If we treated China the way we treat Cuba, the US wouldn't have the financing that China has giving us to keep the National Treasury out of bankruptcy.
Mickey Grant
Dallas
A missed opportunity to kill the Cuban regime with kindness
If we treated China the way we treat Cuba, the US wouldn't have the financing that China has giving us to keep the National Treasury out of bankruptcy.
Mickey Grant
Dallas
NO,YOU ARE WRONG!***!
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I keep reading about how the U.S is overlooking how We the U.S are using chinese labor as a source of our economics...And Bush is at fault for it...Ummm I dont really remember NAFTA being signed in the Bush admin...That was Clintons Admins. great idea to send jobs overseas....So that would indicate to a rational person that CLINTON was at the root of allowing jobs to go to the hard working chinese, and mexican laborers. I definately dont remember Clinton wanting to do anything positive with the Cubas dictator while in office. So theres no need to praise Clinton for his bright ideas while his pants was around his ankles in the ORAL office...I mean while he was Impeached....I mean while he was President.
NAFTA = North American Free Trade Agreement. Nothing to do with China's Most Favored Nation trade status . Both bad ideas, one implemented by Clinton, the other by Bush.
CNN, Wednesday, June 3, 1998:
House Speaker Newt Gingrich welcomed Clinton's recommendation for renewing MFN status for China, and vowed to work in a bipartisan manner to ensure that China receives it from Congress.
Gingrich, joined by Reps. Bill Archer (R-Texas) and Philip Crane (R-Ill.), made his comments in a letter to Clinton.
The lawmakers told Clinton, "We welcome the determination you made today to recommend the renewal of MFN trade status for China, and we pledge to work with you in a bipartisan manner to preserve our longstanding policy of commercial and diplomatic engagement with the Chinese. Seeking to keep China open to the West has proven to be the most effective way to advance our democratic values in this turbulent region of the world -- a policy we are committed to maintaining."
Great now put up excerpts from Hillary praising it then how she is knocking it now. If I remember right Clinton was president and nothing REALLY was getting done by his party so the Repubs had to agree to something to look like they were getting along before election campaigns started...Polititians are like that.
Out of the three presidential nominee contenders, Clinton, Obama and McCain, whose campaign language suggests a willingness to embrace Cuba and begin a dialog?
Answer: Barrack Obama.
Cupidity? Mere personality? Emptiness on policy? People believe the politiicians and pundits attacks without truly investigating the candidates. There's more merit there in that suit than the status quo wants you to believe. Objective analysis will tell you otherwise.
Though I am not an expert in these matters, I can see where this argument is justified. All embargos and other forms of punnishment like invasions do is punnish an innocent populous. The only way for a government to truely change is to change from within. This is part of the problem in Iraq. If the people don't want to change, nothing we do from the outside is going to help. Instead of penalizing people who can't move out of the country, we should be helping them to see that now is a good time to start changing it.
Sailing to Cuba sounds wonderful. I'm making arangements with USCubanTravel.com I want to enjoy the nightlife and walk on the sandy beaches, and my husband want to smoke hand rolled cigar.
Wouldn't it be ironic that the US lifts the embargo and the Cuba rejects it?....After all, the US is the enemy...and according to Cuban politics, the US should not be dealt with.....After all these years, who would thay have to blame for their deplorable conditions then?
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Cuba looks to be a great place to visit when I start sailing in the years to come....Hopefully Dictator #2 will have the sense enough to see the economic advantages they have in the tourism industry and make good with the U.S. and other rational nations. Its a shame that beautiful island is going to waste because of ignorant politians on both sides.
Enter Your Comment ENOUGH IS ENOUGH 50+YEARS THE CUBAN PEOPLE HAVE THE RIGHT TO ENJOY LIVING THE UNITED STATES MUST ALLOW CUBA TO BE. IT'S TIME TO LIFT THE EMBARGOS---- TIME TO CHANGE. WE CAN NOT RULE THE ENTIRE UNIVERSE. LESS IS MORE.................................
