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  • Posted By: oscargm @ 02/21/2008 6:02:48 PM

    In 1861 the USA had a war to stop exactly what they are backing up in Serbia. Kosovo is part of Serbia just like the southern states were part of the USA then. To back up kosovans in their idea of independence without them having a viable economy and the north of Kosovo (the really rich area of the territory) moving back to stay with Serbia, it is ridiculous and a mistake for the USA to back this movement. In the USA Maine is creating a movement to secede from the USA because they say Washington does not represent their interests. I'll be very interesting to see how Washington is going to deal with this. If they agree with Kosovo's independence, Washington has to reason to deny Maine it's own independence.

    • Posted By: turn_middle_east_into_a_peice_of_glass @ 02/21/2008 7:09:37 PM

      big differance moran you better read your history book thats was for slaves

  • Posted By: fdchicago @ 02/21/2008 7:09:36 PM

    Unfortunately, very weak analysis of the situation is presented on this article.Obviously there is an enormous bias view toward serbs, but I believe this author (of Newsweek?!) is stating strong negative and poor vision of the future of the region.My only comment on this article is that does he really understand how new states are created and developed into modern sovereign countries?
    This would not be the first state created under the existing conditions.During history, there were a lots of countries that were established on fairly weak economies, but later developed into strong societies.

  • Posted By: turn_middle_east_into_a_peice_of_glass @ 02/21/2008 7:06:22 PM

    i think if they want to govern themself let and if they fail *** em

  • Posted By: turn_middle_east_into_a_peice_of_glass @ 02/21/2008 7:05:07 PM

    i think that if they want to govern themselfs let and if they fail *** them

  • Posted By: alban_ks @ 02/21/2008 4:30:26 PM

    you boring serbians, go look at you problems, because we managed to live and go forward without you, not just us, also Slovenia, Croatia, Bosnia, Montenegro, Macedonia, now us Kosova, only you are there were you have been since Josip Broz Tito died. You said a failed state?? How can we be a failed state when our independence was recognized by worlds most powerful nations, like USA, Great Britain, Germany, France, Italy....? You are boring.....

    • Posted By: doesntmatter @ 02/21/2008 4:40:34 PM

      letting Kosovo be independent is like letting a toddler be independent.

      • Posted By: jskender1942 @ 02/21/2008 6:59:02 PM

        How many babies where given the name George since King George of USA visited Albania and secured a nice airbase as he has in Turkey and in Crete and in Malta and in Soudi Arabia? Thats why the Albanians were given the present of declaring Kosovo a new Balkan nation.

  • Posted By: demmyxrist @ 02/21/2008 6:10:08 PM

    I think the attack on American embassy by Serbians is wrong. If America supports an independent Kosovo it is only expressing its own right. The Ethnic Albanians who live in Kosovo reserve the right to decide how they want to be led. The Serbians should concenntrate on solving their own economic and social problem rather than fighting over an independent Kosovo. How well has the leadership of Serbia feared in Serbia let alone bothering themselves about an independent Kosovo which has not been under their rule anyway in the last nine years. I think the the Serbian are just looking forward to continue their oppression of the ethnic Albanians in Kosovo. I praise the International community for their quick recognition of Independent Kososvo. As for Rusiia Vladmit Putin has an unpopular agenda of polarising world power which is doomed to fail eventually.

    • Posted By: doesntmatter @ 02/21/2008 6:15:22 PM

      "America expresses its own right"
      Please shut up you have no clue what you are talking about.

  • Posted By: demmyxrist @ 02/21/2008 6:12:30 PM

    I think the attack on American embassy by Serbians is wrong. If America supports an independent Kosovo it is only expressing its own right. The Ethnic Albanians who live in Kosovo reserve the right to decide how they want to be led. The Serbians should concenntrate on solving their own economic and social problem rather than fighting over an independent Kosovo. How well has the leadership of Serbia feared in Serbia let alone bothering themselves about an independent Kosovo which has not been under their rule anyway in the last nine years. I think the the Serbian are just looking forward to continue their oppression of the ethnic Albanians in Kosovo. I praise the International community for their quick recognition of Independent Kososvo. As for Rusiia Vladmit Putin has an unpopular agenda of polarising world power which is doomed to fail eventually.

  • Posted By: mgjoni @ 02/21/2008 6:02:52 PM

    Kosovo belongs to the Kosovars now. It will never be a place where Serbia can exploit its resources and people. Those that don't support the initiative simply don't understand the mechanics of a society that has been forcifully depressed by years of communist rule by the somewhat tolerable years of Tito's rule and the Nazi-like rule of Milosevic.

    • Posted By: doesntmatter @ 02/21/2008 6:10:16 PM

      OOOO I feel bad for you because Milosevis didn't provide you with free condoms, so you don't multiply like freaking monkey

  • Posted By: akitattari @ 02/17/2008 4:33:31 PM

    The good news is that this time there is no war. Government of Serbia even decided to invest in Internet and use new ways to achieve its goals. Its decision to buy kosovo.com as a premium internet location is one of few examples that things are moving in the right direction is Serbia.

