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  • Posted By: vangeli @ 02/23/2008 5:35:43 PM

    To Histrsian 2008....According to your thinking you know the history of Vatican better than Pope himself???...Since when do you think you know the history of Albania better than an Albanian himself??? I agree that you might know some but not in full or in the measure than an albanian historian himself...
    Since you are talking about respecting this and that and law etc...etc....i wander why those people from Kosovo want to be independent ...and...since Serbians treated the Kosovo people with respect, love, righteousness, law, dignity...I really wander why a people treated with all this kindness from serbians wants to be indipendent??? Maybe you can answer this...
    Thanks

  • Posted By: historian2008 @ 02/23/2008 4:59:32 PM

    For all the people who are interested in learning the truth about Kosovo supported with documents, photographs, reports please read the following:
    An overview of the historical info about Serbia (and thus about Kosovo too) may be found at http://kosovo.net/default3.html The same website also documents some of the fruits of the Albanian 'liberation' by NATO:
    For example, along with the images from the war in 1999, (NATO operation 'Merciful Angel') the link http://kosovo.net/default2.html shows examples of destruction of the Serbian cultural heritage (mainly monasteries and churches), which occured (long) after the bombing was over.

  • Posted By: historian2008 @ 02/23/2008 4:41:24 PM

    You, an Albanian, certainly know the history of your country better than any historian in the world, because you grew up with your country folk songs and ballads. They make you strong and love your country.
    But let me give you another example from history (which you surely know). In 1453 Byzantium fell to the Ottoman Empire. What used to be Byzantium was brutally marauded. Myriads of Christians were killed and Orthodox Temples were pillaged, burnt and leveled to the ground. The most precious Christian relics were looted and perished for ever. Byzantium, the stronghold of Eastern Orthodox Church, was utterly destroyed. Constantinople, Byzantium capital, used to proudly stand on the site of what is now Istanbul, what became the capital of Ottoman's Empire and Turkey now. Does it give any right to the Greeks or Orthodox Christians to declare Istanbul the capital of Byzantium again, declare a newly independent state of Byzantium based on the fact of the historic losses? Greece stays in the borders defined by history and law, and respects the law of present day Turkey. Law makes us all one happy world community, and prevents crazy ideas from destroying peace and integrity of every country on earth.

  • Posted By: historian2008 @ 02/23/2008 4:37:32 PM

    You, an Albanian, certainly know the history of your country better than any historian in the world, because you grew up with your country folk songs and ballads. They make you strong and love your country.
    But let me give you another example from history (which you surely know). In 1453 Byzantium fell to the Ottoman Empire. What used to be Byzantium was brutally marauded. Myriads of Christians were killed and Orthodox Temples were pillaged, burnt and leveled to the ground. The most precious Christian relics were looted and perished for ever. Byzantium, the stronghold of Eastern Orthodox Church, was utterly destroyed. Constantinople, Byzantium capital, used to proudly stand on the site of what is now Istanbul, what became the capital of Ottoman's Empire and Turkey now. Does it give any right to the Greeks or any Orthodox Christians to declare Istanbul the capital of Byzantium again, declare a newly independent state of Byzantium based on the fact of the historic losses? Greece stays in the borders defined by history and law, and respect the law of present day Turkey. Law makes us all one happy world community, and prevents crazy ideas from destroying peace and integrity of every country on earth.

  • Posted By: historian2008 @ 02/23/2008 4:03:28 PM

    It is wonderful that you are proud of your heritage! Albania has a lot of cultural heritage of the peoples who populated its territory dating back to the the 5th - 6th BC. American Indians populated the Americas for many thousand years before the Spanish and the British came. It does not allow us to cut the map of Americas, move all American Indians from the US reservations and from all the South America into one place and declare an Independent country. We respect the history of the USA and the idea of cutting a new map will not come to the craziest of the minds here. History changes maps and we have to respect the laws. Russia used to be a tiny country and owing to acquisition of lands it became the biggest in the world. The Great Britain have lost the US territories and does it give it the right to demand it back now in the 21st century? NO!!! The same with the Serbs who have populated the territory of the Balkans from the 6th century AD. We must respect present day laws and respect national historic, cultural, spiritual heritage of every country in the world!

