Comment: Byzantium used to cover the lands occupied by Turkey now and the rest of the world around the Mediterranean Sea. Istanbul used to be the most magnificent city in the world, Konstantinopol, populated with over 1 000 000 people. This historic fact does not give any right to Greece to claim back any of its historic laComment: Byzantium used to cover the lands occupied by Turkey now and the rest of the world around the Mediterranean Sea. Istanbul used to be the most magnificent city in the world, Constantinople, populated with over 1 000 000 people. This historic fact does not give any right to Greece to claim back any of its historic lands that belong to Turkey or Istanbul now! As well as Germany Will never claim Eastern part of Poland that and Kaliningrad , the Russian territory in the west, that use to be Prussia and part of German Empire.
When Albanians have the right to be proud of their heritage they have no legal rights to claim the territories that have belonged to Serbia for over 1000 years and belong to Serbian according to its Constitution! Like the Turkish Kurds, who have waged a guerrilla war for over 20 years will never get their independence from Turkey however much they declare it (already for 20 years!) Constitutionally they are part of Turkey and will always be. Turkey will never allow separatism!!! Serbia will not allow separatism according to its Constitution and by International law. Russia blocked U.N. recognition of Kosovo's "independence" in the UN Security Council, putting Kosovo's declaration of "independence" into an illegal status. Albanians' Kosovo separatism is doomed as well as the Turkish Kurds' separatism is doomed. Any separatism anywhere in any corner of the world is doomed. Russia WILL make sure that it will never happen again.nds that belong to Turkey or Istanbul now! As well as Germany Will never claim Eastern part of Poland that and Kaliningrad , the Russian territory in the west, that use to be Prussia and part of German Empire.
When Albanians h ave the right to be proud of their heritage they have no legal rights to claim the territories that have belonged to Serbia for over 1000 years and belong to Serbian according to its Constitution! Like the Turkish Kurds, who have wage a guerrilla was for over 20 years will never get their independence from Turkey however much they declare it (already for 20 years!) Constitutionally they are part of Turkey and will alhere in any corner of the world is doomed. Russia WILL make sure that it will never happen again.
Another Failed State?
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Posted By: historian2008 @ 02/26/2008 6:23:24 AM
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Posted By: historian2008 @ 02/26/2008 6:16:46 AM
Byzantium used to cover the lands occupied by Turkey now and the rest of the world around the Mediterranean Sea. Istanbul used to be the most magnificent city in the world, Konstantinopol, populated with over 1 000 000 people. This historic fact does not give any right to Greece to claim back any of its historic lands that belong to Turkey or Istanbul now! As well as Germany Will never claim Eastern part of Poland that and Kaliningrad , the Russian territory in the west, that use to be Prussia and part of German Empire.
When Albanians h ave the right to be proud of their heritage they have no legal rights to claim the territories that have belonged to Serbia for over 1000 years and belong to Serbian according to its Constitution! Like the Turkish Kurds, who have wage a guerrilla was for over 20 years will never get their independence from Turkey however much they declare it (already for 20 years!) Constitutionally they are part of Turkey and will always be. Turkey will never allow separatism!!! Serbia will not allow separatism according to its Constitution and by International law AlbaniansBLOCKED U.N. recognition of Kosovo in the UN Security Council, putting Kosovo's declaration of independence into an ilegal status. Albanians's Kosovo separatism is doomed as well as the Turkish Kurds' separatism is doomed. Any separatism anywhere in any corner of the world is doomed. Russia WILL make sure that it will never happen again.
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Posted By: british historian @ 02/25/2008 6:49:19 PM
Data drawn from history and from linguistic, archaeological, and anthropological studies have led to the conclusion that Albanians are the direct descendants of the ancient Illyrians and that the latter were natives of the lands they inhabited.
