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  • Posted By: marketingtruth @ 02/20/2008 10:10:18 PM

    Comment: Comment: Judge Him by His Laws
    COMMENT
    washingtonpost.com
    By Charles Peters
    People who complain that Barack Obama lacks experience must be unaware of his legislative achievements. One reason these accomplishments are unfamiliar is that the media have not devoted enough attention to Obama's bills and the effort required to pass them, ignoring impressive, hard evidence of his character and ability.
    Since most of Obama's legislation was enacted in Illinois, most of the evidence is found there -- and it has been largely ignored by the media in a kind of Washington snobbery that assumes state legislatures are not to be taken seriously. (Another factor is reporters' fascination with the horse race at the expense of substance that they assume is boring, a fascination that despite being ridiculed for years continues to dominate political journalism.)

  • Posted By: Zombiehero @ 02/20/2008 10:06:17 PM

    Exactly what I've been trying to say for the past 4 weeks. Its the same ole crap in a new package

  • Posted By: jtsauburn @ 02/20/2008 9:55:43 PM

    mksl1 , I got a book; two actually. I suggest you read "Dreams of My Father" and "The Audacity of Hope", both by Baraak Obama. Then you might want to read the inscription on the Statue of Liberty. You might then realize that the people you refer to as having an eenie-meenie-minie-mo vote are the heart and soul of our country. They are the men and women you probably are eager to support. They are the miners trapped underground, the factory workers who make the car you drive. They built the house you live in; the same people who protect it from criminals and who will come running if it catches on fire.

    Our country wouldn't exist if Columbus didn't hope he would find land and not drop off the ocean as must people thought. You wouldn't have the freedom to voice youe opinion if common folk didn't step forward to answer Geoge Washington's call. Where whould we be if Abraham Lincoln didn't settle for a country divided? Or if Rosa Parks decided to move on the bus? Would our country be where it's at if Dr. King didn't have a dream? Or if President Kennedy gidn't have a goal to reach the moon?

    I happen to have a degree in Political Science and a MS in Human Resource Management. I have done the research. One thing I know is how important and special every single eenie-meenie-minie-mo vote is. I am voting for hope. I am voting for change. I will not accept status quo.

    Our country needs a president who will inspire us to do more. We need a president who can unite us, not divide us. We need a president who will restore our faith in government.

    That's why I am voting for Baraak Obama

  • Posted By: marcharmon2 @ 02/20/2008 9:55:17 PM

    Samuelson lost all credibility with me when he argued forcefully and in great detail how we could "afford" the Iraq War. Obama deserves to be held to a higher standard than the other candidates because he aspires to inspire our country to do better? Great, I guess we're in trouble until Jesus Christ or the Buddha runs for office.

  • Posted By: jtsauburn @ 02/20/2008 9:54:15 PM

    mksl1 , I got a book; two actually. I suggest you read "Dreams of My Father" and "The Audacity of Hope", both by Baraak Obama. Then you might want to read the inscription on the Statue of Liberty. You might then realize that the people you refer to as having an eenie-meenie-minie-mo vote are the heart and soul of our country. They are the men and women you probably are eager to support. They are the miners trapped underground, the factory workers who make the car you drive. They built the house you live in; the same people who protect it from criminals and who will come running if it catches on fire.

    Our country wouldn't exist if Columbus didn't hope he would find land and not drop off the ocean as must people thought. You wouldn't have the freedom to voice youe opinion if common folk didn't step forward to answer Geoge Washington's call. Where whould we be if Abraham Lincoln didn't settle for a country divided? Or if Rosa Parks decided to move on the bus? Would our country be where it's at if Dr. King didn't have a dream? Or if President Kennedy gidn't have a goal to reach the moon?

    I happen to have a degree in Political Science and a MS in Human Resource Management. I have done the research. One thing I know is how important and special every single eenie-meenie-minie-mo vote is. I am voting for hope. I am voting for change. I will not accept status quo.

    Our country needs a president who will inspire us to do more. We need a president who can unite us, not divide us. We need a president who will restore our faith in government.