  • Posted By: vangeli @ 02/23/2008 12:09:07 PM

    TO HISTORIAN 2008...NOW I KNOW THAT YOU ARE NOT A TRUE HISTORIAN...OR KNOW MANY WORDS BUT NOT THE TRUTH ...OR...I AM AFRAID YOU ARE AFRAID OF THE TRUTH....WHY???
    BECAUSE THE ANSWER WAS VERY VERY EASY...AND EVERYONE THAT HAS THE SMALLEST KNOWLEDGE ABOUT HISTORY KNOWS THAT....ALBANIANS ARE BY FAR OLDER THAN SERBIANS ON THE REGION AND MAYBE ALBANIANS ARE THE OLDEST PEOPLE IN EUROPE.....
    HAVING SAID THIS,...I DO NOT BELEIVE YOUR "STORIES" ANY MORE...UNLESS YOU SAY THE TRUTH...
    ALL THE BESTS TO YOU....

  • Posted By: alba.destiny @ 02/23/2008 11:59:18 AM

    To historian2008 , For individuals like you, many wars are waged today in the world. If Illyrians gradually disappeared and were replaced by the Bulgars, Serbs, Croats and Bosnians which all are Slavic, then would you tell me where the Albanians came from, which are not Slavic? As a kid, I do remember the answer of a Serb historian, he said the Albanians came from the moon, do you think the same? The Serbian nation is built on self-created history, history is written by the winners, so Albanians were all the time occupied and never had a chance to write their true history. Songs and words of mouth saved most of Albanian history, which were carried from generation to generation. Thanks to today???s archeology, the truth is surfacing, so whatever you say is not making any sense, your words may make influence to some uneducated people, but it doesn't matter, because the highly educated ones already know the truth. I believe all your history came from Serbian, Greek or any other Slavic books, so talking to you will just waist my time. If you think you have proof of what you say, then you are welcome to come to independent Kosova one day and share your knowledge with our historians. I know for sure you???ll change your opinion by hearing the truth about Balkan and Albanian people (Bush, Clinton, Blair, Solana even French government close ally of Serbs, and many others, did change their mind about Albanians, so you???ll do too).

  • Posted By: historian2008 @ 02/23/2008 2:57:26 AM

    Some historians consider (opinions differ) Albanians to be the descendents of one Illyrian tribe that was named Albanoi which was located in modern-day Albania. There is no proof that this hypothesis is true and the origins of Albanians has been for some time a matter of dispute among historians.
    The fall of the Western Roman Empire and the age of great migrations in the early Middle Ages brought radical changes to the Balkan Peninsula which was populated by the Illyrian people. Barbarian tribesmen overran many rich Roman cities, destroying the existing social and economic order and leaving the great Roman aqueducts, coliseums, temples, and roads in ruins. The Illyrians gradually disappeared as a distinct people from the Balkans, replaced by the Bulgars, Serbs, Croats, Bosnians and Albanians and their lands were gradually overtaken by them. The first historical mention of Albania and the Albanians as such appears in an account of the resistance by a Byzantine emperor Alexiu I Commenus.
    As far as Kosovo history concerned (should be truly called Metohija which means "the church estate" in Serbian) please read my historic notes which I posted yesterday.

