties in any war. And in this war both Albanians and Serbs were equally brutal and practiced ethnic cleansing, which is proved by numerous documents and evidents. How about Serbian little girls who were raped by UCK soldiers and whose parents were killed? You haven't met them??? May be you didn't want to hear and see? Well, perhaps you should have to try to see both sides. I'm not saying that Serbs soldiers were angels, but Albanian soldiers were at least as cruel and awful beasts. As for your work with international organization in Kosovo, perhaps you should come back and see how Albanians used all those opportunities that Nato's support have gave them. Not much to be proud of.... As for Kosovo's independence from Serbia, yeah, why not, but then why no independence for Basks in Spain, Kurds in Turkey and Iraq, Abkhazian and South Osetins in Georgia? These people also suffered and are also as much alienated from central governments as Kosovars are alienated from Serbian government. However western countries are not going to grant independence to them. Why some people are more equal than others? People, why do you let mass media to wash your brains? Just for a change start using your head fro what it was given to you!!! What happened in Kosovo may be justified politically, but it IS a violation of international law. And we all gonna suffer from this in the long, or may be short perspective.

  • Posted By: Donika @ 02/19/2008 10:51:45 AM

    Unless Newsweek, dos not replays that ultranationalist Cirjakovic who writes for right wing Kostuncia???s Nin weekly magazine, the Newsweek would not be read objectively in the rest of Balkans apart of Serbia. I have no clue where the Newsweek took the percentage of unemployed people in Kosovo. Obviously unemployment is not 57% and certainly not 70 % among youth under age 25. One should check more accurate datas??? and statistics from UNDP/HDR and WB or IMF sources.
    There were not ONLY massacres taken place in Kosovo, but an ethnic cleansing with some elements of genocide.
    Advocating and/or assuming that Republic of Kosovo will be a failed state is tendentious and not well documented in this article. While reading the article, one could feel emotional approach from Mr. Nordland who is without doubts under influence of fascistic attitudes of Zoran Cirjakovic. Pity, you don???t check his writing in Serbian. I am convinced you would have been astonished.


  • Posted By: vojkan @ 02/19/2008 9:37:32 AM

    i am ashamed of all serbs who did that but i can understand their anger, kosovo is serbia, it been always serbia and not albania home of terrorists outsiders called islam, jihad whatever.

    • Posted By: avavav @ 02/19/2008 9:57:17 AM

      http://www.lib.msu.edu/sowards/balkan/

      read lecture one - turns out serbs invaded albanian lands just like we did invade north american lands. we however, brough prosperity and built the strongest nation on earth, you guys brought misery. why on earth did you not leave kosovo now as the brits left hong kong - prosperous and modern. you left poverty misery. and now you want me to believe how these guys are mafia and what have you.

      read lecture 13 to evaluate whether kosovo has always been serbia: Deferring their rival claims to Macedonian territory, Serbia, Montenegro, Greece and Bulgaria agreed to cooperate in defiance of the Great Powers, then made plans to throw the Turks out of Europe. In 1912, all four states declared war on Turkey and rapidly liberated Macedonia and much of Thrace in the First Balkan War. Serbian and Greek troops divided Macedonia between themselves: when Bulgaria demanded a share, Greece, Serbia and Romania fought the Second Balkan War in 1913 in order to keep the spoils. Serbia increased in size by 82 percent, the greatest single step so far toward Garasanin's Great Serbian vision in the Nacertanije. Serbian attention now turned north toward Austrian-ruled Bosnia, Croatia and Vojvodina.
      AND PLEASE DON'T GIVE ME ALL THAT CHURCH FOUNDATION THING AND KOSOVSKO POLE *** - EVERYONE FOUGHT THE TURKS, YOU GUYS WERE JUST WERE MORE SKILLED AT TAKING BIGGER CHUNKS FROM IT. IF YOU KNEW HOW TO MANAGE IT, YOU WOULD HAVE HAD IT ALL FOR YOU. ALAS, ROTTEN YOU ARE...

      and the most interesting part is part one. why are these people so backward in the balkans? is it the ottomans...the geography...culture....?

  • Posted By: ekos @ 02/19/2008 8:43:24 AM

    Kosovo will strongly survive, has most developed allies EU and US dont forget Japan and other states that means through support of abovementioned investors, kosovars will newer attack Mc Donalds and forign investors and never will forget their help,This article is not based on the facts and keeps serbian side because is written by serbian nationalist, its reflecting his anger a lot. So lets together wish strong statehood and prosperity to free KOSOVO.