    That's why I am voting for Baraak Obama

  • Posted By: marcharmon2 @ 02/20/2008 9:54:09 PM

    Samuelson lost all credibility with me when he argued forcefully and in great detail how we could "afford" the Iraq War. Obama deserves to be held to a higher standard than the other candidates because he aspires to inspire our country to do better? Great, I guess we're in trouble until Jesus Christ or the Buddha runs for office.

  • Posted By: marketingtruth @ 02/20/2008 9:53:44 PM

    He [Obama] responded with an all-out campaign of cajolery. It had not been easy for a Harvard man to become a regular guy to his colleagues. Obama had managed to do so by playing basketball and poker with them and, most of all, by listening to their concerns. Even Republicans came to respect him. One Republican state senator, Kirk Dillard, has said that "Barack had a way both intellectually and in demeanor that defused skeptics."

    The police proved to be Obama's toughest opponent. Legislators tend to quail when cops say things like, "This means we won't be able to protect your children." The police tried to limit the videotaping to confessions, but Obama, knowing that the beatings were most likely to occur during questioning, fought -- successfully -- to keep interrogations included in the required videotaping.

    By showing officers that he shared many of their concerns, even going so far as to help pass other legislation they wanted, he was able to quiet the fears of many.

    Obama proved persuasive enough that the bill passed both houses of the legislature, the Senate by an incredible 35 to 0. Then he talked Blagojevich into signing the bill, making Illinois the first state to require such videotaping.

    Obama didn't stop there. He played a major role in passing many other bills, including the state's first earned-income tax credit to help the working poor and the first ethics and campaign finance law in 25 years (a law a Post story said made Illinois "one of the best in the nation on campaign finance disclosure"). Obama's commitment to ethics continued in the U.S. Senate, where he co-authored the new lobbying reform law that, among its hard-to-sell provisions, requires lawmakers to disclose the names of lobbyists who "bundle" contributions for them.

    Taken together, these accomplishments demonstrate that Obama has what Dillard, the Republican state senator, calls a "unique" ability "to deal with extremely complex issues, to reach across the aisle and to deal with diverse people." In other words, Obama's campaign claim that he can persuade us to rise above what divides us is not just rhetoric.

    I do not think that a candidate's legislative record is the only measure of presidential potential, simply that Obama's is revealing enough to merit far more attention than it has received. Indeed, the media have been equally delinquent in reporting the legislative achievements of Hillary Clinton and John Edwards, both of whom spent years in the U.S. Senate. The media should compare their legislative records to Obama's, devoting special attention to their heart-and-soul bills and how effective each was in actually making law.

  • Posted By: libby the kid @ 02/20/2008 9:47:37 PM

    In Illinios, Barack was stronly supportive of a bill that would allow people who break into homes to sue homeowners if they were hurt as a result of criminal activity. That is where his passion was

    • Posted By: marketingtruth @ 02/20/2008 9:50:18 PM

      Distorted information.

  • Posted By: marketingtruth @ 02/20/2008 9:47:20 PM

    By Charles Peter-Washington Post
    He responded with an all-out campaign of cajolery. It had not been easy for a Harvard man to become a regular guy to his colleagues. Obama had managed to do so by playing basketball and poker with them and, most of all, by listening to their concerns. Even Republicans came to respect him. One Republican state senator, Kirk Dillard, has said that "Barack had a way both intellectually and in demeanor that defused skeptics."

    The police proved to be Obama's toughest opponent. Legislators tend to quail when cops say things like, "This means we won't be able to protect your children." The police tried to limit the videotaping to confessions, but Obama, knowing that the beatings were most likely to occur during questioning, fought -- successfully -- to keep interrogations included in the required videotaping.

    By showing officers that he shared many of their concerns, even going so far as to help pass other legislation they wanted, he was able to quiet the fears of many.

    Obama proved persuasive enough that the bill passed both houses of the legislature, the Senate by an incredible 35 to 0. Then he talked Blagojevich into signing the bill, making Illinois the first state to require such videotaping.