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Posted By: alba.destiny @ 02/25/2008 8:46:51 PM
Thank you
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Posted By: alba.destiny @ 02/24/2008 8:13:08 PM
Forget about Serbs being able to maintain their weapons stolen from former Yugoslavia, soon Serbian weapons same as Russia???s will rust, they will not even have enough to eat without stilling Kosovas natural resources. Kosova is going to get own army, then Serbs are welcome anytime, we forgive them so many times, but never ever anymore. Serbs all they know is, how to fight with unarmed, women, kids and elderly. Read history but not from Kosovo.com (anyway this site was forced to shut down for spreading disinformation), .ru or .yu sites, how Serbs made surrendered Albanian men, which were fighting against Serbian psycho army. By killing their kids, women and elderly Serbs were saying they would stop all killing as soon as Albanian man surrender, but they lied and in the end they killed them all. We don???t want a war, but Serbs cannot be trusted same as Russia or Greece. By the way USA will stay in Kosova for so long and in meantime Serbs will starve if they don???t accept Kosovas independence and integrate into EU. Don???t tell me anything about Russia or China, you see no one is asking them anything; When NATO bombed Belgrade, they blow up Chinese embassy too and just apologized. NATO said their maps where out dated, so do you think NATO can have out dated maps? It was just to tell China and Russia, NATO can bomb whomever they want and no one can say anything. So you think Putin is going to take any steps ever? That???s why Putin is supplying Middle Eastern countries with uranium so they can build Nuke and use it against USA and EU. Putin is evil, sick and psycho, but still has no guts; just barks like a dog, or maybe his nukes have rusted already. As for now , at least Putin can sell something to Iran and feed his Slavic animals. HAHAHAHAH.
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Posted By: Luty @ 02/24/2008 9:57:33 PM
Hello, dear Alba.destiny
I would like to express my admiration for your active involvement in the discussion here, without it this discussion would have been too academic. However, there is one request that I would like to put forward - before finishing your post, could you please display some patience, lean back, and remember what that old German E.Kant reflected in his moral imperative - "do not do to the others what you don't want to be done to you" (sorry for simplification). I am very well aware that this resource here is a good place to blow off some steam, so that one can go on living, truly. However my lowly person here, for instance, would normally refrain from using the vocabulary you fairly often resorted to here. Granted, we do not know much about each other, but intelligent guesswork suggests that you should be a young person, and because of your age and probably level of education quite frequently unable to resist the temptation of sacrificing your good manners in the heat of a debate. Pray, try to resist this temptation in the future, however strong your position is. The language of facts is quite often more frequent more persuasive than mere allegations. It is your born right to make your beliefs know, for instance - that "Greeks, Serbs and Russians can not be trusted" collectively, as nations (the same goes for "Slavic animals", I am afraid). However in this case your ethnical prejudices do not stand you in good stand, because if we attempt to analyse the utterances of this style we would come very close to a conclusion that they border on intolerance, moreover - intolerance towards whole ethnical groups, thus invalidating your own arguments.
Please read this article once more, it is quite a balanced view on the situation in that troubled part of former Communist bloc, and remember that this forum here is for leaving your opinion on what the newspaper people wrote, and not publicizing your private frustrations about some bad nations that unfortunately still exist on the face of our little green Globe.
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Posted By: alba.destiny @ 02/25/2008 12:56:03 AM
I do apologize for my behavior. I would appreciate if historian2008 is mortified by his comments and his own opinion about Albanian people, which have suffered so much for centuries. So many of his comments are not true and it will raise temper of anyone by reading it. All we Albanians want freedom, for which we were waiting so long, this day has come, we want to enjoy it, and leave all the passed behind, even though it is very hard. If the Serbs don???t stop teasing us, then how do you think we may go in Europe together? I know that, borders are not going to make any sense in the future, but what I have seen on TV this passed couple of days, is making me wonder, can we ever leave side by side with Serbs without borders. Again, I do apologize for using words, which were inappropriate, and I am sorry for offense it may have caused.
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Posted By: Luty @ 02/25/2008 8:14:07 AM
thus thinking that what you dad told you and what you saw on CNN or EuroNews, (or what you read in that book which all leaders of EU and USA read) justifies your chauvinistic (please, do not write my nickname on a dartboard for using that word - if you would ask me, I would happily email you my full-size picture for throwing darts at), again chauvinistic comments about Greeks, Chinks (who cares if NATO kills a couple of Chinaman to see how outdated their maps are, or bombs a Greek train by a sheer mistake), Slavs, Circassins and other tribes (sorry, we did not talk about Circassins/Adygeans yet, oops), and the Gypsy country of Roumania...
That repetitious introduction of mine would seem redundant but I was simply trying to defuse possible allegations of myself as of a negative serb-siding self, and, once again my heart was filled with joy when I saw that you paused to read my post, though your response bore some resemblance to an excuse uttered by a kindergarden kid - I broke your toy because you broke mine - though to my great regret it's no longer a kindergarden for you, kid, sad, but true, it's time to grow up...
