The Obama Delusion

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  • Posted By: E-MaRCE @ 02/20/2008 4:11:07 PM

    I agree with R. Samuelson - 100%. Barack's rhetoric is a just a lot of b.s. His speeches are all the same - grand promises without any leg to stand on. He has the charisma, not of a seasoned politician, but of a con artist...and a lot of voters have fallen under his spell.

    • Posted By: Obamaisagoodtalker @ 02/20/2008 7:42:05 PM

      Con artist?

  • Posted By: hillaryforpresident!!! @ 02/20/2008 4:19:38 PM

    "The rest are legislators; he's a leader."

    Don't you mean Obama is the legislator and Hillary is the leader?
    I'm failing to see how clever speeches qualifies him as a competant leader???

    BTW, thank you so much Mr. Samuelson for actually looking at Obama objectively. This is something that a lot of people are bringing up and you are the first journalist so far that I have read who is now bringing it to the public's attention.

    • Posted By: Obamaisagoodtalker @ 02/20/2008 7:41:01 PM

      Good post!

  • Posted By: superstudtoo @ 02/20/2008 7:39:44 PM

    can someone tell me what Hillary has accomplished? Being the wif of a president does not qualify one to be president.
    the reason Barack is winniing and will win the presedency is that America want someone who understand that this a country of the people, of the people, and by the people, Not political brassheads.

  • Posted By: mksl1 @ 02/20/2008 6:59:50 PM

    BTW- Haven't any of you noticed that Obama has quietly dropped his pledge to withdraw from Iraq? He now says he'll withdraw under certain "conditions".Sp he's already hedging.
    He'll keep say very loudly that he was against the war and that McCain will keep us there "for a hundred years".But in between those two points leaves a LOT of room to shift his position.
    And that's what he's already starting to do.

    • Posted By: OH-IO for Obama @ 02/20/2008 7:39:03 PM

      I believe as recently as last night in his acceptance speech after the Wisconsin polls closed, he said something to the effect of: McCain wants 100 years more war, I was opposed to the war in 2002, I will end the war in 2009...go check out his speech, c-span.org

  • Posted By: kamakiriad @ 02/20/2008 7:38:53 PM

    McCain and Hillary offer known partican qualities, with no hope at all of instituting a single real change in how Washington does business. Obama's policies are no different than many other Liberals (on that you are correct), but actually executing those policies via non-partisan collaboration, and the exclusion of lobbists, is the "change" he speaks of. One can not work with others if one demonizes them. I can't believe someone who makes a living writing about these issues so widely missed the entire point of the Obama campaign. Change is about changing how business is done, not about having a wholly new idea on how to solve every policy problem. If that is your standard for change Mr. Samuelson, I fear no human would ever reach it.

  • Posted By: coolrepublica @ 02/20/2008 7:36:28 PM

    I am tired of people saying that Obama would be a great leader because he inspired them. Hitler also inspired. He made speeches that shook the nation. He made the Germans feel good about themselves. He gave their hope . He made them feel that they could change history. And they voted for him. yest voted for him and gave him power. And we know what he did with that power. A great speaker does not make a great leader. If great speaker were all great leaders Lenin would have benn greatest of them all.

  • Posted By: akatz @ 02/20/2008 7:33:15 PM

    As often happens, you've missed the point.

    The reason is that the American electorate doesn't want to vote for public policies any more. They have learned, to their utmost despair, that campaign promises are all garbage - and tell you nothing about how that person is going to govern. Try "Compassionate Conservatism" on for size. Try "No Nation Building" on for size.

    What Americans are interested in electing, now, is the person - the person who has the hopes and aspirations that they hold for America. Not the one with the best talking points.

    They want someone who recognizes the long-term clinical depression we have suffered as we watched our nation kill off its young soldiers, torture prisoners, make enemies of most of the rest of the world (remember American Fries?), subvert the Constitution while more than a thousand (mostly African-American) drowned or died of dehydration or lack of medical care in New Orleans. Someone who can offer hope for a better America, respected throughout the world for our compassion, even-handedness, non-ideological approaches to HIV/AIDS and other world catastrophes. A country that works for all the people, not just the fringe wedge-groups that have driven re-election campaigns for years, if not decades.

    So I don't give a damn about Barack's "concrete" proposals, and few other voters do. What we care about is a man who embodies our hopes, a man of reasonable integrity, a man who is not owned by corporations, religions or lobbyists.