  • Posted By: historian2008 @ 02/23/2008 2:56:44 AM

    I am not a professor but an educator: a college instructor and a pedagogue.
    My job allows me to extensively travel both to different parts of Russia and Europe. Due to my profession I am an educator in the first place and always find time for a good discussion and for teaching.
    Your mentality is outdated and is still in the last century. You should update yourself on the changes that have taken place since the last millennium. Both hands have fed and cared about me, a Russian hand and an American hand, and I am very grateful to both of them. When I work in Russia I open the eyes of those Russians who are still asleep and have not got out of the cold war mentality (usually they are very old folks). Here in the USA I open the eyes to those who need some help. I am happy that I serve as a bridge and can show and tell the best about both countries and cultures.
    Here are some sites that will acquaint you with some Russian cities, spiritual centers, and you may want to go and visit them. You will be amazed! Here is the website of St.Petersburg, my beloved city,where I come from. You can take a virtual tour around the city as well as around its magnificent environs: http://www.saint-petersburg.com/virtual-tour/
    http://www.saint-petersburg.com/video/index.asp

  • Posted By: historian2008 @ 02/23/2008 2:56:30 AM

    Here is the website of the Moscow Patriarchate in English: http://www.mospat.ru/index.php?lng=1
    Here is Valaam, mount Athos of the North (http://valaam.ru/en/), Here is the site with videos of Valaam and http://valaam.ru/en/video/ which show gorgeous Scenes of Valaam, interviews with monks ??? beautiful faces. Here is the website featuring Sochi (http://www.sochi.ru/info/foto.htm), the beautiful resort town on the coast of the Black Sea. The site presents wonderful pictures of the city of Sochi which is the largest city in Europe, 145 kilometers long along the coast of the Black Sea and 80 miles deep into the Caucasus Mountains. The Olympic games of 2014 will be held there.

  • Posted By: historian2008 @ 02/23/2008 2:56:11 AM

    Russia has always been a big friend of Serbia and will always supported its sovereignty. It is time for the world countries to come to solutions only by mutual agreement, on no account unilaterally. As an Albanian you may dream to be independent in Kosovo, but it is unrealistic and impossible, because there is LAW. The disruption of the sovereign country's constitution is an equivalent of the declaration of WAR. According to the Constitution of Serbia Kosovo IS an autonomous region. You are given all the rights to enjoy your autonomy. Nobody cares about what the US President or Russian President think. All abide by the LAW. And the sovereign country's constitution is the first and most important LAW for all the country!!! If you are unhappy as an Albanian in Serbia you can immigrate to Albania. It is also LEGAL.

  • Posted By: historian2008 @ 02/23/2008 2:43:40 AM

    Some historian consider (opinions differ) Albanians to be the descendents of one Illyrian tribe that was named Albanoi which was located in modern-day Albania. There is no proof that this hypothesis is true and the origins of Albanians has been for some time a matter of dispute among historians.
    The fall of the Western Roman Empire and the age of great migrations in the early Middle Ages brought radical changes to the Balkan Peninsula which was populated by the Illyrian people. Barbarian tribesmen overran many rich Roman cities, destroying the existing social and economic order and leaving the great Roman aqueducts, coliseums, temples, and roads in ruins. The Illyrians gradually disappeared as a distinct people from the Balkans, replaced by the Bulgars, Serbs, Croats, Bosnians and Albanians and their lands were gradually overtaken by them. The first historical mention of Albania and the Albanians as such appears in an account of the resistance by a Byzantine emperor Alexiu I Commenus.
    As far as Kosovo history concerned (should be truly called Metohija which means "the church estate" in Serbian) please read my historic notes which I posted yesterday.

  • Posted By: vangeli @ 02/23/2008 1:00:03 AM

    TO HISTORIAN 2008...I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU ....PLEASE, BE VERY VERY SHORT AND PRECISE ON THE ANSWER SINCE YOU ARE A HISTORIAN...AND PLEASE...JUST SAY ONE OR THE OTHER AND NO MORE EXPLANATION...HERE IT IS THE QUESTION....

    WHICH ONE OF THESE TWO PEOPLE IS THE OLDEST OF THESE TWO IN THE REGION WHERE THEY LIVE THUS FAR...