Maybe I sound too much like a mentor, but that is why my nickname in the college was "Professor", and this preaching streak is still part of myself.
There was an old jewish lady in my neighborhood who would say about bad people - "I wish I had moneys, then I would buy rockets, and throw those rockets on those characters' heads".
Well, my dear fellow alba, after this post of mine you would probably wish to have enough funds for purchasing these projectiles so that they could be targeted at your humble friend's cranium here, however pacifictic I may appear on the surface
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Posted By: Luty @ 02/25/2008 8:13:23 AM
My dear fellow human being alba
I truly appreciate the understanding your displayed in response to my recent remark. That is a positive sign, that we not only are capable of declaring that we are civilized people, but also of being civilized per se. Although in you previous posts you were elemental (please, do not think of this word as a way to abuse you), again, elemental enough to qualify your humble servant here as a "liar, thief, arrogant, not trustable and nonhuman (no mercy in my heart), better said a garbage of the Europe, and animal" (sorry for a lengthy quote, but since you magnanimously applied these qualifiers to all Slavs and Greeks, and with my old folks coming from the South-Eastern Europe, I boldly pressuposed that my rather washed-out ethnical background confers to me a right for these titles as well), this does not in any way undermine the respect I would normally feel towards you (just like towards any fellow earthman, and please, check my comments to your posts below), quite hopeful that you would generously put some degree of faith in this assurance of mine - I am a 30yrs old, Caucasian, married, read only one book by Vuk Draskovic (I like Ivo Andric and Erich M. Remarque better), never was to the Army though have a proud rank of a Private (ret.), travel around a lot because of my job (but not to Europe, though - I was there this summer, my first time in almost 10 years), a middle-class citizen who does not respond with an AKM salvo to a greeting made in a foreign tongue but knows plenty of ethnical jokes. And, I also watch the TV but normally do not read newspapers (the web-based media are more to my liking) but try to make my own assessment of what I saw and read, rather than trusting the pre-cut view of media people. As a doctor from the novel "The Dog's Heart" said (you never read that book, but studied many others, I feel positive about that) - "never read the newspapers before breakfast unless you want to ruin your stomach". For some reason (and I am not quite able to produce a bullet-proof explanation - why) from your style of speech and other uncertain evidences I feel rather inclined to infer that you should be in your mid- or early twenties, probably female, a nice enthusiatic girl (or maybe yet - a boy), full of expectations, confident of the fact that you know is right and what you don't know doesn't matter,
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Posted By: alba.destiny @ 02/24/2008 8:12:45 PM
To historian2008: Blablablabla, You are sick or blind, Russia is the best ally of Middle East countries (Islamic countries), and very happy to give Iran everything possible to build nuke in order to destroy Israel, EU and USA. I am Albanian and have nothing against any religion; by talking about religion I may heart Albanian Muslims, Catholics or Orthodox, so I don???t want to comment on it. Albanians of all religions fought side by side against Turkish Ottoman Empire. Your comment about religion has nothing to do with Albanians or Kosova independence; all western countries recognize us, and none of Middle Eastern countries as per now. Serbs tried to make Albanian Muslims as radicals but it didn???t work, then they proclaimed us as nationalists in order to kill us the way they planned. The truth is, Middle Eastern countries and Russia, are no different at all. I believe, Middle East is much better if controlled by USA and EU, anyway they are brainwashed by small percent of Sheiks and Princes which use all natural resources for getting wealthier, at same time people is starving. Don???t you think since people of Middle East are not getting anything from their natural resources, would they be much better under USA and EU, even if some of the OIL will be taken from them? Is it anything wrong with Kuwait, controlled by USA where the people are having decent life? Trust me genocide in the world is going to be stopped from Kosova by USA and EU forces, if needed even to Russia they will go. Kosova is independent, that???s what I care; Russia is like a dog that barks but never bites. You can dream about Serbs ever stepping in Kosovas soil, EVER. Serbs, if they dont have heavy weapons they hide in their mothers pans. .
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Posted By: srb-aus @ 02/24/2008 7:58:16 PM
Kosovos economy......bakljave,sladoljed,koljaci...prc.
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Posted By: srb-aus @ 02/24/2008 6:40:24 PM
FREE condoms for Albanians!