    If you don't get this, well you don't get this. You're a wonk. Most of us are not. Most of us (as the victories attest) are buying into his message of hope.

    Perhaps, when all is said and done, you're just too cynical to buy into it yourself.

    Sure, the other two are known quantities. And because they are, I know for sure I won't vote for either one. I'd rather vote for a cipher than vote for a known, experienced quantity who supported the war in Iraq and determine their ideologies by the day's polls (even McCain, with his recent vote FOR torture).

    Sorry you can't get it, Samuelson. Your loss.

    Alan Arthur Katz

  • Posted By: texasindependent @ 02/20/2008 7:33:07 PM

    This article is not supported with facts. In fact, there are zero facts in the article. I think that speaks for itself. I think if you people reading will do a little research, you'll find Hilary's senate record has no more substance than Obama's. I think the other factor he ignores is that a lot of people, myself included, feel our government has performed very poorly and ignored many serious issues for many years and don't give credit to people like Shrilary and John McCain for having had the experience of screwing us over for so long.

    I don't really understand why she's used the so-called experience angle so much. To a lot of people it's a negative rather than a positive.

    I'll just say also that I'm an independent in Texas and will vote for Obama but would have regardless of the Republican situation. I have no interest in the candidates they trotted out this year or the same tired old platform they're pushing and I really think people take it far too easily on both parties by continuing the partisan bashing.

    It's absurd and has never served us well.

  • Posted By: mksl1 @ 02/20/2008 7:32:56 PM

    Obama is a fad.
    Once folks start hearing the specifics of his walter mondale ideas the bloom will be off the rose.

  • Posted By: Alma @ 02/20/2008 7:22:19 PM

    Thanks for your opinion, which i believe is rather misleading. People love Obama because he makes people feel powerful, potent, willingness to try to fix the mess we have lived in for the past 8 years. He gives something much more palpable than words...hope that is action towards good. Even if your work were objective, it is untrue.

    • Posted By: coolrepublica @ 02/20/2008 7:32:40 PM

      I am sick of people saying that they love Obama because he make them feel powerful, potent and hopeful. I have news for you all idiots. Hilter ran on the same platform. He too gave the German people hope. He too told them that they could fix Germany. He too told them that their dreams and hope would come true with his election. He said everything Obama is saying and better. The German people voted for him with the same love we are voting for Obama. they felt he was the anser and would bring change and end their countries depression. He did and then some. So stop your " He is the bringer of change talk. It makes me sick. Sick.

  • Posted By: JodieForClinton @ 02/20/2008 5:38:51 PM

    About time the news media woke up! What took you so long? Now the whole country is behind Obama becuase the media has made him the "good" guy from the start. For all of you Obama supporters: we already have a man in the office who thinks he's "right" and came in with little experience and oh, yeah, he changed the world, but not for the better! Obama is a very dangerous man!

    • Posted By: ObamaBacker @ 02/20/2008 6:12:38 PM

      You girl is going to loose!!! Deal with it

      • Posted By: Obamaisagoodtalker @ 02/20/2008 7:32:21 PM

        This isn't a popularity contest here. America needs a leader, not a motivational speaker.

  • Posted By: mksl1 @ 02/20/2008 7:30:04 PM

    "People love Obama because he makes them feel powerful,potent..."
    Don't worry.
    As soon as he's elected president that effect will wear off.

  • Posted By: mksl1 @ 02/20/2008 7:28:19 PM

    OK
    So even Obama supporters admit he hasn't done a single thing of note in the senate.But as president all of a sudden he'll be a man of action!
    Except none of the Obama supporters are defending his /mondale/gore,warmed over policy ideas.
    You guys love him for one reason.
    He looks nice on tv.
    How substantive.

  • Posted By: Alma @ 02/20/2008 7:26:53 PM

    Thanks for your opinion, which i believe is rather misleading. People love Obama because he makes people feel powerful, potent, willingness to try to fix the mess we have lived in for the past 8 years. He gives something much more palpable than words...hope that is action towards good. Even if your work were objective, it is untrue.

  • Posted By: educator1332 @ 02/20/2008 6:38:12 PM

    What has Barack Obama accomplished? Wake up America

    • Posted By: Obamaisagoodtalker @ 02/20/2008 7:26:19 PM

      Obama is a good talker.