    • Posted By: doesntmatter @ 02/19/2008 9:36:04 AM

      Just shut up you people are just lazy as they come.

  • Posted By: jedra76 @ 02/19/2008 2:13:47 AM

    "we humans just do not tolerate bondage. so oprressed people will always, in the end, get a way out."
    "who got bombed by us."
    This look`s as typical arogant and ignorant comment from somebody who is contaigned with prejudice.
    Thoes the fact that autor is serb automaticaly means that the obervation that is made is inacurate and false?
    You should realy conteplate your own words quoted above and look if there is any good came from bombing from you? Isn`t that ultimate bondage and oppresion? Many of people from kosovo(bouth serbs and albanians) find they way out from there all over the word because of decades of war and economic krises.Who do you think caused it?
    Who got ears to hear will hear.

    • Posted By: avavav @ 02/19/2008 9:33:51 AM

      the fact that the writer turned out to be a serb, means WE ARE TIRED OF GIVING YOU SERBS THE BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT. A SERB SHOULD NOT BE ON A MAIN PAGE ON MY COUNTRY'S MAJOR MEDIA OUTLETS TOT TELL ME ABOUT KOSOVO. us my friend, we make history, we change lives, we free countries from nazis, fascists and the likes, we make things happen, and the slightest hunch that we may have gotten it wrong seriously risks us losing the benefit of the doubt and positive image we have built over centuries. and you serbs think you can get away with raping women and children for decades, killing civilians, burning and pillaging, creating concentration camps in the 21st century, and you still want us to give you the benefit of the doubt. get a life. you guys make me sick with your hate-filled rotten souls. let's talk about serbia. let your brother serb tell me about the failed state of serbia. do not judge this young nation on day 1. man, you make me sick...

  • Posted By: rodmilich @ 02/19/2008 6:03:18 AM

    PLEASE READ THIS IT WILL LEAVE YOU SPEECHLESS!
    http://www.serbianna.com/news/2008/01360.shtml

    Kosovo was never Albanian, Kosovo Was Always The Serbian Land. You gave Serbian Kosovo away, but you have NOT look at the bigger picture. Albanian's with Kosovo in their hands will try to great Great Albania, With coridors from Albania > Kosovo > Montenegro > Bosnia.

    God Bless us all :-(

    • Posted By: doesntmatter @ 02/19/2008 9:33:22 AM

      From the article: "Albanian Muslims murder Kosovo Serbian civilians in streets in 1941 after Adolf Hitler granted them "independence"." I think we just need to change couple of facts and history is repeating, instead of 1941 is 2008 and instead of Adolf Hitler it is George Bush.

  • Posted By: zrak @ 02/19/2008 8:26:09 AM

    II part: After '99. there was reverse situation - now Serbs are not anymore aggressors , now Albanians are . A well know violence of 17 of March result in a new wave of refuges leaving Kosovo and a huge part of Serbian medieval worldwide cultural heritage was burnt . You who are parents can you solve problems of your children punishing one and leaving another? In my home we were always both punished anyway to learn not to fight each other and to try to control ourselves and not to blame another part. I believe if international factor wasn't so onesided there would be solution for the Kosovo as it is still possible if there is reason , logic and justice to led us toward solutions of any problem that occur in history. I, myself still believe that we could do much better than this!

  • Posted By: zrak @ 02/19/2008 8:25:29 AM

    let remind you of some historical facts relevant to our subject : America is made on the blood and bones of native Indians so why accusing others for the similar crimes no matter if they are Albanians , Serbs, Chines, people from UFO or what so ever...I think that is reaction of unsolved historical dilemma - Are we genocide nation, yes or no? What is the government response to this , what was the response of the Indians back then and now? France is asking from Turkey to recognize genocide done under Kemal Ataturk against Armenians . Whole history is made by the clash of people or nations , tribes or cities...Rome destroyed Cartage , Mycenaeans destroyed Crete and the most superb prehistoric Minoan civilisation and so on. Little by little in the mind of man come along the idea that we could make it better then that. We all prize Roman low , we all believe that we could make order and peace to all of us and some institutions are made in this effort, such as UN. In my opinion , with all the respect for everyone who think differently , supporting one or another part is a huge mistake that makes us similar to the opposite side just with a different arguments. We should all be on the opposite side from those who are breaking the law and whatsoever protect common order. So if we agree we could continue discussion - There was huge movement of separatism by Albanians long before Milosevic came , at least 30 years on going separatism that Serbian government inherited after Yougoslavia split; there was Milosevic military campaign that bring more violence to already existing guerrilla war ; '92. Albanians Deliberations Army was on the State Department list of world terrorist organization because Serbia was respectful and recognized state within it's federal borders and any attempt of changing it was considered as separatism. When the Serbian respond was too violent international response was , led by USA primarily, huge military campaign of 78 days of bombing of Serbia ( without UN document) that was so much of destruction that punished Serbian government , people , children for all the crime that they ever done to Albanians and whoever. And , what is more important , destruction was such that prevent a possible development of it society for at least 100-150 years.A future was sealed for many, many generations to come. Economy was led back in Ottoman period, migration of young people is highest possible, social catastrophe was large , helped by 200 000 refuges that came along from Kosovo as a result of 1244 resolution. Serbs considered that they were punished for the Milosevic politic far to much than their crimes against Albanians deserved. Also, for the majority Milosevic regime was wrong and they opposite it, as they felt hostage of it.