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Posted By: historian2008 @ 02/23/2008 11:52:42 PM
For ninoo: There is no need to beat your head around the BUSH. Separatists never made history and law always prevailed in the end. Kosovo and Metohija have been are and will legally be part of sovereign Serbia. Kosovo has an autonomy in Serbia that is legal and will remain according to Serbian constitution. The truth is that this conflict showed the sharp devisions among countries, but nothing legally more. Albanians from Serbia (Kosovo) have the legal right to immigrate to Albania. There will never be another Albanian state legally. The UN has not approved the separatist move.and I am sure WILL NOT. Every reasonable member of the UN realizes that the"recognition"of Kosovo will untie the hands of the terrorists and separatists all over the world and will push the world to WWIII.
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Posted By: ninoo @ 02/24/2008 5:54:27 PM
To historian: I have to say there is one sentence I do agree with you from the earlier posting /comment directed to me, ???History and law always prevails in the end??????.. well as you can see, it did in Kosovo???s case. We got our freedom and KOSOVO is INDEPENDENT.
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Posted By: historian2008 @ 02/24/2008 5:53:47 PM
Here is a reponse from another site that expresses the opinion of the majority of reasonable people in the USA and the world that has suffered so much from islamic extremism:
Comment: Considering that the world has more than enough insane islamic states, the so-called independent Kosovo is just the latest of the too many BONEHEADED BUSH BUNGLING!
We should be seeking to DECREASE insane islamic states in the world, not increase them.
The world should be seeking to remove ALL signs and symbols of islam; so that future generations are not brainwashed with the mental poison of islamic lessons in violence, vengeance and barbarism.
Insane islam DOES NOT belong in the Balkans. Insane islam IS the root of the present problems in the Balkans; and ALL its signs and symbols should be eradicated, or shipped to the Arabian Peninsula.
So creating one more sign of insane islam, independent Kosovo, is only another source of problems for the people of the Balkans.
Kosovo, a place of a mere 2 million inhabitants CANNOT stand on its own apart from Serbia, without outside assistance.
As soon as the nonsensical NATO forces leave, the Serbs will RIGHTLY overturn the silly independence.
Also, why foolishly antagonize a nation with numerous nukes, the Russians (Serbia's close ally)?
US & EU should be seeking to ally themselves with the Russians and Chinese to tamp down on the insanity of maniac muslims
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Posted By: alba.destiny @ 02/24/2008 5:26:37 PM
To historiane2008: If you stop copy-paste from Serbian websites, like kosovo.com or .net (which were shut down by USA and EU a couple days ago for showing the lies) and other .ru or .yu sites, then I am not going to talk about true face of Serbian or all Slavic people. Anyway, the world knows the truth, but I just cant stand you lying, I know you are nothing different from the other Slavic liars and thieves including Greeks that stole Albanian history. I want to let the past go if you start talking the truth. I just want to mention one good gesture of the Greece. The Greek minister of Culture Mihalis Liapis while returning two very old icons dating 2 centuries ago that represented Illyrian Gods Artemis and Apollos, and which were stolen in 1991 from Museum of Butrinit to Albanian authorities, said: By this move we are giving example to others around the world to follow the same gesture in representing the truth about history. There are so many God icons to be return to Albanians now after independence of Kosova. Greek Gods that they represent their history, are in many fact Illyrians, that???s why Slavic people including Greeks tried for centuries to not accept Albanians as Illyrians not let them get educated because all lie about who the Slavic and Greeks are will come out. All I have to say that we blame our leaders for everything, why after WW2 they made people take the side with Russia and not western powers. Imagine where would Albanians be today if we chose to go with West after WW2, but still it is not too late, in a very short period of time we would look at Slavic people as animals in the yard.
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Posted By: historian2008 @ 02/24/2008 3:04:22 PM
Texas, then you???re the dummies person I have ever seen..
All Slavic people including Greeks are liars, thieves, arrogant, not trustable and nonhumans..
Slavic disgusting animals ..
under stinky Slavic evil,..
there is no animal in humans, except in Slavic people,..
All these racist rhetoric indicates that you need to be removed from this list and never be able to present your opinion which is biased and sick.
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Posted By: historian2008 @ 02/24/2008 3:04:06 PM
Texas, then you???re the dummies person I have ever seen..
All Slavic people including Greeks are liars, thieves, arrogant, not trustable and nonhumans..
Slavic disgusting animals ..
under stinky Slavic evil,..
there is no animal in humans, except in Slavic people,..
All these racist rhetoric indicates that you need to be removed from this list and never be able to present your opinion which is biased and sick.