    1. ALBANIANS....OR 2. SERBIANS...

    PLEASE, BE VERY SHORT NO MORE EXPLANATIONS....THIS OR THAT...
    THANKS

  • Posted By: TonyM @ 02/23/2008 12:03:07 AM

    to historian2008 :
    You should move to Russia. Just make sure you leave your passport behind. Hope you do not have one. Bit the hand that feeds and cares for you. Go to Russia since they are doing so well. Quite a propaganda, for a country where the standard of living is low, where opposition is harrassed, where free press is killed. America is better off without people like you, since Russia and Serbia have enough Historians, you might be lucky and teach english.
    Law matters? Serbia did not care about law when butchered the bosnians, kosovar albanians and started the wars. MOVE ON, THIS WILL BE THE NEW SERBIA's SONG. And if you want to stay still, dont kill as you
    A real professor does not spend countless hour in this blog, a pseudo professor does.

  • Posted By: alba.destiny @ 02/21/2008 11:32:29 PM

    This will be my last comment so just to remind everyone including Serbs, which are not Kosova citizens; they will need visa to cross the border. If Serbia doesn't recognize Kosova then your passports will not be valid and can???t come to the Republic of Kosova, sorry that???s what our constitution and international law says no exceptions. hahahahaha

    • Posted By: kosovare girl @ 02/22/2008 10:56:58 PM

      ahhaah alba- payback is a ***!!! serbs are going to know who the real albanians are.. enogh is enogh!!

      Gezuarrrrrrr Free Kosovaaaaaa Forever!!!

    • Posted By: bora @ 02/22/2008 1:07:15 AM

      You will never get into United Nations neither in OEBS, because Albanians are wild radical Muslim people, supporting terrorism. Since 1999 more then 300 mosques were build on the Kosovo territory, almost all financially supported by Saudi Arabia.

      I recommend to all Christians as well as to all citizens of United States and European Union to buy and watch movie: ???Islam: what the West needs to know???. Here is link:

      http://www.amazon.com/Islam-What-West-Needs-Know/dp/B000PE0GQO/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1203660765&sr=8-3

      Christian America and Europe forever.

      • Posted By: alba.destiny @ 02/22/2008 10:39:28 AM

        Serbs tried in 90s to make the world believe that Albanians are Muslim radicals not thinking at all that there are Albanian orthodox and Christians. It didn't work as in Bosnia because the world knew the truth that Albanian Muslim would rather married Albanian orthodox or Christian then someone of another people with Muslim religion. To Albanians it is important to be an Albanian, so religion of Albanians is Albanian. During Turkish Ottoman Empire most of Albanians living in Kosova converted to Muslim religion after being terrorized and massacred by Turks and their best ally Serbs. During this time Albanian Muslims got some right and were able to destroy Albanian orthodox or catholic but it didn't happen, in the fact they got together and fought against Turks. Your words are not supported by any fact at all, so read what the world historian say about you not what you think about your self or Serbian historian liars??? say. In matter of days more than half of the world accepted Kosovas independent from which firs were European Christian countries, are you telling me the people of these countries are good with history of Kosova or their government. In western world people are busy and can???t read much about someone???s history but their government must and it is aware of the truth that why they accepted Kosova independence in matter of days. Come on Serbs wake up and get real, living in dreams and lies will not take you anywhere.

      • Posted By: alba.destiny @ 02/22/2008 10:38:06 AM

        Serbs tried in 90s to make the world believe that Albanians are Muslim radicals not thinking at all that there are Albanian orthodox and Christians. It didn't work as in Bosnia because the world knew the truth that Albanian Muslim would rather married Albanian orthodox or Christian then someone of another people with Muslim religion. To Albanians it is important to be an Albanian, so religion of Albanians is Albanian. During Turkish Ottoman Empire most of Albanians living in Kosova converted to Muslim religion after being terrorized and massacred by Turks and their best ally Serbs. During this time Albanian Muslims got some right and were able to destroy Albanian orthodox or catholic but it didn't happen, in the fact they got together and fought against Turks. Your words are not supported by any fact at all, so read what the world historian say about you not what you think about your self or Serbian historian liars??? say. In matter of days more than half of the world accepted Kosovas independent from which firs were European Christian countries, are you telling me the people of these countries are good with history of Kosova or their government. In western world people are busy and can???t read much about someone???s history but their government must and it is aware of the truth that why they accepted Kosova independence in matter of days. Come on Serbs wake up and get real, living in dreams and lies will not take you anywhere.