    Obama didn't stop there. He played a major role in passing many other bills, including the state's first earned-income tax credit to help the working poor and the first ethics and campaign finance law in 25 years (a law a Post story said made Illinois "one of the best in the nation on campaign finance disclosure"). Obama's commitment to ethics continued in the U.S. Senate, where he co-authored the new lobbying reform law that, among its hard-to-sell provisions, requires lawmakers to disclose the names of lobbyists who "bundle" contributions for them.

    Taken together, these accomplishments demonstrate that Obama has what Dillard, the Republican state senator, calls a "unique" ability "to deal with extremely complex issues, to reach across the aisle and to deal with diverse people." In other words, Obama's campaign claim that he can persuade us to rise above what divides us is not just rhetoric.

    I do not think that a candidate's legislative record is the only measure of presidential potential, simply that Obama's is revealing enough to merit far more attention than it has received...[t]he media should compare their legislative records to Obama's, devoting special attention to their heart-and-soul bills and how effective each was in actually making law.

  • Posted By: ronandraul @ 02/20/2008 9:46:28 PM

    I would like to point out that if obama is capable of running the country at all close to the successful way he has run one of the strongest campaigns in the history of the united states, than we are in for change. We may see more politics as usual ( after all this is a presidential race, everyone is promising things that won't actually happen) but imagine having a president with a high approval rating. We could actually make some changes, even if they were small. If you motivate the masses, if capital hill is afraid to be on the wrong side of you, things will begin to move in your direction. It may not be perfect, but sooner or later someone had to show America's population its need to get involved.
    obama greatest quality is his ability to stir up the vote, but he can't take full credit for this, president bush has also stirred up the vote.

  • Posted By: John Jeff Real @ 02/20/2008 9:42:20 PM

    The media has been very pro-Obama.

  • Posted By: marketingtruth @ 02/20/2008 9:40:27 PM

    Washington Post-By Charles Peter continued...

    I am a rarity among Washington journalists in that I have served in a state legislature. I know from my time in the West Virginia legislature that the challenges faced by reform-minded state representatives are no less, if indeed not more, formidable than those encountered in Congress. For me, at least, trying to deal with those challenges involved as much drama as any election. And the "heart and soul" bill, the one for which a legislator gives everything he or she has to get passed, has long told me more than anything else about a person's character and ability.

    Consider a bill into which Obama clearly put his heart and soul. The problem he wanted to address was that too many confessions, rather than being voluntary, were coerced -- by beating the daylights out of the accused.

    Obama proposed requiring that interrogations and confessions be videotaped.

    This seemed likely to stop the beatings, but the bill itself aroused immediate opposition. There were Republicans who were automatically tough on crime and Democrats who feared being thought soft on crime. There were death penalty abolitionists, some of whom worried that Obama's bill, by preventing the execution of innocents, would deprive them of their best argument. Vigorous opposition came from the police, too many of whom had become accustomed to using muscle to "solve" crimes. And the incoming governor, Rod Blagojevich, announced that he was against it.

    Obama had his work cut out for him.

  • Posted By: Jrmapu @ 02/20/2008 9:38:34 PM

    I read an article about the Hawaii caucus, and if this is true, my hats off to the Obama people for doing thier job. Whose idea was it to post people outside the polls and making sure thier candidate is elected? That is ingenious. Just one silly question, is that like cheating? From what I understand, there was no Clinton people around. My thinking is special interest are not supposed to be within 100 feet of polling places. So how did the officials let this happen and how many other polling places has this occured? I do agree if Obama gets the nomination, Hillary will be the one to bail him out because she is the one with the experience and the solutions.

  • Posted By: marketingtruth @ 02/20/2008 9:36:21 PM

    Judge Him by His Laws
    COMMENT
    washingtonpost.com
    By Charles Peters
    People who complain that Barack Obama lacks experience must be unaware of his legislative achievements. One reason these accomplishments are unfamiliar is that the media have not devoted enough attention to Obama's bills and the effort required to pass them, ignoring impressive, hard evidence of his character and ability.
    Since most of Obama's legislation was enacted in Illinois, most of the evidence is found there -- and it has been largely ignored by the media in a kind of Washington snobbery that assumes state legislatures are not to be taken seriously. (Another factor is reporters' fascination with the horse race at the expense of substance that they assume is boring, a fascination that despite being ridiculed for years continues to dominate political journalism.)