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Posted By: alba.destiny @ 02/24/2008 12:28:03 PM
To TEXAS: If you???re from Texas, then you???re the dummies person I have ever seen. If you are Serb or Russian, then good you finally realized, that there is no chance to have any control over Kosova never ever anymore in the history of humans. Albania got independence in 1912 now Kosova in 2008, so I believe things will work much faster in the future and other parts populated with Albanians will get freedom from Serb evil. We Albanians knew why the USA and EU helped us. A question comes: why these western countries, didn't trust Serbs or any other Slavic people, including Greeks? All Slavic people including Greeks are liars, thieves, arrogant, not trustable and nonhumans (no mercy in their heart), better said they are garbage of the Europe, DID YOU SEE PROTEST OF ANIMAL GREEKS IN ATHENA? THEY BURNED USA AND EU FLAG. GREECE DIDN???T EVEN HAVE FOOD TO EAT AFTER WW2 WHEN USA AND EUROPE HELPED THEM, SO THAT???S HOW YOU APRICIATE THE ONES THAT FEED YOU? PLEASE FACE THE TRUTH EUROPEANS DOESN???T WANT SLAVIC PEOPLE IN EUROPE, THEY WILL DESTROY HUMAN CULTURE, PERIODDDDD. The truth is that the USA and EU figured out by liberating Albanians will gain trust to us and we will accept their need to have Army base in our country. After all this help, for sure we will never bother them, in many fact we will help them in order to keep Slavic disgusting animals out of getting into Europe. Anyway, Serbs used and misused everything in Kosova, so what we Albanians loose? We gained from all this, we will be free to go to school, use our natural sources and have freedom by being integrated in Europe. Hundreds of years under stinky Slavic evil, history has shown that there is no animal in humans, except in Slavic people, that???s why even Europe doesn???t want them. I guess I don???t have words to describe the true face of Slavic people. No matter what USA and EU will do to us Albanians for sure cant be worst then what nonhuman Slavic???s did.
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Posted By: For Serb freedom @ 02/17/2008 7:39:27 PM
Djindjic was nothing more than a puppet for the west, he rose to prominance via US blood money, please don't tell our Serb nation who is a hero. Everyone in Europe is misinformed about Kosovo and to sit there and analyse something like the creation of a proxy second nation for Albania that is nothing more than a land grab in modern day Europe. Give it two years the so-called liberated will want to combine their territory with the motherland Albania. Hence then comes sepratist movements in Macedonia, Montenegro, Greece all emboldened by their success in Kosovo via sheer terror. As for the ground breaking politicians of Europe shame on you all, lets break up your country and see how much you like it.
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Posted By: topikuq @ 02/17/2008 8:00:43 PM
What are you taking about US blood money and europe breaking up your country. You're president the one that you guys elected to represent your country went on and on killing 1000's of bosnians and kosovars. Did you fortget of all women and children that were killed at cold blood by your and russian mercenaries Unlike you, where you are too afraid to stand up to your leader, they had to do something and get out that dictatorship.
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Posted By: Luty @ 02/24/2008 7:28:23 AM
What about his last sentences? Please forgive me my seemingly bold question but wouldn't you think that Macedonia (and maybe Greece, and Monte Negro) would be the next? I am simply unable to see any logical explanation for what was happening in FYRO Macedonia just several years before if we interpret the actions of the secession groups in the Souther Balkans in this century only as a response to massacres of thousands of bosnian muslims and kosovo albanians, inspired by Mr.Milosevic and carried out in cold blood by "For Serb Freedom"'s countrymen and their Russian mercenary cronies. I tried to follow your line of thinking and found myself rather perplexed because Macedonia (mentioned in the first post in this thread here) does not seem to fit in there... Please, be so generous to grant me the liberty of disagreeing with you, but I see myself compelled to leave my huble nore here, namely that the process of creating a Greater Albania which we witness now has a far deeper roots than you would think. By-the-by, I would recommend that you should make yourself familiar with other points of view on the subject (and a lot more moderate ones), let's take this French ex-minister's article in Le Figaro http://www.lefigaro.fr/debats/2008/02/20/01005-20080220ARTFIG00655-la-reconnaissance-du-kosovo-c-est-une-triple-faute.php for starters.