    Jon

    • Posted By: curtisireland7 @ 02/17/2008 4:40:58 PM

      We still need to see will Serbia get at least kosovo.com or is gonna be 2:0 for Kosovo Albanians :)

      • Posted By: gypsydust @ 02/17/2008 9:18:14 PM

        Is this merely another example of the failure of the "ideal" Nation-States? after all borders drawn by governments do not necessarily serve a majority. As history illustrates, the land within the borders serves the few with power. Because the idea of the Nation-State was meant to engage people, to join them in an imagined community under the umbrella of "One" national identity, this has been problematic throughout the world. Since many of the peoples within Serbia and Kosovo are indigenous, it highlights the difficulties with the modern system and asks deeper, more far reaching questions.
        More evidence of such squabbles and problems with identity run rampant throughout every area that has been colonized previously, especially in Africa.

        Perhaps, Kosovo begs the questions, "Just whom does a Nation-State serve and protect? What guarantees does a large government offer when it is bureaucratically far removed from the people it is supposed to serve and protect?

        • Posted By: JackM @ 02/21/2008 6:07:50 PM

          90% Albanians in Kosovo... Yes, but check the figures before 1999. Or even since 1920s. And then take into account that Kosovo has the highest natiality rate in Europe. And many illegal imigrants. But hey, let the world feed Kosovo instead of Srbia. Better for Serbs, they´ll get over partiotism soon once the next years´s budget issue comes up.

      • Posted By: ricinct @ 02/21/2008 2:26:17 PM

        SHAME ON THE GERMAN GOVERMENT!!! WHAT IS BEING DONE TO SERBIA IS WHAT HAPPENED TO GERMANY AFTER WW2...WHY SHOULD GERMANS BE FORCED OUT OF SILESIA,POMERANIA,PRUSSIA AND THE SUDETENLAND..COLLECT GUILT???..THEN AMERICA SHOULD RETURN THE SOUTHWEST TO MEXICO...AND THE REST OF THE COUNTRY TO NATIVE AMERICANS...IF ALBANIANS WANT THERE CULTURE THEY SHOULD MOVE TO ALBANIA..THIS IS A RETURN TO MISGUIDED AMERICAN INTERFERENCE IN EUROPEAN AFFAIRS...THERE WOULD NEVER HAVE BEEN A WW2 OR HITLER IF WOODROW WILSON HAD NOT CHANGED THE COURSE OF WW1...BUT NOTE THAT ALMOST EVERY COUNTRY CREATED AFTER THE VERSAILLE TREATY IS GONE...YUGOSLAVIA,CZECHOSLOVAKIA,AND THE TRUE POLAND!!!...LET EURO'S DECIDE THEIR OWN DESTINY WITHOUT ANGLO-AMERICAN INTERFENTION...WHICH IS USUALLY CONTER-PRODUCTIVE

  • Posted By: oscargm @ 02/21/2008 6:00:30 PM

    In 1861 the USA had a war to stop exactly what they are backing up in Serbia. Kosovo is part of Serbia just like the southern states were part of the USA then. To back up kosovans in their idea of independence without them having a viable economy and the north of Kosovo (the really rich area of the territory) moving back to stay with Serbia, it is ridiculous and a mistake for the USA to back this movement. In the USA Maine is creating a movement to secede from the USA because they say Washington does not represent their interests. I'll be very interesting to see how Washington is going to deal with this. If they agree with Kosovo's independence, Washington has to reason to deny Maine it's own independence.

  • Posted By: mgjoni @ 02/21/2008 5:21:11 PM

    Its hard to assume that the US can justly handle all foreign matters nor should we be expected to. However, it is comforting that the US was able to justly handle the Kosvo question by aiding independence.

  • Posted By: TonyM @ 02/21/2008 4:41:38 PM

    mrsavizdrav /ITdoesmatter:
    Kosova had its university untill 1989 in ALBANIAN. Over 90% of population Albanian and you would like to deny them that? This is why Kosova is better on its own that with Serbian like you. Like you care......MOVE ON, MOVE ON, THIS IS YOUR NEW SONG.

    • Posted By: doesntmatter @ 02/21/2008 5:18:45 PM

      What were the majors: how to be a criminal, selling kids to Europeans, drug dealing?
      What was your major?

    • Posted By: mrsavizdrav @ 02/21/2008 4:59:04 PM

      I was a minority in Serbia too, and we had no higher education in our language. My minority paid taxes, which was not always the case with Albanians (unemployed and living on welfare).

  • Posted By: jskender1942 @ 02/21/2008 5:13:39 PM

    HAVE THE UNITED STATES NOT CREATED ENOUGH UNIVERSAL HAVOC BY INVADING A SOVEREIGN NATION OF IRAQ AND NOW THEY HAVE DISTABLISED THE BALKANS BY ALLOWING 2 MILLION ALBENIAN MOSLEMS DECLARE INDEPENDANCE IN KOSOVO. IF THE US IS PRESENTING THE WORLD WITH REAL JUSTIFICATION IN THEIR DASTARDLY ACTS WHY DONT THEY ALLOW SOUTH EASTER TURKEY DECLARE A NEW COUNTRY OF KURDISTAN WHERE 20 MILLION KURDS LIVE UNDER HORENDOUS CONDITIONS OF SLAVERY.