  • Posted By: avavav @ 02/19/2008 1:19:47 AM

    what a ridiculous article. first of all they have this foreign name guy as one of the authors, must be a serb. that's just plain vanilla hyping of the stock. why do i care to hear something about a problem from people who got bombed by us. of course they will say what we helped create will fail. like they say for iraq now. doesn't NW have impartial writers. also, the guys just expects us to believe them. sure there must be unemployment. i mean if these people all had jobs after decades of fighitng, than. man, i would want to be one of those supermen. of course they won't have jobs. how can they. so what the hell are these guys saying. nothing. i just know one thing, we humans just do not tolerate bondage. so oprressed people will always, in the end, get a way out. looks like kosovans did it. congrats.

    • Posted By: trimi66 @ 02/19/2008 7:53:58 AM

      I agree with at least part of your statements. The co-author of ths article is definitely Serbian.He is certianly entitled to his opinion, and I'm sure he has either lived in the region or at least has family there. At any rate he is more qualified to voice an opinion in this matter than most. What is troubling to me is he is givien a major news venue to express his views. I'am a little surprised that Newsweek would allow a writer to be so blatently bias within their pages. Having lived and worked in the area for quite some time; I can tell you there is enough blame to around. That being said; Serbia lost any right it had to rule Kosovo in 1999.

  • Posted By: rodmilich @ 02/19/2008 6:00:21 AM

    PLEASE READ THIS IT WILL LEAVE YOU SPEECHLESS!
    http://www.serbianna.com/news/2008/01360.shtml

  • Posted By: srb-aus @ 02/19/2008 5:53:32 AM

    I am still proud to be Serbian!

  • Posted By: Vanja @ 02/19/2008 5:39:00 AM

    Shame on you, all people of the world!!! This what happened on Kosovo is shame for all human
    civilisation!!! If there is human people on the world at all!!
    how can you approved breaking of all laws, how can you approved that somebody take part of
    your body??? That is same what happened with Kosovo and Serbia!
    And now Europeans says that Serbs have to protect their people and properties! Why?
    What they did to protect us???
    Shame, shame, that is all I can say

    • Posted By: vojkan @ 02/19/2008 5:46:58 AM

      the answers is easy how they can approve such ridiculous act:
      ITS JUST COZ THEY DONT CARE FOR ANYBODY ELSE except for themself.

  • Posted By: Vanja @ 02/19/2008 5:33:34 AM

    Shame on you people, everywhere around the world!!!!!
    Thih what happened on Kosovo is shame for whole human civilisation!!!
    If there is any more human at all on the world!!!
    How can you approve breakin of all laws, how can anybody take the part of your body????
    That is same lake this what happened with kosovo!

  • Posted By: srb-aus @ 02/18/2008 8:28:40 PM

    I am proud to be Serbian!

    • Posted By: italogirl @ 02/19/2008 2:23:49 AM

      I think you don???t have a single reason to be proud as a Serb. From the history Serbian have promote violence and destruction in Balkan. Don???t forget the brutal ethnic cleansing and one of the biggest genocide that Serbia did 1999. I am not Serbian and neither Albanian but I worked with international humanitarian organization there during the war. I can???t forget the tears of the little Albanians girls raped by Serbian solders after they killed their parents. Milosevic was a Hitler. Albanian are one of the most civilized and peaceful people in Balkan. They love freedom, democracy and peace as well. But I can???t say the same for Serbian. Look at the history people. Serbian fight with Croatian first, and than with Bosnian and after that with Kosovo???s, and which one is next??? I think with themselves because they like to fight and they don???t like peace???

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