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Posted By: to fact @ 02/17/2008 10:00:22 PM
First look at the history??? do not be ignorant about what has been going on for a long time Kosovo is an Albanian nation. It always was and always will be even when they did not have their independence they still called themselves Albanian because they are so do some research ahead of time. And "freedom for Serb" they are free they are also greedy because they want something that does not belong to them. I am looking forward to the day when Kosovo will finally become a part of Albania as it always should have been because they are 1 people they are Albanian and not even the many years of separation has that been forgotten.
-so congratulation to Kosovo after many years of living as prisoners you are free :-)
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Posted By: mira_cccc @ 02/22/2008 10:54:20 AM
alba.destiny.....you sound like an idiot....reading your gibberish....which can hardly be called in english....has given me a heahache. go read a book. thanks
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Posted By: alba.destiny @ 02/22/2008 2:23:56 PM
I read so many books and am one of 80% of Albanians that can read and write in many other languages other than Albanian, not as you dummy Serbs that hardly can speak your own language (except reporters that must know some other languages). Time has shown how smart can Albanians be. In 1974 we got university, before that every Albanian trying to get educated were tortured and even killed, in period of couple of years after getting our University we Albanians got all Serbian jobs and stopped letting Serbia use our natural resources to build their cities (compare cities in Serbia with the one in Kosova), soon after Tito died Albanians were able to use their vote in Yugoslavian federation and get to have Albanian president of Yugoslavia. All this was deadly for Serbs so they started using force by sending heavily armed troops from other parts of Serbia and even poisoning Albanian children in elementary schools (do you think world don???t know about all this). Until that time in government jobs were mostly Serbs sent from Serbia, because Albanians were not educated and never allowed to get educated. I know so many would ask how did Albanians got to have university, answer to this is that Tito was forced to change constitution of Yugoslavia in 1974 after creating Independent Pact with Nasser and Nehru. So many countries interested to leave NATO pact or Varsava Pact and become members of this Independent Pact asked Tito why he is not giving rights to Albanians in Yougoslavia, which are third population in this country. Tito answered as he has no knowledge of no rights for Albanians in Kosova and in short period of time discharged cetnik Alexander Rankovic as person in charge for Kosova. Alexander Rankoviq by using Vasa Cubrilovic plan expelled to different parts of the world more than 400000 Albanians from Kosova. My father was telling me how road of more than 10 miles from city of Peja ( Pec) to Gjakova ( dzakovica) in both sides had trees in which were hanging Albanians, they were man , woman and ever children, don???t be surprised because Serbs have no mercy in any human ( do you think world doesn???t know about all this ? ). To all Serbian historians, tell me why Alexander Rankovic was discharged from his government position and what was Vasa Cubrilovic plan for Albanians started in 30s before ww2. I guess you got to change your Serbian history books, and publish new once with the truth if you ever want to live in peace in this part of the world, lies are not working any more so give up the lies and face the truth. Kosova independent live or die with it.
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Posted By: Luty @ 02/24/2008 6:41:21 AM
I am so sorry seeing a person who starts making a judgement of other people just by their ethnical background... People are basically all alike, you know, the basic physiological features are the same... "Dummy Serbs", "Change your Serbian history books"... "Varsava Pact" - please, forgive me my ignorance, you misspelling the Warsaw Pact is due to the influence of your native language, am I right? No, as much as I respect you just like one civilized person should respect the other, please be so kind and follow through with my humble request to avoid simplifying historical facts down to the level of little man from the street, with all accents in place to fit within the self-imposed limits of your personal view. Please, read different books, for a change, different from those you are reading, to get a fuller picture, to see that the world is no longer black-and-white because they have already invented a color TV.
By the by, did Serbs really come "from Carpaths Russian in 7th century"? It sounds like a surprise (unless my memory failed me completely), since the Kievan Rus (the first Rusian, or Ukrainian, state - and Carpathian Ruthenians <Russians> as a matter of fact are in all reality Ukrainians - emerged only in 10th Century. So the exodus of Serbs (which you described in one of your posts) from Carpathian Russia (Russians?) must have taken place 2 centuries before the eastern slavs (and their territory) were called Rus for the first time... In other words, when the prehistoric slavs (western - poles, czechs, etc... and sothern - croatians, bulgarians, slovenians, serbs, etc.) migrated from the East into Europe, they left no Russia behind, which makes me believe that you remark that Serbs "were soldiers in Russia" is a little bit far-fetched, if you forgive me that word.