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to b56 sigma -- while it is true that Fidel sustained his power in Cuba (largely thru our boycott & USSR - remember them?-- support, it is not true that he "unilaterally created" the mess in Cuba. Those of us who are old enough remember that the USA helped Fidel Castro overthrow what we thought at the time was a worse dictator.
The Cuban people will need to create their own destiny as do the rest of us -- it is time for the USA to stop trying to control the uncontrolable, lift the embargos and see what happens.
I disagree that he is not responsible for the situation in Cuba, especially the abject poverty in some cases and the horrific abuse of his own citizens and the bad utilization of his military. I do agree that lifting the embargo will produce very measurable results now that he might not be in a position to benefit from it. It's time to bring the island into the mainstream. I think the travel of Americans to Cuba, particularly the exiles, could have an exponential positive effect over time.
I am not absolving him from responsibility -- nor would I absolve the Cuban people themselves (there must be some level of acceptance of dictatorship for a country to be as vulnerable as Cuba is), I am simply pointing out that our interference in both directions - helping him in & boycotting him to get him out - have had less than positive results and it is time we bowed out and let Cuba be Cuban.
The arrogance of the American mind set just kills me!!! your going to lead Cuba to democracy "with the warm embrace of America?????" how dare you! while America has been busy pissing off every nation on earth Canada has friendly trade relations with China ,Russia, the middle east and Cuba in fact i challange you to name one enemy of Canada...whats that? resounding silence? ya... America needs to pull there head out of there collective ***ses! you really think your going to assimilate Cuba and the word will stand by? why dont you ask Hawaii how they feel about it? get real! You treated Castro like crap for 49 years! America has a bad case of the emperors new clothes ....arrogance is the worst human trait
Canada never stands up for anything that would put themselves or economy in danger. They have ALWAYS stood on the sidelines and waited for the positive outcome of the winning side to step in and help. Canada has always been a coattail riding nation. Acting self righteous isnt impressive or anything to brag about. Im proud in the fact the U.S. has stood for whats right and dealt with what needed to be done and not waited as Canada has ALWAYS done through out history.
And what has Canada achieved by being friendly with Cuba? Give an oppresive dictator the financial means to continue oppressing his people.
You talk about America having a case of "Emperor's New Clothes", but having lived for years in both Canada and the US, I'd say it is Canada who suffers from this condition by believing that it is really a world power and that its decisions are important.
Yes, Canada is the 7th largest economy in the world, but that is only because of its proximity to the US and its huge commodities reserves.
Yes, Canada does not have any "enemies" except when Brazilians was burning Canadian flags in the street because of the beef embargo.
But Canada was just as violent towards the natives as the US was; and all the black slaves who fled to Canada during the underground railroad encountered the same type of discrimination and violence they encountered in the American South.
The problem is that for 200 years, Canada has based its identity in NOT being America and has consciously done thing differently in order to justify its existence; while at the same time achieving a high standard of living on the back of the American economy and under American military protection.
So, please spare us the self-rightiousness
It is absolutely true that his revolution overthrew a regime that was power hungry and vastly corrupt and it is also true that the USA helped (and we did help) Fidel overthrow that regime, it is also true to say that Fidel then chose to appropriate some of the worst excesses of power of the old regime to himself. The dream was good -- great even, the execution was not.
the embargo hasn't worked for over 40 years, time for plan B. Open trade and relations and it's just a matter of time before democracy and capitalism take over.
If you knew anything at all about the hisory of Cuba, you would know that it was trade and capitalism that created the atrocities of the Batista regime. This led to Castro's revolution. I don't claim that Fidel is any kind of saint, bit it is sad, sad, SAD how ignorant people are about Cuba. It is true that he was corrupted by power, but he did do a lot of good especially for the poor and working class of this beautiful island nation.