  • Posted By: historian2008 @ 02/22/2008 10:14:44 PM

    Kosovo will never bee recognized by the UN and by the reasonable world community. The Albanians in Kosovo can (based on the world historic experience) happily have their own autonomy which they have always had. The Albanians can prosper and enjoy freedoms, but without participation of those separatists who want to have personal gains. The fact that the USA and some European countries
    declared their support for Kosovo's independence does not matter at alland does nothave any weight.
    The LAW MATTERS AND MAKES HISTORY. Where there was no law there were wars and losses. The Law, the UN and Serbia supported by the integrity of its Consitution, WILL NEVER recognize Kosovo together with those countries who support peace and integrity of the world community.

  • Posted By: historian2008 @ 02/22/2008 10:11:03 PM

    Comment: As an American of Russian decent I see the advantage for the USA to cooperate with the strongest rising economy in the world. Russia very selectively chooses investments from outside. It has a 100% self sufficient economy. It can provide for its own economy with its both natural and human resources. Overpopulation in China and India does not allow to supply their people with enough. In Russia its rich big land/population ratio
    allows to raise every citizen's standard of living to the highest level and provide for others in the world.
    As a historian I see the mistakes that the whole world has repeatedly made. As soon as we all become reasonable, appreciative and respective of others, the traditions, historic/spiritual legacies of every member of the world community , as soon as we get rid of the biased attitude, prejudices and judgment, as soon as we unconditionally respect each other's autonomy
    and independence, we will all succeed in our relations.

  • Posted By: historian2008 @ 02/22/2008 8:57:46 PM

    As an American of Russian decent I see the advantage for the USA to cooperate with the strongest rising economy in the world. Russia very selectively choses investments from outside.It has a 100% self sufficient economy. It can provide for its own economy with its both natural and human resources. Overpopulation in China and India does not allow to supply their people with enough. In Russia its rich big/population ratio
    allows to raise every citizen's standard of living to the highest level and provide for others in the world. As a historian I see the mistakes that the whole world has repeatedly made. As soon as we all become reasonable, appreciative and respective of others, each the traditions, historic/spiritual legacies of member of the world community , as soon as we get rid of the bias and judgment and respect each other autonomy
    and independence, we will all succeed in our relations.

  • Posted By: historian2008 @ 02/22/2008 8:57:31 PM

    I know, as an American of Russian decent, that Russia wants friendship and cooperation with the USA. Whenever I am in Russia I do no see any bias or prejudices in mass media against the USA. I see objective criticism and appreciation of any reasonable step on the part of the USA towards Russia or other countries. There is still a lot to work on in Russia, but much more to work on in the USA with its tremendous debts and collapsing social security system. In Russia still there is quite efficient public health care including the private one as well.

  • Posted By: historian2008 @ 02/22/2008 8:57:05 PM

    Yes, there is prostitution in Russia as well as here in the USA (on a much lager scale).
    But crime is much less than in the USA. There is corruption but not on the scale of the USA where corruption became part of the internal politics presented under "different kinds of sauces". Being an Orthodox Christian I see that thousands of Orthodox churches, monasteries have been restored and thousands of new churches are being built. At the same time other
    religious denominations, muslims, buddhists, jews, who have always been part of Russia (Russian empire) can attend their temples freely. There have been created some protestant denomination in Russia and they are doing just fine. Russia is an Orthodox Country and historically was before 1917. Having borders with Asia and Far East Russia learned to appreciate and live in peace with the countries which profess different religions. Orthodoxy is all inclusive.

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