  • Posted By: sethwhite @ 02/20/2008 6:59:04 PM

    You miss the whole point. Barack Obama is inspiring millions of people to get involved who never did before. This alone can change the country from the bottom up. If this excitement and pride and hope for the future carries on past this election it will change America for the better. That is Obama's gift and it is tied directly into rhetoric. If Obama can manage to accomplish half of his progressive goals he will have accomplished far more in transforming our culture than any president since Reagan, and he will be worthy of standing in the company of Kennedy and Roosevelt. That is the change we all see, but I wouldn't expect a reporter embedded in Washington to understand any of this. I just know that I voted in a primary for the first time in my life. Attended a political rally for the first time in my life. Emailed friends about politics for the first time in my life. Even donated money to a politician for the first time in my life. Cared, for the first time. This is the kind of change that is going to happen, where ordinary people wake up and realize we are America.

    • Posted By: joeygirlny @ 02/20/2008 7:25:42 PM

      Let's hope you can continue to be inspired for the sake of our country regardless who is elected. Everybody sits back and complains but they don't DO anything about it. They're waiting for the next guy to do it and just sit back and complain some more and down our country. Let's pull together as a "People" of the United States of America- that why United is part of our country's name! And let's start making president's like Bush be called on the carpet for all the devious things he done! Hillary is the way to go!

  • Posted By: Snowbearer @ 02/20/2008 7:15:35 PM

    I'm glad to see someone finally writing about the lack of substance in the Obama rhetoric. Take a look at his voting record for the past three years if you want to know what he really stands for. Now that's substance. Voting records are public information and available at the click of a mouse.

    • Posted By: OH-IO for Obama @ 02/20/2008 7:24:56 PM

      Yet, you haven't even bothered to click your mouse and find out his voting record for yourself have you? So then, where did you get your opinion of his record? How about scrolling down, I've seen numerous bloggers listing his senate achievements in the last 3 yrs vs Clinton's in the last 6 yrs - educate yourself before you form an opinion, you'll sound more intelligent and credible

  • Posted By: texasindependent @ 02/20/2008 7:23:14 PM

    This argument just doesn't hold water. Number one, president's don't make law and number two, if you look closely you'll find Hilary's senate record has no more dearth than Obama's beside which why would I give anyone who has been a part of the mockery that is our government for the last 20 years a free pass for having experience. I don't and a lot of people don't.

    Obama's momentum doesn't have as much to do with people falling in love with him as it has to do with a lot of people realizing exactly what they get with Clinton or McCain in my opinion. People don't want the same old crap and realize where it has gotten us.

    I'm in Texas, so I'll be voting for Obama, but with the candidates the republicans trotted out this year and the same tired old platform, I wasn't going to throw in with the republicans even if it hadn't been decided. Both of these parties have a lot of work to do in my opinion and I think a lot of people are being far too easy on them by continuing the partisan bashing.

    It's absurd and never gets us anywhere.

  • Posted By: jtpmol @ 02/20/2008 7:22:26 PM

    I think this is a well written piece. He is promising the moon with ZERO thought of how to PAY for the promises. That is NOT the realism and truth telling he speaks of. What really concerns me is that I think he truly believes that he can do all that he says. How naive is this guy?

    The problem I have with this piece is the TIMING. I think that you are taking a shot at being the first to start to turn the tide of journalism on Obama now that he will most likely get the nomination. I find it disingenuous. Classic devil's advocate after the media spends a year building this guy into the Bono of Presidential Politics. I mean, did you JUST NOW figure Obama out?? You're like a republican admitting in 2006 that George Bush might not have it together. The damage is done, pal. Obama will most likely get the nomination, and fall flat on his smiling face once he becomes president. In large part due to the media's penchant for building a star and then taking him down for extended fun and ratings when it's TOO LATE to do anything about the real version of Obama. That coupled with an electorate so desperate for a new direction they will follow the Pied Piper that is Barack Obama. This will lead us to the second coming of Jimmy Carter. Only this time, things are far more desperate and in need of a strong president. It's a crying shame. A chance for real leadership and change, and it's going to get wasted on a motivational speaker. Ugh. Mark my words, Clinton will be the Al Gore everyone will wish had won by 2010. But hey, forget about me, listen to the music BO makes... let's all follow it... sounds so pretty..

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