History will label this bastard as a jungle hoodlem, not a president of benevolant dictator, stealing the physical and intellectual cuban resources to support a few other piss poor cubans, canadians and russians. Just leave your home with just the shirt on you back.
Shoot first and as questions later? Pinkpanther, read up on some history of Cuba before you open your mouth. Raul has been known to be even more tryannical and bloodier than Fidel. When the political executions were held after Castro's taking of power, Raul Castro presided over those. He had many killed for the sole purpose of attaining and maintaining power for him and his brother Fidel. It is said that Raul was so heinous that Fidel even challenged him asking how much longer he planned to continue executing political opponents. Read about Camilo Cienfuegos who mysteriously disappeared in a
supposed small aircraft accident. Word is his aircraft was sabotaged due to his vocal dissention regarding the Castro Brother's political views, never to be seen or heard of again. Others who stood side to side with them also ended up in jail for opposition. Some were able to exile to the US and have told their stories. They (Raul and Fidel) have been terrorists of their own country. Making underground jail cells in the streets that can hold several hundreds in each if a revolt were ever to happen where they would be celled and forgotten of. They have been terrorizing that island and its inhabitants for almost 50 years. Trust me, if ever anything were to disrupt the present regine, they will shoot first....no questions required.
I was not refering to any Cuban with the term "shoot first" that is a place reserved for Bush! Cuba or a free Cubans worst nightmare. i wish the Cuban population good luck for the furture and get jumped. i do not wish to see Cuba return to is prior place in freedom, it must be free now, so why the jumping? if i know anything i do know Castro and family are true tyrants and am glad to see them retire, and hope the people can live the lives they wish to lead. All i'm concerned about is Gitmo, an American base where we sent thousands of the worst of the worst, 90 from our coast, this is a Bush move, send them back, close Gitmo and allow the Cuban people to raise a socity THEY want! After the elections [ours] they will have a more sensable person in the WH to deal with, was the point! i do not believe Bush would help the Cuban cause a bit, and would turn it upside down, and this is not the kind of help they need, or will ask for. I wish the best to the Cuban people now Castro is old and retired! I do not wish to get jumped for it either as you are yelling at me for saying what you stated?
I've always dreamed of watching the girls roll cigars on there laps and travelling and exploring cuba. With Castro resigning I think my dream will come true. I've booked with USCubanTravel.com
They have great programs for Non US citizens too!
Castro unilaterally created and sustained the mess in Cuba with no help from the U.S. I vividly remember the Cubans coming to the U.S. to escape his aggressive social policies that "redistributed" all of the island's wealth to him and his cronies. There was also the "Peter Pan" episode where desperate parents sent their young children to the states to live in orphanages until they could escape to be with them. And let's not forget the tens of thousands of troops he sent to Angola to provide support to the MPLA for the slaughter in West Africa and the his ready contribution to the destabilization of Central America, notably Nicaragua and El Salvador. The Russians paid him millions of dollars a day to keep his failed economy upright and now that they're gone - he has finally succumbed to alowing tourism, but the money never makes it to the poorest segments of the population. A Colombian doctor who attended a conference in Cuba said that married women were engaging in prostitution to support the families - sometimes with the husband's knowledge. And the writer of the above article reflects the contemporary point of view that somehow all the problems in Cuba is the fault of the American people. He has also failed to mention the horrible human rights record that the Cuban Regime has maintained for the past 50 years. Based on his record, and the fact that he has used the U.S. as the evil image to rally his supporters, it is an absolute stretch to leap to the conclusion that lifting the embargo will provide any significant channels of assistance to the Cubans who really need it. We can only hope that Castro lapses into a physical or mental state where he won't have any significant control and that a new government relaxes controls, encourages international investment and trade from the U.S., and throttles back on the state security apparatus. I am sure that there are legions of exiles in Miami who could provide substantive assistance, proposals and drafts for workable Constitution, and wise counsel to a cooperative new government when the dictatorship finally crashes into the dust.
Dickhead, if you are so damned erudite, why are you not ruling the universe?
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