Should you resolve to comment my humble remarks here right after the first time you've read them please be so kind to forbear from using any depreciatory vocabulary - instead, I would beg you to take your time, think this all over, and thank you
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Posted By: Braes @ 02/17/2008 5:40:58 PM
Well this is time for big Ivan to put-up or shut up. It's one thing to buzz a carrier group in the patrol zones off of Japan. It's another to watch their slavic buddies take it in the shorts again. Me, if Ivan woulda asked and acted nice instead of thugging up, we wouldn't probably be planning Ossetian and Abkhazian movements to keep him busy. Ivan has a lot of subjugated people under his thumb. The Serbs? A joke.
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Posted By: rozen @ 02/17/2008 5:51:51 PM
USA will lose states near 2016.
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Posted By: Luty @ 02/24/2008 5:45:27 AM
"Be planning Ossetian and Abkhazian movements to keep him (Ivan) busy" - sorry for being so painstaking, but Abkhazia and South Ossetia a breakaway parts of Georgia, not Russia, so whatever happens on the sunny beaches of the first and snowy mountain peaks of the second is mainly the headache of Mr. Saakashvili, who is by no means an Ivan...
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Posted By: Braes @ 02/18/2008 4:08:19 AM
No, the secession movements here were repressed brutally. 1861-65. If you think Mexico has the economic or military power to invade and take US territory, then we will, just like the 1840's slaughter their tails all the way to Mexico City. As far as the Reconquista or La Raza types, or La Mecha, wait until the FBI gets a President who cracks down on non-white hate groups. In the meantime, they are self-deporting in droves because we aren't hiring them anymore and the NAFTA club is losing at the country club.
No Russia will dissolve. It has subjugated dozens of ethnic groups for hundreds of years. The rise in Russian influence is due to oil revenue, which is a diminishing commodity that the rest of the world is engineering solutions around. Russia will still be a backwards patch of unconnected wastelands interspersed by beautiful cities, and no economic clout.
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Posted By: historian2008 @ 02/24/2008 12:21:17 AM
The history of Serbia (and Kosovo ) may be found at http://kosovo.net/default3.html The same website also documents some of the fruits of the Albanian 'liberation' by NATO:
For example, along with the images from the war in 1999, (NATO operation 'Merciful Angel') the link http://kosovo.net/default2.html shows examples of destruction of the Serbian cultural heritage (mainly monasteries and churches). You can see the atrocities of the Albanian extremists in the pictures provided: Serbs are brutally killed, mutulated.
Kosovoand Metohija have been the spiritual heart of the Serbia for over 1000 years.
Before the military actions of the 90s there were 1800 Orthodox
cathedrals and monasteries, 200 of which date back to the times before
the 14th century when the Serbian Patriarchate was established in 1346. Kosovo and Metohija is sprinkled with castles where Serbian kings resided and the most important events of Serbian history took place.
Read the enlosed site to learn the truth.
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Posted By: ninoo @ 02/23/2008 9:00:15 PM
hisrory = history.........Sorry for this typing error.
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Posted By: texas @ 02/23/2008 8:55:30 PM
I live in Texas and have been reading these comments and can't belive either side .
US doesn't give a *** about Serbs or Albanians .
US goverment just need a military base in The Balkans.
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Posted By: ninoo @ 02/23/2008 8:53:36 PM
for historian 2008: This is hisrory......
Officially Recognized
Gracias!!!
Costa Rica
Recognition text (February 17, 2008 Local Time)
Thank You!!!
United States
Recognition text (February 18, 2008)
Merci!!!
France
Recognition text (February 18, 2008)
Tashakkur! Merci!!!
Afghanistan
Recognition text (February 18, 2008)
Faleminderit!!!
Albania
Recognition text (February 18, 2008)
Tesekkürler!!!
Turkey
Recognition text (February 18, 2008)
Thank You!!!
United Kingdom
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Thank You!!!
Australia
Recognition text (February 19, 2008)
Merci! Jërëjëf!!!
Senegal
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Terima kasih!!!
Malaysia
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Danke!!!
Germany
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Paldies!!!
Latvia
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Tak!!!
Denmark
Recognition text (February 21, 2008)
Tänan!!!
Estonia
Recognition text (February 21, 2008)
Grazie Mille!!!
Italy
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Merci! Danke!!!
Luxembourg
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Gracias!!!
Peru
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Dank u! Merci! !!!
Belgium
Kiitos!!!
Finland
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Labai achiu!!!
Lithuania
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Danke schön!!!
Austria
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Tusen takk!!!
Norway
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