  • Posted By: sen_sdi @ 02/21/2008 4:41:06 PM

    Serbs need to get a life of their own in their own land. not in bosnia, not in kosovo not hatin the rest of the world and surely not by burning world embassies. Its sad to see that they still try to use violence to get their agenda, at least it has improved now, now they brun embassies vs having state troops rape innocent girls and kill babies of non serbs. i really wish one day serbs wake up and snap out of their brainwashed mode.

  • Posted By: mrsavizdrav @ 02/21/2008 4:04:04 PM

    Albanians in Kosovo became the majority because most of the families (usualy uneducated and poor) have "as many children as Alah intended". They had all the rights in former Yugoslavia as any other minority, or even more. The University of Pristina had classes in Albanian!!! What state University in the USA has clases in Spanish?

    • Posted By: doesntmatter @ 02/21/2008 4:24:30 PM

      Actually, to inform you they do, In Miami FL, Bachelors can be done in Spanish
      English is useless in South Florida, no spanish no dinero,
      Kosovo is coming to America. YEEEE boy

      • Posted By: mrsavizdrav @ 02/21/2008 4:39:24 PM

        I'm not a Serb, but I was bor and raised in Serbia (Yugoslavia) and I remember a lot about Kosovo.

  • Posted By: TonyM @ 02/21/2008 4:39:14 PM

    ITdoesmatter:
    You are high into something that we can not explain. I know you do not like anything American but below is the lattest update from the NYT. They still have hope on people like you. WOW, ALL of us here in NY are criminals. Get a life.
    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/22/world/europe/22kosovo.html?8au&emc=au

  • Posted By: try2Bkind2everyone @ 02/21/2008 4:38:55 PM

    Homo Sapiens (today's humans) have been here for approximately 250,000 years. That would be about- 91,250,000 days or 2,190,000,000 hours. Forget about that for now and lets just look at the last 8 years from 1999 till today.
    In 1999 the wolds population of humans was around 6 billion and in 2007 it was about 6.5 billion. To be conservative I'll just use the 1999 figure of 6 billion for each of the past 8 years up to now. Every day, each one of our humans has some kind of brain activity going on. Lets say that each human has 12 hours of conscious brain activity a day. We won't count all the foggy people on earth, so that's a generous 4 hours of non conscious brain activity added to the sleep time of the unfoggy people to average out the conscious brain activity of each person for each hour of each day. Now we have 6 billion X 12 hours of conscious brain activity each day which is 72,000,000,000 hours of thought per day that would be 26,280,000,000,000 hours of conscious thought each year of the last 8 years which is 210,240,000,000,000 hours of conscious brain activity that has occured over the past 8 years. 210 TRILLION + 240 BILLION HOURS OF CONSCIOUS BRAIN ACTIVITY OVER ONLY THE LAST 8 YEARS. AND WE KEEP MAKING THE SAME MISTAKES OVER AND OVER AND WE JUST CAN'T LEARN HOW TO LIVE TOGETHER NOT AS SERBS OR ALBANIANS OR ARABS OR EUROPEANS OR AMERICANS but as HUMANS WHO DON'T HURT EACH OTHER OR KILL EACH OTHER. SOMEONE ONCE SAID LOVE THY NEIGHBOR AS THY SELF BUT HE WAS WRONG HE SHOULD HAVE SAID DON'T KILL YOUR NEIGHBOR JUST AS MUCH AS YOU DON'T WANT TO BE KILLED. We can start there.

  • Posted By: doesntmatter @ 02/21/2008 4:16:11 PM

    Tony M
    This supports my statement that Albanians are criminals, and Tony M since you live in NY, that includes you.
    http://www.newsmax.com/alden/kosovo/2008/02/21/74508.html

  • Posted By: someonesmart @ 02/21/2008 3:38:27 PM

    why do people, who don't have a clue what's been happening in Kosovo, keep sticking their noses in other people's business? for those UNINFORMED there are no Serbs in Kosovo because the Albanians forced them to either sell their properties, or (those who wouldn't sell)to leave(I leave it to your imagination to think of the ways) back in 1975. Both sides are to blame. But,hey, who was terorising whom? Why don't you get to the origin of it all and ask yourselves where have the serbs who used to live in Kosovo disappeared and why.

    • Posted By: mrsavizdrav @ 02/21/2008 4:08:31 PM

      Albanians in Kosovo are the majority because their families (usually uneducated and poor) have "as many children as Alah intended".

  • Posted By: alba.destiny @ 02/21/2008 4:06:09 PM

    All I have to say please read >>THE ALBANIANS - An Ethnic History from Prehistoric Times to the Present<< by EDWIN E. JACQUES. Who ever read this book, today is accepting Kosovas independence (Bill Clinton, Havier Solana and many others read the book for sure). EDWIN E. JACQUES isn???t Albanian or Serbian historian so there is much more truth in his book then in other books written by Albanian, Serbian or Russian historian.

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