  • Posted By: Hillary'sSupporter @ 02/20/2008 9:35:19 PM

    Finally, somebody told the truth. Thank you, Mr. Samuelson.

  • Posted By: mksl1 @ 02/20/2008 8:53:50 PM

    OBAMA IS LOVE! HE'S "UNITY"!
    He don't need no stinkin' plans man!
    He just need to get in there and fly by the seat of his pants!
    Just like that good old preacher prez Jmmy Carter.

  • Posted By: libby the kid @ 02/20/2008 9:26:21 PM

    Hillary Clinton saved our country from disastor by standing by Bill and the right wing fanatics who would impeach him, God Bless her!

  • Posted By: marketingtruth @ 02/20/2008 9:24:03 PM

    Comment: Hillary also recommended a close friend of the Clintons, Craig Livingstone, for the position of director of White House security. When Livingstone was investigated for the improper access of up to 900 FBI files of Clinton enemies (?Filegate?) and the widespread use of drugs by White House staff, both Hillary and her husband denied knowing him. FBI agent Dennis Sculimbrene confirmed in a Senate Judiciary Committee hearing in 1996, both the drug use and Hillary's involvement in hiring Livingstone. After that, the FBI closed its White House Liaison Office, after serving seven presidents for over thirty years. - In order to open ?slots? in the White House for her friends the Thomasons (to whom millions of dollars in travel contracts could be awarded), Hillary had the entire staff of the White House Travel Office fired; they were reported to the FBI for 'gross mismanagement' and their reputations ruined. After a thirty-month investigation, only one, Billy Dale, was charged with a crime - mixing personal money with White House funds when he cashed checks. The jury acquitted him in less than two hours. - Another of Hil lary's assumed duties was directing the 'bimbo eruption squad' and scandal defense: ---- She urged her husband not to settle the Paula Jones lawsuit. ---- She refused to release the Whitewater documents, which led to the appointment of Ken Starr as Special Prosecutor. After $80 million dollars of taxpayer money was spent, Starr's investigation led to Monica Lewinsky, which led to Bill lying about and later admitting his affairs. ---- Then they had to settle with Paula Jones after all. ---- And Bill lost his law license for lying to the grand jury ---- And Bill was impeached by the House. ---- And Hillary almost got herself indicted for perjury and obstruction of justice (she avoided it mostly because she repeated, 'I do not recall,' 'I have no recollection,' and 'I don't know' 56 times under oath). -

  • Posted By: Dr.Lamot @ 02/20/2008 9:19:59 PM

    Comment: Hillary wrote 'It Takes a Village,' demonstrating her Socialist viewpoint. - Hill ary decided to seek election to the Senate in a state she had never lived in. Her husband pardoned FALN terrorists in order to get Latino support and the New Square Hassidim to get Jewish support. Hillary also had Bill pardon her brother's clients, for a small fee, to get financial support. - Then Hillary left the White House, but later had to return $200,000 in White House furniture, china, and artwork she had stolen. - In the campaign for the Senate, Hillary played the 'woman card' by portraying her opponent (Lazio) as a bully picking on her. - Hillary's husband further protected her by asking the National Archives to withhold from the public until 2012 many records of their time in the White House, including much of Hillary's correspondence and her calendars. (There are ongoing lawsuits to force the release of those records.) - As the junior Senator from New York, Hillary has passed no major legislation. She has deferred to the senior Senator (Schumer) to tend to the needs of New Yorkers, even on the hot issue of medical problems of workers involved in the cleanup of Ground Zero after 9/11. - Hillary's one notable vote; supporting the plan to invade Iraq, she has since disavowed. Quite a resume?. Sounds more like an organized crime family?s rap sheet. please read the following information gathered from the Library of Congress.

  • Posted By: John Jeff Real @ 02/20/2008 9:18:21 PM

    The media has not been critical enough of Obama. MSNBC in particular is so pro-Obama that it has lost credibility as a "news" network.

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